Hauptmann Murdered by Lindbergh

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Hauptmann Murdered by Lindbergh

Postby sunny » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:58 pm

I was reminded of this subject by a line in the thread 'The Christian Mafia'.

The home of German admirer Charles Lindbergh (and the crime scene for a Nazi conspiracy to kidnap and murder his son)


Later, the article states that FDR believed Lindbergh to be a Nazi. That is almost certainly the case. However, there is no evidence that I have seen that Nazi's conspired to kidnap and murder Baby Lindberg.

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Not sure where this theory comes from?

The best book I have read on the subject is Crime of the Century: The Lindbergh Kidnapping Hoax This book lays out the most plausible theory of the crime I have seen-and it makes Lindbergh look like the cruel, cold, calculating, sadistic Nazi we all intuit him to be.

Basically the book presents evidence of Lindberghs lifetime predilection for sadistic pranks, including hiding his son in dark closets to make his wife think the child had been kidnapped. He once put kerosene in the water pitcher of a roommate. Lindbergh forbade his wife to check on their toddler after 8 pm-the authors posit that Lindbergh fetched a ladder and, taking his child out the window, dropped him and killed him.

As we all know, Lindbergh literally ran the investigation that followed. Combined with his national hero status, is it any wonder he was never a suspect?

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Charles A. Lindbergh, American Nazi, killed Bruno Richard Hauptmann as surely as if he had pulled the switch himself. He was a despicable, reprehensible human being and his name deserves to be reviled in history, and Hauptmann deserves not only exoneration but plaudits for his bravery and dignity in the face of a deliberate and successful assault upon his life and liberty. Any remaining Hauptmann's should be compensated directly from the coffers of the Lindbergh family.

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Read some of Anne Morrow Lindbergh's writings. I think she knew.

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Postby Jeff » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:52 pm

Thanks sunny. I didn't know about those heinous pranks.

What a monster. Woody Guthrie was on to him. (Lyrics pulled from the kidnapping hoax site you linked.)

Mister Charlie Lindbergh, he flew to old Berlin,
Got 'im a big Iron Cross, and he flew right back again
To Washington, Washington.

Missus Charlie Lindbergh, she come dressed in red,
Said: "I'd like to sleep in that pretty White House bed
In Washington, Washington."

Lindy said to Annie: "We'll get there by and by,
But we'll have to split the bed up with Wheeler, Clark, and Nye
In Washington, Washington."

Hitler wrote to Lindy, said "Do your very worst,"
Lindy started an outfit that he called America First
In Washington, Washington.

All around the country, Lindbergh he did fly,
Gasoline was paid for by Hoover, Clark, and Nye
In Washington, Washington.

Lindy said to Hoover: "We'll do the same as France:
Make a deal with Hitler, and then we'll get our chance
In Washington, Washington

Then they had a meetin', and all the Firsters come,
Come on a-walkin', they come on a-runnin',
In Washington, Washington

Yonder comes Father Coughlin, wearin' the silver chain,
Cash on his stomach and Hitler on the brain.
In Washington, Washington

Mister John L. Lewis would sit and straddle a fence,
His daughter signed with Lindbergh, and we ain't seen her since
In Washington, Washington

Hitler said to Lindy: "Stall 'em all you can,
Gonna bomb Pearl Harbor with the help of old Japan."
In Washington, Washington

Then on a December mornin', the bombs come from Japan,
Wake Island and Pearl Harbor, kill fifteen hundred men.
Washington, Washington

Now Lindy tried to join the army, but they wouldn't let 'im in,
'Fraid he'd sell to Hitler a few more million men.
In Washington, Washington

So I'm a gonna tell you people: If Hitler's gonna be beat,
The common workin' people has got to take the seat
In Washington, Washington.

And I'm gonna tell you workers, 'fore you cash in your checks:
They say "America First," but they mean "America Next!"
In Washington, Washington.
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Stormin' Norman?

Postby JD » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:11 pm

Note on the kidnapping poster the name H Norman Schwarzkopf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Schwarzkopf,_Jr.

Is "Stormin' Norman" the junior to the man named on the poster?

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Re: Stormin' Norman?

Postby sunny » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:16 pm

JD wrote:Note on the kidnapping poster the name H Norman Schwarzkopf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Schwarzkopf,_Jr.

Is "Stormin' Norman" the junior to the man named on the poster?

Hmmmm.


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Postby Sepka » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:47 pm

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New Jersey and the Nazis

Postby American Dream » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:01 pm

http://www.afrocubaweb.com/assata4.htm


New Jersey and the Nazis
by Hans Wolff, August, 1998

There have been persistent reports of a Nazi subculture in the New Jersey State Police, which has long had a reputation for violence and racism. Recently, the State Police was the subject of a review article in the New York Times, which cited years of allegations and a landmark court ruling concerning their racist bias in stopping Black and Latino motorists.[1]

When the Black Liberation Army leader Assata Shakur was captured and shot in the back with her hands up by New Jersey troopers in 1973, she was under their guard for several days, as she writes in Assata: an Autobiography [2]:

Herr Hitler"When they changed shift, the two troopers would salute the sergeant. Some saluted an army salute, but others saluted like the Nazis did in Germany. They held their hands in front of them and clicked their heels. I couldn't believe it. One day one of them came in and gave me a speech about how he fought in World War II on the wrong side. He went on and on and there was no question that he believed everything he said.... Every day he gave me a speech about nazism. Sometimes other nazis would join in. I asked him if there were a lot of nazis in the state troopers, but he just laughed and kept on talking.

... I later learned that the state troopers in new jersey was started by a German, that their uniforms were patterned after some type of German uniform (very similar to the uniforms South African police wear), that they are notorious for stopping Black, Hispanic, and long-haired people on the turnpike and beating, harassing, and arresting them.

The nazis headed the harassment campaign against me. They spit in my food and turned down the thermostat in the room until it was freezing. For a while their campaign centered on keeping me from sleeping. They stamped their feet on the floor, sang songs all night, played with their guns, shouted, etc."[2]

What lies behind this grotesque experience whose details, including the songs, reveal a certain authenticity? Let's take a look.

