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Re: Fuck Mitt Romney

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:49 pm

crikkett wrote:It's only fair to change the titles of the EFF Obama and EFF Ron Paul threads while we're at it. Preserves continuity.


I disagree. These preceded the rule and were grandfathered. In fact, the rule should be bent to allow Fuck Romney, for the sake of balance. Pretty sure Jeff instituted the rule so that you wouldn't one day look at the GD titles and see:

Fuck the CIA
Fuck Wall Street
Fuck China
Fuck the Lizard Overlords
Fuck David Icke
Fuck Peak Oil
Fuck Me, I'm French
Fuck-Words to Describe GD Today
Fuck Etc.

all the way down the line. Which I'm told would lower the level of discourse.
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Re: Fuck Mitt Romney

Postby Project Willow » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:08 pm

JackRiddler wrote:In fact, the rule should be bent to allow Fuck Romney, for the sake of balance.


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Re: Mitt the Meanie

Postby Jeff » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:01 pm

Yes to all that.
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Re: Mitt the Meanie

Postby Jeff » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:53 pm

For the sake of the fearful symmetry of our forum's fuckery, I'll edit this thread to restore its original title. (Much as I appreciate "Mitt the Meanie.")

I won't bother amending the posting guidelines to exempt GOP candidates from the subject line no-fuck rule, but if it carries on as far as "Fuck Huntsman" I think I'm going to lose my shit.
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Re: Fuck Romney

Postby Simulist » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:56 pm

:D

Thanks, Jeff. Because, as mentioned earlier: after Obama, the last thing we need is another Republican president.
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Re: Fuck Romney

Postby Jeff » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:01 pm

Cheers, Simulist. :tiphat:

May the pile-on resume.
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Re: Fuck Mitt Romney

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:43 am

JackRiddler wrote:Fuck Me, I'm French


Just like Mitt Romney!

And, for two years in the past, Newt Gingrich.
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Re: Fuck Romney

Postby wordspeak2 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:51 am

Fuck Jon Huntsman! He's a traitor for the Chinese. Did everyone see the extremely racist anti-Huntsman as by Ron Paul supporters? Really one of the more disgusting things I've ever seen in my life.
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Re: Fuck Mitt Romney

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:52 pm

Stephen Morgan wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:Fuck Me, I'm French


Just like Mitt Romney!

And, for two years in the past, Newt Gingrich.


As I strive to meet FCC requirements in all RI posts, I did not mean that as a command to effect sexual intercourse with my person. That would be vulgar! Think "Fuck Me" as used by the English, as in: "Oh Shit, (I just discovered) I'm French!"

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Re: Fuck Romney

Postby publius » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:05 pm

These jokers are late night TV fodder. All without exception serve Mammon and gladly will serve you also, fried or broiled or raw if that is how Mammon likes it. And yet, why not? No matter how stupid the man, there is always a dumb vote and a smart machine waiting for programming instructions.

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CHAPTER XVII

A CORRUPT PEOPLE COMING INTO THEIR LIBERTY CAN MAINTAIN ITSELF FREE ONLY WITH THE GREATEST DIFFICULTY

I judge that it was necessary that Kings should be eliminated in Rome, or (else) that Rome would in a very short time become weak and of no valor; for considering to what (degree of) corruption those Kings had come, if it should have continued so for two or three successions, (and) that that corruption which was in them had begun to spread through its members; (and) as the members had been corrupted it was impossible ever again to reform her (the state). But losing the head while the torso was sound, they were able easily to return to a free and ordered society. And it ought to be presupposed as a very true matter that a corrupted City which exists under a Prince, even though that Prince with all his lives (family) may be extinguished, can never become free; and that rather it should happen that one Prince destroy the other, for (these people) will never be settled without the creation of a new Lord, who by his goodness together with his virtu will then keep them free: but that liberty will last only during his life time, as happened at different times in Syracuse to Dion and Timoleon, whose virtu while they lived, kept that City free: but when they died, it returned to the ancient Tyranny. But there is no more striking example to be seen than that of Rome, which after the Tarquins had been driven out, was able quickly to resume and maintain that liberty; but after the death of Caesar, Caligula, and Nero, and after the extinction of all the line of Caesar, she could not only never maintain her liberty, but was unable to reestablish it. And so great a difference in events in the same City did not result from anything else other than (the fact that) the Roman People in the time of Tarquin was not yet corrupt, and in the latter time (Caesar's) it became very corrupt. For to keep her sound and disposed to keep away from Kings at that time, it was enough to make them swear that they should never consent that any of them should ever reign in Rome; but in the time of the other (Caesar) the authority of Brutus with all the Eastern legions was not enough to keep her disposed to want to maintain that liberty which he, in imitation of the first Brutus, had restored to her. Which resulted from that corruption which the party of Marius had spread among the people, at the head of which was Caesar, who was able so to blind the multitude that they did not recognize the yoke which they themselves were placing on their necks.

