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Re: don't go 'round tonight - bound to take your life

Postby Six Hits of Sunshine » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:17 pm

This is such a cool fucking collage, IE. Which Sonic Youth single has the creepy crawl on it? I never "got" Bad Moon Rising until recently. I've heard it off and on for the last 17 years or so.


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we're gonna kill

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ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas...

Postby IanEye » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:20 am

Six Hits of Sunshine wrote: Which Sonic Youth single has the creepy crawl on it?


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If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings – nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much.


If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And – which is more –
you’ll be a Man my Son!


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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby Brigit » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:32 pm

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From Twyla:
"Anyone interested in McGowan's LC piece might want to take note that "Angel, Angel, Down We Go" is currently available on Netflix streaming under the title "Cult of the Damned." I just watched it and am planning on watching it again. It is not the LSD romp ala "The Trip" or "The Party" that some people expect. It is much darker.

Information seems to be limited on this movie (thru usual google sources, but I will probably rely on my son's master movie-fu and see if anything else turns up), there is not even a wiki on it. The first I heard of it was a a credit on a still in REsearch's '86 release, 'Incredibly Strange Films' . I have only anecdotal evidence that it was released about a week or so after the Tate/LaBianca killings. The story revolves around 'the richest girl in the world'. Her father is a closet homosexual who happens to own an MIC empire, her mother is an actress who started in stag films. She is a spoiled yet isolated and overweight character, raised by maids who is cutting herself and binge-eating in what is probably one of the first portrayals of those behaviors in film. She hooks up with a charismatic rock singer who leads a cult of spaced-out synchophants and winds up hallucinating her way to murder...

Blame Mc Gowan perhaps, but my first viewing of that film came from different eyes than I would have had previously. The cast is mostly comprised of singers from the scene of the day (Jordan Christopher-the first to record 'Wild Thing', Holly Near, and Lou Rawls) and two former child stars (Roddy McDowell and Davey Davison), Robert Thom penned and directed, he is best known for 'Bloody Mama', and 'Wild in the Street'. The world they portray seems to be an over-the-top black satire of hollywood at the time- especially Christopher's character of Bogart Stuyvesant. It soon becomes apparent that Bogart is no ordinary philandering guitar-playing hippie musician, he keeps talking about about violence and killing and war, especially race war... no offense, Lou Rawls, but...