Norman Schwarzkopf, Senior

The New Jersey State Police was founded in 1921 by Colonel Norman Schwarzkopf, Sr., who served in both world wars and was father to General Norman Schwarzkopf of Gulf War fame. While General Shalikashvili, the outgoing US Chief of Staff, is proud of his Wafen SS father, the Schwarzkopfs emmigrated to the US long before the rise of Nazism, are not known to have voiced Nazi leanings, and were a respected part of the substantial German-American community in New Jersey.

However, an important segment of the New Jersey Germans were pro-Nazi before the war and also gave safe haven to Nazis after the war. As we will see, these Nazis also included Eastern Europeans and Russians, such as the elite and largely White Russian SS VorKommando Moskau, which organized the killings of Jews and Slavs in Nazi occupied Eastern Europe and Russia. Many members of the VorKommando Moskau were resettled in New Jersey by the US Government, shepherded by such stellar figures as Richard Nixon and J. Edgar Hoover, who considered these people to be stalwart anti-communist warriors and outstanding Republican vote getters. [3]

Back to Schwarzkopf: he was the founder and the first superintendent of the N.J. State Police, and played a key role in the Lindbergh kidnapping investigation and the Hauptmann trial. A West Point graduate and WWI veteran, he organized the State Police right after WWI. He returned to military service in WWII, rising to the rank of Brigadier General. Later he served abroad and organized the police force of Iran, then an ally of the U.S. There his son, Norman Jr., formed his first impressions of the Middle East.

The police Schwarzkopf Sr. organized in Iran was the dreaded SAVAK, the Shah's brutal secret police who tortured and murdered with a free hand. A recent book, "Lifting the Veil: Life in Revolutionary Iran" by John Simpson & Tira Shubart [4], describes Schwarzkopf"s role in Iran:

'I owe my throne to God, my people, my army --and to you!' The Shah was speaking to Kermit Roosevelt, the Central Intelligence Agency representative in Tehran. ... he certainly owed his throne to the success of Operation AJAX on 19 August 1953.

Faced with a powerful constitutional threat from his prime minister and political enemy, Dr Mohammed Mossadeq, the Shah briefly lost his nerve and fled the country when the soldiers sent to arrest his prime minister were overpowered and captured.

Kermit Roosevelt's book (Countercoup: The Struggle for the Control of Iran, reissued in 1979 [5]), together with recently declassified documents, have revealed further details about the coup. Using money that had been brought into Iran a few months earlier by General Norman Schwarzkopf, Senior, Roosevelt set about buying the support he needed. Bribing key officers in the police and army, and organizing partisan crowds from the bazaar with the help of British intelligence agents, he instructed them to attack mosques and pull down statues of the Shah while shouting slogans in support of Mossadeq.

Two weeks later, Roosevelt used the same crowd of soldiers and bazaaris to demonstrate their revulsion against such 'communist' action. Obediently, they demanded Mossadeq's overthrow and chanted slogans in favour of the Shah. Meanwhile the Imperial guards attacked the prime minister's house, killing around three hundred of his supporters.

General Zahedi, who had been chosen by the Americans and the British to take over from Mossadeq as prime minister, waited in the safety of the American Embassy until the fighting ended. Then he made a suitably triumphant appearance on a Sherman tank. The Shah, his courage and his throne restored, flew back to Tehran to crowds of thousands of cheering demonstrators. It was one of the most cost-efficient operations the United States ever conducted in Iran: a mere $100,000 was needed to bribe the crowd and the security forces, and the remainder of the million dollars which General Schwarzkopf had brought into the country was not required." [4]

First Shwarzkopf Sr. acted as bag man to help overthrow the elected Iranian government, then he trained the Shah's feared secret police, the SAVAK. His memory is revered among New Jersey state troopers and his son continues to come celebrate anniversaries of the organization's founding.

The German community in New Jersey

The Schwarzkopfs, whose name literally means "black head" in German, were part of a German community that was already thriving in 1920s New Jersey and continues to do so today. There are no fewer than 33 German cultural clubs listed in New Jersey in Cynthia Zorn's comprehensive web site: http://mars.superlink.net/czorn. Some of the clubs go back to the 20's.

In the years prior to World War II, when Nazism was on the rise, the New York - New Jersey area had a strong pro-Nazi organization called the German American Bund. They had a camp in northern New Jersey which was the scene of some large rallies:

Herr Hitler "In 1937, the German-American Bund Auxiliary purchased approximately 200 acres and several buildings near Lake Iliff in Andover Township. On July 18, 1937, Camp Nordland opened with a parade of 500 "bundists" and a beer blast consisting of kegs of predominately German beer. The camp received the immediate attention and opposition of local farmers, the Anti-Nazi League, and local law enforcement.

One of several metropolitan area facilities, the Camp's purpose was to cultivate the political loyalty of German-Americans in light of the ongoing events in Germany and in the rest of Europe in the days leading to World War II. An estimated 1000 German-American residents from New York City and surrounding areas arrived at Nordland every weekend to participate in political rallies, speeches, and German fun.

One particularly noteworthy event held at Camp Nordland was an "Americanism" rally, allegedly conducted in conjunction with the Ku Klux Klan, that attracted an estimated crowd of 50,000 persons. Although the KKK publicly stressed their opposition to movements of an alien origin, they could not resist the temptation of sharing in the purse of this well attended event." [6]

This New Jersey propensity towards supporting the Nazi cause continues today. We have the recent case of Hans Schmidt who was arrested by the German police for Nazi propaganda. The Hans Schmidt Defense Committee is listed in Green Brook, New Jersey. [7] New Jersey continues to harbor both Nazi and Klan meetings while in New Jersey jails, the Aryan Brotherhood and the Aryan Sisterhood have the run of various facilities. If a prisoner is a problem, prison authorities can easily shunt him or her to cell blocks controlled by these organizations and appropriate measures will be taken.


Standard Oil of New Jersey: Exxon’s role in the rise of Nazism

Standard Oil of New Jersey, which later renamed itself Esso, then Exxon, was a major player in the foreign support of Nazi Germany from the 30's all the way into 1942. [8]

At the eve of World War II, the major stockholder in Standard Oil after the Rockerfellers was I.G. Farben, the German chemical combine, a major financial backer of Hitler and later heavily involved in using slave labor from the concentration camps. This investment was part of a pattern of reciprocal investments between the US and Germany during the Nazi years, in the midst of the Great Depression. Germany was viewed as a hot investment area.

