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Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby Jeff » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:08 pm

The living end of limited hangouts?

An Explosive New 9/11 Charge

In a new documentary, ex-national security aide Richard Clarke suggests the CIA tried to recruit 9/11 hijackers—then covered it up. Philip Shenon on George Tenet’s denial.

Aug 11, 2011 8:47 AM EDT

With the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks only a month away, former CIA Director George Tenet and two former top aides are fighting back hard against allegations that they engaged in a massive cover-up in 2000 and 2001 to hide intelligence from the White House and the FBI that might have prevented the attacks.

The source of the explosive, unproved allegations is a man who once considered Tenet a close friend: former White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, who makes the charges against Tenet and the CIA in an interview for a radio documentary timed to the 10th anniversary next month. Portions of the Clarke interview were made available to The Daily Beast by the producers of the documentary.

n the interview for the documentary, Clarke offers an incendiary theory that, if true, would rewrite the history of the 9/11 attacks, suggesting that the CIA intentionally withheld information from the White House and FBI in 2000 and 2001 that two Saudi-born terrorists were on U.S. soil – terrorists who went on to become suicide hijackers on 9/11.

Clarke speculates – and readily admits he cannot prove -- that the CIA withheld the information because the agency had been trying to recruit the terrorists, while they were living in southern California under their own names, to work as CIA agents inside Al Qaeda. After the recruitment effort went sour, senior CIA officers continued to withhold the information from the White House for fear they would be accused of “malfeasance and misfeasance,” Clarke suggests.

Clarke said that if his theory is correct, Tenet and others would never admit to the truth today “even if you waterboarded them.”

Clarke’s theory addresses a central, enduring mystery about the 9/11 attacks – why the CIA failed for so long to tell the White House and senior officials at the FBI that the agency was aware that two Al Qaeda terrorists had arrived in the United States in January 2000, just days after attending a terrorist summit meeting in Malaysia that the CIA had secretly monitored.

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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby Jeff » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:28 pm

IMO, this is fascinating. This is where Clarke has to go to explain incompetence, but it's a less plausible narrative than complicity. A speculated failure to recruit 9/11 hijackers in 2000 doesn't explain the institutional incuriosity towards them in 2001. (Like, say, denial of warrant requests that were so bizarre agents joked there must be an al Qaeda mole in the FBI.)
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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby dqueue » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:49 pm

Is it a developing meme, the incurious nature of the intelligence agencies? I ask, because Kevin Fenton at Boiling Frogs Post (Sibel Edmonds' site) has a post this week regarding the Zacarias Moussaoui trial. He names names of individuals potentially responsible within the FBI. So, Richard Clarke's revelation strikes me as curious, such that he shifts blame to the CIA (specifically regarding information withheld from FBI).

There were four key figures who dealt with the case at FBI headquarters: Rita Flack, an intelligence operations specialist at the FBI’s Radical Fundamentalist Unit (RFU); Michael Maltbie, a supervisory special agent with the RFU; their unit chief Dave Frasca; and Tom Wilshire, a CIA officer on loan to FBI headquarters. Wilshire was either a consultant to Michael Rolince, head of the FBI’s International Terrorism Operations Section, or his deputy. Wilshire was also the key figure in the CIA’s withholding of information about Almihdhar and Alhazmi from the bureau.

These four people somehow managed to convince themselves that the Moussaoui case was a minor matter that deserved little attention and that the Minneapolis agents were, in Flack’s words, “maniacs.” Although very little is known about Wilshire’s involvement in the case, an e-mail used as evidence at the trial shows he shared this attitude; on August 24 he e-mailed his three colleagues asking for the latest on the “Minneapolis Airplane IV crowd,” although it is unclear whether this was a reference to Moussaoui and an associate or the Minneapolis field office.
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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:51 pm

FASCINATING

RICHARD CLARKE WAS NOT TOLD ABOUT ABLE DANGER
Posted by seemslikeadream on Wed Sep-21-05 10:43 AM

So the responsibility for stopping DIA program Able Danger, which had Identified Atta and 3 other hijackers and linked them to 56 other al-Queda terrorists overseas, has been laid at the feet of Bill Clinton--except he and Richard Clarke were never told about it at all.

That's right. Bill Clinton was never told about Able Danger and the ID of Atta because Richard Clarke was never told about AD. How do I know? He never wrote about it in his book, nor did he testify about it's existence before the 9-11 Commission!

