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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Searcher08 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:32 pm

8bitagent wrote:Hacking the voicemail of 9/11 victims?

Wow...hopefully Murdoch doesn't politically survive this scandal


I'm really curious how this will play out.
Both Thatcher and Blair were close to Murdoch.

The dynamic seems to be that
A cops are not afraid of NI
B cops are afraid of politicians
C politicians are afraid of NI

has shifted to
D cops are not afraid of NI and are no longer being restrained by pols
E cops are afraid of politicians
F politicians are acting like wildebeest crossing the Krueger River and adopting a safety in massed numbers against the NI crocs
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:15 am

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Awareness
... by DARPA, CIA, NSA, NRO, DIA, FBI, MI5, MI6, Mossad, etc.

Oh, but a tabloid....TOTAL LIMITED HANGOUT DIVERSION. Get a clue.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:20 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Total
Information
Awareness
... by DARPA, CIA, NSA, NRO, DIA, FBI, MI5, MI6, Mossad, etc.

Oh, but a tabloid....TOTAL LIMITED HANGOUT DIVERSION. Get a clue.


You really don't understand what's happening do you? "a tabloid"? eh? Is that what you think this is about? You're not so much annoying, more a bit tragic.

In other news, came across this (6th comment down)


Why Murdoch should never be allowed to get anywhere near a BSkyB takeover.

ITVDigital launched a new satellite channel in the UK, they used the same encrypted card system used by a major French broadcaster Canal plus. These guys are in competition with Sky, and they bought the rights to National league football at considerable cost for distribution on their network starting in 2011. By mid 2000 the European markets were flooded with cracked decoder cards for Canal plus and ITVDigital.

The only group known to have cracked these cards was an Israeli branch of NDS a tech company owned by Newscorp. It appears that they were paid to do this.

Meanwhile a British arm of NDS gave funds to a site called the House of Ill Compute where the code for cracking the cards appeared. This seems to have been facilitated by a guy called Ray Adams a “retired” Met Policeman (then head of security at NDS) with a controversial past. Adams paid another guy called Lee Gibling who ran the House of Ill Compute who “disappeared” at the time when all this kicked off and Canal+ started litigation.

The result of the cracked code was catastrophic for British Football because without fee paying subscribers ITVDigital had no hope of paying clubs the fees they owed. Football clubs would have undoubtedly spent much of their money in advance. Elsewhere ITVDigital was under pressure from BSB allegedly at the behest of guess who?

ITVDigital was in the hands of the liquidators by 2002.

It appears that 2002 for Rupert.

This is the sort of stuff that makes movies but no one really wants the bad guy to win do they ?

These links are all to the Guardian I’m afraid they are the only ones could find.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... a.citynews

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... iracy.news

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... ty.hacking

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2002/ap ... oadcasting

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2002/de ... erbusiness


http://publicaddress.net/system/topic/3 ... 50#replies


Now that's pretty fucking mindblowing all on it's own. :shock:
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:18 am

Sky is saying that News Corporation has withdrawn its bid for BSkyB.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/20 ... e#block-62
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby crikkett » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:31 am

gnosticheresy_2 wrote:

Why Murdoch should never be allowed to get anywhere near a BSkyB takeover.

ITVDigital launched a new satellite channel in the UK, they used the same encrypted card system used by a major French broadcaster Canal plus. These guys are in competition with Sky, and they bought the rights to National league football at considerable cost for distribution on their network starting in 2011. By mid 2000 the European markets were flooded with cracked decoder cards for Canal plus and ITVDigital.

The only group known to have cracked these cards was an Israeli branch of NDS a tech company owned by Newscorp. It appears that they were paid to do this.

Meanwhile a British arm of NDS gave funds to a site called the House of Ill Compute where the code for cracking the cards appeared. This seems to have been facilitated by a guy called Ray Adams a “retired” Met Policeman (then head of security at NDS) with a controversial past. Adams paid another guy called Lee Gibling who ran the House of Ill Compute who “disappeared” at the time when all this kicked off and Canal+ started litigation.

The result of the cracked code was catastrophic for British Football because without fee paying subscribers ITVDigital had no hope of paying clubs the fees they owed. Football clubs would have undoubtedly spent much of their money in advance. Elsewhere ITVDigital was under pressure from BSB allegedly at the behest of guess who?

ITVDigital was in the hands of the liquidators by 2002.

It appears that 2002 for Rupert.

This is the sort of stuff that makes movies but no one really wants the bad guy to win do they ?