This fucker gobsmacked me and I highly recommend people who have Netflix streaming see it while it's available. WARNING: I'm not sure exactly what will trigger people, but the film is highly surreal, cutting to hallucinogenic 'collages' that put me in mind of some psy-op survivor's artworks I've seen. The scene with Holly Near quite convincingly sitting on the ceilng is mind-bending (and not in a good way). It is funny in places, but (IMO) not the trash-film laugh fest some expected (as per reviews). The film is as dark as the rest of 1969 and I'm pretty sure Bogart was at least in part a satire of Charlie Manson- back when he seemed like a harmless crank hanging around the houses of the rich and famous. I'd love to find out who the other characters were based on."
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Twyla, thank you so much for this! I am an intermittent RI lurker - can't seem to stay away - and just happened to see the Laurel Canyon topic so had been following it. 2 summers ago, a friend told me about McGowan's site and I had a serious emotional reaction that was excruciating yet grounding with the return of psychogenic sx's, which is a litmus for reality-based triggers. I wondered why DM hadn't caught onto Jennifer Jones and Selznick given close ties with many of the named individuals and thought there was more likely than not a link. She was a starlet swept away from Robert Walker by David O. Selznick who spent the latter part of his career making her. RWalker died at age 33 leaving 2 sons, Michael is deceased but starred in Helles Belles that came out in 1969, Robert Jr. is still living; he was in the commune scene in Easy Rider with wife and children who lived in a commune in the general vicinity. Mary Jennifer Selznick was a cement baby with 4 older half brothers (David's being a generation above). Mary Jennifer committed suicide at age 21. She was a close friend and I happened to spend 3 weeks in her home while the movie was being filmed. I knew NOTHING about MIC/Hollywood/Intel or the pedantry of such conspiracies until very recently and have suffered a shocking awakening as the jagged pieces come into focus of their own accord, against my wishes. I may be one of those beautiful 50 something female baby boomers whose defenses are breaking down in menopause, something I am seeing increasingly among friends, clients of friends and my own clients. I have reached a point of not giving a damn about who might or might not be watching. A girl who can leave a violent man despite death threats and survive his suicide and raise kids in the aftermath, can respond to this astonishing coincidence, high weirdness, yes? I never watched the movie. I was visiting my friend not her mother and was young. It is such a tragic and dark picture and I remembered the name of the movie as "Angel Baby Down we Go". I watched it on Netflix last week and didn't bother pointing out the visible symbols to my spouse who thinks I am paranoid and radically deluded, along with the rest of my family, who all mysteriously stop talking or shut me up about things that I just impulsively blurt out quicker than a snake's tongue. Christ, the RUBY? Hit us over the head with a damn mallet. I am truly amazed by the blatant parallels to anything having to do with the LC scene and the cast of characters; it was like a high school presentation on the topic; I need to watch it again, but JJ's character reciting names, e.g. the Mama's and the Papa's and Near moving like Cass at one point and the MIC portraits. The film was made before the Manson murders (dah) but the collages are frighteningly similar to the scene of the crime. And the blatant impersonation of Morrison? And the hair! Big and Little Jennifer had a fight over the latter's hair; we spent an entire afternoon rolling her long hair with small electric rollers and she had glorious curls that her mother insisted she brush out; she went after her with a hairbrush; I kid you not, and I'll just bet Jennifer Jones improvised the scene based on what had happened with her real daughter! The fight escalated into a scratching and screaming brawl with things getting knocked over and was just awful. Jennifer had a scratch that her mother ignored. She had a terrible life and was tortured by her nanny and found her beloved cook dead as a little girl. Back at school her idea of "freaking out" was to go into a closet. Hmm. I doubt anyone is alive who would know me;
I looked up Louis Jourdin's son, a friend of the family as the person who may remember taking Mary Jennifer and her friend from school out on a double date in March of '69 and this is what I found:
Jourdan's only child, his son Louis Henry Jourdan, died of a drug overdose in 1981 and was buried in the Westwood Village Memorial Park Cemetery in Los Angeles, California. Jourdan has two stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame at 6153 and 6445 Hollywood Boulevard.

There are more connections with people mentioned by David McGowan, whom I have not contacted (McGowan that is), but think I might. More deaths/events than can possibly be a coincidence. I have been struggling with whether or not I should post this or not. The trauma toads are sparring with my social judgment and the former will eventually win so what the hell. I want so much to know what the hell happened to me. Something sure did. After that time in LA, I isolated having smoked something laced with angel dust or LSD, and did not fully come back into my body for years. What it means? Who knows.
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Re: Laurel Canyon

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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby Seamus OBlimey » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:58 pm

Is this worth posting?

Frank Zappa, his groupies and me

She was a strait-laced English typist. He was a sexually incontinent rock innovator. So why on earth did Pauline Butcher become Frank Zappa's secretary?

Deborah Orr
guardian.co.uk, Monday 3 October 2011 19.59 BST

One single incident serves as a perfect illustration of just what an extraordinarily unusual and charismatic person the US musician Frank Zappa, who died in 1993, must have been. In 1968, a year that saw the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy, a man turned up on the doorstep at the Log Cabin, the ramshackle, open-all-hours-to-all-comers crash pad in Laurel Canyon, Los Angeles, that Zappa and numerous other weird people called home. "My name is Raven. I brought you a present," this stranger announced, handing to Zappa a transparent bag, apparently filled with blood, before pointing a revolver at his chest.

Calmly, Zappa cajoled and manipulated Raven into walking with him, and numerous spectators, including Zappa's 24-year-old English secretary, to a nearby lake. He then persuaded everyone present to start throwing things into the water, including Raven, who threw in his gun. The secretary, Pauline Butcher, threw in a twig, which "floated on the algae" causing her to look round "apologetically". After that, Zappa, shoved the bag of blood back into Raven's hand, saying: "You must leave now." Raven did. Immediately exhorted by the many witnesses to call the police, Zappa refused. Why? "Because if I call the police, the police will arrest him and he'll go to jail and no one deserves to go to jail."

For Butcher, who worked for Zappa at the Log Cabin, and lived there too, this was just another gesture of outrageous and frustrating anti- authoritarianism from a man who was full of such gestures, a man who, nevertheless, she admired to the point of worship. Now, 40 years on from her time as Zappa's live-in assistant, Butcher has written a book, Freak Out! My Life With Frank Zappa, offering a detailed account of what she now understands to have been the two most remarkable – and marketable – years of her existence.

