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Harvey wrote:Did anyone catch last nights Dr Who? Spoiler:I've enjoyed the show on and off over the years but the Steven Moffit penned episode yesterday was exceptional, did he just single handedly re-invent the whole show while taking it back to it's roots?
(A bit like the recent Star Trek movie, I'd lost all interest decades ago. I watched it with a friend against my will, but even I had to admit that the last movie was a brilliantly achieved re-invention of a tired and flagging franchise.)
There were some great ideas as you might expect given the quality of the recent series as a whole since the BBC re-discovered The Doctor. Last night however there was a thematic and psychological depth which hasn't really been there before in the show, if ever. And the visuals, humour and story were all first rate. An unexpected pleasure.
Hope this isn't off topic, I'll delete the post if there are objections.
[NPR Audience Survey's] Top 100 Science-Fiction, Fantasy Books [Minus the Ones I Have Not Read]
Key
F=Fantasy or otherwise not SF, on the wrong list.
OIMTE=One Is More Than Enough. (Sword of Shannara? Really?)
August 11, 2011
1. The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy, by J.R.R. Tolkien (F)
2. The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, by Douglas Adams
3. Ender's Game, by Orson Scott Card
4. The Dune Chronicles, by Frank Herbert [When did some marketing heinie pin a group title on the Dune books? Before or after the elder Herbert died?]
6. 1984, by George Orwell
7. Fahrenheit 451, by Ray Bradbury
8. The Foundation Trilogy, by Isaac Asimov
9. Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley
13. Animal Farm, by George Orwell (F / animal parable)
14. Neuromancer, by William Gibson
15. Watchmen, by Alan Moore
16. I, Robot, by Isaac Asimov
17. Stranger In A Strange Land, by Robert Heinlein
19. Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut
20. Frankenstein, by Mary Shelley
21. Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?, by Philip K. Dick
22. The Handmaid's Tale, by Margaret Atwood
24. 2001: A Space Odyssey, by Arthur C. Clarke
25. The Stand, by Stephen King
27. The Martian Chronicles, by Ray Bradbury
28. Cat's Cradle, by Kurt Vonnegut
29. The Sandman Series, by Neil Gaiman (F)
30. A Clockwork Orange, by Anthony Burgess
31. Starship Troopers, by Robert Heinlein (the movie was better & more truthful)
33. Dragonflight, by Anne McCaffrey (OIMTE, are you kidding me?!) (F)
34. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, by Robert Heinlein
35. A Canticle For Leibowitz, by Walter M. Miller
36. The Time Machine, by H.G. Wells
37. 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, by Jules Verne
38. Flowers For Algernon, by Daniel Keys
39. The War Of The Worlds, by H.G. Wells
45. The Left Hand Of Darkness, by Ursula K. LeGuin
46. The Silmarillion, by J.R.R. Tolkien (F)
50. Contact, by Carl Sagan
58. The Chronicles Of Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever, by Stephen R. Donaldson (OIMTE) (F)
63. The Road, by Cormac McCarthy
67. The Shannara Trilogy, by Terry Brooks (OIMTE, I despair) (F)
72. A Journey To The Center Of The Earth, by Jules Verne
78. The Dispossessed, by Ursula K. LeGuin
79. Something Wicked This Way Comes, by Ray Bradbury
91. The Illustrated Man, by Ray Bradbury
Top 20 Actual SF Books On the NPR List That I've Read
Not Including "1984" and "Brave New World" or the "F" Books
1 (4). Dune, by Frank Herbert. (Just fucking Dune. You're going to pretend anyone can top that?! I liked a lot about the first couple of follow-up books, before I'd had enough.)
