#OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby brainpanhandler » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:22 pm

I think wintler2 was just expressing frustration at the characterization of the rose bowl action as a totalfailure simply because it was not covered by msm and failed to significantly alter the status quo. If success and failure is measured by msm coverage and immediate tangible change then we may as well admit defeat and call it a day. Maybe we are all fucked but i'd rather not have tha satisfaction of saying I told you so on that one. Occupy is growing here in madison. Growing. Now is the time for adults among to defer gratification and realize life is not a movie or a video game. We may never get to see or taste the fruit of the seeds we plant today. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't plant them ffs. That selfish attitude is what has gotten us here in thhe first place.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby wetland » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:14 pm

Simultaneously viewing the mobile livestreams embedded in Operation Occupy the Rose Parade and the KTLA stream of the canonical Rose Parade on the same screen -- all audio up -- was painfully high-contrast at moments. My eyeball almost exploded from the dissonance when the City of LA "dinosaurs" float and the RFD Channel "Roy Rogers Centennial" float rolled by.

It's worth checking out some of the video from inside Occupy the Rose Parade.
Start with @OccupyFreedomLA 's Ustream archive
http://www.ustream.tv/occupyfreedomla
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:17 pm

Great Occupy Rose Bowl Parade photos.

Yes, the CIA media will hide The Movement.
Yes, the choir NEEDS to stay in practice and in tune.

The military calls this 'sustaining propaganda.'
As in, don't give up an inch. Keep what ya got and build on it.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Nordic » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:31 pm

Well a failure here and there is ok, as long as you admit to yourself that it is a failure.

And I suppose if it won any converts at all, that's a good thing.

Hopefully it wasn't valuable resources wasted.

And I hope its not a trend of the occupy movement, to cooperate with the authorities. Doing that, and being polite, gets you nowhere. I suppose that's my greatest fear about it, that it will go the way of all those other protests before.

So far they've been incredibly smart. Except for this Rose Parade thing, which at worst was just a waste of energy and time.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:37 pm

The front page of the LA-CIA-Times had an Occupy Rose Bowl photo of a protester carrying a baby while wearing a 'V for Vendetta' mask.
ARGH!

This mask is that of a building-blowing-up-art-collecting-cheese-eating-latte-sipping-Volvo-driving....terrorist.
And dupes are dumb enough to pick up the bone thrown and wear it as self-discrediting.
And the CIA media capitalizes on it as negative-framing of dissent as terrorism.
Just as intended.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby wintler2 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:07 am

Nordic wrote:.. failure.. failure .. valuable resources wasted .. gets you nowhere .. waste of energy and time.


Who benefits from dividing and demeaning the countless group and individual efforts that make up the Occupy movement? The already overprivelidged.
Who benefits from each and every single effort towards justice and peace? Everyone.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby eyeno » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:21 am

So far they've been incredibly smart. Except for this Rose Parade thing, which at worst was just a waste of energy and time.



I understand what you are saying. I also agree with you that as far as media coverage goes it was a flop. That is the way this whole "occupy" thing has been all along though. The media has both ignored it, minimized it, and abused it.

As I understand it the goal of Occupy is to "occupy" and that means show up everywhere you can. I would not equate lack of media coverage with failure because that is to be expected. As far as media coverage goes its a win some lose some type of game. I don't see the Rose Bowl Parade as wasted effort, I simply see it as a great effort with lack of media coverage. The Occupy Movement cannot dictate the media coverage and is a victim of the lack of it. No pain no gain. Rose Bowl was one of the best chances to get some coverage and the fact that they got no coverage is no big surprise.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:02 pm

Count the number of on-lookers at the parade in the photos and vidoes of the OccupyRoseBowl op ... hundreds / thousands?

Count the number of folks like us in forums and blogs around the world looking at those same photos and vidoes. Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands?

THOSE people got the message. WINNING!!!

FUCK THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA! We don't fucking need them. They are dinosaurs and we are watching them go extinct.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:29 pm

So much to say here...no time...I will say, OF COURSE MSM isn't coving it! DUH! The only reason they covered it for a few weeks a month ago was in attempt to co-opt it or make fun of it. Some still do for that. Heck in the article I posted it says 200 OWSers. Er, it was more than 200, btw.

Secondly, how many here are actually following occupy through other sources? By some comments, its clear the answer is NO. There is a LOT going on, on many fronts. OCCUPY... much of which isn't being posted or followed up on/updated on this thread. Its out there. I hope you are doing so through other means than this one thread.

New years' eve for example. Do you know OWS launched an attempt to retake the park that night? Do you know Tim Pool followed them and was live streaming? Did you check his footage after if not seen live? Do you have a way to be informed of all the activities? Did you do a search in Youtube for Occupy the Rose Parade videos to pass around? Oh well.
I plan on posting pics and such from that night here. Its up to us though to spread it and seek it out.

Point being, do not expect to be spoon fed, and do not expect MSM to tell you. Have to be brief now, but will echo many preceeding comments. Oh, and someone still has a mask issue? lol, get over it.


