Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:51 pm

Ron Paul is a racist... just saying
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby panthergod » Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:06 pm

Not as racist as Obama-- who's Attorney General literally defends voter intimidation based on race-- is, sure. I'll take a guy who will definitively end the war on drugs over the guys who'll pretend to care about the needs of black people while making sure that they( and by 'they' i mean, WE) are destroying themselves and begging the elites for survival.

But no, I don't think he's racist. Lew Rockwell, the man who wrote those articles and edited the letters is, but he's too much of a coward to take responsibility for his writings. The most dangerous racists are the one who pretend to be the allies of people of color while supporting policies specifically meant to weaken our communities so that we are dependent on their elite handlers. The enemy who faces you head on is nowhere near as dangerous as the one who opens his hand in friendship to you with a knife hidden behind his back.
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:06 pm

not only a racist but a crazy racist homophobic Image
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Paul does not deny or retract material that Paul has written under his own signature
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby Nordic » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:15 pm

Ah yes, that's what it reminds me of! The way they went after Howard Dean!

Yup.

You don't fit into the pre_ordained "narrative" of the "election" season, and they WILL take you out oF the game.

I didn't want to bring this up to rehash any pointless arguments about paul or any of the faux "candidates". Seeing as how the elections and the polls and the media is completely rigged now to deliver whjatever outcome they desire.

They WILL remove Ron Paul from the race. That will happen. They have made that clear.

So IMO its pointless to argue about his merits, BUT it would be a great ecercise to get as many people on boards the Paul bandwagon just to EXPOSE how they do this!!

I would like to see that happen because this country needs a serious kick in the balls because most people STILL think we have free elections here!!! And we fucking DON'T!!

So yeah let's get a huge percentage of people on board for Paul and make them show their hand.

So its beyond a shadow of a doubt how they choose who they want, and then tell u how we feel and how we voted.

I mean after 2000 and 2004 it shoud be fucking obvious as hell! But that was one of the major psyops of having an obama "win" wasn't it?
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:27 pm

Ron Paul will remove Ron Paul all by himself...did ya heard Trump's gone "unaffiliated."
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby 82_28 » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:28 pm

Dude's just as racist as Obama is/isn't. It's a false dichotomy and also a doublebind. The figurehead of Obama didn't "solve" racism at all -- it pointed to a lot of the pointlessness of history and what we understand of it. It exacerbated class issues in a pop culture that considers itself largely non-racist no matter how reactionary and ultimately fascist you may become at the point they pull the trigger. It exacerbated shit in a football term, with the double option. Double things up in the midst of "war" and you win. The war has always been on the people of Earth.

It's that the intellectuals, the empaths etc are all in a "business as usual" mindset. There is no such thing as a right wing intellectual empath. Thus, in my view, we get down to the simple fact of the "right wing". A winger can be intellectual. Fair enough. A winger can also be empathic, but this is always done with family and selfish reasons alone. You got yourself an educated winger.

The left is what remains of the truth. It is the left that can't stand one more moment of Obama and yet our ears perk up at what Paul has to say. The double-bind. Always in front of you.

We need to quit this bullshit about "progress" and begin with intrinsic kindness. Fight your fights, but quit buying into the narrative: it's one side or the other.
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby Simulist » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:50 pm

Iamwhomiam wrote:Let's not forget too, that amongst the agricultural subsidies Paul want eliminated are Food Stamps for those of low income.

I am more than a bit surprised to find so many supporters of Paul posting here. False Hope.

Me too. But I'm also a bit surprised to find that so many people here still believe enough in the American "democratic" system to imagine that their support (or lack of it) really matters.

False hope indeed.
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby StarmanSkye » Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:03 pm

Simulist wrote:

"Me too. But I'm also a bit surprised to find that so many people here still believe enough in the American "democratic" system to imagine that it really matters.

False hope indeed."

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I agree -- That's partly what I tried to say in my longwinded way. But maybe as Nordic said, the best thing to come out of widespread popular support for Paul would be the blatant fraud and manipulation by the PTB ruling-bastards to eliminate Paul that would finally wake up the naive & dumbed-down 'moral majority' at what a total rigged-game farce the whole democratic 'We the People' bit is.

But that could backfire if they manage to make it look like Paul discreditted himself. I dunno, its a pickle.
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:31 pm

LINK"I proclaim publicly that I favor ending government involvement in education."

http://www.schoolandstate.org/proclamation.htm

His name is right there under "policy leaders."

