Huge explosion in Oslo

[Harvey]

"It's still here

Thanks for the directions.

I'm fine with that, but I still disagree.

I expect no less!

[82_28]

What was his playlist? Seriously, I would like to know. Is there any word on this?

[82_28]

Of course, a bunch of s####driver.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/07/482658.html

[Canadian_watcher]

What was his playlist? Seriously, I would like to know. Is there any word on this?

They're still waiting on the last bids to come in, then they'll let us know.

[barracuda]

Here you go:

"Vocal elektronika (vocal trance) but also classical music and pop. Armin van Buuren, John O'Callaghan, Marcus Shossow with vocals like Audrey Gallagher, Emma Hewitt, Sarah Howells, Sheryl Dean, Helene Bøksle, Saga etc. I also appreciate classical music. Opera: Wagner, Verdi, Mozart."

[solace]

Norway stores pull violent video games including Call of Duty
A number of Norway stores have pulled violent video games from sale - including several Call of Duty games and World of Warcraft - in the wake of the massacre carried out by Anders Behring Breivik's on July 22.


Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is one of the video games pulled from stores in Norway
According to Danish gaming website Gamer's Globe, a spokesperson for Coop Norway said: 'In light of Friday's horrific events, and out of respect for those affected, we have chosen to remove selected items from our range.'

The site says that the affected games are Call of Duty: Black Ops; CoD: Modern Warfare 2; CoD: World at War Platinum; CoD 4: Modern Warfare Classic; Homefront; Sniper: Ghost Warrior; Counter-Strike Source; and World of Warcraft.

According to Norwegian local paper Rogalands Avis, the stores have said that the removals are 'temporary', but that they will 'think twice' about stocking the games again. A spokesperson added that: 'Others are better qualified than us to point to the repercussions these games have.'

However, the Coop chain of stores in Denmark said that they had not removed any games from sale, saying in a statement that they believed 'that terrorism has been guided by motives other than computer game universes.'
According to Thinq, Norwegian entertainment store Platekompaniet has also removed certain games from sale.
Anders Behring Breivik has admitted killing 77 people on July 22 in a bomb attack on central Oslo and a shooting rampage on the island of Utoya, which he claimed was motivated by a desire to combat 'cultural Marxism' and Muslim immigration in Europe.
While it's not uncommon for video games to be retrospectively linked to large-scale acts of violence by politicians and the media, it so far not been an especially prominent element of reporting on the Norway massacre so far. However, Breivik did express his enthusiasm for certain games in the 'manifesto' he released online, even going so far as to say that he used Modern Warfare 2 as part of his 'training' activities.
What did Anders Behring Breivik actually say about video games?
In his rambling 1,500+ page racist 'manifesto' - titled 'A European Declaration of Independence' - Breivik does refer to computer games several times (just as he also notes examples of his favourite films, TV shows, and music). That's not unexpected: part of the document consists of diaries and personal Q&As, during which he refers to his cultural likes and dislikes and the entertainment he's consuming.
He notes playing BioShock 2 and Fallout: New Vegas, although he describes himself as 'generally more the fantasy RPG kind of person' - mentioning the Dragon Age series as an example - and 'not so much into first person shooters'. He criticises the Grand Theft Auto series on the grounds that, along with other cultural forces such as MTV, it 'deliberately propagates the hiphop lifestyle'.
However, the most notable game in his life appears to have been World of Warcraft. He says at one point that: 'I took a year off when I was 25 and played WoW PvE hardcore for a year.' He also mentions WoW several other times, and further suggests that claiming to have developed an addiction to WoW serves as a useful cover for your absence while planning attacks.
In what is likely to be the section most eagerly seized on by opponents of gaming, Breivik says several times that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 can be used as one part of gun training, writing: 'I see MW2 more as a part of my training-simulation than anything else. I’ve still learned to love it though and especially the multiplayer part is amazing. You can more or less completely simulate actual operations.'
However, he writes elsewhere that he doesn't consider games to be a full substitute for live marksmanship training, and says that he is only playing MW2 'casually'.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/87112 ... z1U1E34LSB

[lupercal]

The why, is where my argument fails. I simply can't see a motive.

Harvey it's very odd that you mention that because these pics, even to a rank amateur, do look ridiculous, like somebody used MS Paint to put a smiley headshot into the cop car, but as you say, why would do they that?

Well the weird thing is, I looked at a video of "Breivik" being brought into that car, in what what looked like a basement garage, then the car driving out with a gaggle of photographers clicking and flashing away, much like the DSK perp walk, but at night, and there was no actual walk. I was trying to figure out how tall he is and what kind of haircut he has, to match him with the bald shooter, but what's weird is that I couldn't get a good look at Breivik either getting into the car or driving by.

In other words, even though there's video, and the video shows a bunch of photographers who would presumably alert us if it wasn't this guy, I never actually saw his face. So I'd have to suppose it's possible that Happy Red Polo isn't the guy they put in the car, which would explain why these pics look so, well, let's say so surreal.

Soembody was in the car. We know that much. These photo's are odd. That much seemd clear to me...

But it just keeps getting more parrallel universe by the minute when he get's to wear his red sweater and have reading material (the ghost fingers are clearly visible in that shot) but also has his demands not to be photographed for mug shots summarily met!

Even oswald didn't get that luxury, see my doctored avatar photo. (And yes, I have doctored it.)