2 (8). The Foundation Trilogy, by Isaac Asimov
3 (78). The Dispossessed, by Ursula K. LeGuin
4 (35). A Canticle For Leibowitz, by Walter M. Miller
5 (34). The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, by Robert Heinlein
6 (20). Frankenstein, by Mary Shelley
7 (19). Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut
8 (21). Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?, by Philip K. Dick
9 (22). The Handmaid's Tale, by Margaret Atwood
10 (28). Cat's Cradle, by Kurt Vonnegut
11 (25). The Stand, by Stephen King
12 (50). Contact, by Carl Sagan
13 (15). Watchmen, by Alan Moore
14 (3). Ender's Game, by Orson Scott Card
15 (30). A Clockwork Orange, by Anthony Burgess
16 (14). Neuromancer, by William Gibson
17 (2). The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, by Douglas Adams
18 (27). The Martian Chronicles, by Ray Bradbury
19 (36). The Time Machine, by H.G. Wells
20 (17). Stranger In A Strange Land, by Robert Heinlein
Ten Great SF Books I've Read That Are Not On the NPR List
Off the Top of My Head, So There
Samuel Delaney, Dhalgren
Marge Piercy, Woman On The Edge of Time
Marge Piercy, City of Glass (a.k.a. He, She and It)
Mary Shelley, Frankenstein
Robert Silverberg, The Masks of Time
Alfred Bester, The Stars My Destination
Thomas Disch, Camp Concentration
Charlotte Perkins Gilman, Herland
Jack Vance, The Best of Jack Vance (story collection)
James Blish, Cities in Flight
JackRiddler wrote:We also omit 1984 and Brave New World as books everyone here should have read already, because they made history far more than any of the others, regardless of artistic merit (1984 is the better novel of the two). As we know, they are like handbooks to the modern world - thankfully not exhaustive! (In those terms, Fahrenheit 451 is a very distant third to the those two.)
We also omit 1984 and Brave New World as books everyone here should have read already, because they made history far more than any of the others, regardless of artistic merit (1984 is the better novel of the two). As we know, they are like handbooks to the modern world - thankfully not exhaustive! (In those terms, Fahrenheit 451 is a very distant third to the those two.)
But if you haven't read Philip Dick (how did you end up at RI without doing so?) you should read the "Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch" and "Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said."
justdrew wrote:for sheer Dickishness, I recommend: Dr. Boodmoney, Lies, Inc. and Simulacra
(not that everything else mentioned aren't good too)
Great Lives Series 26
Philip K Dick
Next on: Tomorrow, 16:30 on BBC Radio 4
Actor Michael Sheen (Frost/Nixon; The Queen; Midnight in Paris) explores the life of Philip K. Dick with Matthew Parris, and explains why he had such a big influence on his recent production of Hamlet.
Michael first discovered Philip K. Dick through the film Bladerunner, and moved onto his short stories which got him thinking about science-fiction in a new way. Whilst reading about philosophy, quantum physics, and comparative mythology, it struck him how Dick was intuitively weaving narratives around all the most interesting elements that these fields were throwing up.
He talks about Philip K. Dick's innate interest in multiples realities, and how they overlap with Sheen's own family experiences of mental health issues. In fact the more he found out about him, the more he was drawn to this enigmatic writer.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b017wyyc
Hammer wrote: might add to this later but for now I am just going to list some of the authors that I have most enjoyed or learnt from;
J R R Tolkien
C S Lewis
Ray Bradbury
Isaac Asimov
Roger Zelazney
Fritz Lieber
Gary Gygax
Stan Lee
Grant Morrison
Pat Mills
Stephen Donaldson
Frank Herbert
Ursula K Le Guin
Michael Moorcock
Douglas Adams
I wonder who else I might put, I made up that quick list off the top of my head.
Twilight was about them as they crept back to the lane. The West wind was sighing in the branches. Leaves were whispering. Soon the road began to fall gently but steadily into the dusk. A star came out above the trees in the darkening East before them. They went abreast and in step, to keep up their spirits. After a time, as the stars grew thicker and brighter, the feeling of disquiet left them, and they no longer listened for the sound of hoofs. They began to hum softly, as hobbits have a way of doing as they walk along, especially when they are drawing near to home at night. With most hobbits it is a supper-song or a bed-song; but these hobbits hummed a walking-song (though not, of course, without any mention of supper and bed). Bilbo Baggins had made the words, to a tune that was as old as the hills, and taught it to Frodo as they walked in the lanes of the Water-valley and talked about Adventure.Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!
Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!
Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!
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