You see Richard Clarke was known for being obsessed with Osama Bin Laden and HE was the guy the neo-con moles did not want to find out about Atta and the gang. Schoomaker and the neo-cons knew telling the FBI would inform Clarke and then Mr. Laser Beam himself, President of the United State William Jefferson Clinton, would have gotten involved--and the Pearl Harbor-type attack would never take place (the neo-cons talked about the need for a Pearl Harbor-type attack before the PNAC Plan would be accepted by the American people--so when one presented itself, they let it happen).
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678


Was Able Danger Shut Down After It Detected Condi-PRC Spy Ring?

Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 10:18 AM by leveymg
DID DOD SHUT DOWN ABLE DANGER AFTER IT DETECTED CONDI’S CONNECTION WITH A PRC SPY RING?

Copyright 2005, Mark G. Levey

According to official accounts, the Pentagon shut the Able Danger project down several months after the Bush Administration took power in 2001. There is now a report that the Defense Intelligence Agency was using the project's data-mining technology to investigate other national security threats in addition to al-Qaeda cells detected inside the U.S.. The program may have revealed details of suspected espionage that got too close to the White House, leading to the termination of the program.

Laura Rozen, who has been closely tracking the Able Danger story, says in her War and Piece.com. blog on Aug. 27:http://www.warandpiece.com /

"This New York Post report on Able Danger is the most revealing so far. I had heard as well that Able Danger was shut down after it submitted papers for its budget review that included a huge China analysis that had the Pentagon review general scratching his head. But I had not heard about the Condoleezza Rice stuff, which would go a long way to explaining why Able Danger may have been shut down:"

"The private contractors working for the counter-terrorism unit Able Danger lost their jobs in May 2000. The firings following a series of analyses that Pentagon lawyers feared were dangerously close to violating laws banning the military from spying on Americans, sources said.

"The Pentagon canceled its contract with the private firm shortly after the analysts — who were working on identifying al Qaeda operatives — produced a particularly controversial chart on proliferation of sensitive technology to China, the sources said.

"Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, the veteran Army officer who was the Defense Intelligence Agency liaison to Able Danger, told The Post China "had something to do" with the decision to restructure Able Danger.

"Sources said the private contractors, using sophisticated computer software that sifts through massive amounts of raw data to establish patterns, came up with a chart of Chinese strategic and business connections in the U.S.

"The program wrongly tagged Rice, who at the time was an adviser to then-candidate George W. Bush, and former Defense Secretary William Perry by linking their associations at Stanford, along with their contacts with Chinese leaders, sources said.

"The program also spat out scores of names of other former government officials."

Rozen asks,"So Able Danger's data mining results seemed more all over the board, a kind of tinfoil hat producing adventure better left to freepsters and google?"

While Rozen seems to dismiss the suggestion that Condi was actually involved in any wrongdoing with the Chinese, the subject of PRC espionage and diplomatic efforts to obtain US dual-use technologies has long been a source of great concern at the Pentagon.

I am also skeptical that AD was shut down for spying on Condi's suspected involvement with Chinese espionage. Not because I trust Condi, but because the events referred to in The NY Post article above happened years before AD was reported to have started operating. Still, it shouldn't be dismissed entirely out of hand.

Here's an interesting early 2001 article that goes into the story - I'm not vouching for its sources or conclusions, but it gives one some idea about the issue that might have been bugging Pentagon counterintelligence about Condi.


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/1/23/2031 ...

The Chinese Army Spy and Condoleezza Rice
Charles R. Smith
Wednesday, Jan. 24, 2001

Condoleezza Rice, national security adviser to President Bush, has recently granted an interview to virtually every reporter but me. Perhaps it is because I keep asking her questions about the Chinese spy in her past.
Rice has impeccable credentials. She worked for the elder George Bush in the White House, handling Russian issues. She is a distinguished fellow at the Hoover Institution and former provost of Stanford University. Rice is very close to former Clinton Secretary of Defense William Perry. Rice worked with Perry and the Clinton administration during her term at Stanford. The Clinton White House once mentioned her as being on the short list for secretary of state.

Yet it is her years at Stanford working with Perry that have rendered Rice silent. While working at Stanford, she became involved in the most successful Chinese army penetration of the Clinton Defense Department. She will not answer questions about her relationship with Chinese spy Hua Di.

