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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby 2012 Countdown » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:49 pm

Egypt protesters post sickening images of police brutality as election count is marred by fresh clashes on the streets
Picture shows police with sticks grab girl by the hair
Vote-counting underway in second round of parliamentary elections
Protesters attack Cabinet building with rocks and firebombs
By REBECCA SEALES
Last updated at 6:40 PM on 16th December 2011

Soldiers stormed a protest camp outside Egypt's Cabinet building today, prompting clashes with demonstrators calling for an end to military rule.
The violence came just as officials were counting votes from the second round of the country's parliamentary elections when police tried to shift demonstrators against military rule who have been camped outside it for three weeks.
Social networks played a massive part in bringing down President Mubarek in the first revolution and today a series of images were posted online by bloggers wanting to bring the world's attention to the brutality on the streets.


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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:42 am

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Bad days in Cairo and apparently Alexandria.

Caution: Following is NYT, but pretty straightforward in describing ongoing brutality of crackdown. (Plus automatic lip service to the "go home" sentiment of supposed ordinary Egyptians.) The Al-Azhar protest by Sunni scholars after the killing of a sheikh seems very significant.

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December 17, 2011
Leader Denies Use of Violence as Cairo Crackdown Persists

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

CAIRO — Egypt’s military rulers escalated a bloody crackdown on street protesters on Saturday, chasing down and beating unarmed civilians, even while the prime minister was denying in a televised news conference that security forces were using any force.

In one of the most incendiary developments, video cameras captured soldiers stripping the clothes off women they were beating on the pavement of Tahrir Square.

The contradiction in the military-led government’s statements and actions appeared to represent a shift in strategy by the military council. After trying for months to preserve some credibility and collaboration with the Egyptian political elite, the ruling generals on Saturday scarcely acknowledged the demands made by their newly appointed civilian advisory council the night before that the military cease its violence and apologize to demonstrators.

Instead, as the crackdown entered its second day, the military council appeared to be playing to those Egyptians impatient with the continuing protests and eager for a return to stability. Crowds of supporters turned out downtown on Saturday morning to cheer on the military police, hand them drinks of water and help them close off Tahrir Square from demonstrators massing to get in.

Protesters, for their part, charged that the military rulers were provoking the clashes to derail or discredit the continuing election of a new Parliament that could challenge their power. “The military council is responsible for everything that happens,” Ziad el-Elaimy, a newly elected member of Parliament who was beaten Friday by the military police, said in a television interview.

The prime minister, Kamal Ganzouri, issued his denial that the military had or would use force in a news conference on Saturday morning after more than 24 hours of street fighting in front of the military-occupied Parliament building that left 10 dead from gunshots and hundreds wounded. For most of the previous day and night, men in plain clothes, accompanied by a few in uniform, stood on top of the “people’s assembly” and hurled chunks of concrete and stone taken from inside the building down at the crowd of demonstrators several stories below. A few men in uniform were seen with them.

On Saturday morning, a parliamentary building on Tahrir Square that houses a historical archive burst into flames. It was unclear who started the blaze; the military-led government blamed the protesters, while they blamed the military.

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A protester celebrated in front of a government building on Saturday in Cairo.

Around the same time, several witnesses said, hundreds of military police officers in riot gear finally chased the demonstrators from in front of the Parliament building into Tahrir Square and then out into the side streets. They burned down a small tent city, leaving the square in flames for hours and sending a thick plume of black smoke curling over downtown.

As they charged, soldiers used clubs to beat anyone they could catch. A video shown on a private Egyptian television network in the morning showed several military police officers using batons to beat civilians as they lay on the ground of Tahrir Square, and one appeared to be unconscious.

Several videos on the Internet and Egyptian television showed soldiers tearing the clothes off women as they beat them in Tahrir Square. At least one of the women was wearing the traditional hijab veil and covering before she was stripped; she lay unmoving while a soldier lifted his boot to kick her bare midriff.


Mohamed ElBaradei, a leading liberal and former United Nations atomic energy chief, addressed a public message to the military council over the Internet: “Did you see the pictures of the military police dragging girls and stripping them of their clothes? Aren’t you ashamed? Let me remind you: justice is above power.”

