OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

[Belligerent Savant]

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Well, this explains why actual images have not been provided yet: "The White House" is concerned about how the Average American's fragile sensibilities may react to such graphic imagery.
They're concerned about our mental health, you see.

"The White House would like to release the photos to placate the skeptics who doubt his death, but worry the images are too gruesome, as bin Laden has a massive head wound above his left eye, and his brains and blood are visible."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blo ... _blog.html

And, of course, the un-official echo chamber to the status quo, doing their part:



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[8bitagent]

Dude, I get it McC. I'm not a fucking retard.

However, within the last hour of surveying the "news" on the teevee I have witnessed no less than three different people trip up and say "Obama" when they meant "Osama". Interviewers and interviewees alike. Take your cool to the cool thread where I'm not allowed. I'm just tossing random ass motherfucking shit out as place saving "nodes" of what may or may not come. Take it or fucking leave it. It is what it is.

Again, if everything has been scripted...as clearly the WW1-2011 period has definitely been...then why is it taboo or crazy to think
there is no coincidence in the Obama/Osama thing? Hell many of us in 2008 said on here we're going to see the "Only Obama can get Osama" meme. Osama is the devil, Obama is the savior.
And he wasnt Osama til 9/11, he was Usama before that. And we still dont know the full story of Obama's pre 1990 days

[8bitagent]

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In fact, and this was truly chilling: the Mets won by scoring 9 runs in the top of the 11th inning, including 3 home-runs and a ground-rule double to represent the three crash-bombings and the failed flight. It lasted exactly 29 minutes and 11 seconds, which would be the "2nd 911." There were still no outs when the Phillies lined up to salute and forfeit the game, after which all sang the national anthem and "New York, New York," which lasted exactly 5 minutes and 1 second, yesterday's date. They showed a shot of the most expensive private box in the house, and in attendance were David Rockefeller and Zbig Brzezinski!

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Exactly. sigh.

But whatever. Somehow in this instance it seems appropriate.

Actually, no.

In this instance:
- Found after living for 5 years in a posh villa near Pakistani military installations
- No Pakistani involvement - really!
- Instant DNA analysis (matched against what?)
- Burial at sea (has had me laughing all day)
- The OBL "video" history as well as reported career
- The past history of stage-managed post-reality propaganda events a la Lynch, spider hole, etc.

These should be enough for the healthy skeptic to start. And then you attend to details and claims as they come out. (Not via random people's FB pages, however.)

The random-number games and mystic date stuff is just setting up for this case's new red herrings a la Harley Guy and no-planes.

You wonder about the timing? The combination with the White House Correspondants' Dinner roll-out of Obama Born-in-the=USA is not enough?

Bruce, the Bhutto video is so obviously a misstatement, of no more evidentiary significance than when someone mixes up Osama and Obama in speech (which I've already done twice today, very much to my chagrine).

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Have to disagree, dates are important. But the no plane/missile/harley guy/fake cell phone/hijackers alive stuff is a red herring.

I personally think the 2001 "confession" video of OBL is him as part of a Saudi sting op in September, with the rubbish "found in a jalalabad safehouse in november" story as the ruse.

I agree about the red herrings with OBL...
There is no "Fat" OBL. Thats definitely him in the tape. And Ive long said the elites were protecting bin Laden for a special time, which I guess would be now

But Jack, whats up with the torrent of OBL wiki stuff the other day...nuke hellstorms, bin laden shocked the towers fell?

RT @wikileaks: Osama bin Laden killing: Information about courier and location appeared in Gitmo Files release http://is.gd/LtSvHC

Further indication that UBL's whereabouts have not been secret for some time.

Would be funny if a screenshot of that big ISI compound neighborhood from google earths was shown on Above Top Secret or something before the raid yesterday. Anything that embarrasses the government I approve of.

[8bitagent]

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Well, this explains why actual images have not been provided yet: "The White House" is concerned about how the Average American's fragile sensibilities may react to such graphic imagery.
They're concerned about our mental health, you see.

"The White House would like to release the photos to placate the skeptics who doubt his death, but worry the images are too gruesome, as bin Laden has a massive head wound above his left eye, and his brains and blood are visible."

LOL...we've already seen countless images and videos of men women and children Bush and Obama have mutilated and slaughtered...whats another image?

It pisses me off people arent asking "What about all the civilians Bush and Obama have killed?" Ive posted that several times on forums and I just get flamed by both leftards and right wingers

[Nordic]

My educated guess as to what happened:

OBL has been holed up in that place for a while. Living the good life, with his own nurses, dialysis machines, whatever. All provided by the ISI and the Pakistani military allies.

He's been on his way out for a few weeks, maybe months. Dying. Thus all the drama with that CIA guy who was caught killing people on the street, the way he got away, the whole "conflict" between Pakistan and the CIA.

They've been figuring out how to deal with this and how to use it for their own best interests.

My guess is that the Pakistanis have said "don't make it look like we were hiding him, because we don't want to take the heat for that" and the Americans have been working with them to work something out.

So now OBL died, they gave him his quiet little Muslim funeral, the trigger was pulled on the "operation" to go "kill" him, and it's all been worked out ahead of time as to how much heat the Pakistanis will take for this. They'll probably play clueless "we had no idea he was there!" and that sort of thing.

