OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

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Postby NeonLX » Tue May 03, 2011 7:46 pm

Thanks Jack, that was one helluva read. I'm in an especially despondent mood today so I needed that lift...badly. Thanks to everyone else too. Like many others have said, this is where I come to try to hang on to what little sanity I've got left.

My first thought when I heard that Ossie's body was dumped in the sea was: "how far did they have to fly to do that?". I mean, did they dump the stiff in the Caspian, or the Arabian Sea? Either way, it's a LONG haul to unload a corpse.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Tue May 03, 2011 7:52 pm

JackRiddler wrote:.

justdrew, let's entertain that thought for a little bit, that this can be the beginning of a scripted drawdown from the wars. Just to have all our bases covered.

There was this:

What in the World? The military's secret plan...to shrink
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com ... to-shrink/

Which together with the stories of the last week led me to write this for kicks over at depleted, um democratic thingie...




http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... id=1011589

Multidimensional chess players, here's your man's chance. What will come of it?

Interesting past week:

Obama -- born! (In 1961!) A muscular, lightly ironic video at the White House press dinner shows NFL hits and baseball victory celebrations, intercut with a dancing birth certificate set to the tune of a song called, "I AM A REAL AMERICAN."

Trump -- naked! Republican dwarf candidates -- laughing stocks!

Osama -- dead! Buried at sea, case closed. Americans chanting USA! USA! and primed for closure on the era of 9/11.

Reelection 2012 -- a wrap, if it were today. Obama administration, reset and popular, "political capital" restored.

The Bush man at the Pentagon, Gates -- retired. Obama's choice, Panetta, is in. Petraeus -- neutralized, withdrawn from his Afghanistan flag-waving photo-ops and sent into the bowels of the CIA, an agency with a proven history of stimying and dispensing with directors considered hostile to it.

Afghan government -- practically inviting a drawdown, the July 2011 date for beginning a withdrawal almost here. Pakistan urging Karzai to get the Americans out. Supposed mission in Pakistan can be declared a victory right now.

Iraq -- the Status of Forces Agreement negotiated between Iraq and the Bush regime calls for all US troops out by December 31st.

A report by top ranking members of the Navy and Marine Corps officers serving Adm. Mullen at the Joint Chiefs of Staff says the US has been wrong to pursue military solutions instead of political ones, spent its treasure on war when it should have invested in education. The Joint Chiefs of Staff are ready to entertain this! [???]
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com ... to-shrink/

The next budget -- not just a crisis but an open book. Ryan proposal -- now anathema to most. Initiative can be seized by the liberals, if the executive is willing to provide leadership.

Arab Spring -- an opportunity to redefine all relations there. The US can stop playing Big Cheese and let an Egypt on the Turkish model show the way to new possibilities.

So here's the big chance. No more excuses. The chess pieces are positioned for action. Iraq can be over, this year. Afghanistan and Pakistan can be declared almost over, this year. A shift in spending from the wars and the "defense" budget toward human needs and investment at home can begin, this year. Even Yemen can be vacated, this year. (Dare we even dream that pressure can be applied for a real peace in Palestine?)

Obama has the position and the pieces to make these moves, this year. The neocon rationalizations of why the terror wars must continue forever ring hollow, can be counteracted. Obama can declare a bunch of victories and GET OUT OF THE MESSES.

Is your man going to live up to that? Does he really want to?

You don't have to convince me.

It's much more important that if YOU want that, if you really want it, you show that you do. Calls and letters are nice, but there will be rallies and strikes and public pressure for it... if YOU want it.

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Thanks for the laughs, Jack. Not your article, of course, which is spot on, but the replies. I almost wish I hadn't gotten myself banned a few years ago.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby Searcher08 » Tue May 03, 2011 8:02 pm

Great posts JR!

I had to look at the comments. \<]
There was a weeeeee bit of an I.Q. step change when the comments started.
Kinda freefall.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby Nordic » Tue May 03, 2011 8:25 pm

gnosticheresy_2 wrote:
justdrew wrote:just an FYI - I'm done with this subject. it's irrelevant. the details, the stories, the contradictions, the lies, all utterly meaningless.


MOST people are completely controlled by the media, nothing we can do will change that, or give us any degree of control over said media. no independent media will ever be allowed to truly compete. It's over, there's no point in pretending there's still a fight here. anyone inconvenient will simply be killed. it's pointless. The population is lead around by the nose via their neurotypes and all of society is ever geared to turn babies into little growing authoritarians. I'm walking away from this. hope for humanity is dead. not OBL.


BOOORRING. YOU ARE SO BOOOORRRRING. BEING HOPELESS IS BOOOORRRRING. HAVING HOPE IS BOOOOORRRRRING

MOST people are completely controlled by the media


Yeah but that's why they're so much fun to wind up :yay

So what you going to do? You're going to die anyway and so are all your loved ones, maybe in front of you in horrible ways. OR MAYBE NOT. So what are you worried about? Fight, fuck, love, laugh, be happy, be sad, try and change things for the better or run away and live in a shack. Whatever. LIVE YOUR LIFE cos we're all doomed. DOOMED I TELL YE!!