Passers-by were caught up as well. A young woman getting off a bus and trying to catch a taxi to work was grabbed by soldiers and thrown to the ground, before a group of people rescued her and tucked her into a passing vehicle.

As the military police were charging the square, Mr. Ganzouri, the military-appointed prime minister and a former prime minister under the ousted president, Hosni Mubarak, was declaring at his televised news conference that the only acts of violence were arson and vandalism committed by the protesters. Contradicting the accounts of civilian witnesses, he said that soldiers had come out on Friday only to protect the Parliament and cabinet buildings.

He acknowledged several deaths from bullet wounds, but in an echo of the Mubarak government’s public relations, blamed unnamed third parties and said no one in the military had fired a weapon.

“The events taking place in the streets aren’t a revolution,” he said. “They’re an attack on the revolution.”

When a journalist asked about the widespread reports of indiscriminate beatings by military police, Mr. Ganzouri upbraided him: “Don’t repeat what you saw in media. Don’t say violence, there was no violence. What does your conscience tell you?”

In a separate statement, the military council said that the soldiers had charged into Tahrir Square in self-defense after “thugs” had shot at military officers. “We have never and we will never target the revolutionaries of Egypt,” the statement said, adding that the protests “were not met with anything except self-control until the last escalation, which compelled stopping those outlaws.”

In another statement late in the afternoon, the military rulers responded to the demands of their civilian advisory council by expressing “sorrow” over the bloody events of the previous day. The statement said the military was taking “all necessary measures” to stop the violence by building a concrete barrier dividing the protesters from the security guards protecting the Parliament and cabinet buildings. It pledged that an investigation would reveal “the reality of the situation.”

The statement, however, fell short of the apology the council had demanded. And it suggested that the military-led government had been a powerless neutral bystander during the deadly clashes of the night before, even though much of the violence directed at the demonstrators, including the rain of rocks from atop the Parliament building, had come from areas under the military’s control.

Many civilian critics of the military rulers argue that the government should be able to disperse an unruly crowd without killing people.

Elsewhere in the city, thousands turned out to mourn a religious scholar from Al Azhar, the premier center of Sunni Muslim scholarship, who was killed the day before. “Yes, we are chanting inside Al Azhar, down with military rule,” mourners intoned during a funeral procession.

The procession had swelled to several thousand by the time it reached Tahrir Square in the early evening, and its arrival swelled the crowd. “Every bullet makes us stronger,” they chanted.

The military police by then had retreated from the square to behind a newly erected barricade between the square and Parliament, but they continued to exchange volleys of rocks with protesters on the other side. After nightfall, the military police began discharging what appeared to be fireworks at the protesters as well.

There were reports that new protests against military rule had also broken out in Alexandria, Egypt’s second-largest city.

There were signs, however, that at least some Egyptians were ready to side with the military against the disruption of more protests. A call-in show on a private television station interviewed a woman with a heavily bandaged head who told the story of her beating by the military police on Friday morning. But most of the viewers who called in criticized her instead of the military, urging her to go home and stop ruining the country.

In the chaos on the downtown streets on Saturday, it was easy to overhear similar arguments. “Why are you here?” one man asked another near the burning archive.

“I feel bad for the people who were killed, I feel bad for the sheik from Al Azhar,” came the answer.

“But I can’t cross the square when I am going to work,” the first man implored. “You are delaying life.”

Mayy el Sheik and Dina Saleh Amer contributed reporting.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby 153den » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:41 pm

Hmm...I'm wondering if the "powers that be"are now moving the chess pieces in place?
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Weather Balloons » Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:41 pm

Been seeing this video making the rounds today.



Also the abridged RT version with no text or music.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:51 pm

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Using the Times as a barometer of what's getting through: a lot.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/world ... nted=print

December 18, 2011

As Clashes Continue in Egypt, a Media War Breaks Out

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

CAIRO — On the third day of clashes between security forces and protesters in the center of the capital, a new battle broke out Sunday between Egypt’s state-run and independent media over whom to blame for the violence.

