The Clitoris: A Recent Discovery in Human Anatomy (NSFW)

[eyeno]

it's really more halo than horns:

That was one of my main themes but I was so tired I forgot to add it to my pictures. To me the divine feminine sums up much of what ancient lore and symbols are about.

The good and evil i spoke of stems from the bible garden of eden.

These pictures have both halo and horn, good and evil, all that is, and the divine feminine (clit) so to speak sums it all up in one picture. The ankh has both halo and horn, and somehow the divine feminine, the true power, keeps coming to mind when I see willow's pics.

When you take physical strength out of the equation women are much more powerful than men which is why men have always done their best to stomp women down into the earth.

I didn't mean to be disrespectful to the thread or to willow. I have PTSD and i'm very sensitive. I would never hurt you willow on purpose because I know what pain is. I hope you forgive my intrusion and now i'm gone from this thread for good. My apology is sincere.

[compared2what?]

Search for the G-spot ends in anticlimax
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2088767/G-spot-scientists-60-years.html
Ultrasounds and tissue samples have failed to prove existence of erogenous zone

By Tamara Cohen

Last updated at 12:28 AM on 20th January 2012

It will come as some relief to chaps up and down the country – though perhaps not to their wives.

The elusive female G-spot may not actually exist at all, according to scientists.

Oh, scientists. Just shut up, shut up, shut up sometimes instead of going around speaking for what lots of people feel when you don't know what you're talking about, please, okay?

‘Lots of women feel almost as though it is their fault they can’t find it’, Dr Kilchevsky said. ‘The reality is that it is probably not something, historically or evolutionarily, that should even exist.’

Grrr.

This picture from the article completely omits The Clitoris...

They ALWAYS do that.

The PDF complete-history-of-the-continual-rediscovery-of-the-internal-clit-thru-the-centuries that Willow linked to in the OP actually addresses the G-spot thing. Incidentally.

[Project Willow]

How long do you think it will be before they totally stop using those old-school metal speculums with the screw-thingies every place in the world?

I would hope the increasing ratio of female college graduates will eventually lead to improvements in that area.

I have a special connection to the speculum. My great grandfather held one of the first patents on the damn things, sometime in the early twentieth century, I'll have to look it up. I used to keep a framed copy of the submitted engineering drawings on display just to add to the atmosphere created by my artwork. It's also a fun story to tell the staff during gyno visits and listen as they tell all their pals out in the hallway, "Yeah, it was her great grandfather!"

They ALWAYS do that.

Yeah, I'll join you in that Grrrr. Grrrrrr.
Maybe it's like how society forgets and then rediscovers the effects of trauma.

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How long do you think it will be before they totally stop using those old-school metal speculums with the screw-thingies every place in the world?

I would hope the increasing ratio of female college graduates will eventually lead to improvements in that area.

I have a special connection to the speculum. My great grandfather held one of the first patents on the damn things, sometime in the early twentieth century, I'll have to look it up. I used to keep a framed copy of the submitted engineering drawings on display just to add to the atmosphere created by my artwork. It's also a fun story to tell the staff during gyno visits and listen as they tell all their pals out in the hallway, "Yeah, it was her great grandfather!"

That's the awesomest thing I've ever heard. The only way it could be any more awesome would be if he had actually and literally held one of the first patents on gynecological instruments for operating on mutant women. (Superfluous link to [possibly triggering? hopefully not?] movie moment here )

Maybe it's like how society forgets and then rediscovers the effects of trauma.

Maybe. Just as a matter of wishful thinking, I guess I'd prefer to think that it was merely similar to how society forgets and then rediscovers the effects of trauma. But the truth is that I don't really understand what society gets out of the forgetting part of the process. Which is to say: The entire process for virtually all people and all societies at all times known to history.

I mean, it's pretty hard to come up with a hypothesis that's really capable of fully accounting for all that,

[compared2what?]

I don't know why I keep coming back to this thread, because really it has nothing at all to do with me. Still, it's fascinating.

I really do think I would need help finding my way around...

There's often concierge service en suite, though, you know. And it's usually either free or at no additional cost, too!

So. If you ever find yourself in the vicinity and in need of directions, just try asking the first nice lady you see. Discreetly.

[slomo]

I don't know why I keep coming back to this thread, because really it has nothing at all to do with me. Still, it's fascinating.

I really do think I would need help finding my way around...

There's often concierge service en suite, though, you know. And it's usually either free or at no additional cost, too!

So. If you ever find yourself in the vicinity and in need of directions, just try asking the first nice lady you see. Discreetly.

There are days when Omols and I do not see eye-to-eye on things, and I've about had it, and I wonder can I really do this again with another guy? But then I remember how lost I would be trying to get used to a new ahem geography.