Weird, just yesterday I was called BORING by an Obamabot, a guy who is kind of a blow hard anyway (it's part of his job, honestly, he has to have that personality for his job) and he was so praising everything Obama and swallowing every tiny detail of this nonsense. He kept calling me "boring" for questioning some of the details.

Weird. He's a Huff Post guy, always posting stuff from them. Ugh. I'd rather deal with a conservative sometimes, at least most of them have a healthy distrust of the government right now. :)
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Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue May 03, 2011 8:32 pm

So as 8bit and Jack posted a few pages back, they found all these hard drives and data...a 'treasure trove'.
Yet they also claim they located him (OBL) for the conspicuous LACK of internet/technological activity. The dog that didn't bark, so to speak.
Just pointing this out.
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Postby Crow » Tue May 03, 2011 8:33 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:Wait a minute. I'm positive I heard on the Al Jazeera English that the SEALS found bin Laden asleep upstairs in bed.


That's what the photos published so far suggest. Big puddles of blood next to the bed, as if someone had been hiding underneath or behind it.
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Postby jingofever » Tue May 03, 2011 8:33 pm

Geographers Had Predicted Osama's Possible Whereabouts. Update on the guy this thread is sort of about.

The most likely candidate is in Parachinar, 12 miles inside Pakistan, which housed many mujahideen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby 8bitagent » Tue May 03, 2011 8:38 pm

I agree with JackRiddler, that it is all kind of comical.

I mean again...OSAMA/OBAMA. <--- this right here is way too much of a coincidence for me. Obama and Osama, like Bush and Blair are nothing but groomed from birth puppets for this black lodge party.

justdrew wrote:
it's still possible this is all leading on to a scripted end with the war-on-terror nonsense.


Some of the public and politicians may wonder that...but this is ALL about greatly dramatically escalating war, putting in big brother, etc.

But now the meme is emerging "Is Pakistan our friend? Was Pakistan hiding bin Laden? Did Pakistan carry out Mumbai?"

This is stuff truthers were saying in 2004, NOW they want to run with this for the new end game
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Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue May 03, 2011 8:44 pm

HOT OFF THE PRESS (relayed to me through the TV machine):

Obama has invited GWB to 'Ground Zero' for a ceremony on Thursday, and Bush has declined.
So there's going to be a ceremony? WTF is Obama going to do at ground zero?
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Postby ninakat » Tue May 03, 2011 8:51 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:Come on people, you gotta see some black comedy in all this. The radio woke me up yesterday with "shot in the head, burial at sea." Burial at sea! I couldn't stop laughing. Am I bad person?


Yes, Jack, you are a very bad person indeed. For shame. Why, even those rough, tough, salty Marines were touched by the passing of Osama, whose body was a temple, though by then a temple with only one eye, so to speak.

Imagine the scene, or rather, let the Newspaper of Record imagine it for you:

"So the Qaeda leader’s body was washed and placed in a white sheet in keeping with tradition. On the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson, it was placed in a weighted bag as an officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker, according to the senior Pentagon official.

The body then was placed on a prepared flat board and eased into the sea."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/world ... gewanted=4


:eeyaa "Eased".:eeyaa The Newspaper of Record actually said "eased".

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Postby 82_28 » Tue May 03, 2011 8:54 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:So as 8bit posted a few pages back, they found all these hard drives and data...a 'treasure trove'.
Yet they also claim they located him (OBL) for the conspicuous LACK of internet/technological activity. The dog that didn't bark, so to speak.
Just pointing this out.


What's fucked is this is ONE MAN, ONE MAN, a Goldstein. They had no fucking clue as to what was on this one helluva "treasure trove" of a HD, but can "satisfactorily", "accurately" hone in on the personal data, conversations, correspondence, habits etc of BILLIONS of people via their vast conservative and small governmental services? But ONE MAN, ONE MAN and his invaluable hard drive he's toted around lo these years, simply eludes them as they set up and bolster their empirical corporatist reign here, abroad, abroad and here. I would think the contents of ossie's data would not matter much other than the fact that if he's as dope as they've been telling us he is/was, that ain't his motherfucking HD. We're dealing with a motherfucking mastermind here!

How the fuck is anybody anywhere falling for any of this?
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Postby 8bitagent » Tue May 03, 2011 8:55 pm

I'm glad I don't have kids right now...how would I explain as a parent about all the celebration going on over death? This is death worship overload right now.
And soon they'll be showing the real gruesome photos and videos of "bin Laden" to dispel us "conspiracy nuts".