And although this example of Rome is to be preferred to any other example, none the less on this proposition I want to refer to people known before our times. I say, therefore, that no incident ((although grave and violent)) can ever restore Milan or Naples to freedom, because those people are entirely corrupt. Which was seen after the death of Filippo Visconti, who, wanting to restore liberty to Milan, did not know how and could not maintain it. It was therefore a great good fortune for Rome that no sooner had these Kings become corrupt than they were driven out, and that before their corruption should pass into the vitals of that City; which corruption was the cause of the infinite tumults which took place in Rome ((men having good intentions)) (and which) did no harm, but rather benefited the Republic. And this conclusion can be drawn, that where the people is not corrupted, tumults and other troubles do no harm; but where corruption exists, well ordered laws are of no benefit, unless they are administered by one who, with extreme strength, will make them be observed until the people become good (cured); I do not know if this ever happened, or whether it be possible that it could happen; for it is seen ((as I have said a little above)) that a City coming to decadence because of the corruption of its people, if it ever happens that she is raised up again, it happens through the virtu of one man who is then living, and not by the virtu of the general public, that the good institutions are sustained: and as soon as such a one is dead, they will return to their pristine habits, as happened at Thebes, which by the virtu of Epaminondas, while he was alive, was able to maintain the form of a Republic and Empire, but after his death returned to its first disorders: the reason is this, that one man cannot live so long that the time will be enough to bring a City back to good habits which for a long time has had evil habits. And if one of very long life or two continuous successors of virtu do not restore it (the state), so one which lacks them ((as was said above)) is quickly ruined, unless it should be made to be restored through many dangers and much bloodshed. For such corruption and little inclination for a free society result from an inequality that exists in that City; and wanting to bring them to equality, it is necessary to use the most extraordinary means, which few know or want to use, as will be described in more detail in another place.
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Re: Fuck Romney

Postby Allegro » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:07 am

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Romney Parks Millions in Cayman Islands
Jan. 18, 2012, by MATTHEW MOSK, BRIAN ROSS, MEGAN CHUCHMACH of ABC News wrote:Although it is not apparent on his financial disclosure form, Mitt Romney has millions of dollars of his personal wealth in investment funds set up in the Cayman Islands, a notorious Caribbean tax haven.

A spokesperson for the Romney campaign says Romney follows all tax laws and he would pay the same in taxes regardless of where the funds are based.

As the race for the Republican nomination heats up, Mitt Romney is finding it increasingly difficult to maintain a shroud of secrecy around the details about his vast personal wealth, including, as ABC News has discovered, his investment in funds located offshore and his ability to pay a lower tax rate.

"His personal finances are a poster child of what's wrong with the American tax system," said Jack Blum, a Washington lawyer who is an authority on tax enforcement and offshore banking.

On Tuesday, Romney disclosed that he has been paying a far lower percentage in taxes than most Americans, around 15 percent of his annual earnings. It has been Romney's Republican rivals who have driven the tax issue onto center stage. For weeks, Romney has cited a desire for privacy as his reason for not sharing his tax returns -- a gesture of transparency that is now expected from presidential contenders.

"I can tell you we follow the tax laws," he said recently while on the campaign trail in New Hampshire. "And if there's an opportunity to save taxes, we like anybody else in this country will follow that opportunity."

But tax experts tell ABC News there are other reasons Romney may not want the public viewing his returns. As one of the wealthiest candidates to run for president in recent times, Romney has used a variety of techniques to help minimize the taxes on his estimated $250 million fortune. In addition to paying the lower tax rate on his investment income, Romney has as much as $8 million invested in at least 12 funds listed on a Cayman Islands registry. Another investment, which Romney reports as being worth between $5 million and $25 million, shows up on securities records as having been domiciled in the Caymans.

Official documents reviewed by ABC News show that Bain Capital, the private equity partnership Romney once ran, has set up some 138 secretive offshore funds in the Caymans.

Romney campaign officials and those at Bain Capital tell ABC News that the purpose of setting up those accounts in the Cayman Islands is to help attract money from foreign investors, and that the accounts provide no tax advantage to American investors like Romney. Romney, the campaign said, has paid all U.S. taxes on income derived from those investments.

"The tax consequences to the Romneys are the very same whether the fund is domiciled here or another country," a campaign official said in response to questions. "Gov. and Mrs. Romney have money invested in funds that the trustee has determined to be attractive investment opportunities, and those funds are domiciled wherever the fund sponsors happen to organize the funds."

Bain officials called the decision to locate some funds offshore routine, and a benefit only to foreign investors who do not want to be subjected to U.S. taxes.

