IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby Peachtree Pam » Mon May 16, 2011 11:18 am

IMF CHIEF HAS IRONCLAD ALIBI, His Lawyers Say

http://www.businessinsider.com/dsk-alibi-2011-5


IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, better known as DSK, was having lunch with his daughter at the time when the sexual assault he is alleged to have committed supposedly took place, his lawyers say, according to French radio RMC.

According to this item, DSK checked out of the hotel at noon, hours before the events allegedly took place. He was scheduled to have lunch with his daughter, a graduate student at Columbia University in New York, that day.

If true, it should be easy enough to check out: both the hotel check-out and the lunch (via credit card) would have left a computer trail. Not to mention the fact that there would have been several witnesses at the restaurant.

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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby Peachtree Pam » Mon May 16, 2011 11:24 am

LEAKED? French Blog Publishes Detailed Cables Concerning Strauss-Kahn Allegations

http://www.businessinsider.com/french-d ... ahn-2011-5


French blog Atlantico claims it has obtained leaked cables sent from the French consulate in NYC regarding the allegations against Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

According to Atlantico, the French Consulate is being kept abreast of the developments by high-ranking staff in the NYPD, and sends regular reports to Paris, some of which were supposedly obtained by Atlantico.

We can't verify that the details are real.

Here are the most important bits:

* From the NYPD police report: the victim called the police at 3:29pm (contradicting reports that DSK checked out of the hotel at noon). According to the report, DSK "came out of the bathroom nude, held the woman down on the bed and inserted his penis in her mouth." The report incorrectly states that DSK is the "president" (managing director) of the IMF and was going to run for "prime minister" (president) of France which, given our experience of police reports, makes it sound likely that it's a genuine police report.

* "Scratches have been found on the chest" of DSK.

* "DNA traces (most likely semen) have been found", the cable quotes a NYPD high level source saying.

* The NYPD believes the alleged victim to be "highly trustworthy."

This mostly fleshes out what we already know, and the added details don't help DSK.

That being said, this is a blog quoting an alleged diplomatic cable quoting an unnamed NYPD source, so this might not be accurate. Last night, also citing French Consulate sources, Atlantico said DSK would resign within hours from the IMF, and that hasn't happened (yet).

Meanwhile, DSK's legal team are telling reporters that he has an ironclad alibi, having checked out of the hotel before the alleged incident took place and having lunch with his daughter while it was taking place.

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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby JackRiddler » Mon May 16, 2011 11:45 am

Peachtree Pam quoting Business Insider wrote:If true, it should be easy enough to check out: both the hotel check-out and the lunch (via credit card) would have left a computer trail. Not to mention the fact that there would have been several witnesses at the restaurant.


(Whispers) Oh, my God, honey, shush: Don't look, but at the table behind you, it's Jessica Alba Daniel Radcliffe George Clooney Kanye West Shakira IMF managing director and prospective French presidential candidate Dominique Strauss-Kahn! Don't look!

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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby crikkett » Mon May 16, 2011 12:16 pm

JackRiddler wrote:
Peachtree Pam quoting Business Insider wrote:If true, it should be easy enough to check out: both the hotel check-out and the lunch (via credit card) would have left a computer trail. Not to mention the fact that there would have been several witnesses at the restaurant.


(Whispers) Oh, my God, honey, shush: Don't look, but at the table behind you, it's Jessica Alba Daniel Radcliffe George Clooney Kanye West Shakira IMF managing director and prospective French presidential candidate Dominique Strauss-Kahn! Don't look!

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corroborating evidence can perhaps be gotten from
surveillance cameras.
cellphone gps. oh, wait. that was in the hotel.
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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby Peachtree Pam » Mon May 16, 2011 12:16 pm

Quote JR:
(Whispers) Oh, my God, honey, shush: Don't look, but at the table behind you, it's Jessica Alba Daniel Radcliffe George Clooney Kanye West Shakira IMF managing director and prospective French presidential candidate Dominique Strauss-Kahn! Don't look!


:rofl:


I guess the scratches are there because his daughter brought her cat along.
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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby Peachtree Pam » Mon May 16, 2011 12:41 pm

Judge rules out bail - risk of flight.

