Is The Trump Thing Serious?

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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby Maddy » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:56 pm

Donald Trump's Big Idea To Lower Gas Prices: Use Our 'Brain Power' To Pressure OPEC

WASHINGTON -- With gas prices rising above $3.50 a gallon in all but one state, Americans are getting hit hard at the pump. But billionaire and presidential aspirant Donald Trump thinks he has the solution: Simply tell OPEC to cut prices.

Trump blamed gas costs on the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), a conglomerate of developing nations responsible for 40 percent of global oil supplies. He said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday that lowering the price of gas is as easy as telling OPEC's members to do so -- something he believes President Obama is incapable of.

When host Candy Crowley argued that the United States can't control OPEC, Trump disagreed, saying our country only needs "brain power."
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby barracuda » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:00 pm

Sounds like the nomination is basically a lock with this endorsement in the can.

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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby justdrew » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:18 pm

if trump runs, obama will have to dump biden and pickup ted turner for vice president. :ohwh
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby barracuda » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:55 pm

Oh, I don't know - I think Biden is monumentally stupid enough to be a heartbeat away from becoming a meaningless figurehead. He's doing a fine job.
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby justdrew » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:58 pm

I don't know. I've paid virtually zero attention to Trump in a decade or more. I must say he's a bigger fool that I would have thought. maybe big enough.

but seriously, let's get Ted Turner to run against him. They can run for president of Corporate America...
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:28 pm

I didn't reply in this thread because I thought, 'no way is Trump serious,and this thread will die a quick death'. So its page 4, a week or so later, and this moron is actually gaining support!
WTF. I know we are stupid, but THIS f'n stupid? Its not even what he is saying, nonsense as it is. No, its more that what he is saying now, is directly opposite of the things he wrote in his book -or said as little ago as 6 months ago. He advocated Canadian healthare, protectionism, women's choice, etc. Now that he is 'running', he says all opposites and the baggers fall all over themselves. Gullable, hopeless, and moronic.

In the end, I do not think he will run and this is just publicity, but if he wanted to win, he just might be viable. This country is so fucked.
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby 82_28 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:05 am

In the end, I do not think he will run and this is just publicity, but if he wanted to win, he just might be viable. This country is so fucked.


I think how fucked this country is is commensurate with just how viable Trump may be. Look at how they roll with the reality shows these days (if you've watched any). You always think it's somebody else until the end who wins/loses/whatever. Reality shows seem to follow a capriciousness that cloaks itself in viewer emotion via the vehicles of suspense and personal vendettas and rules which always say someone has to leave, say their goodbyes or in Trump's case, are "fired". I find them totally impossible to predict. And along with the attendant media and reporting that follows such shows, the incessant talk on the radio, the tweets, the stories in the magazines and newspapers, I fear this will be very hard to overcome.

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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby 23 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:45 am

2012 Countdown wrote:WTF. I know we are stupid, but THIS f'n stupid? Its not even what he is saying, nonsense as it is. No, its more that what he is saying now, is directly opposite of the things he wrote in his book -or said as little ago as 6 months ago. He advocated Canadian healthare, protectionism, women's choice, etc. Now that he is 'running', he says all opposites and the baggers fall all over themselves. Gullable, hopeless, and moronic.


Our leaders reflect the people that they serve. Moronic voters will support and elect morons. Nothing new here.

Trump is nothing more than an opportunist.

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Donald Trump's Donations to Democrats, Club for Growth's Busy Day and More in Capital Eye Opener: February 17

REPUBLICAN DONALD TRUMP’S PAST AND CURRENT GENEROSITY TO DEMOCRATS: Billionaire real estate tycoon Donald Trump's recent speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference excited a number of Republicans, many of whom applauded his statement that Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) has "zero chance" of winning.

It also fueled speculation that the mogul would run for president. Cries of "you're hired!" to a Draft Trump 2012 website added to a growing sense of support among Republicans.

But that GOP support has not always been reciprocated by Trump.

According to a Center for Responsive Politics analysis of Trump's federal campaign contribution history, The Donald has been a prolific donor to both Democrats and Republicans during the past two decades.