Citing what they called an official campaign of distortion intended to cover up military violence, human rights advocates argued that the growing uncertainty and insecurity were undermining the first parliamentary elections since the ouster of Hosni Mubarak.

But what is really at stake in the propaganda war is the support of the public in the looming contest between a newly elected parliament and the military council over which will control the transitional government and oversee the drafting of a new constitution.

The fighting began Friday morning when military police cleared out a small sit-in left over from last month’s protests against military rule, a move that brought out crowds of new demonstrators.

After two days of a military crackdown on the demonstrators that left hundreds wounded and 10 dead — most from gunshot wounds — Egyptian state television presented news of a forensic report purporting to show that the fatal bullets were fired at close range. The presenters suggested this proved the dead demonstrators had been killed by infiltrators in their ranks, not the security forces.

Broadcasting scenes of protesters hurling stones and Molotov cocktails, a presenter declared, “These could never be Egyptians.” At other points, the station repeated a tactic from the last days of the Mubarak government by interviewing people who said that they were protesters who had been paid by liberal groups to attack the military.

Activists complained of a simultaneous crackdown on the independent news organization. One of the independent satellite channels that has sprung up since Mr. Mubarak’s exit was removed from the air twice in the last two days while it was broadcasting footage of the military attacking civilians, once after it focused on a graphic scene of soldiers beating a woman.

An apartment overlooking Tahrir Square that was used to film the clashes was raided by military police, who confiscated every camera they could find, according to occupants. And soldiers have taken or broken the cameras of several photographers detained during the three-day melee.

In contrast to the official news media, meanwhile, the new independent papers and satellite channels vented outrage at the extensive video footage of military abuses emerging over the weekend: military police severely beating prone civilians; soldiers firing handguns toward crowds; though it was unclear if they were firing live ammunition, and others ripping the clothes and headscarves off women as they pummeled and kicked them.

“Lies,” declared a front-page headline in the liberal newspaper Tahrir over a photograph of a soldier with his foot raised over the abdomen of a shirtless woman lying on the ground surrounded by troops in riot gear.

Youssef El Husseiny, a morning newscaster on the independent cable channel ONTV, appeared Sunday shorn of his mustache, which is traditionally considered a symbol of manhood here. “How can we be men, if this is done to our girls?” he asked. “If there is a man with a mustache out there, he should shave it.”

Other news media focused on the death, reportedly by a bullet to the heart, of a respected Islamic scholar who had urged a transition to civilian democracy; his portrait appeared on the back cover of Tahrir, which sold out Sunday.

Angry at the state media coverage of the violence, several state radio announcers and a few state television newscasters began using the Internet to urge listeners to call their shows in order to counter what they called a “campaign of distortions.” At least three radio announcers have been banned from the air for criticizing the ruling military council or its media management, said Ahmed Montaser, one of the state-radio dissidents.

“All the young radio broadcasters don’t approve the policies of the senior officials putting down a red line that they tell us we can’t cross,” he said. “We’re not organized in an official entity yet, but we’re trying to form something to represent us.”

The violence in Cairo comes at the midpoint in Egypt’s staggered elections for a lower house of Parliament and has already cast a shadow of the process.

Election officials said Sunday that turnout for last week’s second round of the voting had risen to 67 percent of eligible voters from just 52 percent in the first round. After the successful completion of the first round, voters appeared to grow even more confident in their conviction that their votes would count toward a parliament that, for the first time in more than six decades, would represent their views.

But the early reports in state media of the second round, covering roughly a third of Egypt, confirmed that Islamists determined to challenge the power of the military rulers would receive a strong majority of the vote.

The party founded by the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s mainstream Islamist group, was reported to have won roughly 40 percent of the vote in the second round, as it had in the first. A party founded by ultraconservative Islamists known as Salifis appeared to increase its share to about 31 percent from about 25 percent in the first round of voting by party list.