One area of support Standard Oil provided was in tetraethyl lead, which was used in aviation gasoline. The Nazi air force "couldn't fly without it. "Only Standard, Du Pont, and General Motors had rights to it." Walter C. Teagle, president of Standard Oil of New Jersey (the largest petroleum corporation in the world in 1941), "helped to organize a sale of the precious substance" in 1938, 500 tons, from Ethyl, a British Standard subsidiary, to Hermann Schmitz of I.G. Farben, a large German chemical firm and major financial backer of Hitler. Then in 1939, "Schmitz and his partners returned to London and obtained $15 million worth." [9]

After the war started in Europe and the British were angry about U.S. shipments to Nazi Germany, Standard Oil "changed the registration of the entire fleet to Panamanian to avoid British seizure or search. His vessels carried oil to Tenerife in the Canary Islands, where they refueled and siphoned oil to German tankers for shipment to Hamburg." [10]

On March 31, 1941, "the State Department stepped into the picture with a detailed report on refueling stations in Mexico and Central and South America that were suspected of furnishing oil to Italian or German merchant vessels now in port. Among those fueling enemy ships were Standard Oil of New Jersey and California. There is no record of any action being taken on this matter." [11]

We need more information on Standard Oil's role in New Jersey and how that developed over time. An international company, New Jersey was their back yard and Standard Oil execs could well have been among the good Republicans who were involved in bringing the Nazis in after World War II. In fact, Nelson Rockefeller was heavily involved in getting Nazis to freedom and covering up their escape after World War II. [12]

Standard Oil New Jersey participated in many quite complex schemes to aid and abet the enemy during World War II, of which we can only offer a limited glimpse here.


The Republicans bring the Nazis to the US

Allen Dulles was attorney for Standard Oil and IG Farben as well as for a number of Americans investing in the Nazis. Dulles had as protege one Richard Nixon... The web they wove is complex and the best thing is to read some of the books that have painstakingly documented this in great detail after much research with primary material obtained through the Freedom of Information Act and many interviews.

A sample of this kind of history is recounted by John Loftus and Mark Aaron in their book, The Secret War Against the Jews: "According to several of our sources among the 'old spies,' Richard Nixon's political career began in 1945, when he was the navy officer temporarily assigned to review . . . captured Nazi documents." The documents revealed the wartime record of Karl Blessing, "former Reichsbank officer and then head of the Nazi oil cartel, Kontinentale Ol A.G. 'Konti' was in partnership with [Allen] Dulles's principal Nazi client, I.G. Farben. Both companies had despicable records regarding their treatment of Jews during the Holocaust. After the war Dulles not only 'lost' Blessings' Nazi party records, but he helped peddle a false biography in the ever-gullible New York Times."

Not only did Dulles help cover up his Nazi client's record, he "personally vouched for Blessing as an anti-Nazi in order to protect continued control of German oil interests in the Middle East. Blessing's Konti was the Nazi link to Ibn Saud [King of Saudi Arabia] and Aramco [the Arabian- American Oil Company]. If Blessing went down, he could have taken a lot of people with him, including Allen Dulles. The cover-up worked, except that U.S. Naval Intelligence scrutinized a set of the captured Konti records."

Dulles made a deal with the navy officer who was reviewing the Konti files - Richard Nixon. For Nixon's help in burying the Konti files, Dulles "arranged to finance [Nixon's] first congressional campaign against Jerry Voorhis." [13]

Dulles's support for Nixon was rewarded in 1947 when, as the freshman congressman from California, he "saved John Foster Dulles considerable embarrassment by privately pointing out that confidential government files showed that one of Foster's foundation employees, Alger Hiss, was allegedly a Communist. The Dulles brothers took Nixon under their wing and escorted him on a tour of Fascist 'freedom fighter' operations in Germany, apparently in anticipation that the young congressman would be useful after Dewey became president." [14]

After Truman's victory, "Nixon became Allen Dulles's mouthpiece in Congress. Both he and Senator Joseph McCarthy received volumes of classified information to support the charge that the Truman administration was filled with 'pinkos.' When McCarthy went too far in his Communist investigations, it was Nixon who worked with his next-door neighbor, CIA director Bedell Smith, to steer the investigations away from the intelligence community.

"The CIA was grateful for Nixon's assistance, but did not know the reason for it. Dulles had been recruiting Nazis under the cover of the State Department's Office of Policy Coordination, whose chief, Frank Wisner, had systematically recruited the Eastern European emigre networks that had worked first for the SS, then the British, and finally Dulles.

"The CIA did not know it, but Dulles was bringing them to the United States less for intelligence purposes than for political advantage. The Nazis' job quickly became to get out the vote for the Republicans. One Israeli intelligence officer joked that when Dulles used the phrase 'Never Again,' he was not talking about the Holocaust but about Dewey's narrow loss to Truman. In the eyes of the Israelis, Allen Dulles was the demon who infected Western intelligence with Nazi recruits.

"In preparation for the 1952 Eisenhower-Nixon campaign, the Republicans formed an Ethnic Division, which, to put it bluntly, recruited the 'displaced Fascists' who arrived in the United States after World War II. Like similar migrant organizations in several Western countries, the Ethnic Division attracted a significant number of Central and Eastern European Nazis, who had been recruited by the SS as political and police leaders during the Holocaust. These Fascist emigres supported the Eisenhower-Nixon 'liberation' policy as the quickest means of getting back into power in their former homelands and made a significant contribution 'in its first operation (1951/1952).'"

Nazi hunters Loftus and Aarons point out that "over the years the Democrats had acquired one or two Nazis of their own, such as Tscherim Soobzokov, a former member of the Caucasian SS who worked as a party boss in New Jersey. But in 90 percent of the cases, the members of Hitler's political organization went to the Republicans. In fact, from the very beginning, the word had been put around among Eastern European Nazis that Dulles and Nixon were the men to see, especially if you were a rich Fascist . . ." [15]

Nixon and Dulles "blamed Governor Dewey's razor-thin loss to Truman in the 1948 presidential election on the Jewish vote. When he became Eisenhower's vice president in 1952, Nixon was determined to build his own ethnic base." A base covering many nationalities who could help the Republicans win votes, such as the Croatians and the Russians.

