"Molestation on demand" ring shut down

by **professorpan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:16 pm

<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/15/childporn.arrests/index.html">www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/1...index.html</a>

by **chiggerbit** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:50 pm

One of the seven molestation victims was younger than 18 months, Life in prison is too good for that type of crime. Send them to Gitmo!

by **thoughtographer** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:11 am

This is repugnant, but will no doubt assist future efforts to sway public opinion when it comes time to push laws that will help the government restrict, censor and monitor the Internet.

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:14 am

As in their efforts to subpoena Google's records, which is probably why they timed the bust for now. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 3/15/06 9:16 pm

by **professorpan** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:44 am

And it takes some heat off Gonzalez, the apologist for illegal wiretapping. How convenient.

by **OnoI812** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:03 am

Why does this seem like the perfect timing for this perfect honeypot style bust. I read on another board, that over 35000 were survielled , just .06 of those were arrested, and there were more than 40 suicides related to the many falsely accused and outright victims of identity theft associated with the credit cards involved in the dragnet. How likely is it , this whole operation was staged by the PTB themselves? <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/03/14/landslide-porn060314.html">www.cbc.ca/story/world/na...60314.html</a> audio realplayer <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/clips/rm-audio/current_1porn060314.rm">www.cbc.ca/clips/rm-audio...n060314.rm</a> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=onoi812>OnoI812</A> at: 3/15/06 10:11 pm

by **professorpan** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:55 am

I doubt it was staged. I did a quick search on one of the alleged perps named in the CNN article. A guy with his name was trolling adoption boards looking to "adopt a boy or girl of any age." <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/adoptionchoice/message/24?viscount=100">groups.yahoo.com/group/ad...scount=100</a> There's also a woman named in the investigation, which is unusual. From what I can gather, they were using a chat/file distribution system called WINMX. Creepy.

by **OnoI812** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:18 am

Sure there definetly were legitimate freaks caught up. But where it gets fuzzy is, who was raping the children then running those sites to catch the freaks? did you read the CBC link?

by **hmm** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:01 pm

Maybe the timing is convenient for Gonzales but this is no honeypot. how can you say this is staged without a shred of evidence for that extraordinary claim? <a href="http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/cnspolitics/story.html?id=ac1b905c-f401-44e0-9b87-ab8b83d22182">www.canada.com/national/n...8b83d22182</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>TORONTO - What started a year ago with an Edmonton woman overhearing a disturbing conversation between two children ended yesterday with the Attorney-General of the United States announcing the dismantling of a large, highly organized child porn ring that swapped pictures and live video of children being sexually abused and raped. ~snip~ For nearly two months -- while the man was held in jail -- police pretended to be him, the man who had earned such trust within the group that he had gained the status of administrator, a position that gave him special access, officials said. "We took over his account," said Detective-Constable Paul Krawczyk, with the Toronto police's Child Exploitation Unit. "It allowed us to trace everybody in the chat room because he was so trusted," he said. But a year before that investigative coup, good fortune and good citizenry started police on a year-long journey into the dark world of abuse and obscenity. Two Edmonton children, aged nine and five, a boy and a girl, were talking about a secret. "The statements they were making amounted to them talking about their sexual abuse. It wasn't a lot but someone heard," said Detective Randy Wickins, with Edmonton police's Internet Child Exploitation Unit. That woman alerted authorities in May, 2005.<hr></blockquote>