The early reports suggested that Wafd, a liberal party that was legal under Mr. Mubarak, came in third, followed by a new coalition of liberal parties known as the Egyptian Bloc that had come in third during the first round.


The polls, however, are now expected to re-open within days for runoffs to determine the results of races between individual candidates around the country. And some election monitors say the violence by the military, which is also expected to guard the polls, and the confusion sown by the conflicting news reports could raise doubts about the credibility of the results.

“I don’t give a damn about the elections,” said Ghada Shabander of the Egyptian Organization for Human Rights. “I am supposed to monitor the elections, but frankly speaking, it is not proper to have elections under such circumstances,” she said, describing “an environment of lies to cover up for extreme brutality and violence directed by an armed military against unorganized civilians.”

Election officials, however, have given no indication that they are considering postponing the rest of the vote, and the Islamists, who are the most potent political force, have a strong interest in its completion.

The crucial question, several said, is whether the images of military violence emerging in the independent media — especially the abuse of women — would sway public opinion against the military rulers, or whether the official attempts to discredit the protesters would cast doubt on the allegations against the military.

Hossam Bahgat, executive director of the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights, said the military rulers “appear to have decided that they are going to contain the protests no matter what the price,” banking on the broad popular support for the armed forces outside the Cairo elite. “These images are not going away,” he said, “and they don’t seem to care any more.”

Mayy el Sheik and Dina Saleh Amer contributed reporting.

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Postby 153den » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:38 am

Democracy in the Middle East?? A snowball in hell will have a better chance to survive.
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Postby Searcher08 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:06 am

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This picture and story has had a lot of Grade 1 exposure in the UK press - with a lot of anger towards the Eqyptian authorities because of it. A real PR disaster for the Generals regime, FWIW
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Postby beeline » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:47 pm

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Thousands of rare documents burned in Egypt clash
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CAIRO - Volunteers in white lab coats, surgical gloves and masks stood on the back of a pickup truck Monday along the banks of the Nile River in Cairo, rummaging through stacks of rare 200-year-old manuscripts that were little more than charcoal debris.

The volunteers, ranging from academic experts to appalled citizens, have spent the past two days trying to salvage what's left of some 192,000 books, journals and writings, casualties of Egypt's latest bout of violence.

Institute d'Egypte, a research center set up by Napoleon Bonaparte during France's invasion in the late 18th century, caught fire during clashes between protesters and Egypt's military over the weekend. It was home to a treasure trove of writings, most notably the handwritten 24-volume Description de l'Egypte, which began during the 1798-1801 French occupation.

The compilation, which includes 20 years of observations by more than 150 French scholars and scientists, was one of the most comprehensive descriptions of Egypt's monuments, its ancient civilization and contemporary life at the time.

The Description of Egypt is likely burned beyond repair. Its home, the two-story historic institute near Tahrir Square, is now in danger of collapsing after the roof caved in.

"The burning of such a rich building means a large part of Egyptian history has ended," the director of the institute, Mohammed al-Sharbouni, told state television over the weekend. The building was managed by a local non-governmental organization.

Al-Sharbouni said most of the contents were destroyed in the fire that raged for more than 12 hours on Saturday. Firefighters flooded the building with water, adding to the damage.

During the clashes a day earlier, parts of the parliament and a transportation authority office caught fire, but those blazes were put out quickly.

The violence erupted in Cairo Friday, when military forces guarding the Cabinet building, near the institute, cracked down on a 3-week-old sit-in to demand the country's ruling generals hand power to a civilian authority. At least 14 people have been killed.

Zein Abdel-Hady, who runs the country's main library, is leading the effort to try and save what's left of the charred manuscripts.

"This is equal to the burning of Galileo's books," Abdel-Hady said, referring to the Italian scientist whose work proposing that the earth revolved around the sun was believed to have been burned in protest in the 17th century.

Below Abdel-Hady's office, dozens of people sifted through the mounds of debris brought to the library. A man in a surgical coat carried a pile of burned paper with his arms carefully spread, as if cradling a baby.

The rescuers used newspapers to cover some partially burned books. Bulky machines vacuum-packed delicate paper.