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At initial glance, the notion that Able Danger was shut down for probing Condi's suspected involvement with Chinese intelligence in the mid-1990s doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The events involving Condi and the Chinese military's acquisition of fiber optics network happened years before the AD program was said to have started. All of this is coming out from sources that are spinning, er, to the right of comfort zone for me. But, if there is anything to this story, it raises several possibilities, all of which may reveal aspects of Angel Danger that were not previously understood:

1) Was the AD project used to look backward at events that occurred years earlier? One of the reasons Philip Zelikow, the 9/11 Commission Staff Director gave for ignoring Able Danger was that the project had collected data about Moh. Atta in 1999, months before it was thought Atta first came to the attention of the US Government -- a dubious proposition. Did DoD analysts have information that predated Atta's visa application in May 2000?

2) This information about attention to Condi's activities in the 1990s raises another posibility. Did the program really got started years before has been admitted publicly, perhaps as early as the mid-1990s?

3) Did the DIA seriously suspect that high officials in the Bush and Clinton Administrations were involved in Chinese espionage?

4) Or, was AD being used as part of a unauthorized DoD operation to investigate a wide variety of contacts by prominent American figures with foreign powers?

Finally, 5) Is all this being raised now by the GOP as a way of threatening the Democrats not to push too hard to reveal what Able Danger learned about the 9/11 hijackers before it was shut down by the Bush Administration in 2001? The stuff about China seems to be a veiled threat against former Clinton Administration officials who might be embarrassed if the public were to now see what military intelligence has learned about how China employed dual-use technologies shared during the 1990s. Is this Wen Ho Lee, and the Buddhist Temple, revisited?

All or any of the above possibilities, if they have any foundation, raises a lot of interesting questions that need to be followed-up.

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There is another Pentagon information program in the news. US Counterintelligence is battling a Chinese information mining program,dubbed Titan Rain. China, while a major trade and debt partner, has continued to grow as a perceived threat to US military dominance. TIME Magazine reports in its current issue that the US is engaged in a sort of escalating secret war with China for control over global information networks, and the Pentagon is actively monitoring and countering Chinese efforts to pentrate and harvest civilian and classified databases:http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,109896...

In recent years, the counterintelligence community has grown increasingly anxious that Chinese spies are poking into all sorts of American technology to compete with the U.S. But tracking virtual enemies presents a different kind of challenge to U.S. spy hunters. Foreign hackers invade a secure network with a flick of a wrist, but if the feds want to track them back and shut them down, they have to go through a cumbersome authorization process that can be as tough as sending covert agents into foreign lands. Adding in extreme sensitivity to anything involving possible Chinese espionage--remember the debacle over alleged Los Alamos spy Wen Ho Lee?--and the fear of igniting an international incident, it's not surprising the U.S. has found it difficult and delicate to crack these cases.

In Washington, officials are tight-lipped about Titan Rain, insisting all details of the case are classified. But high-level officials at three agencies told TIME the penetration is considered serious. A federal law-enforcement official familiar with the investigation says the FBI is "aggressively" pursuing the possibility that the Chinese government is behind the attacks. Yet they all caution that they don't yet know whether the spying is official, a private-sector job or the work of many independent, unrelated hands. The law-enforcement source says China has not been cooperating with U.S. investigations of Titan Rain. China's State Council Information Office, speaking for the government, told TIME the charges about cyberspying and Titan Rain are "totally groundless, irresponsible and unworthy of refute."

Despite the official U.S. silence, several government analysts who protect the networks at military, nuclear-lab and defense- contractor facilities tell TIME that Titan Rain is thought to rank among the most pervasive cyberespionage threats that U.S. computer networks have ever faced. TIME has obtained documents showing that since 2003, the hackers, eager to access American know-how, have compromised secure networks ranging from the Redstone Arsenal military base to NASA to the World Bank. In one case, the hackers stole flight-planning software from the Army. So far, the files they have vacuumed up are not classified secrets, but many are sensitive and subject to strict export-control laws, which means they are strategically important enough to require U.S. government licenses for foreign use.

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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:00 pm

Clarke speculates – and readily admits he cannot prove


Clarke’s theory


The "former White House counterterrorism czar" Richard Clarke cannot easily be derided as a "conspiracy theorist", and it's essentially his word against Tenet's. This would appear to place the powerworshipping mass media in a somewhat awkward position. But they're nothing if not adaptable.

Jeff wrote:The living end of limited hangouts?