Tax experts agree that Romney remains subject to American taxes. But they say the offshore accounts have provided him -- and Bain -- with other potential financial benefits, such as higher management fees and greater foreign interest, all at the expense of the U.S. Treasury. Rebecca J. Wilkins, a tax policy expert with Citizens for Tax Justice, said the federal government loses an estimated $100 billion a year because of tax havens.

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Re: Fuck Romney

Postby Allegro » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:44 am

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Evangelical activists praise Santroum, rip Romney for 'homophilia'
— By Kim Geiger, LA Times | January 18, 2012, 7:13 p.m.

    A trio of South Carolina evangelicals threw their support behind Rick Santorum on Wednesday with a provocative statement that praises the former Pennsylvania senator for putting his name to “extremely politically-incorrect statements about homosexuality, heterosexuality and marital fidelity,” while rebuking front-runner Mitt Romney for “homophilia” and suggesting that his Mormon faith is “heretical.”

    Rick Santorum clearly sees homosexuality for what the Bible, Rome, Bob Jones University and even Salt Lake City have always regarded it, as a very serious form of sexual sin like adultery or incest,” the Rev. Huey Mills, a Lancaster pastor and principal of a Christian school, said in a statement. “Romney's position on homosexuality, on the other hand, is probably a bigger scandal to traditionalist Mormons than it is to those of us who've always seen Mormonism, with its interesting historic approaches to sexuality and polygamy, as pretty heretical.

    “In obedience to the Judeo-Christian Scriptures, most South Carolinians and I have a sane and healthy homophobia, while Mitt Romney has a very bad case of homophilia,” Mills said. “The man very clearly endorses dangerous, unhealthy homosexual conduct.”

    Joining Mills were Lt. Col. Ray Moore, a retired U.S. Army Reserve chaplain who lives in Columbia, and Molotov Mitchell, an evangelical Christian video artist who has produced YouTube videos highlighting Newt Gingrich’s history of infidelity.

    The endorsement follows a meeting of evangelical leaders in Texas, who voted 89 to 25 last weekend to support Santorum over rival Newt Gingrich. Prominent religious activist Tony Perkins will appear with Santorum on Thursday in Charleston.

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Re: Fuck Romney

Postby Jeff » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:54 am

January 24, 2012, 12:35 am
Romney Tax Returns Show $45 Million Income
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR, JEFF ZELENY and JIM RUTENBERG

Mitt Romney’s campaign released details of his federal tax returns on Tuesday morning, showing that he will most likely pay $6.2 million in taxes on $45 million in income over the two tax years of 2010 and 2011.

The details of the returns, confirmed by a senior campaign official, provide the most detailed view yet of his wealthy family’s finances. The disclosure comes after a barrage of pressure to release his returns – which Mr. Romney has never done, even when he was elected governor of Massachusetts.

The disclosure — reported early Tuesday by The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal and financial wire services — showed a vast array of investments from a recently closed Swiss Bank account to holdings in Bermuda to the Cayman Islands, all underscoring the breadth and depth of his wealth that has become central in his bid for the Republican presidential nomination.

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The Romneys hold as much as a quarter of a billion dollars in assets, much of it derived from Mr. Romney’s time as founder and partner in Bain Capital, a private equity firm. And federal financial disclosures Mr. Romney made when he began his presidential campaign reveal he had said those assets generated at least $9.6 million in income in 2010 and part of 2011, most of it from capital gains, dividends and interest on their investments.

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Re: Fuck Romney

Postby Allegro » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:37 am

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Mitt Romney (R) | Top Contributors
Open Secrets dot org wrote:This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2012 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

Because of contribution limits, organizations that bundle together many individual contributions are often among the top donors to presidential candidates. These contributions can come from the organization's members or employees (and their families). The organization may support one candidate, or hedge its bets by supporting multiple candidates. Groups with national networks of donors - like EMILY's List and Club for Growth - make for particularly big bundlers.

    Goldman Sachs | $367,200
    Credit Suisse Group | $203,750
    Morgan Stanley | $199,800
    HIG Capital | $186,500
    Barclays | $157,750
    Kirkland & Ellis | $132,100
    Bank of America | $126,500
    PriceWaterhouseCoopers | $118,250
    EMC Corp | $117,300
    JPMorgan Chase & Co | $112,250
    The Villages | $97,500
    Vivint Inc | $80,750
    Marriott International | $79,837
    Sullivan & Cromwell | $79,250
    Bain Capital | $74,500
    UBS AG | $73,750
    Wells Fargo | $61,500
    Blackstone Group | $59,800
    Citigroup Inc | $57,050
    Bain & Co | $52,500
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Re: Fuck Romney

Postby Nordic » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:41 am

Over at the OWS forum I've been told the reason I don't like Romney (and people like him) is because I'm jealous of his success.
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