At least 16 truckloads with around 50,000 manuscripts, some damaged beyond repair, have been moved from the sidewalks outside the U.S. Embassy and the American University in Cairo, both near the burned institute, to the main library, Abdel-Hady said.

He told The Associated Press that there is no way of knowing what has been lost for good at this stage, but the material was worth tens of millions of dollars , and in many ways simply priceless.

"I haven't slept for two days, and I cried a lot yesterday. I do not like to see a book burned," he said. "The whole of Egypt is crying."

He said that there are four other handwritten copies of the Description of Egypt. The French body of work has also been digitized and is available online.

There may have been a map of Egypt and Ethiopia, dated in 1753, that was destroyed in the fire. However, another original copy of the map is in Egypt's national library, he said. The gutted institute also housed 16th century letters and manuscripts that were bound and shelved like books.

The most accessible inventory at the moment for what was housed in the institute is in a 1920's book kept in the U.S. Library of Congress, according to William Kopycki, a regional field director with the Washington D.C.-based library. He said the body of work that was destroyed was essential for researchers of Egyptian history, Arabic studies and Egyptology.

"It's a loss of a very important institute that many scholars have visited," he said during a meeting with Abdel-Hady to evaluate the level of destruction.

What remains inside the historic building near the site of the clashes are piles of burned furniture, twisted metal and crumbled walls. A double human chain of protesters surrounded the building Monday.

At a news conference Monday, a general from the country's ruling military council said an investigation was under way to find who set the building on fire. State television aired images of men in plainclothes burning the building and dancing around the fire Saturday afternoon. Protesters also took advantage of the fire, using the institute's grounds to hurl firebombs and rocks at soldiers atop surrounding buildings.

A military colonel, helping out with rescue efforts at the library, said about 10 soldiers have been tasked with assisting the volunteers. He asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak to reporters.

Volunteer Ahmed el-Bindari said the military shoulders the brunt of responsibility for using its roof as a position to attack protesters before the fire erupted.

"When the government wants to protect something, they do," el-Bindari said. "Try to reach the Interior Ministry or Defense Ministry buildings. You won't be able to."
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby 2012 Countdown » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:59 pm

Anonymous takes down Egyptian Websites.


DECEMBER 19TH, 2011–In what appears to be a massive and carefully orchestrated DDoS attack, a dozen Egyptian government websites have been taken down. Sites ranging from the Presidential website to the bureau for Tourism have been hit.

The hacktivist group Anonymous has taken credit for the attack on at least one Brazilian Operations page. The hackers claim the attacks are in response to the brutal treatment of protesters in the country. The hashtags #Egypt #Solidarity #Anonymous #CabinCr3w were used repeatedly on twitter as the event was being reported live, followed by the familiar phrase, “Tango Down.” The phrase was used by hackers before after defacing the CIA’s website.

Footage was released yesterday that showed images of Egyptian military police firing lethal ammunition into crowds of people. Some officers chased down a woman, beating her repeatedly in the middle of the street.

Other images were released yesterday showing “Made in the USA” on teargas canisters. Several U.S. companies have received licenses from the State Department authorizing the sale of munitions to the Egyptian military. The State Department recently acknowledged that shipments of teargas had been sent to Egypt within the last two weeks. Many individuals on the Internet are calling for similar DDoS attacks against the U.S. Government. Whether or not that will happen, only Anonymous knows.

The Protesters in Egypt are demanding that the military regime that took control of the government after they ousted President Mubark, hand the state over to the people so they can begin democratic elections. The General’s involved have refused to do so now, but said they would likely agree sometime in 2012. As of today, 14 protesters had been either shot or beaten to death. Hundreds of others were reported to have been wounded.

The website menasolidaritynetwork.com/ asked yesterday for an act of solidarity on behalf of protesters around the world.