As for the G-spot, I suspect it's a statistical thing. In other words, there is an optimal location for, whatever, force? friction? torsion? on every woman, and that it averages out to that special location. It's "real" in the sense that it is an almost objective thing that emerges from a psychological construct (the same way the "objective" real world out there is built up as an internal mental construct in your brain), but not observable in the sense of tissues with specifically differentiated cells, vasculature, neural circuitry, etc. The physiologists don't talk to the neurologists... But, as I mentioned before, I don't really have much personal experience with such things. I could tell you there are male correlates, but if go into too much detail here it will wig the straight boys out...

It's sort of like chakras. If you do enough meditation you really can feel them distinctly, but they do not correspond to known strictly physiological processes.

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I could tell you there are male correlates, but if go into too much detail here it will wig the straight boys out...

I'm extrapolating from a very small body of anecdotal data here. But I'd say that while there are probably a few straight boys who regularly make a point out of letting the ladies know that they'd totally strangle anyone who tried to go there, there are also probably a few who practically can't get through an entire first date without making sure they won't be buying a woman who doesn't know that they simply can't get off any other way dinner twice.

But....Honestly, I really have absolutely no idea whether most straight boys have any very strong feelings about being heterosexual while having sexually responsive male correlates. One way or the other. All I really know is that the issue rarely arises. I have no clue why. And no reason to inquire, either.

Maybe somebody impartial should do a survey or something.

[compared2what?]

As for the G-spot, I suspect it's a statistical thing.

The PDF linked in the OP makes a pretty persuasive case for it's being an anatomical thing. FWIW.

[slomo]

As for the G-spot, I suspect it's a statistical thing.

The PDF linked in the OP makes a pretty persuasive case for it's being an anatomical thing. FWIW.

I defer to the experts on this one.

I personally like the idea of it being more like a chakra than a specific organ made of tissue, but that's just me. But this is in no way shape or form my area of expertise.

[slomo]

I could tell you there are male correlates, but if go into too much detail here it will wig the straight boys out...

I'm extrapolating from a very small body of anecdotal data here. But I'd say that while there are probably a few straight boys who regularly make a point out of letting the ladies know that they'd totally strangle anyone who tried to go there, there are also probably a few who practically can't get through an entire first date without making sure they won't be buying a woman who doesn't know that they simply can't get off any other way dinner twice.

But....Honestly, I really have absolutely no idea whether most straight boys have any very strong feelings about being heterosexual while having sexually responsive male correlates. One way or the other. All I really know is that the issue rarely arises. I have no clue why. And no reason to inquire, either.

Maybe somebody impartial should do a survey or something.

And then there is this weird phenomenon that, like your report, is based purely on anecdotal evidence. Let's just focus on the present data, and I will reveal more about my personal life than is wise. Neither Omols nor I would stand out as ... obvious ... to a casual observer (e.g. we went to a mostly straight party together and a stranger asked us where our wives were when we arrived), but if you lined us up side-by-side and asked somebody to pick the "gayer" one, I would always be the lucky winner. Omols exudes a kind of redneck masculinity. However, in terms of the material under discussion tonight in this thread, let's just say that if we were baseball players, Omols would prefer to wear the mitt while I would prefer to remain on the pitcher's mound.

Eros never behaves the way you expect him to.

[Nordic]

I hereby declare that I have strong anecdotal evidence for the G spot. However, where the search for it may be going wrong is that I believe it's not an issue of nerve endings in that particular part of the vagina, but instead is an area where certain types of pressure, combined with other stimulation elsewhere, can cause a particularly quick and intense orgasm.

They might want to look at what's directly behind the spot inside the vagina where the G-spot supposedly is.

[slomo]

I hereby declare that I have strong anecdotal evidence for the G spot. However, where the search for it may be going wrong is that I believe it's not an issue of nerve endings in that particular part of the vagina, but instead is an area where certain types of pressure, combined with other stimulation elsewhere, can cause a particularly quick and intense orgasm.

They might want to look at what's directly behind the spot inside the vagina where the G-spot supposedly is.

That seems to me to be consistent with my conjecture about optimal locations for pressure/force/friction/torsion and whatever else can be modeled using tensor calculus within the divine cavity.

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I love you guys to pieces.

[crikkett]

The only organ known to exist solely to provide pleasure, this is the clitoris:

It's more accurate to say that pleasure is the only known function of the clitoris.

I suspect that it does more. A ring of blood-filled tissue that encounters a rod of blood-filled tissue sure does look like an organic electromagnet.

[Avalon]

I have one of those flashlights and a clitoris. The clitoris does what it's meant to do faster and with less effort than a battery-less flashlight, but you cannot read a book under the covers with it.

My own experience has been that the G spot stimulation is a very different sensation from the usual clitoral sensation, and it's the only thing that has been associated with ejaculation (which is a very different fluid from the usual vaginal lubrication).