Is such a thing even necessary any more? In 2011, I'm not sure that plausible deniability matters very much to them.

About five years back, JackRiddler wrote a brilliant satirical news report about Dick Cheney appearing on national TV, freely admitting to having planned & supervised the 9/11 attacks, and still managing to get away with it effortlessly. The story ends with him being universally applauded in the corporate media for his courage, foresight and patriotism. (I think he gets a Congressional Medal of Honor.) Today, in post-democratic post-reality, Jack's scenario looks less like satire and more like kitchen-sink realism.

The producers, John Duffy and Ray Nowosielski, had previously made a well-reviewed film documentary, "Press for Truth," (http://www.911pressfortruth.com), on the struggle of a group of 9/11 victims' families to force the government to investigate the attacks.


Those are good credentials.

And I don't want to pour cold water on that statement by Clarke. It's certainly a very interesting development.
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Postby 2012 Countdown » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:04 pm

Damn, look at THAT. The mother of all limited hangouts.
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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:44 pm

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Actually, I think exposure of the Blee's nest is one strand out of many, isolated to prevent the most compelling big picture, which must include Ali Mohamed, the recruitment and surveillance evidence of the Hamburg/Brooklyn cell, Able Danger and much more. But it's a step.

This is what you meant, MacC. It was also sort of my farewell to the 9/11 truth movement as it had by then become, written in October 2006:

Cheney Says He Masterminded 9/11, But the Spinners Refuse to Be Spun

By John J. Jenerik
TMNS Exclusive

Monday, October 16, 2006

NEW YORK: Their opinions may differ, but American politicians and pundits of all persuasions seem united in their resolve not to let Dick Cheney's 9/11 confession turn their world upside down.

Their troubles began when Mr. Cheney extolled his own role as a "primary architect of the events of September 11, 2001" last Tuesday at a White House press conference. The Republican vice-president surprised reporters with the revelation that the air attacks on New York and Washington were orchestrated by "a network of experienced covert operatives" under his command.

In Mr. Cheney's words, this "shadow executive" subverted a "Red Team" participating in US military maneuvers. "They used the routine wargames scheduled for September 11th as the cover for a 'real-world' attack," Mr. Cheney said. "I can't say much more than that because as you can guess, we did our best to keep me out of the loop."

"By the time the day arrived, all I really had to do from the bunker downstairs was to make sure there was no interference from the genius at the top," Mr. Cheney said, in an apparent reference to President George W. Bush.

Chuckling, Cheney added: "The boys in the field were magnificent."

A second team under separate command had been assigned to assure the destruction of the World Trade Center itself, Mr. Cheney said.

The intent of the action was to blame the resulting carnage on the "false flag" of the shadowy al-Qaeda network, itself mostly a construct of Western and allied intelligence services, according to Mr. Cheney. "Our motive was to frighten Americans into supporting a long-planned global war of aggression, which we saw as necessary given geopolitical developments. We also wanted to remove all limits on executive power at home," he said.

"The Islamic fundamentalists made for irresistible patsies, really straight out of central casting."

Mr. Cheney then directly addressed the assembled press corps: "We knew the operation would leave a lot of loose ends, but we relied on you guys in the media to ignore those and patch up a telegenic narrative.

"You came through, and the nation thanks you for it."

Refusing further questions, Mr. Cheney announced he was returning to his underground complex in Pennsylvania, where he intends "to oversee the next steps in the program we initiated on 9/11."

Opposition Delivers Swift Riposte

With mid-term elections just three weeks away, Democratic leaders chose to show restraint. Hillary Clinton and Charles Schumer, speaking at a Capitol Hill press conference Wednesday, avoided making direct references to Mr. Cheney. Announcing a proposal to beef up Homeland Security spending, the Democratic senators from New York urged the administration to be "more effective in fighting the common enemy."

"All this should finally spur the White House to hurry up and prosecute a more focused and vigorous war on terror," Ms. Clinton said. "9/11 was a terrible tragedy for so many hard-working, ordinary people who lost their loved ones in the great state of New York. They don't need to have those memories dredged up again by those who have so clearly proven their incompetence elsewhere, from Iraq to New Orleans. Our homeland needs better protection now."

"This is no time to dwell on the past," said Senator Joe Biden of Delaware, echoing a broad consensus of his colleagues in the Democratic Party.