"The foreign language-speaking Croatian and other Fascist emigre groups had a ready-made network for contacting and mobilizing the Eastern European ethnic bloc. There is a very high correlation between CIA domestic subsidies to Fascist 'freedom fighters' during the 1950s and the leadership of the Republican party's ethnic campaign groups. The motive for under-the-table financing was clear: Nixon used Nazis to offset the Jewish vote for the Democrats.

"In 1952 Nixon had formed an Ethnic Division within the Republican National Committee. 'Displaced Fascists, hoping to be returned to power by an Eisenhower-Nixon "liberation" policy signed on' with the committee. In 1953, when Republicans were in office, the immigration laws were changed to admit Nazis, even members of the SS. They flooded into the country. Nixon himself oversaw the new immigration program. As vice president, he even received Eastern European Fascists in the White House. After a long, long journey, the Croatian Nazis had found a new home in the United States, where they reestablished their networks.

"In 1968 Nixon promised that if he won the presidential election, he would create a permanent ethnic council within the Republican party. Previously the Ethnic Division was allowed to surface only during presidential campaigns. Nixon's promise was carried out after the 1972 election, during [George] Bush's tenure as chairman of the Republican National Committee. The Croatian Ustashis became an integral part of the campaign structure of Republican politics, along with several other Fascist organizations." [16]

Nixon was strongly pro-Nazi: "Nixon himself personally recruited ex-Nazis for his 1968 presidential campaign. Moreover, Vice President Nixon became the point man for the Eisenhower administration on covert operations and personally supervised Allen Dulles's projects while Ike was ill in 1956 and 1957." [17]

The Republicans' attraction to Nazism was also observed by Robert J. Groden and Harrison Edward Livingstone, authors of the book, "High Treason," dealing with the Kennedy Assassination. Groden and Livingstone write: "Nixon surrounded himself with what was known as the Berlin Wall, a long succession of advisors with Germanic names: We recall at the top of his 'German General Staff' as it was also known, Haldeman, Erlichman, Krogh, Kliendienst, Kissinger (the Rockefellers' emissary) and many others.

"The selection of German names was no accident. Many of the brighter staff people close to Nixon came to him from the University of Southern California, and the University of California at Los Angeles, where there were fraternities that kept alive the vision of a new Reich. America has for a long time harbored this dark side of its character, one of violence and the Valhalla of Wagner and Hitler.

"But Gordon Liddy was the one in whose mind 'Triumph of the Will' was the most alive. Some of these men would watch the great Nazi propaganda films in the basement of the White House until all hours of the night, and drink, in fact, get drunk with their power, with blind ambition, as one of them wrote." [18]

"According to several of our sources in the intelligence community who were in a position to know," continue Loftus and Aarons, "the secret rosters of the Republican party's Nationalities Council read like a Who's Who of Fascist fugitives. The Republican's Nazi connection is the darkest secret of the Republican leadership. The rosters will never be disclosed to the public...the Fascist connection is too widespread for damage control.

According to a 1988 study by Russ Bellant of Political Research Associates in Cambridge, Massachusetts, virtually all of the Fascist organizations of World War II opened up a Republican party front group during the Nixon administration. The level of the Republican ethnic leaders can be gauged by a New Jersey man, Emanuel Jasiuk, a notorious mass murderer from what is today called the independent nation of Belarus, formerly part of the Soviet Union. But not all American ethnic communities are represented in the GOP's Ethnic Heritage Council section; there are no black or Jewish heritage groups. . . .Bellant has written a comprehensive study of this phenomenon, well worth a look. [19]

Even before the break-in at the Democratic Party Headquarters on June 17, 1972, the Republicans were on the brink of having their pro-Nazi activities over the past four decades come out in the mass-media. After the Watergate break-in, as the Congressional Hearings began to reveal the slush-funds, money-laundering, illegal corporate campaign contributions, the political sabotage of the 1972 Presidential election process, and many other aspects of Nixonism, the floodgates of truth were about to open. Only one thing averted: Nixon's resignation and his pardon by his successor Gerald Ford.


South River, New Jersey: VorKommando Moskau’s new home

One of the most brutal groups ever to settle in New Jersey since the English killed the Indians was the VorKommando Moskau, originally formed by the SS as they advanced into Eastern Europe and recruited White Russians fleeing their homeland. "VorKommando Moskau was an elite forward unit of SS intelligence on the Soviet front. Its primary mission was anti-Communist intelligence, but it was also responsible for security screening of the occupied populations in the broad sector of the Eastern Front... VorKommando Moskau did not kill the Jews. [Or the Slavs, who were also slaughtered in large numbers.] It hired the collaborators, who recruited the executioners, who killed the Jews. From 1940 to 1942 this one small unit acted as an employment agency for the architects of the Nazi genocide in Eastern Europe." They primarily hired Eastern Europeans. [20]

During his tenure as Nazi hunter in the Justice Department, John Loftus discovered how the White Russians in the VorKommando Moskau were heavily recruited by the US government to fight the Soviets and how all documentation of their Nazi past was well hidden from prying eyes. "Many of the White Russian Nazis had been resettled en masse in the town of South River, New Jersey." [21] Allen Dulles and Bill Casey, who was later Reagan’s CIA director, resettled most of the Vorkommando Moskau’s elite leadership group in the New York - New Jersey area. [22] In April, 1998 it was discovered that Casey sought for and received a dispensation from the Justice Department so that CIA officers would not have to reveal drug trafficking on the part of their contract workers and this 6 months before large scale trafficking began in support of the Nicaraguan Contras. Casey was an old pro at sanitizing the unmentionable.

In 1950, the FBI "recruited every White Russian Nazi it could find in the New York - New Jersey area." When in the 60’s a New York reporter, Charles Allen, began his accusations that Nazis were living in the US, the FBI investigated him and labeled him a Russian pawn. [23] It would be interesting to find out about the role of these Nazis in Hoover’s COINTELPRO operations against the Black Panthers and others.

Given the massive settlement of Nazis in New Jersey, it would not at all be surprising if some number of them found their way into the State Police. After all, police work was what they were professionally suited for, what they had done for years prior to coming to the US. We can also expect the Nazis to have found jobs as corrections officers in a prison system which has shown itself remarkably tolerant of the Aryan Brotherhood and Sisterhood.