And yes, the whole "we got this info from one of those tortured detainees we have in our secret prison system" is part of the plot, as is "yes we spent trillions of dollars on this over the years to build this military constitution-crushing system, but look ITS WORTH IT".

No pictures, because they didn't shoot him. He died quietly under medical supervision.

This is pure conjecture.

[8bitagent]

My educated guess as to what happened:

OBL has been holed up in that place for a while. Living the good life, with his own nurses, dialysis machines, whatever. All provided by the ISI and the Pakistani military allies.

He's been on his way out for a few weeks, maybe months. Dying. Thus all the drama with that CIA guy who was caught killing people on the street, the way he got away, the whole "conflict" between Pakistan and the CIA.

They've been figuring out how to deal with this and how to use it for their own best interests.

My guess is that the Pakistanis have said "don't make it look like we were hiding him, because we don't want to take the heat for that" and the Americans have been working with them to work something out.

So now OBL died, they gave him his quiet little Muslim funeral, the trigger was pulled on the "operation" to go "kill" him, and it's all been worked out ahead of time as to how much heat the Pakistanis will take for this. They'll probably play clueless "we had no idea he was there!" and that sort of thing.

And yes, the whole "we got this info from one of those tortured detainees we have in our secret prison system" is part of the plot, as is "yes we spent trillions of dollars on this over the years to build this military constitution-crushing system, but look ITS WORTH IT".

No pictures, because they didn't shoot him. He died quietly under medical supervision.

This is pure conjecture.

That ain't conjecture Nordic, that is a spot on reading and I'd have to agree 100% . The Raymond Davis thing is definitely a big clue. When I joked OBL was being safe housed in an ISI mansion instead of a cave years back, it was because all the videos of Zawahiri looked like the book study of a rich house. If bin Laden was in a cave, or shanty village no way he coulda survived.

Im curious what evidence or news comes out about what was found inside

[8bitagent]

Another ominous warning or simple faux paus?

Many networks and twitter announce "Obama has been shot"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... death.html

Another reason for the Obama/Osama conflating narrative

[JackRiddler]

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I don't think that's a bad guess at all.

All guesses are pretty much scrap, though. You can bury them at sea.

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[8bitagent]

Jack, Nordic:



http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2011/05/ ... -home-now/


Im sure we can guess where the narrative will go from here...
(tho I remember some of the hijackers were living next to NSA headquarters and near military bases)

Id be laughing my ASS OFF if that google snap had been shown on conspiracy forums by plucky researchers before yesterday.

Wikileaks already exposed the courier they used some time ago, tho noone noticed. I wish so bad this woulda been ruined by anonymous, wikileaks, etc

[charlie meadows]

Top 6 Yahoo headlines...

Fears of Qaeda vengeance after U.S. kills Osama (Reuters)
Pakistan vital to defeating al Qaeda: White House (Reuters)
Bin Laden wife killed in raid: White House (Reuters)
Inconceivable Osama had no support in Pakistan: White House (Reuters)
Israel says bin Laden killing triumph for democracies (Reuters)
Afghanistan: Where Even the Taliban Don't Care About Bin Laden (Time.com)

[barracuda]

Via Boing Boing:

From the White House photo description on Flickr: "President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House, May 1, 2011. Please note: a classified document seen in this photograph has been obscured."

And via MinM in the Images thread:

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[Bruce Dazzling]

This business of the burial at sea smells like deliberately contrived "truther bait" to me.

It's like they knew exactly how ridiculous it was going to sound to anyone using any common sense, and they want those people walking around claiming that this is another conspiracy so that they can be lumped in with all of those birther loonies who think we didn't go to the moon, etc, blah, blah, blah.

It's just another method of marginalizing those who haven't gotten with the Empire's program yet.

[Forgetting2]

My guess is that the Pakistanis have said "don't make it look like we were hiding him, because we don't want to take the heat for that" and the Americans have been working with them to work something out.

So now OBL died, they gave him his quiet little Muslim funeral, the trigger was pulled on the "operation" to go "kill" him, and it's all been worked out ahead of time as to how much heat the Pakistanis will take for this. They'll probably play clueless "we had no idea he was there!" and that sort of thing.

Does seem like a good guess with the exception that, if they really wanted not to implicate the Pakistani military, they might have moved the body away from a military academy, if I got that right.

The main thing I want to know is what the hell is next. 2 Royal Weddings, if you count the Kardasians, and one Royal funeral.

Osama is dead! Long live Osama! Or Obama... Or something...

[justdrew]

[Nordic]

This business of the burial at sea smells like deliberately contrived "truther bait" to me.

It's like they knew exactly how ridiculous it was going to sound to anyone using any common sense, and they want those people walking around claiming that this is another conspiracy so that they can be lumped in with all of those birther loonies who think we didn't go to the moon, etc, blah, blah, blah.

It's just another method of marginalizing those who haven't gotten with the Empire's program yet.

Well I'm quite sure that's the reason the "birther" thing came to a head when it did.

Even the jokes making the rounds now: "I want to see his long form death certificate!" Ha Ha. That one's all over FB.