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Postby JackRiddler » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:46 pm


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December 19, 2011

A Year Later
From Arab Spring to Sunni Spring?


by PATRICK COCKBURN

A year ago the popular anger that grew into the Arab Spring was first ignited by an impoverished Tunisian fruit and vegetable seller, Mohamed Bouazizi, who set fire to himself after his cart, his sole means of feeding his family, was confiscated by police. Within days, pictures of protests in his home town sparked by his death were being watched by millions of Tunisians on the internet and satellite TV, and the police state that had ruled their country for so long had begun to crumble.

Twelve months later, the forward march of the Arab Spring movements remains unpredictable. Three autocratic regimes in North Africa have fallen – Tunisia, Egypt and Libya – but it is unclear what will replace them. Three regimes east of Egypt remain embattled – Syria, Yemen and Bahrain – and are likely to be unstable for a long time to come.

It is becoming clear that the Arab world and the wider Middle East are facing a period of prolonged struggles for power that have not been witnessed since the 1960s. Some factors in the uprisings are common to all these insurrections – such as the decrepitude and corruption of the police states – but in other ways each country is distinct. In Libya, for instance, Gaddafi was defeated primarily by massive Nato intervention, so the anti-Gaddafi militias may not be strong enough to replace him. The conflict in Yemen has become a peculiar three-cornered fight between an authoritarian government, pro-democracy protesters and dissident, unsavoury political barons from within the elite.

The indeterminate outcomes reflect the fact that the protest movements in all countries have been coalitions of disparate elements. Islamists rubbed shoulders with secularists. Human rights lawyers made common cause with jihadis who had fought in Afghanistan. Such coalitions could scarcely have come together in the 1990s, when Islamists believed they could seize power on their own, and liberals and secularists were more frightened of fanatical Islam than they were of their dictatorial rulers.

Other fissures are opening within the dissident movement. “The Arab Spring is turning into the Islamic Spring,” a politician in Baghdad told me. He might have added that, for many Shia, it is looking ominously like a “Sunni Spring”, in which the Sunni take over in Damascus and the Shia are crushed in Bahrain.

In this sea of uncertainties some trends are becoming visible. The Arab world as a whole is for the moment weaker than it has been for a long time. But the Americans are not in a position to secure their position as the hegemonic power in the region because of their military failures in Iraq and Afghanistan, their economic crisis and their support for Israel. Israel nervously looks forward to the fall of the Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria, but knows it will swap a known opponent for an unknown and possibly more dangerous successor. Worse, from the Israeli point of view, the past three years have seen Turkey and Egypt, the two most powerful states aside from itself in the region, cease to be its allies and become increasingly hostile. This is far more menacing for Israel than any overblown threat from Iran.

Will Turkey fill the power vacuum? Other powers, Western and Middle Eastern, are eager for the Turks to play a leading role in displacing Assad or balancing Iranian influence in Iraq because, in the words of the old saying, “it is a great job for somebody – somebody else”.

Looking back over the past year, the demise of so many of these police states has a spurious inevitability about it. Many had come to power in the 1960s or early 1970s in military coups with nationalist credentials. In Egypt, of course, the coup came much earlier, in 1952, in reaction to residual British imperial control and defeat by Israel. It is often forgotten today that these regimes were once able to justify their rule by creating powerful state machines, establishing national unity, or, as in the case of Libya and Iraq, nationalizing the oil industry and forcing up the price of oil.

But by about 1975 these military regimes had transmuted into police states, their ruling families monopolizing political and economic power. By the 1990s such rulers as the Mubaraks, Gaddafis and Ben Alis had become purely parasitic, their shift to neoliberal free market economics opening the door for crony capitalism exploiting local monopolies, whether it was luxury car imports in Tunisia or cigarettes in Iraq.

Much guff has been written about how the age of the internet and Facebook made the fall of these regimes just a matter of time. Like most influential misconceptions, there is a nugget of truth in this. Twenty years ago, Bouazizi’s defiant gesture and the protests that followed might not have been known to the rest of Tunisia because the government controlled the media. These days, state monopoly of information no longer exists.

Authoritarian governments in the Middle East relied on fear to hold power. But they were caught unaware when the beatings and killings they used to create this terror were made public on the internet and YouTube and provoked, rather than deterred, dissent. Thus, when the Syrian army crushed the Sunni uprising in Hama in 1982, killing an estimated 20,000 people, I saw no pictures of a single body or execution. Contrast this with Syria today, when almost every act of state violence is placed on YouTube within hours of it happening.