Grand jury meeting 20 May.

Live on French 24:

http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/b2743.htm
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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby JackRiddler » Mon May 16, 2011 1:10 pm

crikkett wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:
Peachtree Pam quoting Business Insider wrote:If true, it should be easy enough to check out: both the hotel check-out and the lunch (via credit card) would have left a computer trail. Not to mention the fact that there would have been several witnesses at the restaurant.


(Whispers) Oh, my God, honey, shush: Don't look, but at the table behind you, it's Jessica Alba Daniel Radcliffe George Clooney Kanye West Shakira IMF managing director and prospective French presidential candidate Dominique Strauss-Kahn! Don't look!

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corroborating evidence can perhaps be gotten from
surveillance cameras.
cellphone gps. oh, wait. that was in the hotel.


Drat. If only he'd been personally chipped! Luddite reluctance claims its latest martyr.

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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby cptmarginal » Mon May 16, 2011 1:50 pm

In my opinion, something much more complex was going on here. I think that even if it did involve DSK himself personally deciding to rape this woman, it happened for reasons which you have completely failed to describe...


Just wanted to clarify that while my use here of the words "even if" made it seem like I strongly suspect a set-up, that is not actually the case. I think that he very likely did rape her (I'll wait for a lot more details before making any real guess on that). The complexity comes in when I start considering any of the details regarding his life and political career, to try getting some insight into his character and why he seems to think he can consistently get away with brutal rape.

I mean, shit, even just being a high-level official in the IMF makes me very curious about what private affiliations and proclivities a person has. Let alone being a cheerleader for global government and architect of France's entry into the European Union. He's obviously likely to be a member of the Grand Orient of France, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that he's also been affiliated with some right-wing underground groups. Probably even the ones, as has been common in France, who style themselves as some kind of pseudo-Masonic or neo-chivalric orders.
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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby semper occultus » Mon May 16, 2011 2:04 pm

Dominique Strauss-Kahn: Was it a stitch-up?

Conspiracy theories that Dominique Strauss-Kahn was the victim of a politically-motivated set-up gained ground after it emerged that the first person to break the news of his arrest was an activist in Nicolas Sarkozy’s UMP party.

www.telegraph.co.uk
By Our Foreign Staff 11:57AM BST 16 May 2011

Jonathan Pinet, a political science student, tweeted the news of Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s arrest before it had even happened, according to Le Post, a French newspaper.
Meanwhile the first person to re-tweet Mr Pinet was Arnaud Dassier, a spin doctor who had been previously involved in publicising the details of Mr Strauss-Kahn’s luxurious lifestyle.
The first website to break the news, meanwhile, was the French right-wing news blog, 24heuresactu.

Some have suggested Mr Strauss-Kahn could also have been stitched up by his rivals inside the International Monetary Fund, as well as by rivals within the French political establishment.

Mr Pinet immediately denied that he was part of a right-wing plot against Mr Strauss-Kahn, merely saying that he was told the news by a friend of his working at the Sofitel hotel.
Nevertheless, Mr Strauss-Kahn’s supporters seized on the news. “I am convinced it is an international conspiracy," said Michelle Sabban, a senior councillor for the greater Paris region and a Strauss-Kahn loyalist.

"It's the IMF they wanted to decapitate, not so much the Socialist primary candidate," she said. "It's not like him. Everyone knows that his weakness is seduction, women. That's how they got him."
And some of Mr Strauss-Kahn’s rivals also found it hard to believe the news.

"We cannot rule out the thought of a trap," Henri de Raincourt, minister for overseas co-operation in President Nicolas Sarkozy's government, said in a broadcast interview.

"I refuse to have a personal opinion and say, 'Yes it was a trap,' or 'No, it wasn't a trap.' I don't know," he said.

"I note that this has happened just after the affair of the car and the suit in a short space of time," he added, referring to sniping at the socialist presidential hopeful for using a Porsche and wearing tailor-made clothes.
"I am not ruling anything out," Raincourt added. "If this turns out to have been a trap, let me tell you that it would not be to the credit of those who set it."