In all, Trump has contributed to 96 candidates running for federal political office since the 1990 election cycle, the Center finds. Only 48 of the recipients -- exactly half -- were Republicans at the time they received their contribution, including ex-Gov. Charlie Crist (I-Fla.) and ex-Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.), who both of whom received their Trump contributions as Republicans.

Since the 1990 election cycle, the top 10 recipients of Trump's political contributions number six Democrats and four Republicans. Embattled Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.), who was censured last year by his U.S. House colleagues, has received the most Trump money, totaling $24,750. The most recent contribution from Trump to Rangel was a $10,000 gift during the 2006 election cycle.

In the most recent election cycle, Trump doled out $22,500 to political candidates, of which $16,200 benefited Democrats.

The top Republican recipient of Trump's money is Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) who has collected $13,600 from the billionaire magnate, the second most of any politician. Trump did not contribute to McCain during the 2010 election cycle, during which the former presidential candidate was facing re-election.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) is the recipient of $12,000 in Trump contributions, including $10,000 for his 2006 re-election campaign.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has received the fourth-largest amount of Trump's contributions, including $4,800 in the successful 2010 campaign against Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle. In total Trump has contributed $10,400 to Reid.

In 2010, Trump also contributed $4,000 to Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who easily won re-election. Schumer has received $8,900 from Trump since the 1996 election cycle. Trump has also been generous to New York's other Democratic U.S. senator, Kirsten Gillibrand, who's received $5,850 in Trump money.

After McCain, the Republican with the largest amount of Trump's contributions is former Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.), who left office in disgrace in 2006 when his online solicitation of male House pages became known. Trump contributed $9,500 to Foley between the 1996 and 2006 election cycles.

Trump has also supported other notable politicians, including:

• $7,000 to former Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), the "liberal lion of the Senate"
• $7,500 to former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (R)
• $5,500 to Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) including $2,000 during his 2004 presidential run
• $5,000 to former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.)
• $4,000 to former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.)
• $2,000 to former President George W. Bush (R)
• $1,000 to then-Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.)

Trump's donations to various political action committees and 527 groups also demonstrate his bipartisan checkbook.

During the most recent election cycle, Trump contributed $170,000 to the Republican Governor's Association, $50,000 to the ultra-conservative American Crossroads PAC, $30,400 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee and $10,000 to the Democratic Party of New York.

However, of the nearly $420,000 Trump has donated to committees, the largest recipient has been the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee with $116,000 -- or more than one fourth of his total contributions to all party and political action committees.
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby wordspeak2 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:47 pm

I don't think he's really going to do it, but who knows. My money's on Huckabee. He's eerily likable, and Repugs need something out of the box (besides Sarah Palin headlining).

Has he rolled back everything liberal-ish that he once said? I actually read a right-wing piece recently bashing Trump, lumping him with Soros and Warren Buffet, saying that Trump supported a progressive income tax and some form of collectivized health care, among other Commie ideas.
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon May 16, 2011 3:34 pm

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In the interest of closing the loop on this farcical story, it seems The Donald has 'bowed out' of his bid:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... ertainment

Donald Trump not running for President, but he's already won: 'Celebrity Apprentice' rides buzz wave

Donald Trump played us again.

Like a large mouth bass falling for a rubber worm with a hook in it, we — the people, the media, and anyone with even a cursory glance at the world, fell for Trump's lure that he might run for the Presidency.

We did so against our better judgement.

We suspended belief and everything we knew about what goes into being Commander in Chief, and rode along as long as Trump was driving the boat.

Deep down inside, if we were honest with ourselves, we realized it was highly unlikely he was going to run.

But that didn't stop us for watching every appearance, and, by extension, "The Celebrity Apprentice," his NBC reality show, thinking there might just be a possibility.

He might do it, we thought.

Then, Monday, Trump pulled the bait out of the water.

He's not running.

He said so in a statement and during NBC's fall schedule announcement.

Trump said after considerable deliberation and reflection, he decided not to pursue the office.

"I maintain the strong conviction that if I were to run, I would be able to win the primary and ultimately, the general election," Trump said.

That's the Trump we know and love.

Sure, there are folks out there saying this was all a publicity stunt, and just something to drive ratings for "The Celebrity Apprentice."