Looking at Butcher now, at this the casually but carefully dressed woman in her 60s, as she nervously sips sparkling water in the Royal Garden Hotel, in west London, the experiences she describes in her memoir seem hard to believe, very far from the life that she lives now, as Mrs Bird, with her husband, a banker with Rothschild's, in Singapore. But that life is not so far away, not today, anyway. It was in this hotel that Butcher, at 23, first encountered Zappa, when she was sent by her stenographic agency to transcribe and type up some lyrics for him. Here she sits, fretting about what the survivors among those who lived or hung out at the Log Cabin during those two years might think of what she has written about them.

Not very long after her first few meetings with Zappa, Butcher moved to the US and became his full-time secretary, despite the lack of convention with which the role was first suggested to her: "Do you think if we fucked, you could still work for me as my secretary?" Zappa asked. Butcher declined intercourse, although at that point she was certainly nurturing romantic thoughts about him. She was upset when she turned up in the US – pretty much on the strength of this most slender of invitations – and discovered that Zappa had a wife and a baby son. All the way through their strange relationship, Butcher declined to have sex with "Frank", even though Mrs Zappa – Gail – did not believe this. Gail eventually confronted Butcher with her suspicions while "researching" a book about her husband's many groupies, of whom she had been one herself. That book, never written, had been Zappa's idea. He was obsessed with groupies without musing too much on the inequality inherent in the relationships. So what the hell did this young woman think she was doing, immersing herself in this life so different from her own, and in some respects, so repulsive to her? Butcher still doesn't know. For her, it was all about "Frank" and still is. What Butcher is still pondering is this: "What was his motivation in asking me to go there?"

Butcher admits that her life in London was "pretty dull". She wore minis, and drove a Mini, but actually spent little time doing anything other than working hard as a typist and as an instructor at the modelling school she'd attended, teaching credulous, hopeful girls like herself, girls without quite enough beauty to make it in modelling, whatever instruction they purchased. Certainly Butcher hoped that she would get "a break" from her association with someone who was famous. She nurtured her own ambitions to be a writer even then, ambitions that Zappa encouraged. But she was also intensely devoted to Zappa. "I was besotted with him. I was aware that he was something unusual. I don't think I was in love with him. I agree with his ideas about romantic love, that it was overplayed."

Butcher also believes that Zappa wasn't really "like" the life that he lived. "Underneath it he was a very conventional character. I couldn't have done it with the others around at that time – Rod Stewart, Jeff Beck, those crazy people, who took drugs." Drug-taking, notably, was something that Zappa could not tolerate.

In the world of rock biography, fandom is exploited heavily. Pretty much anyone who can lay claim to some level of articulacy, and who has a modicum of provenance to offer, can find a publisher for their musings. When Butcher sent out her proposal, she received 12 expressions of enthusiastic interest right away. But Butcher's book is of wider interest. Sure, it describes a formative time in the life of an innovative musical artist, which Zappa most certainly was. But it also captures a particularly intense experience of a very brief, yet enormously influential, period in the evolution of western womanhood. Butcher worked for Zappa during the interstitial time between "sexual liberation" and "women's liberation". Zappa was a sexual libertarian and enthusiastic celebrant of "groupie culture", while his straight, conservative secretary was shocked and appalled by the sexual incontinence all around her, and the tensions in their relationship are instructive.

Butcher herself, rather charmingly, is almost entirely lacking in the desire to subject her observations to interpretive analysis, although she writes in huge detail, drawing on the numerous long letters she sent back home to England. "I was so ga-ga, at first, so shocked … I just observed it all and I loved writing home to my family, telling them every detail of it all."

But gradually she began to experience moments of clarity. When Butcher heard one of the "Mothers" – the members of Zappa's backing band, the Mothers of Invention – say he felt sorry for one groupie because she had been with three different musicians on consecutive nights, she became irritated, since the men who behaved that way were congratulated for "scoring". Or as she says, with understatement: "I began to notice the double-standard."

Butcher was upset when Zappa did not see her point of view. Something clicked in her mind when she saw feminist campaigners in the news. "I saw a banner that said: 'Love me less, respect me more.' And I just thought: 'Yes. That's it.'" Butcher read Kate Millett's Sexual Politics, which came as a revelation to her, as it did to many women at that time. Excitedly, she told Zappa what she had realised. "I thought he'd be sympathetic, but he wasn't, completely the opposite."