It doesn't say federal government, it says government period. Ron Paul is hooked up with the DeVoes, that is who runs that group and they want no public education.


http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/4/20/232844/831

They are all involved in Citizens United, Ron Paul too.

http://www.law.stanford.edu/publication ... l.11.6.pdf


http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/citizens- ... vKxYTU9mHc

Peter Thiel is one of Ron Paul's associates, he is encouraging kids to not go to college.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/31/fel ... d-college/

I spelled her name wrong...it is DeVos. Here is a little more, Ron Paul is connected to these people, look at what they were pushing in education in the 80s including achievement tests.....NCLB.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=tA ... ange&hl=en


You'll find a lot of inconsistencies in the people that Ron Paul associates with and what he says. He also has a guy named Doug Bandow on his campaign. Bandow, wrote op-eds to influence congress for Jack Abramoff's causes for cash from Abramoff.

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnf ... _db016.htm

I don't understand why Media Matters doesn't connect the dots.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201112080003

Bandow is on Ron Paul's campaign:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread ... y-Advisors

I have found many of these types of things on Ron Paul including conflicting information about the Fed, the Contra Scandal, and his monetary policy buddy Lewis Lehrman that was an investor in George Bush's Arbusto Oil.....why the media doesn't get after him and put the pieces together I have no idea.
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:26 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:I have found many of these types of things on Ron Paul including conflicting information about the Fed, the Contra Scandal, and his monetary policy buddy Lewis Lehrman that was an investor in George Bush's Arbusto Oil.....why the media doesn't get after him and put the pieces together I have no idea.


The corporate media doesn't go after any of these bastards for acting within the norms of the power elite. When they go after Ron Paul, and they will if he scores in Iowa, it'll be because he's a kook who smells like an old man and hates our troops, wants children to overdose on drugs, and would let the Islamofascists impose Sharia law in Texas. Also, his followers are a cult. And how do you know he was even born here? Do you know? Do you really know?!

But what was that other thread? Fuck Ron Paul? Yeh.

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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby Nordic » Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:29 pm

JackRiddler wrote:But what was that other thread? Fuck Ron Paul? Yeh.

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Yeah, I thought I'd revive this one instead of that one. :)

I don't really want to talk about the merits of Ron Paul, because it's pointless. They're never going to "let" him win. There's no "winning" anyway, you're selected now.

I just want someone who will force the issue so Americans will wake up and realize, FINALLY, that their "elections" are meaningless acts of staged theater.

I guess I'm dreaming thinking it could be Ron Paul support that provides that, but right now there's nobody else in the race AT ALL.

We need a real third party person, someone who really suddenly dominates the scene. Right now there's zip.
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:48 pm

Ron Paul Made Millions from Racist Newsletter

by mistermix

It’s probably all stored as Kruggerands in his mattress, to guard against the Amero conversion (via SLT at OTB):

Yet a subsequent report by Reason found that Ron Paul & Associates, the defunct company that published the newsletters and which counted Paul and his wife as officers, reported an income of nearly $1 million in 1993 alone. If this figure is reliable, Paul must have earned multiple millions of dollars over the two decades plus of the newsletters’ existence. It is incredible that he had less than an active interest in what was being printed as part of a subscription newsletter enterprise that earned him and his family millions of dollars. Ed Crane, the president of the Cato Institute, said Paul told him that “his best source of congressional campaign donations was the mailing list for the Spotlight, the conspiracy-mongering, anti-Semitic tabloid run by the Holocaust denier Willis Carto.”


Both ED Kain and he-who-shall-not-be-named have endorsed Paul for President as a protest vote. Since I’m not a serious thinker, I’m free of the weighty obligation to endorse someone in the GOP primary. But for those serious folks, I have a simple question: how could you endorse a guy who published and profited from a newsletter that included AIDS conspiracy theories and called Martin Luther King Day “Hate Whitey Day”?




I Got Killed Trying to Slay a Dragon for Ron Paul

We took a stroll over to Ron Paul Forums today — an Internet war room for Paul cultists, not to be confused with Ron Paul War Room — to see how they were doing, after their five years of uninterrupted, thankless organizing for Paul that finally brought him to the top of presidential polls was threatening to come completely undone over the story of his racist newsletters.

The inevitable mass suicide ritual doesn't appear to have gone down yet. They're keeping busy. They've already conclusively determined that CNN's Gloria Borger is an agent for the military-industrial complex, for example. But the best thing we found was a link to this game, in which you can Slay a Dragon for Ron Paul.

It is a game called Dungeoneers. Perhaps you've played it. Perhaps you're playing it right now! Here's the deal: The "Chief Dungeoneer" at this site has offered to donate $5 to this other Paulite organization, one that specializes in mailing something called "The Ron Paul Super Brochure" to voting households, if you slay a dragon in Dungeoneers.

Sure, why not. Now where's this dragon so I can kill the shit out of it?