Democracy Vibrant As Ever, as Debate Among Sophists Proves

Intellectuals on the right greeted the news with a touch of realism. "9/11 was a bold, geopolitically savvy move, and I can't wait to see what's coming next," William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century said in an appearance on FOXNEWS.

"To save America, our leaders knew they had to go large," Kristol added. "Without 9/11, would people in this country have understood the threat in time? I have no doubt that history will judge the vice-president as a man of imposing foresight and courage."

On the left, many directly questioned the truth of Mr. Cheney's confession.

"That's just not how the intelligence world works," said David Corn of The Nation magazine. "It's ridiculous to see Cheney, who has no formal command over the US military, as some kind of James Bond villain who could pull off an attack on that scale all by himself. He's just a forgotten old man holed up in a cave somewhere, and now he's reaching for the political Viagra."

Chip Berlet, a leading critic of the "paranoid corrosion" of American politics, stated that "Cheney is a right-wing conspiracy theorist who has lied many times in the past. He lied about weapons of mass destruction and the 9/11 link to Iraq. Why should progressives trust him when he claims something even more outrageous?"

The moderators of DemocraticUnderground.com, a popular, ultra-liberal message board, announced the site would maintain its policy of transferring all threads linking to news of Mr. Cheney's confession to a specialized forum devoted to 9/11-related issues, called the "Conspiracy Dungeon" by many of the members.

A website that specializes in debunking urban legends published a page linking to several videos, allegedly of Osama Bin Ladin, in which the al-Qaeda leader describes orchestrating the 9/11 attacks. "Bin Ladin confessed to this crime almost five years ago," said Barbara Mikkelson, editor of Snopes.com. "Cheney's belated jump on the bandwagon changes nothing about that."

The heavyweights of punditry devoted little attention to an issue they privately characterized as "old news."

"Everyone from Bangalore to Silicon Valley knew 9/11 was an inside job," according to Thomas Friedman of the New York Times, who said he had not considered mentioning the matter in his column. "Why chew up crucial mental RAM about it now, when Korea and Iran are on a horse that's gone nuclear, and shiny red Ipods are ka-zapping that news to all five corners of the flat world, a hundred Google-times faster than before? Gosh, do you know how big a hundred Google-times is? It's big!"

Syndicated columnist Maureen Dowd discerned a pattern of fear-mongering by the administration. "Just when we as a nation had grown comfortable with the idea of an omnipresent, shadowy foreign enemy never resting in its determination to kill us all suddenly, anywhere and by any means, Boss Cheney has to go and tell us the real enemy is inside our own government," Ms. Dowd wrote. "All he ever does is raise new specters to keep us frightened."

Smelly Eccentrics Provide for Additional Rustic Color

Even 9/11 conspiracy buffs sought to downplay the news, with many noting that Mr. Cheney had said nothing they have not already claimed for years.

"We were the first site to prove definitively that the government orchestrated 9/11, back on the afternoon of September 12th," said Darrin Smart of MacrameFuture.com (formerly TheReallySmart911Website.org). "In the meantime, we have moved on to more pressing issues, like sustainable culture to overcome the imminent resource Apocalypse."

"Cheney's confirmation is welcome, but it's late and off-point," Mr. Smart said.

Other, more radical conspiracy theorists characterized Mr. Cheney's confession of orchestrating 9/11 on behalf of a group of moneyed imperialists and Bush administration business cronies as "a limited hangout" - a partial revelation of apparently damaging information, in reality designed to cover up the role of yet darker and more powerful forces behind the scenes.

"Cheney is just another LIHOP gatekeeper. This is a cover-up," said Frederico Head. As the spokesperson of DestroyAllGatekeepers.net, Mr. Head leads a fast-moving nationwide campaign devoted to exposing all other 9/11 conspiracy sites as CIA fronts. "They are trying to prevent an immediate armed revolution by 90 percent of the American people. This would have already happened, except that Amy Goodman and WorldNetDaily refuse to tell the truth."

Mr. Head claimed to have definitively proven "9/11 was a globalist inside job" by midnight on September 11th, declaring: "Everything that happened on 9/11 was physically impossible!"

Professor Jonathan U.R. Betters is the secretary-general of Endoctorated Experts for 9/11 Revelations, a group claiming 3.5 million accredited scientists as members. "What about the connection to reverse-engineered extraterrestrial flight technologies," he asked. "When are you going to tell us about that, Mr. Cheney?"

