8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost killed"

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Postby 82_28 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:44 pm

Yeah, what I was gonna say, the Phelps shit is merely a garden variety scam. Only most don't notice it because they are so outrageous about shit that pushes people's buttons -- people with pet causes and have been lured away from taking in the bigger picture. They are profiting off of the destruction of the first amendment and that is all. There is absolutely, that I can tell, any religion they adhere to, other than ripping you off as a tax payer and your freedom of religion at the expense of the Constitution. Which is the whole point in being a right wing/"black op" operative. It's basically the childish philosophy that when you would take a friends hand, they trusted you in the sense you were holding their hand or something, but then surprise them when their guard is down and start hitting them in the face with their own hand. And then much laughter is had. Or whatever was had.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:51 pm

I don't want this to get off topic because Hugh wants this thread focused and so do I. As he puts it:

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:C'mon, you coincidence theorists and HMW-attackers. Pull this reality out of psyops world. Just try.


So again, I want to clarify the case you're making here so we can discuss the merits of what you're saying with this post.

Wombaticus Rex wrote:So Hugh, you're asserting that Robin Quivers deliberately got into a car accident/was set up for a car accident either in concert with or because of the CIA, in response to a TYPO that was published on the Democracy Now website the day before? Do I have that correct?
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby norton ash » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:53 pm

I quiver with the anticipation of HMW's reply.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby barracuda » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:01 pm

Wombaticus, I'm not understanding what typo you're referring to.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby 82_28 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:03 pm

Wombat, seriously here. OK, not serious. But are you in legion with the CIA and RI at the same time?

I think that's enough to get you demoted. :partyhat

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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:10 pm

So, I was mistaken -- thanks barracuda for the clarify. Turns out, at the original source link there is no typo, Frank Schaeffer obviously knows his shit and got it right:

You have to understand, in the evangelical circle she comes from, there’s a whole movement called the Quiverfull movement, which is about having a full quiver of children, no birth control, lots of kids, five kids, 24 foster kids, whatever—homeschooling, train your kids at home, take them out of the public school system. She’s been in this movement for more than 20 years.


However, at the start of this thread, Hugh does some lexical priming of his own by changing things up a bit:

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:DemocracyNow interview with ex-fundamentalist Frank Schaefer exposes leading Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann as i
a Submissive Wife embracing the 'Quiver Movement' of fringe Christian fundamentalists
who crank out kidz for their male dick-tators, "a bronze-age mythology of misogyny and racism..." as Frank Schaefer calls it.


It's definitely more persuasive when you abbreviate the actual keyword to make your case more persuasive.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby Laodicean » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:17 pm

norton ash wrote:I quiver with the anticipation of HMW's reply.


Yes, what arrows does he have in his quiver to deliver?
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby norton ash » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:22 pm

the cat's in the bag and the bag's in the river
or will hugh be retractin like an indian giver
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby barracuda » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:32 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:It's definitely more persuasive when you abbreviate the actual keyword to make your case more persuasive.


Yep. The only real question here is whether Hugh mistakenly quoted Schaffer because he was tired last night, or drunk, or careless, etc., or if he purposefully fudged the keyword in the OP in order to mislead the readers here regarding his theory and send the rest of us off on a merry and time-wasting goose-chase. In what possible way a post like this is more valuable than a sincere discussion regarding UFOs, I have no idea.

That being said, the quiverfull idea has some interesting points, eugenically speaking. I wonder if I could get together with some like-minded woman and create a little tribe of radical anarcho-syndicalists in a simlar vein? It's worth a try, I guess.
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Postby jingofever » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:44 pm

barracuda wrote:Yep. The only real question here is whether Hugh mistakenly quoted Schaffer because he was tired last night, or drunk, or careless, etc.