Now a few things-

First of all,
Occupy the Rose Parade: The Octopus

Uploaded by kellylcr on Jan 2, 2012
The Occupy Octopus as seen from the grandstand on Orange Grove Blvd., Pasadena, CA. 2 January 2012

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Occupy the Rose Parade #1

Uploaded by kellylcr on Jan 2, 2012
As seen from the grandstand on Orange Grove Blvd., Pasadena, CA - 2 January 2012

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Occupy The Rose Parade preparation complete with rapping 'billionaire'

Uploaded by SGVNews on Dec 29, 2011
Dec. 29, PASADENA: Occupy the Rose Parade plans to descend upon the annual showcase of flowered floats and bands with a undetermined number of protesters. Pasadena police officials have said there could be between 200 and 1,000 protesters. However, Occupy hasn't released any firm numbers to this newspaper. The New York Times reported as many as 40,000 protesters could show for the Rose Parade.

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crikkett wrote:In my twitter stream today I read that there were Mic Checks every 10m at Grand Central Station in NY, and then there were arrests.

The smartest idea I saw today (so far) was that #Occupy groups should get together to form bail bonds companies, so that they'd keep their money intact.

I haven't thought to tag these tweets. I had the stream up while working.


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Video: Cops Arrest Activist For Yelling About NDAA In Grand Central


Uploaded by udipl on Jan 3, 2012

On January 3 2012 Occupy Wall St. protesters concluded a full day of action at New York's Grand Central Terminal for a flash mob.
After one woman repeatedly used the human-mic to read our statement to the people at the terminal, the police decided to silence our dissent by arresting this one woman.
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Three protesters were arrested and four issued summonses yesterday in Grand Central Terminal, where approximately 150 demonstrators formed a "flash mob" to protest President Obama's signing of the National Defense Authorization Act [NDAA], a military spending bill that also authorizes the military to detain American citizens indefinitely without due process. Obama signed it in Hawaii on New Year's Eve, and it hasn't gotten that much attention in the media, but some people at least are a little alarmed about this, and they were expressing their outrage during rush hour yesterday. In this video, protester Lauren Digioia gets arrested around the two minute mark:

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http://gothamist.com/2012/01/04/video_c ... r_yell.php

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oh, another thing...

Occupy Wall Street's Livestream Operators Arrested
Jan 3, 2012
Occupy Wall Street is in the middle of one of its day-long marches in New York Tuesday, protesting the National Defense Authorization Act, but for those following along on the Global Revolution livestream, the real action is happening in the broadcast studio itself. That's because police have apparently just raided the Brooklyn studio of Globalrevolution.tv and taken some of the project's key volunteers into custody.

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Nordic » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:05 pm

Hey I'm happy to be taken to task because of this. I'm happy to be proven wrong.

But I'm getting slammed by some assumptions here.

First, I monitor a ridiculous number of Occupy info sources. I've turned my Facebook page into a nonstop supply. If you were to scroll down my facebook page most of the time you'll see nothung but Occupy news from a surprising number of sources. So I'm not expecting to be "spoon fed" by the corporate/fascist media.

However the success of the OWS so far, like Cindy Sheehan before (and I get all her news too and know damn well she was at the Rose Parade) is directly due to the fact that they organized in such a way that the corporate/fascist media couldn't ignore them.

That's the very key to the success. Like it or not. Even if they portray it in a negative light, they usually make the mistake of "doth protesting too much" and a lot of people see through it now.

Remember all those marches and protests against the Iraq rape? Those had zero affect. Zero. Because they were predictable, and scheduled, and everybody knew where they would start and end, and by the time they were "reported" upon they were over.

Doesn't work. Listen, if the Rose Parade did any good, then great. But if a tree falls in a forest ... Blah blah blah.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:29 pm

one more-

NYPD Arrests Operators Of Occupy Wall Street Livestream

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/03 ... livestream /

January 3, 2012 By Stephen D. Foster Jr.

In the absence of traditional media coverage that Tea Party protests enjoyed, the Occupy movement has been largely ignored and has had to rely on cell phone footage and livestream internet feeds to show the American public what’s been happening.

Global Revolution is considered to be the most important channel covering Occupy Wall Street, broadcasting live feeds of the protests all around the world. So when protesters tell police that the world is watching as the officers beat and pepper spray innocent Americans, they mean it. So it was shocking when Global Revolution ceased their livestream of Occupy protests against the National Defense Authorization Act in New York, and switched to Occupy Maui in Hawaii.

That’s because the NYPD ambushed the operators of the feed in the studio and arrested them. On Tuesday, police raided the building where Global Revolution was broadcasting from and took key operators into custody, including Vlad Teichberg, an operator named Spike, and four or five other volunteers. Vlad and Spike maintained the livestream feed.

Police raided the Bushwick studio after ordering everyone to vacate the premises because the space supposedly is “imminently perilous to life.” The livestream is now down for the time being.