The New Jersey State Police’s war on Blacks and Latinos

In an article appearing in the New York Times on Sunday, May 10, 1998 entitled "Van Shooting Revives Charges of Racial 'Profiling' by N.J. State Police," journalist John Kifner talks about how "The furor over an incident in which two New Jersey State Police officers fired 11 shots into a van during a traffic stop comes against a backdrop of years of allegations that troopers in New Jersey have illegally used race-based profiles to stop black and Hispanic drivers in hope of making drug arrests."

As the article discussed, this case is related to a court case that led a Superior Court judge to conclude in 1996 that the New Jersey State Police had a policy of "selective enforcement" by "targeting blacks for investigation and arrest."

The article describes the findings of the 1996 trial:

"The ruling followed one of the state's longest evidentiary hearings -- six months of testimony and 200 exhibits, many of them statistical surveys of drivers and traffic stops on the southernmost 26-mile stretch of the New Jersey Turnpike. Judge Robert Francis found that troopers looking for drug suspects had pulled over an inordinate number of black drivers over a three-year period simply because of their race.

The survey first determined that some 98 percent of all the drivers along the stretch of the turnpike were going over the speed limit of 55 miles per hour, giving the police latitude to stop virtually anybody. The survey found that while 13.5 percent of the drivers on the stretch of highway were black, 46 percent of those halted by the police over a 40-month period were black.

"They were pulling over blacks out of all proportion to the population of the turnpike," said Fred Last, a public defender who helped design the survey. Francis agreed, saying: "The statistical disparities are indeed stark." He added that the "utter failure" of police commanders to monitor the arrests or "investigate the many claims of institutional discrimination, manifests its indifference if not acceptance."

One striking result of the survey, both the judge and Lamberth noted, was that troopers using radar tended to stop black drivers at near their rate in the highway population, while the troopers on road patrol cruising without radar, who could more freely choose who to stop, arrested far more blacks.

"As they got more discretion, they stopped more blacks," Lamberth said. "It is a telling argument that they are profiling. They get promoted on the basis of the number of arrests they make, and there is the general mythology that blacks are more likely than whites to have contraband." [1]

The New Jersey State Police’s war on Assata Shakur

Assata Shakur is a Black Panther and Black Liberation Army leader who was captured after a shoot-out on the New Jersey Turnpike in 1973. Forensic evidence revealed that she was shot in the back with her hands up. Killed in the shoot-out were Zayed Malik Shakur and Voerner Foerster, a New Jersey trooper of German extraction. A paraffin test revealed that she had not fired a weapon.

First the troopers debated finishing her off at the road side, but they thought she was going to die anyway. When she didn’t, they tortured her, hitting her in her wound with their gun-butts. This is a classic Gestapo tactic, according to a member of a French Resistance family who reviewed the case for us. (For an interesting summary of Nazi behavior towards blacks in Germany, see a review of Hitler's Forgotten Victims by David Okuefuna and Moise Shewa.)

After railroading Assata and convicting her of the murder of Foerster, the New Jersey State Police was demoralized and dismayed when she escaped in 1979. They became obsessed with her recapture, as has come out in countless testimony, such as this letter from a New Jersey State employee:

"I felt it should be known of the hatred that is programmed by the New Jersey State Police Academy to the new Troopers. They are programmed Assata is the number ONE criminal, and should be apprehended at all cost. I am a New Jersey State Employee, I just happen to be in [a medical setting] one day, I was advising a [campus] Police Officer of Assata's Book, informing him of some of its positive contents.

Unknown to me at that particular time there was a N.J. State Trooper in our presence just about two feet around a corner. The trooper just happen to hear our conversation regarding my positive feelings on the book. [Later], my partner ask me what did I do the that particular State Trooper, I asked my partner what did he mean by the question, he in turn went on to explain the Trooper confronted him ... and told him I had a serious problem, and had better watch myself, I can possibly get myself into serious trouble with my attitude. Keep in mind the only problem I had was to mention to a Police Officer who happened to be black of the very positive content of book, in which a N.J. Trooper just happened to be at ear distance.

I did everything to maintain my cool, a Sgt.Trooper who happened to be black heard our conversation, he ask me what was the debate about and I went on to explain to him of the trooper hearing my conversation about the book. He stated the trooper was totally wrong but that’s the way they are programmed.

For some reason I had to get this out, this happened approximately two years ago. I saw the hatred in this particular trooper eyes, the trooper couldn't have been any older than 24 years of age, but the rage of anger and hatred was glaring deeply into my soul. "

In addition, we have reports that the New Jersey troopers are still looking for Assata on the New Jersey Turnpike, despite the fact that she left the country over a decade ago. Every barracks has a wanted poster of Assata on the walls. They have arrested a number of innocent black women drivers, including a civil rights attorney, claiming that they are wanted for murder.

Finally, in their obsession, the State Police wrote a letter to the Pope in December, 1997, asking His Holiness to intervene with Fidel Castro during his visit to Cuba, where Assata Shakur has found refuge. It is a letter one observer likens to "something an inmate in a back ward would do out of the depth of his delusional state." The letter succeeded in raising the visibility of Shakur’s situation, and now Republican Governor Christie has gotten into the act by increasing the reward for bringing in Shakur to $50,000. This reward, which has been compared to the bounty on escaped slaves, will encourage the crazies and the bounty hunters.


The Future

The author would like to appeal to those who have information bearing on these matters to make it known. We are finally beginning to understand some of the background of New Jersey law enforcement and it is important that this be aired in public and that information be reliably assembled and made available to attorneys.

Already, as a result of posting this article, we have had some interesting feedback, including this one:

"When I was training with the NJ State Police back in the early 80's I left after 10 weeks because of their Nazi Training style and the number of Nazi recruits who did not hide it even then. They were very open about their HATE and it was the main reason that I lost interest in joining. I was personally threatened by 6 of them when I was alone and was told that they would be watching for me on the Highways.

So I know you are telling the Truth.

Peace!!!"

We encourage more folks to come forward with their testimony.

The books cited in this article are part of a sizeable literature on this subject, yet many people remain unaware. The literature is the result of careful research and deserves to be integrated into the teaching of history. The impact of this history continues through us and we have to deal with that not by denying and ignoring it but by bringing out all the implications.