He constantly gets the names of movies and actors wrong. I think he has a bad memory for those kinds of things and maybe assumes everybody has the same problem and so keyword hijacking becomes a legitimate tactic in his mind.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:49 pm

oops this belongs in the Uganda thread...I think :oops:
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby 82_28 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:08 pm

Most certainly do I not mean, do as I say, but Hugh needs to get acquainted with the world of just pure weirdness and synchs and mysticism. Not at all calling you out, Hugh, but there is a lot of Fortean shit out there and sometimes shit just lines up and you're there to notice it. Do you even realize how many people don't know shit about shit? My very handle here at RI, 82_28 is simply from a coincidence two (three? can't remember), but at least two subsequent days of cash turn-ins of $82.28, which grew to also include PKD's death date and birth date as pointed out by justdrew. I dunno if you believe me or not, but I have not nor have I ever, in my knowledge, affiliated myself with the CIA. Yet PKD was certain agencies were after him for some substantial portion of his life. Doesn't mean it was or wasn't true. I have however experienced or should I say, was awake enough to experience and notice the same kind of synchs many "attuned" people report. It all happened on my own. I am the reporter.

I was talking to some mid-twenty somethings yesterday and the dude said something that ended with "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong". And I immediately leaped all over it with the finishing quote (from Fletch), "And I am not a big man." I totally had to tell them all about Fletch. Perhaps this just proves your point some more. Yet I don't think so. The "kids" didn't know about Fletch. Almost all of my sense of humor comes from Chevy Chase movies -- and therein is a KWH humdinger. But, I think Hugh should broaden his reflexive horizons to bring more to the table insofar as I do believe he has something to contribute to this Manatee he admires so much as having won. It's just it's not cut and dried, man. It's cut and dried and then it wilts or rots or appreciates in value or something.

It's not all the CIA. There is a whole lot more of the weird out there than any human agency could ever muster. Unconsciousness and consciousness is one big hall of mirrors reflecting off one another that has been sought to be corralled (and profited from) for thousands of years.
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby Simulist » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:21 pm

Sometimes it seems to me that each of us has something we think helps us make sense out of a senseless world (even if, by definition, there's really no sense to be made).

Religion does it for some, scientism for others, and maybe KWH does it for Hugh.

For me, it's Simulist's Special Blend of Bullshit. But it's probably just bullshit, all of it — and that might be the most unsettling revelation of all.

(Or maybe that's just bullshit, too.)
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Re: 8/17 Bachmann="Quiver Movement," 8/18 Quivers"almost kil

Postby Marie Laveau » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:56 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:The Phelps family is almost entirely comprised of practicing attorneys. The source of their funding is not a mystery and I know a number of investigative journalists and blogger types who have pursued the question of WBC funding only to be disappointed by the fact they're actually hard-working psychotics who mostly fund themselves.

The Duggar family has had a harder time and that's a major reason for their celebrity status -- it's driven by necessity because you're right, their real estate work was increasingly insufficient to fund their family. They currently participate in affiliate marketing networks and "Wealth Gospel" / Prosperity church programs:

http://www.duggarfamily.com/content/faq ... y%20people?


I know this (they are attorneys) is the refrain always given. I don't buy it at all. They live in some rinky dink town, they have to survive - house payments, groceries, bills, etc.- PLUS move all those protestors around the country and the world, so they're looking at airline tickets, rental cars, food, hotels, etc. etc.

Supposedly they make their money from bogus lawsuits- well, I can tell you from being associated with someone who makes a living doing that- or did- that those lawsuits pay out little more then ten thousand a shot. Usually less. It's called "go away" money, and corporations keep a contingency fee for such lawsuits, as it is cheaper than taking it to court even when the corporation knows it will win.

They don't have THAT many bogus lawsuits. I brought this up regularly on the other forum I'm on, and most people bought the regular line that they make their money as attorney's/from bogus lawsuits. When it was discovered they had been to Quantico and had "training" from the FBI people finally perked up their ears at what might be going on with them, and now people are wondering if they aren't being funded by someone like the Koch outfit.

I can guarantee you they ARE NOT making their living, doing what they do, as small-town ambulance chasing attorneys. Not with that many people, traveling and living as they do.
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