Bin Laden Death Propaganda: Wake Up Call To Activists

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Re: Bin Laden Death Propaganda: Wake Up Call To Activists

Postby Nordic » Thu May 05, 2011 7:24 pm

Okay, I can't help but hope, and this is a cynical hope, that those who are actually in charge of things are realizing that the continued trillions of dollars being spent on the wars are destroying the dollar and thus the country and (mainly) thus their position in the world.

I hope that maybe they're thinking "wow, this whole eternal war thing is starting to fall into the "diminishing returns" area, and we're gonna have to cut it WAY WAY back in order to consolidate our positions and not have a complete collapse of the dollar and everything that will bring."

I'm hoping that a collapse of the dollar for these evil motherfuckers would be a bad thing for them.

Because economically things were definitely getting between a rock and a hard place. It's at the point where they can either destroy the dollar, or destroy the stock market. Pick one. I'm hoping they're trying to backpedal out of this situation by finding reasons to cut WAY back on military spending, which is, of course, what's really fucking up the budget (that and the fact that their rich oil baron buddies don't pay ANY taxes).

And now? Suddenly, the price of oil falls, the price of silver plummets, the price of gold falls, it's like somebody pulled the plug on the tension that was ratcheting things up to the point where something was about to blow.

That's what I'm hoping anyway. I'm always an optimist, even in the most depressive ways.

The other option is that they're gonna use this as some people fear, and really ratchet things up. But I don't think they can afford that, I really don't. It's always been vastly important for them, in America, to perpetuate the BELIEF that we're in a Democracy. Its a whole lot less expensive than having an intense military state, soldiers on every street corners, tanks in every street, and angry millions hurling rocks and molotov cocktails at you 24/7.

Propaganda is relatively cheap, and they do now have complete control of the television sets in our country.

So as long as people can pay their cable bills, they might as well sit back and relax. Even the PTB's may have realized they've maxed out their credit cards.

Let's face it, the United States is bankrupt. But like Wiley E. Coyote running off the cliff, they REALLY don't want everyone to start looking down.

People were starting to look down and that's why the prices of gold and silver were going through the roof. My last trip to the coin shop, all the guys in there are like clucking and shaking their heads about how it was just about the end of the world. And it was busier than I've ever seen it.
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Re: Bin Laden Death Propaganda: Wake Up Call To Activists

Postby 8bitagent » Thu May 05, 2011 8:58 pm

Nordic, I agree that *logically* those we think are in control would say "ok...we're stretched way too thin, we can't keep spending trillions on security/war/etc especially with the dollar so weak...we can't keep people total sheep for too long"

But, I wonder if it's even up to them. Even if every neocon, neo-lib and Goldman Sachs lackey wanted to reverse course...it's not in their control. All it would take is a massive attack beyond even their control to push things toward the tipping point. I truly don't think the buck stops with the government, spooks and pentagon planners. If you look at WW1 and WW2, it seems like outside forces were manipulating both sides to fight. Certainly, you had financial interests financing and making money off both sides. I mean let's say they realized they can only go so far with Pax Americana, who is to say some even more hidden globalist faction wouldn't stage something. The bizarre US/Pakistan dynamic fracturing in the public spectacle by design or strain reflects a schism many saw coming; but I fear something may push it over the edge. India wants to attack Pakistan more than vice versa; you might have elements inside India false flag themselves to "blame on the ISI". I wonder how many stirred up Islamic groups the RAW in India controls as double bind Kashmir buffers.

And every day it seems the chaos and war in Mexico(some of less than a mile from the border) keeps spinning out of control as it's clear the banks are supporting the cartel violence. Then, we see what can shakeup when natural disasters hit, another x factor(like the Pakistani floods) And I'm sure the North Korean yarn isn't over, nor the US-Israel-Iran-Syria narrative.

The thing is there are so many variables. Right when we thought the Palestinians and Israels finally reached what seemed close to peace, and we finally got a non far right Israeli hawk as pm in Rabin...some right wing faction of Israel takes him out. Hopefully even just domestic attitudes will change. Seeing Obama with legless war vets should really have hit home how evil and horrible these wars are both financially and life wise, but that just doesn't seem to be coming across to people.

I plan to stand with a few of the middle aged anti war protesters at the month big art walk/street faire party here in my city soon with a sign that says "Give Peace A Chance, Obama" and "Real Liberals Hate War" or something like that.
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Re: Bin Laden Death Propaganda: Wake Up Call To Activists

Postby DrVolin » Thu May 05, 2011 9:19 pm

They can stretch it as long as people accept US dollars, and people will accept them as long as there are Predator drones with Hellfire missiles and space based nukes over their heads. The US dollar is the Reichmark of the 21st century.
all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

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Re: Bin Laden Death Propaganda: Wake Up Call To Activists

Postby thatsmystory » Sat May 21, 2011 12:39 am

8bitagent wrote:
Forgetting2 wrote:
These are smaller events in the plot of things. The story for this one will likely unravel as Jack predicts, but this is a big one in the plans of the PTB in my opinion, and had likely been given it's birthdate long ago and is, I feel, undoubtably a significant turning point.


