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[LilyPatToo]

Welcome, Michael I hope you get as much out of RI as I have and I'm glad to see that, despite your scary sleep problem, you have a thick enough skin to hang out here.

Just a couple of thoughts about your predictive dream stats: I don't know about most folks, but I rarely recall my dreams these days. Not sure if that's due to aging or to something else, but I'm lucky to recall even a few fragments of dreams each week. In my 20s-30s my recall rate was much higher, but still nowhere near the numbers you posted. If true for most people, that would have a substantial effect upon your stats, right? I'm an artist, not a scientist, but just about everyone I know well (off-line) has your way of relating to the world and my own way of thinking has altered in the direction of logic over the years.

Around 1970, I took part in a private dream study, conducted by a scientist I met who was curious about evidence of precognition in dreams. No idea of the size of the study, but I remember there were some other people like me who had had a history of precognition, plus some controls who couldn't recall ever dreaming the future.

The 2nd thing that occurred to me was that each precognitive dream that I've had has felt qualitatively different from normal dreams. There was an exceptional vividness to them, not just in the colors/images, but every aspect (emotional intensity, almost hyper-realism). They were compelling in a way that an ordinary dream just isn't. Also, they often woke me up as they concluded, making my recall much better than usual. As part of the study, we were asked to immediately write down in a journal (in ink) any dream we felt was of the future (or of something happening at a distance, I think?), get someone else to read the account and sign and date the page. We then mailed the journal to the scientist. BTW, she was doing this study privately, to satisfy her own curiosity, since it would have damned her hopes of tenure if she'd published or even been known to be studying precognition to clairvoyance.

It's my opinion that ordinary dreams and precognitive or clairvoyant ones can't be lumped together--they're just too different.

Glad you found RI and I hope you and your wife have a happy Thanksgiving Day.

LilyPat

[Mike_Cherni]

So, Mike, what brings you here and now?

I'm not sure. Probably a combination of things. One of them is certainly anger.

What is it that possesses you to basically not say anything, but post a bunch of personal info on yourself?

I think I'm just laying the groundwork for what comes next. I want there to be no doubt that I am who I say I am.

How did Sheldrake contact you for your dreamline?

He put out an ad, requesting responses.

What are your impressions of him?

So far, they are very brief snapshots.

He is a perfect gentleman, a lovey man, truly, but before I was in contact with him, no one I knew took him seriously.

Indeed, quite the opposite was true: he was spoken of with unconcealed contempt and derision.

My opinion, based on this brief—and undoubtedly rushed—judgement is that it is quite possible that Mr Sheldrake is a True Believer, and thus, quite impressionable.

Are you a forensic scientist?

No, but, due to my wife's body of work, I was sometimes surround by such people at dinners, conferences, etc.

What is the milieu of yourself and those who have quoted you like?

I'm sorry, but I don't believe that I understand the question. Would you mind terribly rephrasing it for me? My apologies, I'm likely just dense.



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Dr's seemed offensively unconcerned, one of them telling me if I lost 20 pounds my neck would shrink and the problem would probably go away.

He also shrugged off the fear of dying, saying that once I was unconscious from lack of air, that my breathing passages would simply open up and I would breath again, and that is how people who drown get water in their lungs, breathing in the water involuntarily after they lose consciousness.

This was cold comfort.

It was also bullsh*t, imho.

But i could be wrong.

Charming. Perhaps we can all chip in and buy the good doctor an old dog to kick around for the holidays.

Weird thing is that the onset of these night terrors coincided with my life sliding seriously downhill. I have no explanation for this except that perhaps I killed a LOT of brain cells all those times when I couldn't breath and that somehow that affected my entire universe in some inexplicable ways.

And life continues to suck in several key ways.

Yes, I agree. When you don't sleep, you can move through your life with your eyes shut wide open, so to speak.

You often can't separate the dream from the dreamer, at least I couldn't.

There were times when I was like that man looking in the mirror and seeing the back of his own head in the Rene Magritte painting: I didn't know if I was dreaming that I was awake, or vice-versa.

my god, that got me thinking . . . there must be at least 25 trillion human farts each year, no wonder everyone is in such a foul mood

I will call Al Gore on the hotline, as I'm sure he will want to stovepipe this information directly to the President. Can you give me a precise formula as to how you arrvied at exactly 25 trillion, and not 25 trillion, 300 billion, 150 million, 250 thousand, one hundred twenty five?

each precognitive dream that I've had has felt qualitatively different from normal dreams. There was an exceptional vividness to them, not just in the colors/images, but every aspect (emotional intensity, almost hyper-realism). They were compelling in a way that an ordinary dream just isn't. Also, they often woke me up as they concluded, making my recall much better than usual.

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Your post is my experience, verbatim.

These are dreams of what I would term as "Push", that is to say, you didn't invite these "Vivid Dreams" into your sleep, as might happen if you went to sleep working on a rather vexing problem, and asked your mind to come up with the answer during the time you slept.

No, these dreams are quite different that ordinary dreams.

At least, that has been my experience, anecdotal as it is.

Glad you found RI and I hope you and your wife have a happy Thanksgiving Day.

Thank you, LilyPat.