Yep somebody gets in, and in this RT vid, which is better than the one I saw before, I notice he's got Breivik's red sweater, also the blond buzz cut I thought I saw earlier, meaning he's not the tall bald shooter with the Bozo fringe, the only actual shooter photo that's been released:


Uploaded by RussiaToday on Jul 25, 2011

But is this Mr Happy? That I can't be sure of. Plus in the last frames it looks like he's got a gag over his mouth.

p.s. not as many photographers as I thought. In fact just a few plus some guards.

p.p.s. best view of Breivik is around 1:42. Oddly enough the guy next to him, who also has a blond buzz cut, looks like Timothy McVeigh, and Breivik looks like Oswald.

[LilyPatToo]

That photo from the island did make him look bald, but he has very light hair and it looked to me as though the sunlight hitting the back of his head caused an overexposed spot in that picture. If his hair is thin on top in the back, the light would have reflected from his (possibly sweaty, gleaming) fair-complected scalp too.

But I have no explanation for the faked look of those photos of him in custody inside the SUV. Perhaps it's a trick of lighting? Multiple, spaced camera flashes hitting him simultaneously? He looks pasted in, but if Photoshop experts say they don't see the tell-tale artifacts, then I (a very casual user of the software) tend to believe them.

LilyPat

[barracuda]

he's not the tall bald shooter with the Bozo fringe, the only actual shooter photo that's been released:

In that video, Breivik quite definitely is showing typical back-of-the-head male pattern baldness when he leans over to get in the car. Which is not surprising, because all the later pics of him such as the freemason shot look to have the same baldness apparent.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

Breivik IS going bald. Even his self-chosen glamour pics can't hide that, except the jaw-length hair ones obviously (extensions?). He's receding, at the very least. Aren't we all, though?

It's a pretty common trait among spree-killers that they're excessively worried, to the point of obsession, by the onset of baldness, for what that's worth. They seem to believe it will turn them into a universal object of scorn and mockery despite the fact (in reality) hardly anyone notices or cares. Or it used to be a common trait, back when most spree-killers were men just entering into early middle-age.

Now that they're of all ages down to the very early teens it doesn't seem so universal.








I think, despite the apparent differences of quality/resolution in these pictures, and the fact that the third one seems to have had it's contrast and brightness levels ramped up significantly, that they are all of the same guy, in the same area. You can see that the rocks nearby are (EDIT: look) the same/similar, anyway.

The question is, who is the guy at around 1.40 onwards in this clip? He is running down, behind someone else, towards the police/Delta team, who are huddled behind the white van at the dock. Whoever made the video has circled him as if he is significant, and he looks to be wearing white sneakers like Breivik in the other shots, but he also looks a lot smaller and his hair looks a lot darker.

Of course, the video quality is terrible, as are the pics. It could be a survivor running down to the police, and whoever made the video has circled him by mistake. If it's supposed to be Breivik then he's in by far the wrong place according to witnesses who saw him after his arrest, and also the wrong size/shape, and also apparently running free.

Like I say, at around 1.40:

[barracuda]

The first time I saw that video, the runner was identified as a fleeing survivor.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

You're right, there's another much clearer and slower version where both people running down to the police are identified as survivors in the notes, and more obviously treated as such by the cops. Somebody added the still frame of the circled runner to the first vid for reasons of their own, whatever they may be. I 'gin to grow a-weary of the sun.

[lupercal]

^ shooters making their getaway into the cop van? They're wearing dark suits like the cops and most camp survivors are in summer outfits, shorts and bathing suits. Could the stripes be velcro they pulled off and put in their pockets?



The two shooter Breiviks look different. The bald guy is huge and needs a haircut; the other guy is medium height and looks more trim, like the Breivik in the van, and their white stripes are different. But they're in the same spot it looks like:





Still no sign of Emma Martinovic's "police cap on his head." Hard to make out any weapons too. New pic:

[lupercal]

Anders Behring Breivik, who has confessed to the twin attacks in Norway on July 22, claims he called police during the massacre of 69 people on the island of Utoeya, his lawyer has told Norwegian public broadcaster NRK.

This number reminds me of the concept of "twinning". Breivik's blonde hair and resemblance to Assange eerily sticks in my mind...still. People don't have to be identical twins from birth to be twinned in the occult do they?

You see a lot of this in dates.

JFK was killed on 11/22. MLK on 4/4. RFK was shot at the tail end of 6/5 but died on 6/6. Reagan was shot on 3/30

Princess Diana cars car struck the 13th pillar minutes after midnight on the 31st of august(13/31, mirror)

The ultimate twinning is of course the male and female north and south twin towers. Struck from the north first, just like they dun's like it.

"Twin towers," yeah that struck me when I heard "twin attacks." Strange.

[Peachtree Pam]

Roundup from VG.no 4 August 2011:

Breivik nekter å si hvem som skal ha hjulpet ham
Breivik refuses to say who has helped him

Interview with Mr Lippestad, Breivik's lawyer.

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslo ... d=10089268

Breivik was questioned for 10 hours yesterday with pauses now and then. He was asked several times about who has helped him with this operation. He has refused to answer this until his demands are met: government, military and king resign and withdraw, with a central role in the new structure of Norway given to Breivik.

Breivik's lawyer, Mr Lippestad, has said that Breivik is curious as to how many he has killed or wounded. To date he has received no answer to this question. Lippestad says that Breivik has travelled to over 20 countries to get equipment for his terror attack. He has met people on these trips who have helped him. Lippestad says that Breivik got most of the equipment from outside Norway.

Lippestad said that Breivik has difficulty living in isolation. Lippestad was asked if this showed that Breivik is beginning to understand the gravity of his situation. Lippestad said there was no sign of that. He said that Breivik acted "professionally", was not aggressive, but showed little emotion.

He said that Breivik tried to excercise a little in his cell, but this was difficult without exercise equipment.