Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Searcher08 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:15 pm

coffin_dodger wrote:@ searcher (sorry to turn this into a south-west london lovefest, everyone :lovehearts: ) - I grew up in Twickenham, now live in Hampton. Shit, we might even know one another!

I have to say, I'm ABSOLUTELY LOVING seeing these elites squirm. And so much more to come!


That would be really funny!
"Hey, I recognise you - you were piloting a black helicopter over my house!!!"

and absolutely,the more to come bit is amazing - just little throw away things like all the non-phone hacking bits - tracking bugs, Trojan software and my intuition is at its heart a very very dodgy deal between The Met Police and News Corp to 'help each other out' around covering up that private investigator murder all those years ago - corrupt cops organising cocaine distribution and being rumbled for it...
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby hanshan » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:56 pm

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Searcher08:

and absolutely,the more to come bit is amazing - just little throw away things like all the non-phone hacking bits - tracking bugs, Trojan software and my intuition is at its heart a very very dodgy deal between The Met Police and News Corp to 'help each other out' around covering up that private investigator murder all those years ago - corrupt cops organising cocaine distribution and being rumbled for it...




Rebekka Brookes CEO Of News International, has been spotted at Russett Lodge!!

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Murdoch has been the kingmaker in the UK since Thatcher - I would suggest his influence on UK culture has been MUCH more powerful and pervasive than UK Intel or the CIA agencies.

News Corp is also, in an aspect that is not being reported AFAICS, in a state of virtual civil war as Rupert want his newer kids (with his Chinese wife, whom his older children loathe, in a battle straight outta Dynesty) to inherit the kingdom.


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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:09 pm

hanshan wrote:...


Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:The Guardian is doing reporting on this kerfuffle that buys it creds for it's disinfo stories framing Bradley Manning as a patsy to occlude the David Manning memo of March 2002.

Amy Goodman just broadcast an event where Julian Assange spoke at length. So that wikileaks ball is part of the juggling of media credibility issues.


Astute observation, HMW. As they are conflated, conflating.


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:roll:

I've pulled Hugh up on here before for spouting off about shit he knows fuck all about in relation to UK politics. When he's on his safe ground of US based stuff, particularly media related stuff, he's worth paying attention imo to because even if sometimes he's talking bollocks, it's at least thought provoking. And sometimes he's on the money. Unfortunately as soon as he tries to venture outside this he tends to look a bit silly. So I asked a couple of questions (sarcastically I admit, but still pertinent) :

gnosticheresy_2 wrote:So Murdoch shut down the biggest selling newspaper in the UK, one which still makes a hefty profit and laid off a couple of hundred journalists in order to "occlude the anniversary of the inside-job 7/7"? And he did this using the amazingly cunning method of hacking the 7/7 victims phones thus ensuring that everyone gets reminded of it?


And Hugh, typically, avoided the obvious answers (yes, no, yes but, no but, possibly, you're a twat etc etc) in favour of a couple of paragraphs of tangential irrelevance

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Murdoch is not an independent mogul. He's been in bed with spook culture ever since post-Vietnam CIA drug culture used Australia for laundering profits.
His anglophone psyops empire is used by CIA/MI5/MI6 for their own agendas and he can even be used as a Nixon-esque whipping boy to hide The System's WORSE crimes.


Yes and?

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Hide what?
Hide that Total Surveillance and Miilitary-controlled Media has been the social control system in place for decades.
This is in danger of being exposed.

So is the impossible role of cellphones to embed the cover story of 9/11. Hence the value of tying into 7/7 thematically.

BUT. Now the subject is 'merely that Murdoch jerk's TABLOIDS hacking celebrities for sensationalism and profits.'
A limited hangout diversion.
Crumbs thrown to hide the cake.
And Murdoch is just today's Nixon.


Except it's not just about celebrities is it Hugh? As I'm sure you'd be aware if you'd bothered to do some fucking research for once instead of just re-reading that Army Psy-Ops manual that's been under your pillow for the last twenty years. In fact if it was "just about celebrities" I wouldn't be ranting at you on t'internet at all! Imagine that!

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:This technique is called personification or 'the man who....' and has been used many times.
Like James Bamford calling the Rendon Group "The Man Who Sold the War."
Like Jane CIA Mayer spotlighting the Koch Brothers instead of the Koch who built the Twin Towers and wondered where all the floors went to plus the cocaine economy in Prof. Peter Dale Scott's latest book, 'American War Machine.'

The System Must Go On. And this kerfuffle diverts and buys time.