I remember having an argument with a fellow truther on here, they said Osama bin Laden has been dead for awhile. I cautioned against believing that, and said while Anwar Awlaki was being touted as the next big boogeyman...that the PTB are not done with the bin Laden story just yet. I felt they had one more story regarding bin Laden for this year, and I felt it was either going to be his death or live capture or him coming out of the shadows in an unmistakably new video. I actually thought for certain it would be bin Laden being captured alive, because seeing him on video like Saddam would be quite dramatic.


I watched Fox News Reporting: Secrets of 9/11.

-Awlaki's links to al-Hazmi, al-Mihdhar and Hanjour were covered in detail.

-Mohdhar Abdullah's ties to al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were covered.

-Adnan Shukrijumah's link to Atta was covered.

-The Saudi support network in San Diego was covered in detail (i.e. Bayoumi, Bassnan, FBI informant Shaikh).

-There were a couple of people I've never heard of who assisted some of the hijackers in Patterson, NJ.

-The main source was Bob Graham who focused on Saudi ties to the hijackers. Graham wrote a novel which will be released on 6/7/11.

-FBI agent Mark Rossini spoke briefly about the failure to share the al-Hazmi/al-Mihdhar US visa info with the FBI. As usual the reason for the failure was completely glossed over and dismissed as dropping the ball. In a report billed as "Secrets of 9/11" it is telling that this secret was simply ignored.
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Re: Bin Laden Death Propaganda: Wake Up Call To Activists

Postby 8bitagent » Sat May 21, 2011 7:06 am

thatsmystory wrote:
8bitagent wrote:
Forgetting2 wrote:
These are smaller events in the plot of things. The story for this one will likely unravel as Jack predicts, but this is a big one in the plans of the PTB in my opinion, and had likely been given it's birthdate long ago and is, I feel, undoubtably a significant turning point.


I remember having an argument with a fellow truther on here, they said Osama bin Laden has been dead for awhile. I cautioned against believing that, and said while Anwar Awlaki was being touted as the next big boogeyman...that the PTB are not done with the bin Laden story just yet. I felt they had one more story regarding bin Laden for this year, and I felt it was either going to be his death or live capture or him coming out of the shadows in an unmistakably new video. I actually thought for certain it would be bin Laden being captured alive, because seeing him on video like Saddam would be quite dramatic.


I watched Fox News Reporting: Secrets of 9/11.

-Awlaki's links to al-Hazmi, al-Mihdhar and Hanjour were covered in detail.

-Mohdhar Abdullah's ties to al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were covered.

-Adnan Shukrijumah's link to Atta was covered.

-The Saudi support network in San Diego was covered in detail (i.e. Bayoumi, Bassnan, FBI informant Shaikh).

-There were a couple of people I've never heard of who assisted some of the hijackers in Patterson, NJ.

-The main source was Bob Graham who focused on Saudi ties to the hijackers. Graham wrote a novel which will be released on 6/7/11.

-FBI agent Mark Rossini spoke briefly about the failure to share the al-Hazmi/al-Mihdhar US visa info with the FBI. As usual the reason for the failure was completely glossed over and dismissed as dropping the ball. In a report billed as "Secrets of 9/11" it is telling that this secret was simply ignored.


Holy effing shit, are you kidding me?

I got goosebumps reading this. This is the documentary I actually wanted to make, and had discussed in detail with various researchers online some time ago. We wanted to track down and interview current and retired FBI agents in San Diego, Virginia, Florida, and Oklahoma. Wanted to try and find and interview Melvin Lattimore AKA Mujahid Menepta(suspected of involvement in 9/11, WTC and OKC) Wanted to look into the Berg/Moussaoui connection. Get intimately deep into the whole Ptech/Al Qadi/Boston al Kifah/Care/Logan Furniture/WTC 1993/Ali Mohamed/Aaifa Sidduqi/Saudi narrative.

I really don't care if some truthers want to call me a "hijackerologist", because I do feel that the only real way to show people the deep state globalist stringpulling of the 9/11 event is to expose who was stage managing the 9/11 hijackers. I mean, these guys credit cards, passports, and even the selection of the flight schools were all being ran by spook elements in Saudi Arabia that answer to very deep NWO Western networks. Dave Emory of Spitfire grill has exhaustively gone over so much of the evidence. I absolutely do believe the towers were sabotaged, but I also feel exploring the hijackers and the entire network of "al Qaeda" from 1990 to 2001 exposes the entire house of cards.

Anyways, I cannot wait to watch this special and am shocked it's coming from Fox of all places...though, they have been coming around in a strange sort of limited hangout way.
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Re: Bin Laden Death Propaganda: Wake Up Call To Activists

Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Sat May 21, 2011 10:20 am

This, from Sibel Edmonds, has to do with the timing of the thing and seems particularly relevant. Though, maybe it belongs in another thread as well?
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/05/19/bin-laden-death-script-the-needed-trigger-for-next-step-pakistan/
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Re: Bin Laden Death Propaganda: Wake Up Call To Activists

Postby 8bitagent » Sat May 21, 2011 5:04 pm

Spiro C. Thiery wrote:This, from Sibel Edmonds, has to do with the timing of the thing and seems particularly relevant. Though, maybe it belongs in another thread as well?
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/05/19/bin-laden-death-script-the-needed-trigger-for-next-step-pakistan/


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