These links are all to the Guardian I’m afraid they are the only ones could find.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... a.citynews

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... iracy.news

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... ty.hacking

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2002/ap ... oadcasting

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2002/de ... erbusiness


http://publicaddress.net/system/topic/3 ... 50#replies


Now that's pretty fucking mindblowing all on it's own. :shock:


I bolded a sentence that made no sense. What was it supposed to say?
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:31 am

crikkett wrote:
gnosticheresy_2 wrote:

Why Murdoch should never be allowed to get anywhere near a BSkyB takeover.

It appears that 2002 for Rupert.

http://publicaddress.net/system/topic/3 ... 50#replies


Now that's pretty fucking mindblowing all on it's own. :shock:


I bolded a sentence that made no sense. What was it supposed to say?


Don't know, it's like that at the source. Maybe something happened in 2002 with Murdoch, haven't got time to check now, will have a look later.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:26 am




Liverpool was right about News International all along
My song, Never Buy the Sun, pays tribute to the scousers who started their own boycott after the Hillsborough stadium disaster

guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 13 July 2011 12.14 BST

20th anniversary of Hillsborough disaster
Football scarves from around the world pictured at the Hillsborough memorial on the 20th anniversary of the disaster in which 96 fans died. Many Liverpudlians still boycott the Sun over its coverage of the disaster. Photograph: Peter Byrne/PA
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For the past 22 years, people in Liverpool have boycotted the Sun newspaper because of the lies that it printed about the behaviour of Liverpool FC fans at the Hillsborough disaster. Ninety-six people were crushed to death at a football match at Hillsborough in Sheffield on 15 April 1989. The Sun ran a front page story that accused Liverpool supporters of variously robbing and urinating on the dead bodies of the victims as they were laid along the touchline. The reports were totally unfounded. Since then, many people in Liverpool have refused to buy the Sun on principle.

As I listened to the unfolding reports of the phone-hacking story last week, it occurred to me that the scousers had been right about News International all along.



Sen. Jay Rockefeller Seeks U.S. Agency Probes of News Corp. Phone Hacking
By Anthony Palazzo - Jul 12, 2011 7:53 PM CT

Senator Jay Rockefeller called for U.S. agencies to investigate whether alleged phone hacking at News Corp. (NWSA)’s U.K. newspapers targeted American victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

“I am concerned that the admitted phone hacking in London by the News Corp. may have extended to 9/11 victims or other Americans,” Rockefeller, a Democrat from West Virginia, said today in a statement posted on the website of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, which he chairs. “If they did, the consequences will be severe.”

Reporters at the now-defunct News of the World tabloid are alleged to have hacked into hundreds of mobile-phone voice mails, including those of murder and terror victims, and bribed police for confidential information. The scandal prompted Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Rupert Murdoch to close the 168-year-old tabloid.

According to a report in the Daily Mirror, a competitor to News of the World and other News Corp. publications, an unnamed private investigator and former New York City police officer alleged reporters at the newspaper offered to pay him to retrieve private phone records of victims of the 9/11 attacks.

The private investigator turned down the assignment, the Mirror said, citing an unnamed source.

The hacking allegations represent an “offensive and serious breach of journalistic ethics” that raises questions about whether New York broke U.S. law,’’ Rockefeller said in his statement.

Politicians from Britain’s three major parties, including Prime Minister David Cameron, have called on News Corp. to drop its bid to purchase all of British Sky Broadcasting Group Plc (BSY), as authorities investigate the phone-hacking and bribery allegations.


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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby kenoma » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:10 pm

Destruction of evidence happening now:

Why is News International Changing its Email System Now?

News International are in the midst of one of the biggest scandals in media history, with allegations it ordered the hacking of the phone and e-mail accounts of missing children, Royalty and Prime Minister’s, but it’s just a complete coincidence that the very same week that the News of the World went under that management inform their employees that a change in e-mail operating systems will curtail access to all e-mails over one year old. Well that’s the likely story being offered by Simon Greenberg, Director of Corporate Affairs at News International.

Last week, as the News of the World went into freefall, Dublin based News International staff were called in for meetings with Information Technology experts from the organisations Wapping headquarters.

The staff were told how the organisations email platform, Microsoft Outlook was changing to the free Google Mail system, staff were also informed of how they would no longer be able to access mail sent from or received on their old accounts before a certain cut off point - believed to be 12 months prior to when the change takes place.