"Cheney is paving the way for his true masters in a Hegelian dialectic - problem, reaction, solution," said Richard Stones, Supreme Leader of the Total MIHOP Warriors Alliance and host of the "Galactic Deathcamp" radio program.

"Before you celebrate that 9/11 has been exposed, remember that the UN-led Chinese Army is poised along the Mexican border. They are here to impose a one-world government by Jimmy Carter, Hillary Clinton, Nelson Mandela, George Soros, Gorbachev, Zionists, euthanasiasts, Freemasons and Bilderbergers.

"And make no mistake: They will take our guns away!"

Radio talk kingpin Rush Limbaugh shot back at the conspiracy theorists in kind, describing 9/11 as a "necessary sacrifice" and "a gift" to the American people. He called it "a shame" that Mr. Stones was not also among the victims of the attacks.

"Most of those killed were Democrat defeatists who would have otherwise been massacred in even greater numbers by the Islamofascist animals," Mr. Limbaugh said on his program last Thursday. "And now these lily-livers have the gall to attack President Bush's team because they acted too boldly to protect them?"

According to Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Cheney's bombshell proves that the Bush administration has prevented any foreign attack on the American homeland throughout its entire term in office.

A caller from Ohio typified sentiments among Mr. Limbaugh's listeners: "Okay, so it was an inside job. The liberals need to shut up about it already. We pay our leaders to know more and better than we do."

Law and Orderly, Business Proceeds Apace

New York Stock Exchange indices rallied starting Tuesday morning, spurred by the perception that Mr. Cheney's clear statement would end the 9/11 conspiracy speculations undermining consumer confidence. Arms-makers, security companies and pharmaceuticals led the way.

The aerospace sector spiked again Thursday after Warren Buffet's surprise announcement that he and his financial empire would relocate headquarters from Omaha to a new mansion aboard the International Space Station. But the Dow Jones Average was down again Friday, on the heels of a world-wide plunge in the US dollar.

Manhattan shoppers seemed unperturbed as canned goods, first-aid kits and crank-powered radio/flashlight sets flew off the shelves. Talk of a possible World Series appearance for the New York Mets filled the EPA-certified air.

At the offices of Eliot Spitzer, the attorney general of New York state, staff members declined to say whether Mr. Cheney's revelations suggest probable cause for a criminal investigation. A spokesman noted only that Mr. Cheney's comments did not constitute a legal deposition. Mr. Spitzer, on the campaign trail for New York governor, was unavailable for comment.

In Chicago, federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald announced his crack team was launching an inconclusive three-year investigation to determine whether Cheney had illegally revealed any state secrets during last Tuesday's press conference.

Leave it to veteran journalist Geraldo Rivera to put the big picture in proper perspective. "One question still has all of America abuzz," he said Wednesday at the top of Geraldo at Large, his half-hour daily program. "Do we have any news about pretty Natalie Holloway, missing for almost two years since she was last seen drinking and dancing at a teenie-bopper bar in Aruba? We'll be wading into the shark-infested waters of the Carribbean, right after the break."

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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby thatsmystory » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:30 pm

Jeff wrote:IMO, this is fascinating. This is where Clarke has to go to explain incompetence, but it's a less plausible narrative than complicity. A speculated failure to recruit 9/11 hijackers in 2000 doesn't explain the institutional incuriosity towards them in 2001. (Like, say, denial of warrant requests that were so bizarre agents joked there must be an al Qaeda mole in the FBI.)


Clarke's theory doesn't take the embassy bombings or the Cole attack into account. How many people were deemed expendable for a CIA infiltration plan?

There is no mention of the UBLU, the other FBI unit whose agents conducted themselves in a bizarre manner. If the withholding was all about protecting a CIA operation from the FBI then why did the withholding continue after the FBI was notified?

It doesn't factor in how much intelligence was gained during the infiltration effort.
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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:17 pm

thatsmystory wrote:
Jeff wrote:IMO, this is fascinating. This is where Clarke has to go to explain incompetence, but it's a less plausible narrative than complicity. A speculated failure to recruit 9/11 hijackers in 2000 doesn't explain the institutional incuriosity towards them in 2001. (Like, say, denial of warrant requests that were so bizarre agents joked there must be an al Qaeda mole in the FBI.)


Clarke's theory doesn't take the embassy bombings or the Cole attack into account. How many people were deemed expendable for a CIA infiltration plan?