What changed in 2011 was not that beatings, torture and killings no longer instilled fear, but that governments now have to pay a much higher political price for using such methods. The internet was important in this, but what really transformed the rules of the game were the Arabic satellite channels, notably al-Jazeera. Only 7 per cent of the Libyan population had access to the internet, but availability of satellite TV was general. It was this breaking of the state monopoly of information that has been so crucial in weakening despotism in the Middle East. It is permanently shifting the balance of power from the palaces of the rulers to the people in the streets.


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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Hammer of Los » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:49 pm

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PatrickCockburn wrote:Much guff has been written about how the age of the internet and Facebook made the fall of these regimes just a matter of time. Like most influential misconceptions, there is a nugget of truth in this. Twenty years ago, Bouazizi’s defiant gesture and the protests that followed might not have been known to the rest of Tunisia because the government controlled the media. These days, state monopoly of information no longer exists.

Authoritarian governments in the Middle East relied on fear to hold power. But they were caught unaware when the beatings and killings they used to create this terror were made public on the internet and YouTube and provoked, rather than deterred, dissent. Thus, when the Syrian army crushed the Sunni uprising in Hama in 1982, killing an estimated 20,000 people, I saw no pictures of a single body or execution. Contrast this with Syria today, when almost every act of state violence is placed on YouTube within hours of it happening.


I've always said the internet would be our salvation.

It's just one of those funny feelings I get.

Darpa created the internet.

Always hoist by their own petards are they. They know not the kamma damma.

Remember the 911 stargate?

I shall never forget it. That is for sure.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:14 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/world ... .html?_r=1

Mass March by Cairo Women in Protest Over Abuse by Soldiers
CAIRO — Several thousand women demanding the end of military rule marched through downtown Cairo on Tuesday evening in an extraordinary expression of anger over images of soldiers beating, stripping and kicking female demonstrators in Tahrir Square.

“Drag me, strip me, my brothers’ blood will cover me!” they chanted. “Where is the field marshal?” they demanded of the top military officer, Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi. “The girls of Egypt are here.”

Historians called the event the biggest women’s demonstration in modern Egyptian history, the most significant since a 1919 march against British colonialism inaugurated women’s activism here, and a rarity in the Arab world. It also added a new and unexpected wave of protesters opposing the ruling military council’s efforts to retain power and its tactics for suppressing public discontent.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Allegro » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:37 am

^^ Great article, Twyla! Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Follows are closing paragraphs from page 2.

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At the same news conference, a veteran female journalist who reports on the military stood up to ask the general for an apology to Egyptian women. “Or the next revolution will be a women’s revolution for real,” the journalist warned. The general tried to interrupt her — he said the military had learned of a new plan to attack the Parliament — and then he brushed off her request.

Many Egyptian women said later that they were outraged by his response.

When core activists called for a march Tuesday evening to protest the military’s treatment of women — organizers on Twitter used the hash tag “#BlueBra” — few could have expected the magnitude of the response.

ImageThe crowd seemed to grow at each step as the women marched, calling up to the apartment buildings lining the streets to urge others to join them. “Come down, come down,” they shouted in an echo of the protests that led to Mr. Mubarak’s ouster in February.

“If you don’t leave your house today to confront the militias of Tantawi, you will leave your house tomorrow so they can rape your daughter,” one sign declared.

“I am here because of our girls who were stripped in the street,” said Sohir Mahmoud, 50, a homemaker who said she was demonstrating for the first time.

“Men are not going to cover your flesh, so we will,” she told a younger woman. “We have to come down and call for our rights. Nobody is going to call for our rights for us.”

Along the sidewalks beside the march, some men came out to gawk and stare. Others chanted along with the women, “Freedom, freedom.”