Yes yes, it's all the magic CIA, no place for egotistical sociopath CEOs in your universe. In fact as much as you like to criticise others on RI for having an obsession with WOO, I'd say the main proponent of magical thinking on here is you with your omniscient CIA-religion-god-theory that you bring into every conversation.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Stephen Morgan » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:51 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:The Guardian is doing reporting on this kerfuffle that buys it creds for it's disinfo stories framing Bradley Manning as a patsy to occlude the David Manning memo of March 2002.

Amy Goodman just broadcast an event where Julian Assange spoke at length. So that wikileaks ball is part of the juggling of media credibility issues.


I see that Assange is having a big birthday party for his 40th at a mansion near Norwich, Angelina Jolie amongst the A-list guest list, helicopter landings by prior arrangment only.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby hanshan » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:57 pm

Stephen Morgan wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:The Guardian is doing reporting on this kerfuffle that buys it creds for it's disinfo stories framing Bradley Manning as a patsy to occlude the David Manning memo of March 2002.

Amy Goodman just broadcast an event where Julian Assange spoke at length. So that wikileaks ball is part of the juggling of media credibility issues.


I see that Assange is having a big birthday party for his 40th at a mansion near Norwich, Angelina Jolie amongst the A-list guest list, helicopter landings by prior arrangment only.


okaayy, Stephen. Snag some tix; mount the Concorde; meet you Merseyside


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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Searcher08 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:59 pm

Stephen Morgan wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:The Guardian is doing reporting on this kerfuffle that buys it creds for it's disinfo stories framing Bradley Manning as a patsy to occlude the David Manning memo of March 2002.

Amy Goodman just broadcast an event where Julian Assange spoke at length. So that wikileaks ball is part of the juggling of media credibility issues.


I see that Assange is having a big birthday party for his 40th at a mansion near Norwich, Angelina Jolie amongst the A-list guest list, helicopter landings by prior arrangment only.


He seems to have fired his lawyers and stiffed them for the bill for legal fees, which was to have come from his book but which is is now backing away from as he appears concerned it could land in deeper poop with the Yanquis.

Hanshan - when you get there, the password is: Fidelio :angelwings:
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby hanshan » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:08 pm

Searcher08 wrote:
Stephen Morgan wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:The Guardian is doing reporting on this kerfuffle that buys it creds for it's disinfo stories framing Bradley Manning as a patsy to occlude the David Manning memo of March 2002.

Amy Goodman just broadcast an event where Julian Assange spoke at length. So that wikileaks ball is part of the juggling of media credibility issues.


I see that Assange is having a big birthday party for his 40th at a mansion near Norwich, Angelina Jolie amongst the A-list guest list, helicopter landings by prior arrangment only.


He seems to have fired his lawyers and stiffed them for the bill for legal fees, which was to have come from his book but which is is now backing away from as he appears concerned it could land in deeper poop with the Yanquis.

Hanshan - when you get there, the password is: Fidelio :angelwings:


yeah...
:rofl:

he doesn't have to be a putz;
he could pay his lawyers out of the Wiki account, no?
Damn Yanquis.

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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Harvey » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:07 pm

@Searcher, Coffin_Dodger

Just watching Steve Coogan and Greg Dyke (may the angels bless him) on Newsnight tearing Paul McMullen (former scandel editor @ NoTW) a new one.

Profoundly satisfying.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:37 pm

Harvey wrote:@Searcher, Coffin_Dodger

Just watching Steve Coogan and Greg Dyke (may the angels bless him) on Newsnight tearing Paul McMullen (former scandel editor @ NoTW) a new one.

Profoundly satisfying.


I thought he was going to whack Paul McMullan he was so angry :yay :yay :yay . Very good (though obviously it's a CIA plot to undermine Alan Partridge, the mentalist)
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Harvey » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:54 pm

gnosticheresy_2 wrote:
Harvey wrote:Very good (though obviously it's a CIA plot to undermine Alan Partridge, the mentalist)


: )

Yes, it was impossible for them both to disguise their very flesh creeping in this guys company, Dyke could only bring himself to point when refering to the guy... Wonderful television.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:13 pm

British phone hacking scandal hits second tabloid, crosses borders

The phone hacking inquiry broadened Friday with a police raid on the Daily Star Sunday and allegations that News of the World broke into a Scottish politician's voicemail.

In this April 2010 photo, Andy Coulson, formerly editor of the tabloid News of the World, and later David Cameron's director of communications, speaks on a mobile phone in London. London police on Friday arrested Coulson, in relation to Britain's tabloid phone-hacking scandal.