There is no mention of the UBLU, the other FBI unit whose agents conducted themselves in a bizarre manner. If the withholding was all about protecting a CIA operation from the FBI then why did the withholding continue after the FBI was notified?

It doesn't factor in how much intelligence was gained during the infiltration effort.



Yeah it was pretty fishy how Clinton and the boys didn't let the FBI do much investigating with the USS Cole event. I mean Sandy Berger goes and tried to destroy pre 9/11 intel, and the left still doesn't see how the Clinton era is key to unlocking the 9/11 mystery. Most people don't know the CIA and Malaysian authorities were monitoring the 9/11-USS Cole jamboree get together in Kuala Lampar in Jan 2000, then followed them to LA where they met in the loving arms of Saudi spooks.


Hot on the heels of news that Pakistani ISI was indeed protecting bin Laden under Saudi cash...

Truth researchers NEED to read Peter Lance's "1000 Years For Revenge". Lance and even fellow truth researchers don't know his work is some of the best boon for exposing the official story.
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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby bks » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:12 am

JackRiddler wrote:

Actually, I think exposure of the Blee's nest is one strand out of many, isolated to prevent the most compelling big picture, which must include Ali Mohamed, the recruitment and surveillance evidence of the Hamburg/Brooklyn cell, Able Danger and much more. But it's a step.


It's a potentially very big step. The Clarke speculation that Tenet ordered tabs be kept on Almihdhar and Alhazmi in the US, even if it's wrong on the details, confirms Tenet as a liar and complicit in the effort to keep FBI in the dark. Tenet's on record as claiming that "everyone believed" the FBI had been notified of the fact that Almihdhar had a US visa in January 2000. If Alec Station can be definitively linked to a surveillance effort on Almihdhar and Alhazmi inside the US that CIA headquarters was in any way implicated in, then Tenet can't be telling the truth. [As it is, he's covering up for his Alec Station employees, at minimum]

Jeff wrote:IMO, this is fascinating. This is where Clarke has to go to explain incompetence, but it's a less plausible narrative than complicity. A speculated failure to recruit 9/11 hijackers in 2000 doesn't explain the institutional incuriosity towards them in 2001. (Like, say, denial of warrant requests that were so bizarre agents joked there must be an al Qaeda mole in the FBI.)


Recall too that Alec Station's Tom Wilshire, who was directly involved in the failure to watchlist KAM and NAH back in January 2000, was on loan to the FBI beginning in May 2001, and he was in a position to obstruct, if not thwart, the hunt for Alhazmi and Almihdhar from that point on. Pretty convenient.

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Clarke's theory doesn't take the embassy bombings or the Cole attack into account. How many people were deemed expendable for a CIA infiltration plan?



Good point, though I don't think Almihdhar was known to be associated with the embassy bombings in early 2000 when he came to the US. The Cole Bombing wasn't until October 2000, of course.
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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby bks » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:13 am

strange dupe
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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby bks » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:46 am

Here's a 12-miute video of Clarke making the claim. Maybe someone can embed it?

Putting his speculative conclusion about CIA's reasons for withholding the information aside, the facts he presents make for a very damning piece of video. If Clarke wanted to suggest that CIA was complicit in helping the plot along [without of course explicitly suggesting it], seems to me he would say pretty much what he says here.

one big point of contention: Clarke says at the end that Cofer Black, Bleen and Tenet "Got away with it" because none of this came out despite two high-profile investigations. That's bullshit. Virtually all of this information has been "out" for years. They got away with it not because the information wasn't known, but because it wasn't pursued. It still hasn't been pursued by an investigative body.


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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby Allegro » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:28 am

^^^ Here's the embed, bks.

Interview #07 with Richard Clark | October 2009
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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:29 pm

Didn't Coffer Black once claim he had moles in bin Laden's inner circle?

Coffer Black going to head Blackwater is funny, since they're $$$ money is in the counter terror biz. Like the scene in Iron Man when the CEO of Stark Defense is seen secretly helping the terrorists and directing them
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Re: Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackers

Postby thatsmystory » Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:20 am

bks wrote:Good point, though I don't think Almihdhar was known to be associated with the embassy bombings in early 2000 when he came to the US. The Cole Bombing wasn't until October 2000, of course.


They were linked to the Yemen hub which was a key aspect of the FBI's embassy bombings investigation. There are so many unanswered questions.
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