From there on in, developments conspired to fragment the group that had lived in the Log Cabin. Butcher herself says: "I didn't want to spend my life devoted to him. I found that people were only interested in my connection with Frank, and not in me. Once I left Frank, I never mentioned him again for years."

Butcher returned to England, went to Cambridge and did a psychology degree, married a fellow student, and began teaching. But when her husband moved from teaching to banking, and they had a son, she gave up her career for a second time. Bereft when her son left home and went to university, she decided to pick up her youthful ambition again, and write. She soon worked out that even after all those years, it was Zappa whom people were interested in. Butcher sees the irony: "The only story I could write that no one else could write was this one, about living and working with Frank Zappa."

She spent four decades trying, but Pauline Butcher couldn't quite shake her belief in Zappa, and his power to add glamour and interest to her life. In that respect, it's a sad story, this story, of the one who didn't, in the end, get away. But in other respects, the ending is happy. Pauline Butcher, the hopeful young woman who wanted to achieve something special and unique, finally did get her wish.

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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby Brigit » Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:52 pm

This is completely worth posting! Thank you Seamus OBlimey!
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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby PufPuf93 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:27 pm

This a portion of a Dragnet episode that refers to Laurel Canyon, LSD, and Freak Out circa late 60s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0zgIzqg ... re=related

I discovered Dave's writings prior to RI.

Zappa has brought me great pleasure and a thoughtfulness.

I first saw Zappa in 68 at Eureka Municipal Hall. I saw Zappa shows at Fillmore West, Winterland, and Berkeley Community Theatre in multiples. I saw Zappa at Circle Star with Tom Waites. The last time I saw Zappa was in a orchestra and ballet of puppets at UC Berkeley's Zellerbach Auditorium as a Cal grad student in the mid 80s.
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sing a simple song

Postby IanEye » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:03 am

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"Nothing is more agreeable and ornamental than good music."



brothers & the whities
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police & their backers
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beware, be aware of the handshake

that hides the snake

eye'm telling you beware

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beware of the pat on the back

it just might hold you back

Jealousy - Misery - Envy


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they smile in your face
all the time they want to take your place
back stabbers




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lord what we gonna do
if everything eye say is true


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this ain't no way it ought to be
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but everybody keeps saying don't worry
they say don't worry


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the truth is in the eyes

'cause the eyes don't lie
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a smile is just 
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"Bear in mind that these bands were all engaged in a show band contest in 1971 and 1972.
And the winners of the that contest would then be able to tour Europe, and would also record an LP in the Armed Forces Network studios in Frankfurt.
So this was a very viable way to avoid active duty in Southeast Asia."


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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby American Dream » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:26 pm




"There's this guy from the CIA he's creeping around Laurel Canyon"...
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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby The Consul » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:16 pm

Tripping introduced to the supposedly Suzy Creamcheese while the looking for Cousin Jimmy not wanting to be part of any scene because in the end all is ruled by the big Phony. Only because we had liberated more than 20,000 hits of orange sunshine from an evidence locker somewhere in the treasure state. Gary said he knew the CIA guy since he could recognize them since his brother was basically one of them having gone from the Montana smoke jumpers to do the secret war in Laos with the Hmong and it was his bogus pokus in Amsterdam during some big protest against the fascist or was it the communists when he blabbed the wrong thing to the wrong plant. He told me that when I looked in the mirror and recognized my face but not my skin that it was natural as was when I recognized my personality but rejected my identity.

But Cousin Jimmy had said he had found a way out from revelations made at the Round River experiment that included time travel and conscious transmigration through the proper reading of John Milton’s “Samson Agonistes hah hah”. Everything was insane everything was coming off the hook but what was being revealed beside the hideous nature of civilized hierarchy was the possibility of something else which the Big Phony caught on to right away. Cousin Jimmy said elevating rock and roll over jazz was the first step in the crush of the revolution and that he himself had foiled the plot to assassinate Herbert Marcuse.

I was with him and KL when they threw all those guns and boom boom off the Aurora Bridge and KL predicted crips crack and bloods splish splash bath of blood. And as they fell and splunked to the same place where the only leaper who had ever survived (a catholic nun of the Blessed Virgin Mary) he said, ‘don’t trust anyone who says it’s all about the music, cause it isn’t, it fucking isn’t.’