I believe that if we survive the initial crush that is Black Friday in NYC, we'll be fine.

roc

[freemason9]

my god, that got me thinking . . . there must be at least 25 trillion human farts each year, no wonder everyone is in such a foul mood

I will call Al Gore on the hotline, as I'm sure he will want to stovepipe this information directly to the President. Can you give me a precise formula as to how you arrvied at exactly 25 trillion, and not 25 trillion, 300 billion, 150 million, 250 thousand, one hundred twenty five?

Nope, can't give you a formula. If I recall correctly, I may have been talking out of my ass.

[Nordic]

I think I know what you mean, Mike. I have clairvoyant episodes in my life, utterly out of my control (unfortunately), and I can tell a real one by the way it feels to be coming from outside of me. Hard to explain, but we all have those "what if" thoughts all the time. Sometimes I have them hit me and I wonder if its a real clairvoyant thought or not, and I go back and think about how it hit me. If it comes from inside my own body, I know its just my brain that cooked it up, but when there's this sensation, barely discernable, that it actually comes into my head from outside of my body I know its a real one.

It can be difficult to tell them apart because they feel the same once they're in my head. The clairvoyant ones usually strike me as odd because they're usually out of the blue and there seems to be no rational reason for them, but a neurotic fear can feel the same way. But the neurotic fears come from inside me and not from outside.

One of the great things about RI is that we can actually talk about such things.

[elfismiles]

Howdy and Welcome Mike!

I'm a fan of Sheldrake's but am always interested in hearing valid criticism.

I look forward to hearing more from you around here.

So, are you familiar with Dean Radin and other research avenues in parapsychology?

- SMiles

[crikkett]

I've been haunted by very vivid and bizarre dreams since I put my dog down and was able to sleep through the night. Well, ish. The dreams wake me. It's not even been two weeks so I wonder if they'll subside once I 'catch up'.

BTW I know people who use medical marijuana for dreamless sleep. At least, they're not remembered.
It also tends to reduce blood pressure and ease anxiety. But I'm sure you've already tried that, Mike. You certainly wouldn't want to admit to using it under your real name.

Welcome.

[Mike_Cherni]

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If I recall correctly, I may have been talking out of my ass.

No problem, freemason. My remark was just my poor attempt at being playful.


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It can be difficult to tell them apart because they feel the same once they're in my head. The clairvoyant ones usually strike me as odd because they're usually out of the blue and there seems to be no rational reason for them, but a neurotic fear can feel the same way. But the neurotic fears come from inside me and not from outside.

Yes, separating the signal from the noise can be difficult for me.

For example for the last four years or so, I have consistently dreamed that I sleep on the ice, just above lake vostok.

Sometimes the signal is crystal clear, 5 x 5, even if it's meaning is completely obscure.

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[Harvey]

...just above lake vostok.

Sometimes the signal is crystal clear, 5 x 5, even if it's meaning is completely obscure.

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As well as a large million year old freshwater lake stranded in the ice sheet, Lake Vostok boasts a distinct magnetic anomaly.

I'm very curious, what else?

[bardobailey]

Either cleverbot is back, or Hugh is playing a joke.

[Mike_Cherni]

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I was wondering when someone would ask a very valid question:

Either cleverbot is back, or Hugh is playing a joke.

If I were seeing myself on this board, bardobailey's healthy skepticism would likely mirror my own.


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But the thing is, I'm telling the truth.

I am exactly who I say I am.

Tonight, if the documents can be found, I hope to begin to prove what I say, and to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I hope to post some very basic documentation by 11:00 p.m. EST.


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Sorry for the spotty posting, but I feel the need to think this post through carefully, and not take a misstep if I can avoid one.

Thanking all of you for your generous indulgence, I remain,

Sincerely Yours,

Michael A. Cherni
340 W 28
9D
New York, N.Y. 10001
mcherni@rcn.com
(212) 627-9217

[Mike_Cherni]

I have scanned the first document, but my RCN server won't accept it.

I am using FlashFXP, and the document is in gif format, 1,154 KB.

The document DPI is 200 dpi.

Is there a recommended way to UL images here, or a particular hosting site that is preferred?

[crikkett]

You can learn how to attach an image to a message. I'm not sure about size limits.

You can create a dropbox account and place the document in the "public" folder. It's free and each dropbox account is granted 250MB to start.
http://dropbox.com

You can also create a google docs account and upload the doc, then grant public permissions.
http://docs.google.com << you'd need a google account first, so this is still free but more of a hassle.

I think dropbox is more convenient and there's less of a learning curve. What say all you others?

[justdrew]

I have scanned the first document, but my RCN server won't accept it.

I am using FlashFXP, and the document is in gif format, 1,154 KB.

The document DPI is 200 dpi.

Is there a recommended way to UL images here, or a particular hosting site that is preferred?

scan them to PDFs would be better and more standard. just make sure it's set for highres, your scanner software should be able to save as PDF directly, much better (and smaller) format for multipage things.

[Nordic]

Mike, why are you so hell-bent on proving you're you?

I don't get it.

I doubt anybody here really cares one way or another. I mean, you stay here a while, you can reveal as much as you want, people either believe you or they don't .......

[82_28]

Yeah. With all due respect, spit it out Mike. People who join up here, I'm sure you understand, that don't contribute to any other thread other than the one they started kinda are looked at askance. This holds particularly true with your bold entrance of including all of your personal details when you introduced yourself. You needn't be so enigmatic.