“I came so that girls are not stripped in the streets again,” said Afa Helal, 67, who was also demonstrating for the first time, “and because my daughters are always going to Tahrir. The army is supposed to protect the girls, not strip them!”
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:10 am

153den wrote:Democracy in the Middle East?? A snowball in hell will have a better chance to survive.


Fuck you. We will have it because we are willing to fight and die for it. And because the generals your government is relying on to keep us down are not only geriatric, corrupt traitors but utterly incompetent and stupid beyond belief, because you killed or purged the best from among them. Their actions and words expose some of them as utterly deranged, as they must be, to sink to such depths. The revolution may not have guns and tanks and poison gas, but we have all the smartest and best and sanest people, the youth (over 65% of the Egyptian population), creativity, heroism, and bottomless rage on our side.

The "street thug" who set fire to the Institut d'Egypte has been identified dressed in military fatigues in another photo taken days earlier, dragging a female protester by her hair. Protesters risked their lives going into the burning building to rescue the books. They saved at least 25,000 titles. The "Description d'Egypte" has been reported intact, all 24 volumes of it. The Institut, among other vital documents, housed priceless maps that were crucial in successfully proving Egypt's claim to Taba, which was occupied by Israel from 1967 until 1982. One of the curators of the Institut claims that she has knowledge that some of the documents have been smuggled out of the country. She also points out that when another fire broke out in another library, several years ago, certain documents related to the distribution of Nile waters disappeared, and that shortly afterward, several Nile Basin countries, backed by Israel, launched a plot to drastically reduce Egypt's access to Nile waters. Coincidence?

I'm currently too overwhelmed to write any more, but this letter has been circulating on the net and it expresses some of what I feel:

Thank You, Mr Tantawy

Hassan Elsawaf


I would like to extend my profound thanks to Messrs Tantawy and Co, Egypt’s military rulers. No, I have not switched sides, nor have I lost my head. I am dead serious.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for opening the eyes of a people who were being deceived by a dirty plot.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for exposing the myth of the army being on the side of the revolution. Not even your most loyal backers can now claim that the generals are helping the people or have ever been serious in a single promise made to them.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for shifting our attention away from the farcical elections you believed would lull us into a trance. Now we realise why you rushed the fraudulent elections and made certain they were free of any violence.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for exposing the deal you made with extreme Muslim forces as your allies and, as el-Aswany said, your political wing.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for treating the female protesters with such ferocity and indecency. It tells us all we need to know of how you think.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for allowing us to see through your definitions; decent revolutionaries are not thugs, women chanting against you are not prostitutes; young protesters are not delinquent street children.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for treating the protesters in a way the whole world will see as totally unjustifiable, no matter what you claim they did.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for killing a good priest [in fact, they murdered a good sheikh, shot him right through the heart, not a priest - Alice]. It is an act that is a crime and that, through the silence of your MB/Salafi allies, drags them into the conspiracy with you.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for burning our buildings and destroying our heritage. It shows us that Nero must be your idol.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for making sure Salafis and MB elements were conspicuously absent from the ranks of the protesters. Now, it will be far easier for us to identify our true enemies and deal with the scumbags the way they deserve.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for reigniting the passion of the crowds to rise again and not be fooled.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for explaining to the people that you are no different form Assad and Qaddafi.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for making us understand that you are our only enemy and that, once you are gone, your religious remnants will be far easier to deal with.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for reminding us how naive we were to believe that a regime would shoot itself in the foot and hand power over voluntarily. Now, we are aware that you will not go unless we force you out.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for pointing us in the right direction and allowing us to avoid making the mistake of moving the head of the regime without getting rid of the entire establishment.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for making sure that when you go you will be prosecuted for your crimes, human as well as political, before as well as after the 12th of February.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for leaving behind sufficient justification for launching a full enquiry into your financial dealings, both personal and public, to cover all your generals as well.

Thank you, Mr Tantawy, for setting us back on course.

You had your chance, Mr Tantawy to make a dignified exit and escape with your loot.

Now, there is no escape, Mr Tantawy, neither for you nor for your treasonous team. We will no longer let you destroy our country to save yourself.

You blew it, Mr Tantawy, and you must hang for it.


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