Looking back I don’t think she was really Creamy SiouxCheese and we never so much as unloaded anything as we simply lost it, you know, we let it go since everything dissolves along the way.

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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby American Dream » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:48 pm

Diggin' it.









Smokejumpers?

Do tell...
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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby D.R. » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:16 pm

For what it's worth, here's what I learned about the smoke jumpers while I was writing a series involving Evergreen Aviation which operated out of McMinnville Oregon and Marana Az.

When the CIA needed a ready-made air transport outfit for the secret war in Laos they went to a Forest Service smoke jumper program in Montana.
The guys were gung-ho adventure seekers, college educated, in top shape and experts at low-level drops of cargo and men. Additionally, they already had the cover of a government agency.

In the '80's-90's the Forest Service also laundered C-130 aircraft out of military service for use as fire-retardant airtankers. Many actually went into secret operations by CIA contractors.
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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby American Dream » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:59 pm

D.R. wrote:For what it's worth, here's what I learned about the smoke jumpers while I was writing a series involving Evergreen Aviation which operated out of McMinnville Oregon and Marana Az.

When the CIA needed a ready-made air transport outfit for the secret war in Laos they went to a Forest Service smoke jumper program in Montana.
The guys were gung-ho adventure seekers, college educated, in top shape and experts at low-level drops of cargo and men. Additionally, they already had the cover of a government agency.

In the '80's-90's the Forest Service also laundered C-130 aircraft out of military service for use as fire-retardant airtankers. Many actually went into secret operations by CIA contractors.


Yeah- I have had an eye out for smokejumpers due to a curiosity about a smokejumper veteran named Willi Unsoeld who is known for making a historic ascent up the Western Slope of Mt. Everest in 1963. Accompanying him on the small expedition was Tom Hornbein a physician who did research for the US Office of Naval Research (frequent vehicle for spooky biomedical research) and who was somehow relieved of his military research obligations long enough to participate.

Willi Unsoeld was Peace Corps director for Nepal in the 60's- a time when a significant covert war against China was being waged from there, using the Tibetans as a weapon. There was also a major effort afoot at that time to plant nuclear powered observation devices high in the Himalayas which could detect Chinese nuclear tests in the plains beyond.

One of those devices was- after numerous efforts planted in that same period on the (sacred) Himalayan mountain Nanda Devi, which somehow effed up and ended up poisoning the headwaters of the Ganges River with radiation and trashing the mountain-goddess, long sacred to people of this area.

Willi Unsoeld- known as a far out nature mystic- had named his daughter Nanda Devi after this same mountain and in 1976 that daughter lost her life on that very same mountain, due in part to Willi's hubris in pushing an expedition when it should not have gone forward.

So this is where my interest in smokejumpers comes in, and given the fact that Wili Unsoeld is well known for his interest in the mystical side of life in the 60's and 70's, but also may have had some kind of spooky ties, there is a general sort of tie-in to the Laurel Canyon current...

Willi himself died on Mt. Ranier in 1979, in another expedition gone bad.
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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby 82_28 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:33 pm

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I've got a whole bunch more to sift through, but have to run to work at the moment. Anyways, thanks for that info, AD!
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Re: Laurel Canyon

Postby The Consul » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:53 pm

D.R. wrote:For what it's worth, here's what I learned about the smoke jumpers while I was writing a series involving Evergreen Aviation which operated out of McMinnville Oregon and Marana Az.

When the CIA needed a ready-made air transport outfit for the secret war in Laos they went to a Forest Service smoke jumper program in Montana.
The guys were gung-ho adventure seekers, college educated, in top shape and experts at low-level drops of cargo and men. Additionally, they already had the cover of a government agency.

In the '80's-90's the Forest Service also laundered C-130 aircraft out of military service for use as fire-retardant airtankers. Many actually went into secret operations by CIA contractors.


My guy lied as a 16 yr old to jump into Gates of the Montain fire and within a relatively short time was a persona non grata in Laos. Interesting people at his funeral, Hmong, retired spec force brass, a couple of people nobody knew who didn't speack to anybody, and a few guys who were with him "out there". His wife, who knew he had many secrets and was not just making a life "buying and selling timber" whispered in my ear "I half expected these vet guys, I knew he wasn't just a supply captain in Viet Nam. But what did he have to do with those Arab guys in the corner?"
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