When News Internationals Dublin office were contacted earlier this afternoon the issue was bounced across to London were just after six o’clock I managed to get through to an exasperated Simon Greenberg, Director of Corporate Affairs at News International, who declared the issue a ‘non-story’, stating it was a pan organisation switch to Google Mail and that it had ‘nothing to do with the current situation’ at News International.

When he was pressed on the issue of whether Journalists could access e-mails sent or received from their old Microsoft Outlook accounts, after the switch, he refused to comment, continually stating that it was an “organisation wide move” and that it was a “non-story” refusing to answer whether e-mail’s from the time the various accounts were created to the present day could all be accessed equally.

Mr Greensburg explained that he was a very busy man before abruptly ending our two minute chat.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby eyeno » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:16 pm

Senator Jay Rockefeller, well known hater of internet freedom, and prick, is terribly worried that 911 victims and other Americans may have been compromised by hacking.

"I am concerned that the admitted phone hacking in London by the News Corp. may have extended to 9/11 victims or other Americans. If they did, the consequences will be severe," said Rockefeller, a Democrat.


No shit. He just does not say severe "for whom?"

Key lawmaker urges US probe of News Corp hacking
News Corporation Chief Rupert Murdoch
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WASHINGTON (AFP) - A key US senator called Tuesday for a probe into whether alleged hacking by Rupert Murdoch's media empire had extended to US citizens and warned of "severe" consequences if that proved the case.

"I encourage the appropriate agencies to investigate to ensure that Americans have not had their privacy violated," Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller said in a statement.

"I am concerned that the admitted phone hacking in London by the News Corp. may have extended to 9/11 victims or other Americans. If they did, the consequences will be severe," said Rockefeller, a Democrat.

His comments came as Murdoch faced an onslaught from British lawmakers as the government backed calls for him to drop his bid for pay TV giant BSkyB and a committee summoned him to answer questions on phone hacking.

Former prime minister Gordon Brown also piled pressure on Murdoch's media empire, accusing it of hiring "criminals" to obtain his private documents and suggesting it used illegal methods to break the news of his son's illness.


Scotland Yard added to the 80-year-old tycoon's woes, accusing his newspapers of blocking their investigations into hacking at the News of the World, the beleaguered tabloid that Murdoch axed on Sunday.

"The reported hacking by News Corporation newspapers against a range of individuals -- including children -- is offensive and a serious breach of journalistic ethics. This raises serious questions about whether the company has broken US law," said Rockefeller.

The lawmaker, who chaired the US Senate's intelligence committee for years, was the first major voice in the US Congress to call for an investigation into the scandal, which has captivated Britain.

Murdoch flew to Britain Sunday to take control of the crisis and met Tuesday with News International chief executive Rebekah Brooks, who was News of the World editor at the time of some of the hacking, and other key figures.

Lawmakers took advantage of his presence to call on him, his son, News Corp. executive James Murdoch, and Brooks to appear to face questions about hacking and allegations that Murdoch papers paid police for information.

News International said it would "cooperate" with the request from the House of Commons culture, media and sport select committee to appear next week, but did not immediately confirm their attendance.

Murdoch was not the only one facing pressure from lawmakers.

Senior police officers were grilled by a committee on Tuesday about how an original probe into the News of the World in 2006, which resulted in the jailing of two people, failed to unearth a trove of further allegations.

The fresh claims, including that the tabloid hacked the voicemails of a murdered teenager and the relatives of dead soldiers, finally emerged last week and unleashed the public outrage that led to the demise of the paper.

Scotland Yard Assistant Commissioner John Yates, who decided not to reopen the investigation in 2009, apologized to the victims but blamed News International for failing to hand over key evidence.

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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:31 pm

kenoma wrote:Destruction of evidence happening now:

Why is News International Changing its Email System Now?

News International are in the midst of one of the biggest scandals in media history, with allegations it ordered the hacking of the phone and e-mail accounts of missing children, Royalty and Prime Minister’s, but it’s just a complete coincidence that the very same week that the News of the World went under that management inform their employees that a change in e-mail operating systems will curtail access to all e-mails over one year old. Well that’s the likely story being offered by Simon Greenberg, Director of Corporate Affairs at News International.

Last week, as the News of the World went into freefall, Dublin based News International staff were called in for meetings with Information Technology experts from the organisations Wapping headquarters.

The staff were told how the organisations email platform, Microsoft Outlook was changing to the free Google Mail system, staff were also informed of how they would no longer be able to access mail sent from or received on their old accounts before a certain cut off point - believed to be 12 months prior to when the change takes place.


