Things are getting ugly in Oakland.
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by Aurataur » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:45 pm
by ninakat » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:10 pm
ninakat wrote:Peter Schiff, Tea Partier -- wants to educate OWS
Skip to 9:56 in the video below for his comments on OWS. He says the protesters are "directing their anger in the wrong direction" -- "they're occupying the wrong street. Instead of occupying wall street they should be occupying Pennsylvania Avenue." Schiff says they should be protesting the government not the banks that got the bailouts, but his little pea brain doesn't get the simple fact that Wall Street is dictating government policy. I suppose for Schiff, that's a conspiracy theory.He then goes on and on about capitalism not being the problem -- which opens a can-o-worms since it's the age-old debate about what true capitalism really means, etc.
OK, fair enough, he loves his version of capitalism and thinks it will save the world. But he's trying to frame the OWS positions as communism. Here we go. He thinks the demands are for more government, more socialism. Talk about a laundry list of right-wing cliches. I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned Obama's birth certificate in previous videos.
He then gets all patronizing and condescending, saying "If we could education the Occupy Wall Street movement, so they understand what it is they're protesting, then maybe we could merge the Occupy Wall Street movement with the Tea Party." Is he fucking kidding me? The Tea Party that was occupied by Sarah Palin and the far-right?
Schiff should just stick to being the outspoken contrarian regarding the demise of the dollar. He's coming across as a 1 percenter with this schtick.
by 82_28 » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:35 pm
ninakat wrote:Here's Schiff "educating" a group at OWS. He's a broken record. Consistent, at least.ninakat wrote:Peter Schiff, Tea Partier -- wants to educate OWS
Skip to 9:56 in the video below for his comments on OWS. He says the protesters are "directing their anger in the wrong direction" -- "they're occupying the wrong street. Instead of occupying wall street they should be occupying Pennsylvania Avenue." Schiff says they should be protesting the government not the banks that got the bailouts, but his little pea brain doesn't get the simple fact that Wall Street is dictating government policy. I suppose for Schiff, that's a conspiracy theory.
OK, fair enough, he loves his version of capitalism and thinks it will save the world. But he's trying to frame the OWS positions as communism. Here we go. He thinks the demands are for more government, more socialism. Talk about a laundry list of right-wing cliches. I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned Obama's birth certificate in previous videos.
He then gets all patronizing and condescending, saying "If we could education the Occupy Wall Street movement, so they understand what it is they're protesting, then maybe we could merge the Occupy Wall Street movement with the Tea Party." Is he fucking kidding me? The Tea Party that was occupied by Sarah Palin and the far-right?
Schiff should just stick to being the outspoken contrarian regarding the demise of the dollar. He's coming across as a 1 percenter with this schtick.
by MacCruiskeen » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:26 pm
Income inequality in the US has sharply increased in recent decades, a bipartisan analysis has revealed.
The Congressional Budget Office said income had trebled for the richest 1% between 1979 and 2007.
Meanwhile, a major poll shows anxiety for the future is high, with a majority saying the US is "on the wrong track".
The findings emerged as police used tear gas and mass arrests to force Occupy Wall Street protesters out of their camps in Atlanta and Oakland.
Some 50 people were arrested in Atlanta and 85 were held overnight in Oakland, California.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15469096
Occupy Oakland protesters are insisting they will return to their protest site only a few hours after police forced hundreds of people to clear out of the camp.
by eyeno » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:27 pm
Occupy movement spins off OccupyMARINES and Occupy Police
By Muriel Kane
Sunday, October 23, 2011
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/23/o ... py-police/
The Occupy Wall Street movement has recently expanded beyond merely occupying parks and other physical territory and is staking out a new realm of metaphorical occupations that includes both OccupyMARINES and Occupy Police.
The inspiration for OccupyMARINES came when Marine Sergeant Shamar Thomas confronted police officers who were threatening to arrest OWS protesters in Times Square on October 15, yelling, “Stop hurting these people, man! … How do you sleep at night? There is no honor in this!”