Republican Rep Bob Franks and Republican Governor Christie Whitman need to be aware that issuing a $50,000 reward for bounty hunters in the case of Assata Shakur only perpetuates the grotesque and shameful past of their party in New Jersey. Ironically, Gov Whitman has been shunned by the traditionally Republican "fox-hunting" set in New Jersey as she lowered taxes, which resulted in an increase in real estate taxes to compensate for lost revenue. This stung the rich land owners. She then turned to other constituents, such as the Nazi tinged law and order crowd and the Cuban American extreme right. The Cuban Americans are a varied community but they have been hijacked in New Jersey and Miami by a CIA sponsored leadership with extreme right wing tendencies which hark back to Franco’s Falangist party. Whitman is thus reviving the old war-time alliance between the Nazis and Franco’s Spain. Is this really a recipe for the future?

This article is dedicated to the memory of my ancestors who fought the Nazis.
(c) 1998 by Hans Wolff.

Footnotes

[1]"Van Shooting Revives Charges of Racial 'Profiling' by N.J. State Police," by John Kifner, New York Times, Sunday, May 10, 1998

[2] Assata: An Autobiography by Assata Shakur, Lawrence Hill Books, Chicago Review Press, Inc., Chicago IL, ISBN 0-55652-074-3 Put cursor on image or click for pricing & to buy ==> Amazon.com

[3] The Secret War against the Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People by John Loftus and Mark Aaron, St. Martin's Griffin, NY, 1994, ISBN 0-312-15648-0 Put cursor on image or click for pricing & to buy ==> Amazon.com

[4] Lifting the Veil: Life in Revolutionary Iran by John Simpson & Tira Shubart, Hodder & Stoughton, London, 1995

[5] Countercoup: The Struggle for the Control of Iran, by Kermit Roosevelt, reissued in 1979

[6] See http://www.sussexcounty.com/campnord.htm and Wunderlich's Salute by Marvin D. Miller, Malamud-Rose Publishers, 1983.

[7] The Spotlight, August 28, 1995, September 4, 1995 and Smith's Report Number 26, September 1995 (a pro-Nazi publication).

[8] Trading With The Enemy : An Expose of the Nazi-American Money Plot,1933-1949 by Charles Higham, Dell, NY, 1983
Put cursor on image or click for pricing & to buy ==> Amazon.com

[9] Ibid, pp 53-55

[10] Ibid, p 56

[11] Ibid, p 58

[12] The Secret War against the Jews, pp166-170

[13] Ibid. p 221

[14] Ibid. pp 221-222

[15] Ibid., pp 222-223

[16] Ibid., pp 122-123

[17] Ibid., pp 224-225

[18] High Treason, by Robert J. Groden and Harrison Edward Livingstone, pp. 417-418

[19] Old Nazis, the New Right and the Reagan Administration: The Role of Domestic Fascists Networks in the Republican Party and their Effects on U.S. Cold War Politics, monograph by Russ Bellant, Political Research Associates, Cambridge MA
An excellent, very well researched monograph. Must have. Put cursor on image or click for pricing & to buy ==> Amazon.com

[20] The Secret War against the Jews, pp 496-497

[21] Ibid., pp 505-506

[22] Ibid., pp 506

[23] Ibid., pp 508-509

Bibliography

See an interesting series of articles by Robert Lederman for several analyses of the pervasive effects of the US - Nazi alliance at http://Baltech.org/lederman/

Robert Lederman is an artist, a regular columnist for the Greenwich Village Gazette, The Shadow, The African Sun Times, The Vigo-Examiner, and Street News, and is the author of hundreds of published essays concerning Mayor Rudolph Giuliani. Lederman has been falsely arrested 41 times to date (10/10/00) for his anti-Giuliani activities and has never been convicted of any of the charges. He is best known for creating hundreds of paintings of Mayor Giuliani as a Hitler like dictator.

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Postby sunny » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:05 pm

Sepka wrote:How do they account for the marked bills, and for the housemaid committing suicide?


"THE FISCH STORY"

On December 5, 1933, during his farewell party, Hauptmann's business partner, Isidor Fisch, left Hauptmann with a shoebox of "important papers" before sailing to Leipzig to visit relatives.

Hauptmann claimed he had been given this box, wrapped in brown paper and tied with string, and had put it on a high shelf in a closet.

Fisch had applied for a passport on May 12, 1932 the same day the baby's body was discovered.

He sailed on December 6, 1933. Hauptmann told Police he had anticipated Fisch's return because he had $7,000 of Hauptmann's money.

The Knickerbocker Pie Company stock certificate in Fisch's name (submitted by Siglinde Rach)

Fisch died of tuberculosis on March 29, 1934, (the 13th of Nissan) in Leipzig at Klinikum St Georg. He never returned to America and Hauptmann told Police he had believed his savings were lost forever.

Until he discovered the shoebox.

Hauptmann also claimed he had made the discovery of the money while cleaning the closet in which a leaky roof made the shoe box fall apart. He recovered more money - $14,600 - than what he was owed by Fisch. He took his findings to the garage since the bills were wet from the leaking closet. He began to dry the bills and hide them behind some wooden boards in his garage. He figured that since he was owed $7,000 it was okay for him to keep the money for his family. This sequence of events, told by Hauptmann throughout the trial, was dubbed by police and reporters as "The Fisch Story."

On March 1, he said, he had been with his wife. Every Tuesday he went to Christian Fredericksen's bakery on Dyer Avenue, Bronx, where his wife worked. He ate dinner there and took her home at nine. They then went to bed so they could rise early the next morning.

The police also questioned where Hauptmann had been on April 2, the day John met Dr. Condon in the cemetery. The day was a first Saturday in the month. Every first Saturday Hauptmann and his friend Hans Kloeppenburg would meet at Hauptmann's house at seven o'clock. They had what they called a musical night. They would sing German songs. Kloeppenburg played the guitar and Hauptmann the mandolin. Kloeppenburg would leave around midnight. Anna was always with them.


http://www.lindberghkidnappinghoax.com/fisch.html

The authors of the book discussed here are of the opinion that Fisch, and possibly others, seized upon the kidnapping as an opportunity to extort money from Lindbergh, and Lindbergh in turn must have viewed these efforts as manna from heaven.
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Postby sunny » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:17 pm

Violet Sharpe, housemaid of the Morrow's who committed suicide during the investigation:

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Postby Sepka » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:49 pm

Interesting. My favourite theory has long been some sort of kidnap ring headed up by Fisch, with Violet Sharpe supplying inside information, although not actually present during the kidnapping itself. Either way, I have to agree that Hauptmann had nothing to do with the kidnapping.