When News Internationals Dublin office were contacted earlier this afternoon the issue was bounced across to London were just after six o’clock I managed to get through to an exasperated Simon Greenberg, Director of Corporate Affairs at News International, who declared the issue a ‘non-story’, stating it was a pan organisation switch to Google Mail and that it had ‘nothing to do with the current situation’ at News International.

When he was pressed on the issue of whether Journalists could access e-mails sent or received from their old Microsoft Outlook accounts, after the switch, he refused to comment, continually stating that it was an “organisation wide move” and that it was a “non-story” refusing to answer whether e-mail’s from the time the various accounts were created to the present day could all be accessed equally.

Mr Greensburg explained that he was a very busy man before abruptly ending our two minute chat.


Christ, kenoma, this is shameless - and it urgently requires more publicity as a matter of priority.

- Can anyone with computer knowledge less minimal than mine tell me: How easy will it be for NI to delete IRRETRIEVABLY all their journalists' emails from the last year? Is it even technically possible? And surely Microsoft are obliged to keep records for a substantial period of time, especially in the Age of Global Terror?
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:21 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:- Can anyone with computer knowledge less minimal than mine tell me: How easy will it be for NI to delete IRRETRIEVABLY all their journalists' emails from the last year? Is it even technically possible? And surely Microsoft are obliged to keep records for a substantial period of time, especially in the Age of Global Terror?
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IRRETRIEVABLY? Sandblast/ burn/ run through a very powerful magnet then shred the email servers. All software deletion methods are recoverable to some or all extent afaik
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:29 pm

gnosticheresy_2 wrote:
MacCruiskeen wrote:- Can anyone with computer knowledge less minimal than mine tell me: How easy will it be for NI to delete IRRETRIEVABLY all their journalists' emails from the last year? Is it even technically possible? And surely Microsoft are obliged to keep records for a substantial period of time, especially in the Age of Global Terror?
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IRRETRIEVABLY? Sandblast/ burn/ run through a very powerful magnet then shred the email servers. All software deletion methods are recoverable to some or all extent afaik


Thanks, gnostic. That's what I thought. And any attempts to delete or hide emails will surely count as further evidence of guilt.

This is to presume, no doubt rashly, that the governments and judiciaries (and police forces, and journalists) of the UK and Ireland are seriously interested in getting to the bottom of this cesspit.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:42 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:
gnosticheresy_2 wrote:
MacCruiskeen wrote:- Can anyone with computer knowledge less minimal than mine tell me: How easy will it be for NI to delete IRRETRIEVABLY all their journalists' emails from the last year? Is it even technically possible? And surely Microsoft are obliged to keep records for a substantial period of time, especially in the Age of Global Terror?
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IRRETRIEVABLY? Sandblast/ burn/ run through a very powerful magnet then shred the email servers. All software deletion methods are recoverable to some or all extent afaik


Thanks, gnostic. That's what I thought. And any attempts to delete or hide emails will surely count as further evidence of guilt.

This is to presume, no doubt rashly, that the governments and judiciaries (and police forces, and journalists) of the UK and Ireland are seriously interested in getting to the bottom of this cesspit.



Tom Watson, the Labour MP who, along with Chris Bryant MP, has been pushing this scandal for years (to his immense credit) raised the complicity of the intelligence services at Prime Ministers Questions today (Cameron dodged the question and it's implications + there's been fuck all about this angle in any of the coverage so far, what a surprise :roll: ) The fact that this subject was raised though is good, though whether this most significant of leads is followed up in any subsequent inquiry remains to be seen (hint: it won't be).

Doesn't mean to say that no effort will be made to recover evidence that was deliberately destroyed by NI, just that I doubt the full technical forensic abilities of the police/ intel services will be deployed to recover all the potentially damaging information.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Searcher08 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:34 pm

Bastard Murdoch launches FOXNEWSUK !

http://www.foxnewsuk.com/

Please press Ctrl-U when the site loads to see more detailed information
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:04 pm

Friend of Murdoch

Kerik, Kerik's lover Regan and Murdoch

$100M suit against Murdoch media alleges Kerik coverup


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NEW YORK — One-time publishing powerhouse Judith Regan filed a $100 million lawsuit Tuesday saying her former employers asked her to lie to federal investigators about Bernard Kerik, the recently indicted former police commissioner who was once her lover, and tried to destroy her reputation.

I all seemed so perfect! How could it possibly go wrong? You get Bernie Kerik's lover, Judith Regan, to edit a thinly veiled tell all book by OJ Simpson and get Rupert Murdoch and Fox to market it to sleaze crazed Americans. Perfect!

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