According to Business Insider, members of the new movement began by reaching out to other former marines but “have now called on veterans of other branches of the military to lend their support to help ‘talk sense’ to police and recruit them into supporting the Occupy movement.”
It remains to be seen how successful the group will be and how many veterans it will attract, but it appears to be growing rapidly and gaining support from other progressive organizations. Its webpage, which is credited as “proudly donated by The Pirate Party of New York,” announced on Sunday that the umbrella group Velvet Revolution will be acting as its fiscal sponsor to accept donations.
A second organization, Occupy Police, has already been spun off “for police in support of the 99%.” The first posting at its website, dated October 21, states, “We are in open Solidarity with Occupy Wall Street and all Occupy movements across the nation. We’re starting off Day 1 with a mass e-mail to all police departments throughout the US. We want them to know that they ARE part of the 99% and to get involved with the movement. We openly support positive communication between Police/People and we encourage you to do the same.”
Both groups have Facebook pages, located at OccupyMARINES and Occupy Police.
by Jeff » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:46 pm
Whatever Happened In Oakland, It Came From The Top
Robert Johnson and Linette Lopez | Oct. 26, 2011, 7:12 PM
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Below is section two from the Oakland Police Training Bulletin.
2. Uses of Direct Fired Specialty Impact Less-Lethal Munitions (SIM). Direct Fired SIM are less–lethal specialty impact weapons that are designed to be direct fired at a specific target, including but not limited to flexible batons (“bean bags”), and shall not be used for crowd management, crowd control or crowd dispersal during demonstrations or crowd events. Direct Fired SIM may never be used indiscriminately against a crowd or group of persons even if some members of the crowd or group are violent or disruptive.
a. Direct Fired SIM may be used against a specific individual who is engaging in conduct that poses an immediate threat of loss of life or serious bodily injury to himself or herself, officers, or the general public or who is engaging in substantial destruction of property which creates an imminent risk to the lives or safety of other persons. In such instances, Direct Fired SIM shall be used only when other means of arrest are unsafe and when the individual can be targeted without endangering other crowd members or bystanders (See Special Order No. 8135 enacted April 15, 2004.).
b. The use of Direct Fired SIM must cease when the violent or destructive actions cease. These weapons must not be used for the purpose of apprehension or to otherwise prevent escape unless escape would present a substantial risk of continued imminent threat to loss of life or serious bodily injury.
c. Members shall only deploy Direct Fired SIM during a demonstration or crowd event under the direction of a supervisor. Oakland Police Department, 28 Oct 05 17
d. When circumstances permit, the supervisor on the scene shall make an attempt to accomplish the policing goal without the use of Direct Fired SIM as described above, and, if practical, an audible warning shall be given to the subject before deployment of the weapon.
e. Any person struck by a round shall be transported to a hospital for observation and any necessary treatment. Ambulance service, if required, shall be ordered per General Order I-4. First aid, when necessary, shall be administered per Training Bulletin III-K.
f. No member shall use Direct Fired SIM without formal training.
g. Direct Fired SIM shall not be used against a person who is under restraint.
h. Members shall not discharge a Direct Fired SIM at a person’s head, neck, throat, face,
left armpit, spine, kidneys, or groin unless deadly force would be justified
by Wombaticus Rex » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:53 pm
by 2012 Countdown » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:01 pm
by wordspeak2 » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:09 pm
by Jeff » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:14 pm
Street Sweeper Social Club
Cops from all over state- and helicopters- out last nite, trying to stop Occupy Oakland. Costed $300,000. They cant keep it up every night.
Tonight at 6pm. Occupy Oakland will converge at 14th and Broadway. We will win.
3 hours ago ·
Street Sweeper Social Club
I want to salute the Unions who were out there representing at the Occupy Oakland march last night. The California Nurses Association, Teachers Unions, ILWU, SEIU and others were out there with us. We need you tonight at 6, too. And we need you with your signs and placards to show folks how broadly this is reaching. If your union isn't down yet- force them to be.