That's junk.

"The Celebrity Apprentice," according to NBC officials, was coming back whether Trump was on it or not.

Likewise, calling the White House campaign a publicity stunt suggests a greater level of planning than probably occurred.

More important, calling it a publicity stunt is an easy way to absolve the media for its role in this frenzy.

Trump caught the perfect news cycle at a time when the media — this outlet included — can't get snippets of information disseminated fast enough, whether checked for reality or not.

Trump, also, picked his message wisely.

He'd fired his salvos against the President's birth certificate, China, the future of the country and the economy at large.

The President blinked.

If Trump were a surfer, he'd compare this to riding a maverick wave.

In his statement, Trump said business was his greatest passion and "I am not ready to leave the private sector."

That's great news, because having Trump in the White House would have somehow muzzled this marvelous marketing machine known simply as The Donald.

It's bad news, of course, because if the past several weeks are any indication, we might have been heading into the most exciting campaign period, ever.

We won't, though.

CNN deputy political director Paul Steinhauser said Monday afternoon, that they'll no longer be covering Trump as part of the White House race.

"I'm sure," countered anchor Randi Kaye, "he'll figure out another way to get us all to cover him."

No doubt, somewhere in the glitzy halls of Trump Tower, Trump probably laughed at that, too.

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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby freemason9 » Tue May 17, 2011 10:29 pm

As it turns out, the answer is a resounding "no."

And we are, collectively, far stupider for discussing the prospect.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:20 pm

HO-LEE SHIT. This time, he's serious.

Move over Ted Cruz, the GOP primary debates have a new clown in town!

Trump jumps in: The Donald's latest White House run is officially on

By Jeremy Diamond, CNN

Updated 3:15 PM ET, Tue June 16, 2015

New York (CNN)Donald Trump finally took the plunge.

The real estate mogul and TV reality star launched his presidential campaign Tuesday, ending more than two decades of persistent flirtation with the idea of running for the Oval Office.

"So, ladies and gentlemen, I am officially running for president of the United States, and we are going to make our country great again," Trump told the crowd in a lengthy and meandering 45-minute speech that hit on his signature issues like currency manipulation from China and job creation, while also taking shots at the president and his competitors on the Republican side.

"Sadly the American dream is dead," Trump said at the end of his speech. "But if I get elected president I will bring it back bigger and better and stronger than ever before."

Just over four years after he came closer than ever to launching a campaign before bowing out, Trump made his announcement at the lavish Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in New York, laying out a vision to match his incoming campaign slogan, "Make America Great Again."

The 68-story tower venue Trump used Tuesday was more than just the backdrop to Trump's presidential announcement, instead becoming a physical embodiment of what Trump is bringing to the table and the challenges he'll face as he formally enters politics: it's both a sign of his overwhelming success in business and, as the site of the famous "Apprentice" boardroom, a symbol of the reality TV label he'll struggle to shake off.

The Tower, also home to "The Apprentice" television shows, crystallized the challenge Trump faces as he looks to win over voters.

Many Americans now view him primarily as a reality TV star after 14 seasons of his "Apprentice" series, and his numerous flirtations with a presidential run -- first in 1987, then 1999 and again in 2004, 2008 and most recently in 2011 -- have left voters eye-rolling as he prompted yet another round of will-he or won't-he speculation.

Trump has already billed himself as the "most successful person ever to run for the presidency, by far," pointing out even that he owns a "Gucci store that's worth more than Romney."

That Gucci store wasn't far as Trump made his announcement -- it's located in the lobby of the Trump Tower.

But Trump showed Tuesday that he won't shy away from the out-of-reach luxury and opulence that makes up his day-to-day lifestyle.

Instead, he flaunted his wealth and success in business as a centerpiece of his presidential platform, and he began that officially on Tuesday, trumpeting his whopping $8.7 billion net worth during his announcement speech. Trump's net worth was previously estimated at roughly $4 billion.

"That's the kind of thinking our country needs," Trump said after reading off his net worth, to the thousandth dollar.

He pointed out that his wealth and successful business career not only qualified him to be president -- "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created." -- but that it would allow him to rid himself of the special interests that he said control American politics.