By Jason Walsh, Correspondent / July 8, 2011
Dublin

In another twist in the British phone hacking scandal, police raided the offices of Britain's Daily Star Sunday and are looking into allegations that News of the World broke into a Scottish politician's voicemail.
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Friday's raid on the Daily Star Sunday, which unlike NotW is not owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, followed the arrest of two former NotW employees this morning. One of them, Andy Coulson, is a former aide to British Prime Minister David Cameron.

Mr. Coulson, the paper's editor when the hacking took place, turned himself in to police, but former colleague and royal correspondent Clive Goodman was arrested in a dawn raid. Mr. Goodman previously served four months in prison for intercepting royal phone calls. Both Goodman and Coulson have been released on bail.

The Daily Star Sunday said the raid on their offices stemmed from an investigation of Goodman, who worked for the newspaper as a freelancer after leaving NotW.

"There was no suggestion whatsoever that Mr. Goodman had acted improperly during his occasional shifts at the Daily Star Sunday, and we can confirm that no payments of any kind were ever made by the newspaper to Clive Goodman contacts,” it said.

The investigation's expansion into other companies does not mean the troubles are over for the soon-to-be defunct NotW or its owner, News International, a UK subsidiary of Mr. Murdoch's News Corporation. Allegations of their own phone hacking have spread beyond England and police in Glasgow have been ordered by Scottish prosecutors to investigate.

The allegations in Scotland are centered on Tommy Sheridan, a former Scottish Socialist Party politician who was convicted of perjury in 2010 partially based on evidence that was presented in court by NotW. Mr. Sherridan sued the publication in 2006 after it published claims that he had engaged in extra-marital affairs. He was awarded £200,000 ($321,000) in damages, but an investigation into whether Sheridan and his wife misled the court began the same year.

On Wednesday, Labour Party MP Tom Watson expressed doubts in the Westminster parliament about the soundness of Sheridan's perjury conviction.

There are no signs of the scandal spreading outside the UK. Ireland’s press ombudsman, John Horgan, said he is not aware of any allegations against Irish editions of British tabloids.

In 1998, the Irish Daily Mirror, a local edition of a British-owned newspaper, reported that Irish politicians’ voicemail messages could be listened to simply by dialing their number and pressing 0000. But there

But Mr. Horgan says, “I have no complaints about those kinds of activities in Ireland since I took up the job in 2008.”

A statement from Ireland's Press Council, on which Horgan sits, said any such allegations "will be processed in the normal way."



Third Arrest Over Made Over Phone Hacking Scandal
News Of The World Arrest

A third person is reported arrested in connection with corruption and phone hacking allegations at News of The World.

A 63-year-old man was arrested at 20:22 on Friday at a residential address in Surrey, police said in a statement, but did not identify him.

"Officers from the MPS' Operation Weeting together with officers from Operation Elveden arrested a man on suspicion of corruption allegations contrary to Section 1 of the Prevention of Corruption Act 1906," the statement said.

The two operations are investigating allegations of phone hacking and payments to police respectively.

The development comes after Andy Coulson, former News of the World Editor and ex-chief media adviser to David Cameron, was arrested and later released on bail until October.

Clive Goodman, former royal editor of the paper, was also detained on Friday. He was jailed for four months in 2007 after he pleaded guilty to intercepting phone messages.

The News of the World is publishing its final edition on Sunday, after claims that it paid private investigators to illegally intercept the voicemail messages of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler, bereaved military families and relatives of 7/7 bombing victims.

It also stands accused of paying thousands of pounds illegally to corrupt police officers.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:14 pm

Saw that as well, Harvey (edit: and Gnostic). I thought Coogan was going to murder that scrawny deviant McMullan as well. McMullan just couldn't get it through his addled head that he's never been a real journalist.

Latest reports are that an unidentified 63-year-old male has been picked up by the Met in relation to all this - obviously dobbed in by Coulson earlier today during his interview. I thought it might be Andy Hayman, former Assistant Commissioner for Specialist Operations at the Met, who headed the original investigation and said he had "left no stone unturned". But he was born in 1959, so he'd only be 53. Maybe next week?

So much has been happening, and there's tons to say, but I've got no time. Thanks for the link about Daniel Morgan earlier in the thread, Byrne, and yep, Coffin-Dodger, what you thought was going on with that case is pretty much what seems to be coming out now ( little by little).