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Street Sweeper Social Club
Sorry - this is Boots posting this.
by Laodicean » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:00 pm
Occupy Oakland: Iraq war veteran in critical condition after police clashes
Scott Olsen, 24, in hospital with fractured skull and brain swelling after allegedly being hit by a police projectile in Oakland
An Iraq war veteran has a fractured skull and brain swelling after allegedly being hit by a police projectile.
Scott Olsen is in a "critical condition" in Highland hospital in Oakland, a hospital spokesman confirmed.
Olsen, 24, suffered the head injury during protests in Oakland on Tuesday evening. More than 15 people were arrested after a crowd gathered to demonstrate against the police operation to clear two Occupy Oakland camps in the early hours of Tuesday morning.
Jay Finneburgh, a photographer who was covering the protest, published pictures of Olsen lying on the ground.
"This poor guy was right behind me when he was hit in the head with a police projectile. He went down hard and did not get up," Finneburgh wrote.
Olsen was taken to Highland by fellow protesters.
The Guardian spoke to people with Olsen at the hospital. Adele Carpenter, who knows Olsen through his involvement with anti-war groups, said she arrived at the hospital at 11pm on Tuesday night.
Carpenter said she was told by a doctor at the hospital that Olsen had a skull fracture and was in a "serious but stable" condition. She said he had been sedated and was unconscious.
"I'm just absolutely devastated that someone who did two tours of Iraq and came home safely is now lying in a US hospital because of the domestic police force," Carpenter said.
Olsen had only moved to Oakland in July, Carpenter said. He is a member of Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War, and met Carpenter through her work with the civilian soldier alliance.
Keith Shannon, who served with Olsen in Iraq, arrived at the hospital after protesters contacted him through Facebook. He confirmed Olsen had a fractured skull, and said he had been told by a doctor Olsen also had brain swelling.
A neurosurgeon was due to assess Olsen to determine if he needed surgery, Shannon said.
"It's really hard," Shannon said. "I really wish I had gone out with him instead of staying home last night."
Shannon, who is also 24, said he had seen the video footage showing Olsen lying on the floor as a police officer throws an explosive device near him.
"It's terrible to go over to Iraq twice and come back injured, and then get injured by the police that are supposed to be protecting us," he said.
He said Olsen had served two tours of Iraq, in 2006 and 2007. Olsen was in 3rd Battalion, 4th Marines with Shannon before leaving the military in 2010.
He moved to the San Francisco area in July and works for Opswat, a software company, living with Shannon in Daly City, just south of San Francisco.
Shannon said Olsen was hit in the head by a tear gas canister or smoke canister shot by a police officer. He said Olsen had a curved scar on his forehead consistent with a canister.
Protesters who had accompanied Olsen to Highland hospital got in touch with Shannon through Facebook, after Olsen said he lived with someone called "Keith". Shannon said he was told Olsen was unable to say his surname.
Olsen is originally from Wisconsin and some of his family were planning to fly out to California to be with him, Shannon said.
Video footage published to YouTube shows Olsen lying prone in front of a line of police. Around 10 people gather around him in an apparent attempt to provide aid, before a police officer throws an explosive device into their midst, scattering the group.
Footage captured after the explosion, which appears to be from a flash bang grenade, shows Olsen being carried away by a group of people.
Oakland police confirmed at a press conference that they used tear gas and baton rounds, but said they did not use flash bang grenades. Police could not be immediately reached for comment.
by 2012 Countdown » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:11 pm
OperationLeakS Anonymous
The NYCGA came to the consensus of donating $20,000 to #OccupyOakland #OccupyWallStreet #OWS
5 minutes ago
ChristRobbins Christopher Robbins
Kettle nets keep following us as we loop back around Park #OccupyWallStreet
15 minutes ago
by Jeff » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:20 pm
2012 Countdown wrote:Police moving in on protesters LIVE Stream NYC City Hall Park #OWS
http://www.ustream.tv/theother99
They've taken over Broadway!
by Jeff » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:36 pm
by eyeno » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:40 pm
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