by **hmm** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:43 pm

googling "Humble Duchess" brings up: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Humble Duchess' Mailbox Humble Duchess' Mailbox. new Topic · new Poll ... Alfred's Mailbox, Gandalf's Mailbox, Cryptic's Mailbox, Bio's Mailbox, Humble Duchess' Mailbox, Trash Can ... p209.ezboard.com/fthehomedepotfrm42 - 23k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages<hr></blockquote> RI is on p216.ezboard.com only 7 numbers/servers away. <a href="http://p209.ezboard.com/bthehomedepot">p209.ezboard.com/bthehomedepot</a> had these admins with their own forum: Humble Duchess' Mailbox Wolfman's Mailbox Deranged Weasel's Office Bio's Mailbox Nicknack's Mailbox Alfred's Mailbox Gandalf's Mailbox Blue Dragon's Mailbox Scared Shitless' Mailbox Cryptic's Mailbox clicking on humble duchess's mailbox brings up: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Welcome WinMX users! Please sign in at the 'Who Goes There' forum.<hr></blockquote> and among the html code: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>{ // optional username to add to who's online var addUser = "Some Admin User"; var rotateUsers = "Youth Trader|Dirk Diggler|Crusty Admin|Loli Fetish"<hr></blockquote> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>{ replaceWhat = Array("visitor", "in the last 15 minutes", "Member", "Guest", "Anonymous"<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> ; replaceWith = Array("Perv", "Trading", "Member", "Lurker", "Rapist")<hr></blockquote> the wayback machine has some stuff too: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://p209.ezboard.com/bthehomedepot">web.archive.org/web/*/htt...ehomedepot</a> <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20050215235404/http://p209.ezboard.com/bthehomedepot">web.archive.org/web/20050...ehomedepot</a> these pages show they had 34 members and something like 6500 posts. most of the forums are password protected but one can see topiclists for the open ones on the wayback machine.

by **professorpan** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:16 pm

I'm gonna spend a little time digging into this myself. Seems these folks left a lot of breadcrumb trails.

by **hmm** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:17 pm

There is quite a bit of information on who was raping those children and running those sites if you look. The articles also provide information on how the police acted. <a href="http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/cnspolitics/story.html?id=ac1b905c-f401-44e0-9b87-ab8b83d22182">www.canada.com/national/n...8b83d22182</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>One video was allegedly sent live from a man in Illinois to a man in Edmonton, who then reciprocated with a video of himself with four minors. ~snip~ Police raided the home of an Edmonton man and inside they found thousands of images and videos of child abuse, some made by the man of those children. The man has since been sentenced to 14 years in jail for sexually abusing his step-children and their friends. ~snip~ U.S. authorities have identified seven child victims, some of whom have been taken into protective custody. The two children in Edmonton who started the probe have also been taken into protective custody. The youngest victim appearing in the pictures and movies was 18 months old.<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://www.theleafchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060316/NEWS01/603160332/1002">www.theleafchronicle.com/...60332/1002</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Area man named in Internet porn ring Royal Raymond Weller one of 27 in world charged in illegal chat room By CHANTAL ESCOTO The Leaf-Chronicle Neighbors had no idea "G.O.D." lived in their Madison Street apartment complex or that he was connected with an international child pornography ring. Royal Raymond Weller, 49, who lived in Hunter Chase Apartments, 1897 Madison St., Apt. No. E73, had a user name of "G.O.D." for the online child pornography chat room he operated from his apartment. ~snip~ According to an affidavit filed by the Department of Justice, Weller was host or owner of the Internet chat room known as "Kiddiepics & Kiddievids." The chat room's purpose was to act as a broker between others who wanted to trade child pornography. He operated through numerous levels of deceptions to evade authorities. ~snip~ Shirley Grant who lives across from Weller, an appliance repair man, said she never suspected he would be involved in child porn since he was quiet and kept to himself. She thought it odd, however, when she happened to look into his apartment one day and saw nothing but a computer on the floor. "He didn't have any furniture," said Grant, a corrections officer who works for the state in Nashville. "I thought to myself, this guy doesn't have anything, but how can he afford a brand new Dell computer? I had no idea what he'd done until I heard it on the news and I said, 'Oh my God, that's my apartment building!'"<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/World/2006/03/16/1490781-sun.html">www.edmontonsun.com/News/...1-sun.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Pervert's family kept kids away Carl Treleaven's mom says she did her best to keep her son away from little children because of his "sickness." But she said the family never thought he could be going online to satisfy the urges he'd had for decades. "We all were careful. We didn't want to tempt him to go back to it. But we didn't think about the Internet," said 78-year-old Alberta Treleaven yesterday. ~snip~ Carl Treleaven, 49, pleaded guilty last month to distributing child porn. He was a key administrator in the online child porn chatroom Kiddypics & Kiddyvids. ~snip~ Treleaven has two previous convictions on his record for molesting little girls in the 1970s. Alberta said the family knew her son had an "illness." She said her son received treatment for his sexual attraction to young children after the previous convictions, which came in 1986 and 1993.<hr></blockquote> this also came up on google news regarding Carl Treleaven: <a href="http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2006/03/01/1467498-sun.html">www.edmontonsun.com/News/...8-sun.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Day-care parents shocked Employee's husband pleaded guilty to child-porn charges By BROOKES MERRITT AND ELIZA BARLOW, EDMONTON SUN A local man who pleaded guilty to numerous child-porn charges is married to an employee of an Ottewell neighbourhood daycare centre. <hr></blockquote> This was the guy previously identified in this thread as having sought information on adopting a child: <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-kidporn16.html">www.suntimes.com/output/n...orn16.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Annoreno, also known by his screen name "Acidburn," is accused of filming himself molesting an 18-month-old and streaming it live over the chatroom. A law enforcement source said Annoreno is suspected of molesting his own child. The Illinois Department of Children and Family Services began investigating Annoreno on Jan. 9 and removed his 22-month-old daughter from his custody, spokeswoman Diane Jackson said. A relative has temporary custody of the child. ~snip~ Annoreno's lawyer, Michael Falconer, said that he doesn't believe the feds recovered a video showing Annoreno molesting a child and that he thinks those charges are based on accounts given by a witness. Falconer said his client is a "computer whiz" but is an immature 29 "going on 12" and lives with his parents. He said Annoreno's parents believe their son was used by someone else in the scheme. <hr></blockquote>

