E. Howard Hunt deathbed confession -- Rolling Stone mag

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E. Howard Hunt deathbed confession -- Rolling Stone mag

Postby Nordic » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:55 am

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/st ... ard_hunt/1

It's an awesome read. Yes, one of the "three tramps" at the Kennedy assassination, and the leader of the Watergate burglary. This guy was the ultimate CIA bad guy.

E. Howard scribbled the initials "LBJ," standing for Kennedy's ambitious vice president, Lyndon Johnson. Under "LBJ," connected by a line, he wrote the name Cord Meyer. Meyer was a CIA agent whose wife had an affair with JFK; later she was murdered, a case that's never been solved. Next his father connected to Meyer's name the name Bill Harvey, another CIA agent; also connected to Meyer's name was the name David Morales, yet another CIA man and a well-known, particularly vicious black-op specialist. And then his father connected to Morales' name, with a line, the framed words "French Gunman Grassy Knoll."

So there it was, according to E. Howard Hunt. LBJ had Kennedy killed. It had long been speculated upon. But now E. Howard was saying that's the way it was. And that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the only shooter in Dallas. There was also, on the grassy knoll, a French gunman, presumably the Corsican Mafia assassin Lucien Sarti, who has figured prominently in other assassination theories.
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Postby marykmusic » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:15 am

I'm most of the way done with reading this, and is it interesting! Thanks. I don't read R.S. much any more (too much drivel about pop music) but historically, some of the greatest news stories have come out of it. --MaryK
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:24 pm

amazingly good article, thanks
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Postby jingofever » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:34 am

I didn't finish the article yet (I will next time I'm on the can) but what I found funny was the profile of St. John Hunt as a broke, out of work, former meth addict and felon. And I'm thinking, could there be any ulterior motives for his coming out with this information? I'm not suggesting he is trying to get money, just saying it is an easy way to brush him off.
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Postby Nordic » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:25 am

Yes, I thought of that, too.

However, the article makes it clear that there is an audio tape of the same information, given in E.H.H.'s voice.

So unless he faked the audiotape it seems unlikely.

Yeah, it's a trip that this guys' kids are all messed up. Makes sense, of course, but it just adds to the whole portrait of an utterly amoral human being.

As far as Rolling Stone, they have indeed had some of the best journalism about the Bush administration crimes in the past five years. The one called, I believe, "The Man Who Sold the War" is a must-read as well. That article, as well as this one, should be taught in every eighth-grade social studies class.
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Postby streeb » Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:11 am

I think it's bullshit. Interesting that he doesn't include David Atlee Phillips in the plot. LBJ? Sure. Whatever.

This is a partial admission of something resembling truth, with an all important clause exonerating Hunt. It'll satisfy a portion of the assasination nerds, but I don't buy it. And to use his son as the messenger? Assuming that any of this actually transpired between Hunt and St. John, and further assuming that Hunt is feeding him lies, then it's a hugely shitty thing to do. But not worse than anybody reading this blog would expect from the man.
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Postby sunny » Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:23 am

"hugely shitty" is the mildest thing one could say about Hunt.

Nobody was safe from the bastard, not his wife, children, the president, or the country.

The man was in Dealey Plaza. A jury has spoken on the matter. If he didn't shoot the President himself, he was surely participating in, if not actually directing, the op.
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Postby streeb » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:37 pm

It's a very good piece, nonetheless. It's colourful and it gives a sense of what a hot dog he was. But Hunt spent decades protesting his innocence, and here he is still trying to wriggle out of any responsibility, with his last breath. That's the real story here, I think. I'm looking forward to what Lisa Pease has to say about it. She promised she would comment on her Real History blog, but hasn't yet.
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Postby MinM » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:34 pm

streeb wrote:I think it's bullshit. Interesting that he doesn't include David Atlee Phillips in the plot. LBJ? Sure. Whatever.

This is a partial admission of something resembling truth, with an all important clause exonerating Hunt. It'll satisfy a portion of the assasination nerds, but I don't buy it. And to use his son as the messenger? Assuming that any of this actually transpired between Hunt and St. John, and further assuming that Hunt is feeding him lies, then it's a hugely shitty thing to do. But not worse than anybody reading this blog would expect from the man.

David Atlee Phillips is featured prominently in the video series which includes the capture and execution of Patrice Lumumba:

It reminds me a little of the old newsreels of Lumumba's capture:

(a couple minutes into this clip)


http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... 17#p431017



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Re: E. Howard Hunt deathbed confession -- Rolling Stone mag

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:21 pm

Hunt behaved himself after his co-workers took out his wife in the Watergate Plane Crash of December, 1972.

His 'confessions' are misdirection, probably to protect his kids.
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Re: E. Howard Hunt deathbed confession -- Rolling Stone mag

Postby wordspeak2 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:49 pm

Hey, the link's not working for me. What's up with that?
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Re: E. Howard Hunt deathbed confession -- Rolling Stone mag

Postby barracuda » Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:55 pm

It's an antique link - try this one.
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The CIA, Cuba and Operation Peter Pan

Postby MinM » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:06 pm


This story features prominently the aforementioned David Atlee Phillips and Antonio Veciana.
Weekend Edition December 16-18, 2011

Where's Captain Hook in NPR's Fairy Tale?

The CIA, Cuba and Operation Peter Pan

by SAUL LANDAU and NELSON P. VALDES

“Los niños nacen para ser felices.”