That's because the billionaire said he would self-fund his presidential campaign, not only ridding himself of some outside influences, but also freeing up more time to campaign as candidates can often spend about half their time raising funds to keep their campaign coffers from depleting.

"I'm really rich," Trump said, adding that his confident attitude is what the country needs after having "losers" run the country.

Trump's press aide released a one-page summary of his assets and liabilities on Tuesday and Trump pledged to release the full financial disclosure, including income tax returns, required by the Federal Election Commission before the first debate.

Trump's wealth and results-driven success is business is part of what he hopes will be his appeal to voters as he looks to set himself apart from career politicians.

"I've watched the politicians, I've dealt with them all my life," Trump said. "They will never make America great again. They don't even have a chance."

It's his confidence that business associates say has made him the successful mogul he is today.

"He has the guts and the balls," said Roberto Bezjon, a Trump Organization board member and owner of a high-end New York hair salon located in a Trump building. "He's a straight shooter."

Supporters gathered for the announcement had the same impression. Many of them were either several-time supporters of Trump's past flirtations with elected office or small business owners in New York who said they were confident Trump would be a boon for the economy.

Supporters donning "Make America Great Again" T-shirts -- several of them boisterous and interjecting loudly in the middle of Trump's speech -- shuffled up golden elevators to watch from two stories up.

Outside, campaign volunteers flagged down pedestrians to hand them the campaign T-shirts and invite them inside for the announcement.

The spectators got a flavor for the type of candidate Trump plans to become -- one who shoots from the hip and doesn't care for a script -- and the ideas he'll promote.

Trump called for everything from new infrastructure ("We're becoming a third world country!") to erecting a massive fence on the border with Mexico -- which he said he would have Mexico pay for -- to the need for a thorough plan to defeat ISIS.

And the man himself was always at the center of Trump's ideas:

"No one would be tougher on ISIS than Trump," he said, referring to himself in the third person.

"We need a truly great leader," he said earlier, before pointing several times to his skills as a negotiator.

But it's not clear whether Americans are ready yet to give Trump a chance to become that leader.

In recent polls, more than half of Republicans said they had a negative view of him -- a tough spot to start a campaign.

He and his aides remain confident, though, that voters will take Trump seriously after he has now made his intentions clear and announces he's running.

"We can change that dynamic in 15 seconds by Mr. Trump sending out a press release saying he's running for president," Trump's top political adviser Corey Lewandowski said before the speech. "Mr. Trump's single biggest detriment is that people don't think he's going to run."

But over the past several months, Trump has ramped up his political activity, making key staff hires in the early states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina -- including the political strategist who drove former Sen. Rick Santorum to a surprise victory in the Iowa caucus in 2012.

And even as he becomes the 12th candidate to throw his hat into a ring that will become even more crowded before the first televised debate in August, Trump could find himself grinning on Fox News along with the rest of the top 10 candidates who made the cut.

Fox is limiting participation in the first debate to the top 10 GOP contenders based on national polling, and Trump is just on the edge based on the latest polls.

He tied for 10th place with 3% in the latest CNN/ORC poll earlier this month and earned 4% in both the most recent Fox News and Washington Post/ABC News polls -- coming in 10th and tied for ninth, respectively.

That puts Trump right in line with would-be-rivals like Santorum, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and former New York Gov. George Pataki -- and above hopefuls like Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal.

Trump will look to escape that grouping as he challenges conventional political notions of nominating a presidential candidate who's held elected office, instead calling for an end to the politics he says are heavy on talk and light on action.

Trump is no stranger to either, though.

He famously fanned the flames of the "birther" movement and today takes credit for President Barack Obama's decision to release his birth certificate -- which Trump said this year at CPAC hasn't completely quelled his concerns.

And he won't mince words when it comes to his GOP foes, either. And he may take the opportunity to draw a contrast with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who formally announced his candidacy just a day before Trump's announcement.

Trump said earlier this year in Iowa: "The last thing we need is another Bush."
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby Searcher08 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:30 pm

OK I'll start...

His election rallies will be called "wig-outs"
He will come within a hairpiece of winning
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:34 pm

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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:51 pm

Vote for Trump, a Republican Rump!
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