George Galloway was doing a great show on this subject earlier tonight. He's back onto it now actually. He couldn't discuss Tommy Sheridan, so a new case is obviously active there already. At this rate Tommy and Coulson might pass each other at the prison gates - Tommy coming out, Andy going in.

George made the point that nobody should feel too sorry for the newly-unemployed NOTW journos, since their paper has been telling us all for years that benefit claimants in Britain (especially immigrant ones) live in five bedroom houses worth millions of pounds, and are given more money by the state than they know what to do with. lol.

Still have to feel a bit sorry for this guy, though, the NOTW's former film reviewer:

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Somewhat amusing to see sub-editors from The Sun walking out in solidarity with their NOTW colleagues yesterday, after the numerous stitch-ups they've done on strikers down the years, and especially on the leaders of the teachers' strike recently. I doubt we have many Sun readers here, and this is what we've been missing:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... rikes.html

Hard to believe they had sub-editors to start with.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Harvey » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:25 pm

AhabsOtherLeg wrote:Saw that as well, Harvey (edit: and Gnostic). I thought Coogan was going to murder that scrawny deviant McMullan as well. McMullan just couldn't get it through his addled head that he's never been a real journalist.

Latest reports are that an unidentified 63-year-old male has been picked up by the Met in relation to all this - obviously dobbed in by Coulson earlier today during his interview. I thought it might be Andy Hayman, former Assistant Commissioner for Specialist Operations at the Met, who headed the original investigation and said he had "left no stone unturned". But he was born in 1959, so he'd only be 53. Maybe next week?

So much has been happening, and there's tons to say, but I've got no time. Thanks for the link about Daniel Morgan earlier in the thread, Byrne, and yep, Coffin-Dodger, what you thought was going on with that case is pretty much what seems to be coming out now ( little by little).

George Galloway was doing a great show on this subject earlier tonight. He's back onto it now actually. He couldn't discuss Tommy Sheridan, so a new case is obviously active there already. At this rate Tommy and Coulson might pass each other at the prison gates - Tommy coming out, Andy going in.

George made the point that nobody should feel too sorry for the newly-unemployed NOTW journos, since their paper has been telling us all for years that benefit claimants in Britain (especially immigrant ones) live in five bedroom houses worth millions of pounds, and are given more money by the state than they know what to do with. lol.

Still have to feel a bit sorry for this guy, though, the NOTW's former film reviewer:

Image

Somewhat amusing to see sub-editors from The Sun walking out in solidarity with their NOTW colleagues yesterday, after the numerous stitch-ups they've done on strikers down the years, and especially on the leaders of the teachers' strike recently. I doubt we have many Sun readers here, and this is what we've been missing:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... rikes.html

Hard to believe they had sub-editors to start with.



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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:42 pm

Oh God... sorry for double-post, and for linking to The Sun, but this is just terrible.

Sara Payne pays tribute to axed News of the World

By STAFF REPORTER
Published: 08 Jul 2011


THE mum of murdered schoolgirl Sarah Payne has paid tribute to the News of the World — saying she felt "like a friend had just died".

Justice campaigner Sara joined forces with the Sunday paper after her daughter's death and it championed her fight against sick paedophiles.

Together they pressed for Sarah's law, which allows people such as single mums to check if people close to their children are sex offenders.

And she credits the paper with helping her through her darkest hour after Roy Whiting murdered her little girl in 2000.

Sara said she found the phone hacking allegations "disgusting" but paid tribute to the journalists she described as friends who had helped expose vile monsters...

"The NOTW team supported me through some of the darkest, most difficult times of my life and became my trusted friends.

"One example of their support was to give me a phone to help me stay in touch with my family, friends and support network, which turned out to be an absolute lifeline.


"Since Sarah was murdered, my marriage broke down, my brother passed away, then my mother and then my father.

"I just don't know what I would have done without being able to reach out to my friends and family 'whenever I needed them' during these very dark times and it helped me stay in touch with the NOTW team regarding their support for my campaign to bring about Sarah's Law which went national this year."...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... World.html



Jesus Christ. The NOTW gave her a phone to keep in touch with her family. If it turns out that even their Sarah's Law campaign was tainted from the start then it's not surprising that the paper itself is gone. No wonder they're running scared.

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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:47 pm

Harvey wrote:Oh the sweet fucking irony.


Perhaps the best bit of all this is that Coulson committed perjury while giving evidence at a high-profile perjury trial.

It definitely wasn't intelligence that kept these people in power, eh? Fear and fear alone keeps them in place. When the fear goes, so do they. Like Mubarak.
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