It does interest me that Hauptmann's first reaction upon finding the money was to hide it, and spend a little at a time. I tend to think that he probably had his suspicions about Fisch, whether kidnapper or extortionist.
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Postby sunny » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:54 pm

Sepka wrote:It does interest me that Hauptmann's first reaction upon finding the money was to hide it, and spend a little at a time. I tend to think that he probably had his suspicions about Fisch, whether kidnapper or extortionist.


From the link above, I think this may be a better explanation:

When the police first questioned Hauptmann about the money he lied. Thinking that he had been arrested for owning gold certificates that should have been exchanged for other bills, he said he had no more than what they found in his pocket. President Roosevelt's recall of all gold certificates, in May 1933, was meant to discourage Americans from hoarding gold. Hauptmann, an illegal immigrant, was afraid to admit having illegal money since he discovered this cache long after this government decree.
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Postby judasdisney » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:38 am

In the recommended book "The American Axis: Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh & The Third Reich", although it does not delve much into the Lindbergh kidnapping, nor question the official story, Lindbergh's spellbound passion for Nazism -- combined with Lindbergh's enormous popularity among Americans -- is downright chilling. Worth the read.

Noteworthy: Philip Roth's "The Plot Against America" -- a fictional "parallel universe" history of the 1940s in which Lindbergh defeats FDR and becomes a wildly popular President who takes the U.S. on a very different path.

Creepy: Reading the Amazon reader-reviews for these two books. Nazi sympathizers are a healthy, thriving breed in the U.S. today.
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Postby Sepka » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:05 pm

sunny wrote:Hauptmann, an illegal immigrant, was afraid to admit having illegal money since he discovered this cache long after this government decree. [/b]


Hauptmann had to enter the country illegally because he was on the run from the law in Germany. Among his other crimes, he'd stolen stocks and securities. Having a background in securities theft, he'd understand that the gold certificates could be laundered, which would remove any chance of his being associated with them. Perhaps he was just greedy, and didn't want to pay the moneylaunderer's fee for that. On the other paw, if he had suspicions of Fisch, he's unlikely to have taken the money to be laundered. Remember that many organized crime figures had sworn publicly to do whatever was in their power to assist the police in this case. Much of what was in their power to do was to watch for the tainted money to show up in moneylaundering operations.
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Postby sunny » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:57 pm

Thanks MinM.

Read some of Anne Morrow Lindbergh's writings. I think she knew.


I wish I could remember the details, but what I was referring to was that in the book 'Bring Me a Unicorn' [diaries and letters] Anne recounts the mysterious death or disappearance [I no longer have a copy so I can't check which] of a young woman while she was at Smith [I think]. In any case the incident coincided with a visit from Lindbergh and I got the distinct impression she unconsciously suspected Charles of the deed.
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Clint Eastwood’s Dishonest ‘J. Edgar’ | Consortiumnews
November 30, 2011

Much of the controversy around Clint Eastwood’s J. Edgar has swirled around screenwriter Lance Black’s depiction of the late FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover as a closeted gay man, since Black is a gay writer-director and most of his previous projects featured gay themes.

But even more important in any critical analysis of the movie is Eastwood’s work as director. Because that informs us about why the American film business has come to a point when a mediocre, compromised and dishonest production like this much ballyhooed film gets praised for “being candid” about one of the worst Americans of the 20th Century...

Most of the film’s 137 minute running time consists of five episodes: 1.) Hoover’s relationship with his mother; 2.) His relationship with his assistant Clyde Tolson; 3.) Hoover’s role in the World War I-era Palmer Raids; 4.) The FBI’s role in the Lindbergh child kidnapping case; 5.) The composition of a letter to Martin Luther King in which the FBI implied that he should commit suicide or else the Bureau would blackmail him about his infidelity.

The first two are personal matters of course. But before we get to them, it is interesting to explore how Black deals with the latter three since they are the incidents he uses to elucidate Hoover’s professional career...

Lindbergh Case

Let us now look at the film’s depiction of the 1932 kidnapping of Charles Lindbergh’s infant son.

As Black and Eastwood show, the local and state authorities did not want the Bureau involved. But it is also true that Hoover had the opportunity to stake out the meeting at which ransom money was exchanged for information on where the child was being held. Hoover decided not to do so. [Gentry, p. 150]

This turned out to be a mistake since the child was not at the location where the kidnapper’s said he was. He was already dead. And the decomposed body was within five miles of Lindbergh’s home. This discovery finally got the Bureau involved through the orders of the president. And shortly after Congress passed what became known as the Lindbergh Law, making kidnapping a federal offense and giving Hoover jurisdiction.

But this expansion of his authority became a problem since Hoover had great difficulty solving the case: the arrest of Bruno Hauptmann was not made for over two and a half years.

In fact, Hoover always thought that more than one person was involved and that there was likely an inside agent as part of the plot. Hoover first suspected for this role the baby’s nursemaid, Betty Gow, who was the last person to see the infant in the crib and the first to discover his absence. [Lloyd C. Gardner, The Case that Never Dies, p. 32]

Also, unlike what the film shows, Hoover’s certainty about the guilt of Hauptmann was not close to absolute. Indeed, his agents told him that the local authorities had fiddled with the evidence.

We now know today, through the work of Anthony Scaduto in his 1977 book Scapegoat, that the prosecution had employment records in their possession that they hid from the defense that made it very difficult to believe that Hauptmann could have driven from New York City (where he was working that day) to New Jersey, the scene of the crime, at the time he was supposed to be there.

Further, the prosecutors even tampered with the start date of Hauptmann’s New York job to make it appear he was not even there on the day of the kidnapping. (For a brief overview of the case, click here)

As Curt Gentry notes, in October 1934, three months before Hauptmann’s trial began, Hoover called a press conference to announce the FBI was withdrawing from the case. [Gentry, p. 162] From then, until Hauptmann’s execution in April 1936, there was a long series of FBI memoranda marking the Bureau’s and Hoover’s doubts about the case.

Agent Leon Turrou, Hoover’s main liaison to the local authorities from the time of the indictment, called the proceedings against Hauptmann “a mockery” of a trial. For instance, one of the main witnesses used to identify the defendant was a Dr. Condon, who met in a cemetery with a man sent to collect the ransom. Yet Condon failed to pick Hauptmann out of a line-up.