by **hmm** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:31 pm

along with "HumbleDuchess" Lisa A. Winebrenner, 36, of Osceola, Iowa there was also this arrest: <a href="http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/politics/14107685.htm">www.belleville.com/mld/be...107685.htm</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Billy Joe Bowser, 33, and his wife, Melissa Bowser, 26, were charged Tuesday with possession and transportation of child pornography<hr></blockquote> some of the screen names identified in the cnn piece seem quite unique, but i am a bit busy atm... <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/15/childporn.arrests/index.html">www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/1...index.html</a> Most of the 27 people named in the indictments are identified only by their screen names: •G.O.D. of Clarksville, Tennessee •Acidburn of Bartlett, Illinois •Big_Daddy619 of Edmonton, Alberta •ax9572 of London, England •Entity of Manchester, England •Yyydbh5182 of North Aurora, Illinois •Behrplus_925 of Aurora, Illinois •Darkhorse of Kalamazoo, Michigan •Wharfrat of Reno, Nevada •CuLeX of Milton, Florida •A_School_Teacher of Oakfield, New York •Lord_Newbie of Charlotte, North Carolina •Alex1 of Sebring, Florida •Nemo of Phoenix, Arizona •BlueDragon of Ashgrove, Australia •Sir_CP of Victoria, Australia •DarcBiocode of Stafford, Australia •LoneWolf_95 of Brandon, Manitoba •Henry40Babe of Kingston, Ontario •Lumberjack of Woodbridge, Ontario •10_boy_canada of Selkirk, Manitoba •Fydei of Longueuil, Quebec •Msg4Homemade of Courtenay, British Columbia •LordVader of Prince Georgia, British Columbia •Msg2Trade of Toronto, Ontario •HumbleDuchess of Osceola, Iowa •Geograns of Kapolei, Hawaii

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:57 pm

I just tried to do a google on "Loli Fetish" to see what it was. Man, I can't even post the links here at RI, for fear of getting this board disappeared.

by **hmm** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:40 pm

This piece links up a few more of the (winmx?) screennames to real names: <a href="http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=3997742">abclocal.go.com/ktrk/stor...id=3997742</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> "CuLeX," later identified as Jason Wilson, of Milton, Fla., who was arrested and charged with possession of child pornography in a criminal complaint in the Northern District of Florida; "Wharfrat," later identified as Michael Burns, of Reno, Nev., who was arrested and charged with possession of child pornography in the District of Nevada; "Lord Newbie," later identified as Kenneth Fisher, of Charlotte, N.C., who was arrested on state charges in North Carolina; "Fydei," later identified as Marcel Deslauriers, of Longueuil, Quebec, who was arrested and charged in Canada<hr></blockquote>

"Molestation on demand" ring shut down

"Molestation on demand" ring shut down

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Re: in no way was this a honeypot style bust

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Good digging, hmm

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