Francois Hollande, the former Socialist party chief, said: "To commit an act of such seriousness, this does not resemble the man I know."
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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby justdrew » Mon May 16, 2011 2:25 pm

why would the defense makes claims about the alibi, such obviously verifiable details, if they weren't true?
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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby semper occultus » Mon May 16, 2011 2:37 pm

cptmarginal wrote:....and why he seems to think he can consistently get away with brutal rape.

this is key...the scum-bag must be in such massive shock realising his magic umbrella's been whipped away just as the tanker full of brown lumpy slurry was emptied over his immaculately silvery & leonine head

I am reminded of a story I posted a while back concerning
....multi-millionaire French banker Edouard Stern, a close friend of Nicolas Sarkozy and one of Europe's richest men. Stern was shot dead by another lover during a sadomasochistic sex session in 2005.

Stern was estranged from his wife, Beatrice David-Weill, with whom he had three children. He was also, it later transpired, enjoying numerous other illicit liaisons, many of them at sadomasochistic orgies.

Even in a city renowned for its hedonism, sources say that the sex parties were held under conditions of utmost security. Armed secret agents monitored every event to ensure the safety - not to mention the anonymity - of the prominent participants.

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30248



cptmarginal wrote:.He's obviously likely to be a member of the Grand Orient of France, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that he's also been affiliated with some right-wing underground groups. Probably even the ones, as has been common in France, who style themselves as some kind of pseudo-Masonic or neo-chivalric orders.


Unlike most of France's political elite, but like Nicolas Sarkozy - and Marine Le Pen - Strauss-Khan is not a civil-servant and a graduate of the top governmental school, ENA.

www.telegraph.co.uk

which prompts the possibility of other affiliations being a factor in achieving his position....
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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby lupercal » Mon May 16, 2011 3:32 pm

^ good grief that seems awfully harsh considering how little we know about this guy and the circumstances of his alleged crime. As I said before, we know plenty about Sarkozy, and none of it leads me to conclude that this guy is guilty of what he's been charged with.

semper occultus wrote:which prompts the possibility of other affiliations being a factor in achieving his position....
My understanding is that Sarkozy put him up for IMF to keep him off the radar in France. Doesn't seem to have worked.

justdrew wrote:why would the defense makes claims about the alibi, such obviously verifiable details, if they weren't true?
That would be my question too.
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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby Nordic » Mon May 16, 2011 3:46 pm

Wouldn't it be weird if they had a look-alike rape her?

How to fake the DNA, though ....?
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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby DrVolin » Mon May 16, 2011 3:48 pm

all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

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Re: IMF managing director arrested, accused of sexual attack

Postby Nordic » Mon May 16, 2011 3:50 pm

DrVolin wrote:http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=lab-creates-fake-dna-evidence-2009-08-18


:shock:

Nucleix, a Tel-Aviv-based life sciences company, was able to create credible DNA evidence that could be used to finger the wrong person, proof that even genetic evidence can be manipulated (beyond planting a hair or used cigarette) just like other physical traces.

"You can just engineer a crime scene," Nucleix founder Dan Frumkin told The New York Times. "The current forensic procedure fails to distinguish between such samples of blood, saliva, and touched surfaces with artificial DNA, and corresponding samples with in vivo generated (natural) DNA," Frumkin and co-authors wrote in a recent Forensic Science International: Genetics study that announced the technological achievement.

But, don't worry, like a hacker taking down servers to sell cyber security services, Nucleix has a fix: a system that can detect the difference between natural and manufactured DNA. It looks for a lack of methylation; an addition of methyl groups to DNA occurs naturally in genetic code, but it isn't found in Nucleix's manipulated DNA.

To make the fake DNA, all the researchers needed was a small sample of the DNA they wanted to plant (such as that from hair or lingering in saliva left on a discarded coffee cup) and blood from a donor. Donor blood was centrifuged to separate DNA-containing white cells and DNA-free red cells. The researchers then expanded the filched DNA into a larger sample size via whole genome amplification and added it to the DNA-free red blood cells from the donor. Poof! Blood that matched the genetic profile of the person to be framed—not the donor—was created.


How tied in with the Israeli government is Nucleix??

I mean, if anybody knows how to blackmail .....


on edit: DrViolin, that is worthy of its own thread! Hope you don't mind, I'm gonna go ahead and do that ...
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