And two days after, Condon told Turrou that Hauptmann was not the man he met. The man he met was much heavier, had different eyes, different hair etc. [Ibid, p. 163] Yet, by the time of the trial, someone had changed his mind and he was now positive it was Hauptmann.

Same thing with Charles Lindbergh who only heard the man’s voice in the cemetery. At first, Lindbergh said he could not positively identify the voice as Hauptmann’s. But by the time he took the stand, Lindbergh positively identified it.

A witness who placed Hauptmann near the Lindbergh home was characterized in an FBI memo as “a confirmed liar and totally unreliable.” [Ibid, p. 163]

Hoover himself doubted some of the evidence in the case. For instance as he admitted in a memo of Sept. 24, 1934 — before the trial started — the defendant’s fingerprints did not match “the latent impressions developed on the ransom notes.”

And as Lloyd Garner writes, Hauptmann’s fingerprints were not on the ladder allegedly used to climb to the infant’s window at the Lindbergh home. The local authorities then washed the ladder of all prints and failed to disclose that Hauptmann’s were not there. [Gardner, p. 344]

This is why when Lindbergh praised the FBI for its work on the case, Hoover was not thankful but indignant. [Gentry, p. 163] Of course, the FBI later concealed its doubts and made the case a hallmark of the official tour for propaganda purposes.

Eastwood and Black, again, sell the public the amended version, with both Hoover and Tolson in daily attendance at the trial, which was not the case...

If Black didn’t have an agenda, if he had been interested in who Hoover really was, what he represented, and what his pernicious impact on America really was, he would have shown us a different confrontation, such as the one that went on between Hoover and Director of Domestic Intelligence William Sullivan.

To my knowledge, Sullivan was the only man in the executive offices who ever stood up to Hoover. About a year or two before Hoover died, Sullivan wrote a series of memos criticizing Hoover’s performance as Director on issues like his gross exaggeration of the Communist threat inside the USA, his failure to hire African-American agents, and his failure to enforce civil rights laws. Sullivan also had tired of Hoover’s blackmail surveillance on presidents and began to think the Director was not of sound mind. [Summers, pgs. 397-99]

This culminated in a meeting in Hoover’s office where Sullivan said Hoover should retire. Hoover refused, and it was Sullivan who was forced out of the Bureau. Sullivan later testified before the Church Committee and gave Congress much inside information about Hoover’s illegal operations.

Sullivan once told columnist Robert Novak that if one day he would read about his death in some kind of accident, Novak should not believe it; it would be murder.

In 1977, during the re-investigations of the killings of John Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Sullivan died in New Hampshire as he was meeting with friends to go deer hunting. Another hunter, with a telescopic sight, mistook Sullivan for a deer and killed him with his rifle.

The book that Sullivan was working on about his 30 years in the FBI was then posthumously published, but reportedly in much expurgated form. He was one of six current or former FBI officials who died in a six-month period in 1977, the season of inquiry into FBI dirty deeds and FBI cover-ups of political assassinations.

If this film had ended with the Sullivan-Hoover feud, it would have told us something about both America and about Hoover. But it would have been dark and truthful. Evidently, Black and Eastwood were not interested in that.

Black’s agenda is pretty clear. Why Eastwood went along with this pastel-colored romance about a man who was a blackmailing monster is difficult to understand. But it proves again, as Pauline Kael explained decades ago, why Clint Eastwood is no artist. Artists don’t compromise. And they don’t falsify.

http://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/30/cl ... t-j-edgar/

Show #554
Original airdate: Nov 27, 2011
Guest: Jim DiEugenio, Lisa Pease, Ira David Wood III
Topics: J. Edgar, RFK, The JFK Assassination Chronology

Play Part One - Jim DiEugenio (47:18) Real Media or MP3 download

*Jim received an award from the Lancer group in Dallas, spoke about Kennedy's foreign policy, a lot of young people there
*J. Edgar, Clint Eastwood's movie, angered Jim, a falsification of the man and his history, by screenwriter Dustin Black
*Concentrates on the Palmer Raids, the Lindbergh Kidnapping case, the letter to MLK in 1963
*Thousands were arrested, without evidence, the ACLU began over this case
*Bruno Hauptmann, the Lindbergh Kidnapping, Hoover mistrusted the evidence, a mockery of justice, changed testimony
*Film has Hoover gung ho against Hauptmann, using FBI technologies to link him to the crime, falsifies Hoover's certainity

*Hoover authorized a letter trying to get King to commit suicide, film concentrates on Hoover wiretaps of King
*Prior to JFK, the FBI had no more than five 'black Agents', each served as a chauffeur or a butler for Hoover
*The FBI never enforced civil rights laws, the FBI intended to derail the entire civil rights movement
*The composite wiretaps tape and letter sent to King's wife, caused King a lot of emotional stress
*Almost none of Hoover reciting the blackmail letter is in the movie, film trys to soften the facts of Hoover's racism
*Leaves out the worst aspects of Hoover's careeer, left out key facts, an agenda, what a PR man would do for Hoover
*Clint Eastwood, has a reputation of being a serious director, 137 minutes, counted two scenes above the pedestrian
*DiCaprio, doesn't capture Hoover's stacatto speech pattern, or malevolence, Tolson is a disaster, Judi Dench
*The climax of the movie is a quarrel between Tolson and Hoover, a fist fight, a kiss, a lover's spat
*Black has an agenda to soften the image of Hoover, bring out the homosexuality, like he's a normal person
*Who Hoover really was. his pernicious impact on America, should have the fight between Hoover and William Sullivan
*William Sullivan was killed by a hunter, he was mistaken for a deer, before testifying about FBI dirty tricks
*Jim saved Len the price of admission, Len questions whether it was actually King on those tapes, may have been faked
*Hoover is a very important figure in the Kennedy case, he covered up the facts, in the assassinations of the 1960s
*Why aren't the media going after Black and Eastwood for distorting the record?, because of the Warren Commission?
*The reviews, no in-depth analysis, the movie ignores Hoover ignoring organized crime until Kennedy came into office
*Hoover put agent provocateurs in the Panthers, Fred Hampton and Mark Clark, murdered while sleeping, Geronimo Pratt

http://www.blackopradio.com/pod/black554a.mp3

Dustin Lance Black: Crafting The Story Of 'J. Edgar' : NPR

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