I was wrong about the Royal Wedding/Nasa shuttle thing...THIS, this bin Laden death working ritual was the big mass transformative global conscious egregoric event the PTB
had planned.


Nordic wrote:

Weird. He's a Huff Post guy, always posting stuff from them. Ugh. I'd rather deal with a conservative sometimes, at least most of them have a healthy distrust of the government right now. :)


Sadly, Alex Jones seems to be the only one on the airwaves saying whats up. While so much of even the tea party/birther/racist republicans are now all "Obama has stepped up to the plate finally!" and neocon founder Bill Kristol is praising him..it seems the right wing are the only ones even asking anything

The MOST you get out of lefties these days is "well Osama was an evil man, he killed 3000, but we shouldnt celebrate bin Ladens death...but then again, go Obama!"
The rest are in total mindless Bush era insanity. The front page of all the news papers near me read in huge letters "Bin Laden Died A Coward". This is all meant to inflame the Muslim world; the atrociously slapdash "Islamic rite" burial which made no sense. Obama's SICKENING 9 minute speech which sounded right out of the neocon playbook...I can honestly say Obama's speeches make me more sick to my stomach than Bush's.

Obama kills Ghadafy's grand kids, woo hoo! More dead Ay-rabs, lets celebrate! THE SAME LIBERALS who were told to shut up for standing against Bush, war and torture are now telling everyone else to shut up, worship obama, wave them flags and support the gub'ment. The meme is that right wing Christian conservatives are retarded, but look how mindless the precious "rebel" left is.
AND THE ONLY reason a few liberals are wanting out of Afghanistan, has nothing to do with the immorality or lies or endless death but because of simply the time and money spent.

I lost a few "friends" on facebook for my comments about the bin Laden staged event and the hypocrisy of all of America's mass murder, but I don't care. I'm thinking of joining in with the few (true) liberal activists at the big huge downtown hipster yuppy fair next weekend with big "Wake Up Liberals! Obama is a Warmonger", "Free Bradley Manning" and "How Many People Has Obama Killed" wearing my 9/11 Inside Job shirt. The same scorn we give to the gay hating racist right needs to be given to the money loving materialist yuppy left I say.
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Postby sunny » Tue May 03, 2011 8:56 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:HOT OFF THE PRESS (relayed to me through the TV machine):

Obama has invited GWB to 'Ground Zero' for a ceremony on Thursday, and Bush has declined.
So there's going to be a ceremony? WTF is Obama going to do at ground zero?


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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby 8bitagent » Tue May 03, 2011 9:01 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:HOT OFF THE PRESS (relayed to me through the TV machine):

Obama has invited GWB to 'Ground Zero' for a ceremony on Thursday, and Bush has declined.
So there's going to be a ceremony? WTF is Obama going to do at ground zero?



Good God. EVEN if i was a braindead American who accepted the official story and loved the wars, loved Bush and Obama and loved him killing Osama bin Laden...
I'd be puzzled as to why he would do a memorial at Ground Zero NOT ON september 11th 2001.

Probably part of more of their occult death ritual ceremonies. When does that Giffords NASA shuttle launch?

"Ground Zero" was the ultimate sacrificial death altar that hasn't been seen since ancient times, and now we have our lightbringer savior going
to celebrate in his death victory. Of course, I'm neither Christian nor a right winger...so I can't accuse him of being the Antichrist...

2012 Countdown wrote:So as 8bit and Jack posted a few pages back, they found all these hard drives and data...a 'treasure trove'.
Yet they also claim they located him (OBL) for the conspicuous LACK of internet/technological activity. The dog that didn't bark, so to speak.
Just pointing this out.



I remember in 2004 and read through the last time they sifted through bin Laden and al Qaeda's computer files:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... rive/3428/

I've been joining in on comments and forum posts by raw raw people loving this bin laden death,
saying "Cool. Now can we go after those who finance and support bin Laden?" Oh but Im a conspiracy theorist in their eyes for daring to allege
bin Laden has been a puppet all this time of the elite.
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Postby eyeno » Tue May 03, 2011 9:05 pm

barbobailey wrote:

"bardobailey"special puppets
addicted to hope
strung by despair
throwing chickens
into the air


Thanx bardobailey. I needed that. :thumbsup


justdrew wrote:
it's still possible this is all leading on to a scripted end with the war-on-terror nonsense.


I hear ya justdrew. We are fracked :choke: like the christmas goose, and thanx for the one liner you threw in. :clown


Thanx for the words jack. I laughed too. Like, laughed out loud...right before I immediately began to slip back into the node of my surreal split existence created by watching things such as the fbook melt downs over a mention that OBL story might not be true.

Now I am just wondering if outrage over OBL will be enough to justify sacking Packistan or if somebody is going to have to 'get it' to justify it.

Seeing thoughts even stranger than my own slip from the minds of other back stage pass maniacs lets me know that I have not slipped over the edge yet...
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