– José Martí

On November 19, 2011 NPR broadcast “Children Of Cuba Remember: Their Flight To America.” Reporter Greg Allen claimed the 1960-62 journey from Cuba to the United States of 14,000 plus Cuban children “was made possible because of a deal a priest in the Miami diocese [Father Bryan Walsh] … worked out with the US State Department. The agreement allowed him to sign visa waivers for children 16 or under.” Allen then interviewed several right-of-center Cuban Americans to offer “objective” perspective on the facts surrounding Operation Peter Pan.

Curiously, Allen omitted the CIA from his report, although ample evidence shows the Agency in the early 1960s conspired with the Church to spirit kids out of Cuba.

Once inside the nurturing borders of the greatest country in the world “Pedro Pan kids have done well,” Allen concluded, without explaining what “well” means. Now adult Pedro Pan kids remain “firmly opposed to any normalization of relations with the Castro regime, the regime that was responsible for breaking up their families and forcing them from their homeland.”

NPR staff might have discovered a more complex and sinister story – had they looked. The CIA refuses to release Peter Pan documents, but abundant testimony shows the Agency forging documents and spreading lies, with Father Walsh and the regional Catholic hierarchy. Their goal: separate elite children from parents (a Cuban brain drain) and generate political instability.

One Operation Peter Pan conspirator, Antonio Veciana, now living in Miami, told us how Maurice Bishop (aka CIA official David Atlee Phillips) recruited him in 1960 “to wage psychological war — to destabilize the government.” Veciana described how the Agency forged a law to make affluent Cubans believe the revolutionary government planned to usurp parental control. Bishop’s agents in Cuba spread this rumor, backed by a forged simulation of the supposed law, to members of the professional and propertied classes. The forgery “declared that parents would lose control of their kids to the state.”

Veciana recounted how “CIA agents claimed they’d stolen the document from the Cuban government.” This false document “created tremendous panic.” On October 26, 1960, CIA-controlled Swan island radio station, south of Cuba, broadcast breaking “news.” Cuba’s government, the radio asserted, planned to remove children from parents so as to indoctrinate them. Radio Swan reported another lie: the Cuban underground had obtained a copy of the forthcoming “law.”

Minimal research would have revealed that Leopoldina and Ramón Grau Alsina, niece and nephew of former Cuban President Ramón Grau San Martín, had confessed to Cuban security officials after being arrested in 1965 to having printed the false law in Havana, circulated it clandestinely and then lied to parents.

Article 3 of the apocryphal document stated: “When this law comes into effect, the custody of persons under 20 years of age will be exercised by the state via persons or organizations to which this power has been delegated.” Priests and CIA agents both recruited kids and persuaded parents to “trust us. The US government will care for them.”

The clergy circulated the phony document among their Cuban upper middle-class flock. Catholic school officials feared Castro’s rapidly expanding public instruction program would undermine their virtual educational monopoly among moneyed sectors.

In March 1960, President Eisenhower ordered the CIA to overthrow the Cuban government. Agency plotters designed Peter Pan to run alongside political propaganda and economic strangulation policies. These parallel tracks would weaken Castro’s government while US trainers prepared a Cuban-exile invasion force, which, in turn, would coordinate with CIA-backed urban terrorists and guerrillas.

Operation Peter Pan (recall the Disney film?) used Cuban kids and parents to further their goal: overthrowing the revolutionary government. NPR’s claim of “no evidence” of CIA involvement would have dissolved had they asked Veciana or questioned why the CIA still refuses to release its 1500 plus documents on that Operation — while de-classifying archives on the Bay of Pigs and the 1962 Missile Crisis? ...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/12/16/ ... peter-pan/
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Re: E. Howard Hunt deathbed confession -- Rolling Stone mag

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:48 am

NPR staff might have discovered a more complex and sinister story – had they looked. The CIA refuses to release...


Um, NPR staff IS the CIA, people. That's why the whitewashed distorted presentation of what CIA did back then to steal children from Cuba.

Also, leading up to and concurrent with this CIA-NPR treatment of the kidnapping by CIA were subliminal references to
the movie, 'The Sound of Music.' The story before NPR's 'Pedro Pan' story included singing and other sources (BBC News and Oprah Magazine) have put the headline 'Favorite Things' on their front pages to evoke the escape by children from Hitler's Austria while Julie Andrews croons.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11651490
29 October 2010 Last updated at 06:52 ET
The Sound of Music cast reunite on Oprah Winfrey show
The cast of The Sound of Music have reunited for the first time in 45 years on Oprah Winfrey's US chat show.

Dame Julie Andrews and Christopher Plummer - Maria and Captain Von Trapp in the classic musical film - were joined by the actors who played his seven on-screen children.

The story of a singing Austrian family trying to escape the Nazis prior to World War II won five Oscars in 1966.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-160310545
December 2011 Last updated at 06:48 ET
Christopher Plummer slates 'gooey' Sound of Music role

Sound of Music cast reunite on TV
Christopher Plummer has cited his role in classic musical The Sound of Music as the "toughest" he has ever played.


Elvis Costello sang 'This is Hell' and included 'My Favorite Things,' the 'Sound of Music' version.

http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/elvis ... _hell.html

This is hell, this is hell, this is hell.
"My Favourite Things" are playing
Again and again
But it's by Julie Andrews
And not by John Coltrane

Endless balmy breezes and perfect sunsets framed
Vintage wine for breakfast
And naked starlets floating in Champagne
All the passions of your youth
Are tranquillised and tamed
You may think it looks familiar
Though you may know it by another name
[Chorus]
This is hell, this is hell.
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