First I had to choose a name, which was not difficult. "A White Dragon is raiding your village," it warned. Good. Bring it, cracker. "Will you defeat the dragon menace?" Well I didn't come all this way just to look at the scenery, did I?

Truth be told, the scenery was quite lovely. My first goal was to get to the mines, over by that "TO THE MINES" sign. But to get there I had to step on some hexagons with treasure chests and snakes and nasty potholes, killing anything that moved.

I had clue what the hell I was doing, at all. You click one hexagon and maybe a big snake moves to another hexagon and you click on another hexagon and get treasure and then click on other hexagons. You just click on hexagons for a while. Somehow this got me to the mines. How hard could the mines be?

So yeah... the mines didn't go so well. There were giant frogs and flying monsters on the hexagons in the mines. They moved to my hexagon and attacked and killed me before I could move to a safe hexagon. "The dragon menace remains," the death screen said, rubbing it in. "Please try again. The villagers are begging you." Oh yeah? How about this: No, and I hope the villagers all die. Especially the children.

Well, I tried to help, but the dragon won. And now Ron Paul will suffer a similar fate, but in politics.


and even this from the lovely :roll: Pam Geller

Bombshell! Ron Paul's Racist Newsletters
Exposed. Proof of Ron Paul's racism and lies. Considering how anti-Jewish he is, this is hardly surprising, but it is unrecoverable. He is done.

If you noticed in the photo images of the Ron Paul Newsletters over at Conservatives News you will see that one of the images clearly shows Ron Paul listed as "editor."

Now move on to this link provided in the story...a link that takes one to a Ron Paul interview
with CNN's Wolf Blitzer on the newsletters. At 2:45 into the interview Blitzer asks about "how did this stuff" (various racist nonsense) get into the newsletter. "Who wrote it?"

To which Ron Paul responds:

"I have no idea. Have you ever heard of a publisher of a magazine not knowing every single thing ....The editor is responsible for the daily activity."

And who is listed in the pictured newsletter as the editor?

That's right: Ron Paul.

Big problem - and growing. (American Spectator) hat tip Doc Washburn

Weekly Standard opines, "While Paul’s views on Israel certainly place him outside the American, never mind Republican, mainstream, there is an even more elementary reason the RJC was right to exclude him from its event. It is Paul’s lucrative and decades-long promotion of bigotry and conspiracy theories, for which he has yet to account fully, and his continuing espousal of extremist views, that should make him unwelcome at any respectable forum, not only those hosted by Jewish organizations."

Who Wrote The Ron Paul Newsletters? Ron Paul Wrote Them – Clear Proof Conservative News (hat tip Fern)

People wonder who wrote the Ron Paul newsletters.

First, if you’re new to this topic, it’s important because for around two decades, he had newsletters written that contained much racist content. He financially profited off of the newsletters. You can read about it more in depth here .

The purpose of this entry is to answer a simple question.

Who wrote the Ron Paul newsletters?

In a 1996 interview with the Dallas Morning News, Ron Paul was asked about his newsletters. In that interview he defended them. You can read a copy of the interview here. You can purchase a hard copy of that interview here.

In the interview, he did not deny he made the statement about the swiftness of black men.

“If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them,” Dr. Paul said.

He also said the comment about black men in the nation’s capital was made while writing about a 1992 study produced by the National Center on Incarceration and Alternatives, a criminal justice think tank based in Virginia.

Citing statistics from the study, Dr. Paul then concluded in his column: `Given the inef! ficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”

“These aren’t my figures,” Dr. Paul said Tuesday. “That is the assumption you can gather from” the report

From this interview we gather Ron Paul knew about the content, defended the content and wrote the content.

Before we look at internal evidence, here’s a brief sample of his offensive sayings.

”"We don’t think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That’s true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.

“Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions,”

“I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal,”

“we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational.”
Source (As if the Paulbots care. But hey.)

Let’s look at some internal evidence.
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From the above picture we see the newsletter clearly implies it’s written in his name. The arrow points to a sentence that is said in the first person. This would indicate it is Ron Paul writing and not someone else.
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The above picture has another first person reference. Indicating it’s not another author.
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The above includes his signature. Once again indicating he’s doing the writing.
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and I would like to make one thing clear just because we may have one racist in the White House does not mean there's a need for another to take his place. Even though I really really like the herb
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby Simulist » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:11 pm

I have a simple question: how could you endorse a guy who published and profited from a newsletter that included AIDS conspiracy theories and called Martin Luther King Day “Hate Whitey Day”?

Good question — especially the last part.
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:29 pm

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government

Postby elfismiles » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:58 pm

So, where is the racism in those videos?

As a supposed decades-long closet-racist you'd think there would be at least one video of him somewhere saying something racist.
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