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allisonkilkenny allisonkilkenny
RT @Dwayne_wins: Global Rev team were arrested yesterday. The citation reads "Attempted Re-Occupying" It's a real crime in NYC #ows #occupy

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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:45 pm

Occupy "Die In" at Iowa DNC protests NDAA, Corporate Control


Uploaded by UpTakeVideo on Jan 3, 2012
Occupy The Caucus took aim at Democrats on the eve of the Iowa caucuses, holding a "die in" to protest President Obama signing a law that could allow Americans to be held indefinitely without trial if they are accused of terrorism.

"It's a slippery slope of what is terrorism and coming at the American people." said one of the group.
Protesters also wanted Democrats to know they were just as guilty as Republicans when it comes to allowing corporate money to heavily influence the nation's policy decisions.
Protesters lay on the floor of a hotel that houses the Democratic National Committee's Iowa "war room", playing dead while one read a statement.

"The people lying before you represent the victims of the one percent's war on democracy both at home and abroad. We are determine to remain here until Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chair of the Democratic National Committee agrees to meet with us to discuss our demands that corporate money be removed from national politics and civil liberties be restored to their primary position in all public policy. We seek a discussion about how the democratic party will stop serving the interests of Wall Street and corporate money and start putting people before profits."

On Sunday, the group had invited Schultz to meet with them, but she declined the invention according to an Occupy press release.
Twelve of the protesters were arrested for trespassing.

Video by Roger Routh
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‘Occupy’ protesters stage ‘die-in’ against National Defense Authorization Act
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/03/o ... ation-act/

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NYC attempted park retaking by OWS on New Years' eve.-
They first attempted around 8pm and were given lots of harassment by the cops. They returned an hour later and overwhelmed the cops. OWS retook the park and piled up the barricades.

New Years eve-
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http://www.ustream.tv/timcast

Timcast Tim Pool
I'm broadcasting "live now! Timcast.tv" live on @Ustream. Come watch and chat! - ustre.am/FdJZ (8:32pm)
45 minutes ago

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December 31, 2011, 9:58 PM
Surging Back Into Zuccotti Park, Protesters Are Cleared by Police
By COLIN MOYNIHAN and ELIZABETH A. HARRIS

More than 300 people associated with the Occupy Wall Street movement gathered in Zuccotti Park on Saturday and, in a return to scenes from earlier in the year, held a general assembly meeting, chanted the now familiar slogan “We are the 99 percent” and experienced a bit of friction with security guards.

At about 7 p.m. on New Year’s Eve, about 100 people started flowing into the park, according to witnesses, and someone erected what was described as a small tent built for a child. Two young girls, who were at the park with their mother, began playing inside.

Though the New York City Police Department had officers fanned out throughout the city for the holiday, there were police officers lined up across the street from Zuccotti Park, at the ready alongside private security guards. They stepped in.

Police officers and security guards instructed protesters to remove the tent, saying it violated rules issued by the park’s owner, Brookfield Properties, banning tents, tarps and other structures inside the square. Meanwhile, a police officer and a security guard, who declined to identify themselves, tried to block other protesters, and at least one reporter, from entering the park. Some people disregarded their instructions and squeezed their bodies through the spaces between metal barricades.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby wetland » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:11 am

The best way to keep up with Occupy is to tune in to #OWS and related hashtags on Twitter
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby crikkett » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:08 am

wintler2 wrote:
Nordic wrote:.. failure.. failure .. valuable resources wasted .. gets you nowhere .. waste of energy and time.


Who benefits from dividing and demeaning the countless group and individual efforts that make up the Occupy movement? The already overprivelidged.
Who benefits from each and every single effort towards justice and peace? Everyone.

Also consider that the coverage (as scant as it was) was more than any other single #Occupy march to date. (on edit: i take that back. the port of oakland shutdown was all over my local news)

And the immediate audience was larger too. The crowd was dispersing, but that was an enormous crowd, mostly tourists, and at least one person joined the march from the sidelines.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Project Willow » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:32 pm

Rape and sexual assault in resistance movements.
http://www.occupypatriarchy.org/

Women Occupying Wall Street (WOW)
http://www.nycga.net/groups/wow/

Occupy Seattle Seeks Amendment to End Corporate Personhood
Posted by StianK on Tue, 01/03/2012 - 19:38

January 3, 2011. “Corporations are not people,” has been a mantra of Occupy Seattle since the organization’s inception, and on Wednesday, Dec. 21, these words were committed to action. Joining a long list of similar actions taken by Occupy movements around the country and the Los Angeles City Council, a resolution was adopted and a portion of the text reads:

“Be it resolved that Occupy Seattle calls for the abolition of corporate personhood. We join the tens of thousands of people, grassroots organizations and local governments across the country in calling for an Amendment to the Constitution to firmly establish that money spent on political campaigns must allow for an equal voice for all people, that human beings, not corporations, have natural rights protected by the Constitution, and that the rights of human beings will never again be granted to artificial entities or property.”


http://occupyseattle.org/blog/2012-01-03/occupy-seattle-seeks-amendment-end-corporate-personhood

Upcoming actions:
Occupy the Courts, anti-Citizens United protest, January 20.

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