Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby American Dream » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:55 pm

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E-mails Show Meetings Between Ron Paul And White Supremacists

Written by Casey Gane-McCalla, Lead Blogger on February 2, 2012

New emails released by the hacker group “anonymous” prove that Ron Paul met with white supremacist supporters, Jamies Kelso and Bill Johnson. Kelso is the former assistant to notorious white supremacist Klansman, David Duke and the owner of several white supremacist sites. Kelso is also a friend of Stormfront owner and Don Black as well as a moderator for his site.

Bill Johnson is the chairman for the white supremacist American Third Position Party. In 1989 he wrote a book that advocated repealing the 14th and 15th Amendments of the Constitution and deporting all non-whites from America. Ron Paul had previously endorsed Bill Johnson for for a seat on the Los Angeles Superior Court in 2008. Paul would retract his endorsement after Johnson’s racist views were made public.

In previously released emails Kelso boasted of being asked to be Johnson’s “personal assistant” and referred to Johnson as “Ron Paul’s top man in Southern Calif. for the last 3 years.”

“Anonymous” Reveals Close Ties Between Ron Paul And Neo-Nazis

Here Is An Email From Jamie Kelso About A Meeting With Bill Johnson And Ron Paul

“Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).”

Here Is Another Email From Jamie Kelso From 2011

“I’ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to Feb. 12. I’ll send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul, newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. It’ll be here on WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting because of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock together, and we are really gathering some quality here.”

Kelso Claims That He Was Acting As The “Bridge” Between The Racist Community And Ron Paul’s Other Followers

“The tactic is one of aggressively ‘bridging ‘between our explicit WN members (with our very small numbers) and our very IMPLICITLY pro-White kinsmen in movements like Ron Paul Revolution (with their HUGE) numbers.”

The American Third Position Party was created by racist Southern California skinheads according to the SPLC. Other than Kelso and Johnson, The American Third Position counts white supremacist radio host, James Edwards as a director. Ron Paul was scheduled to appear on Edwards radio show, “The Political Cesspool” in 2007, but canceled after missing a flight.
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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby slimmouse » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:00 pm

Searcher08 wrote:However if you listen to the Rothschild and the Rockefeller actually speak, they work very much by consensus, not dictat or orders.


Well yes. But consensus for who ?
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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby American Dream » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:33 pm

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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby Searcher08 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:55 pm

American Dream wrote:.

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Perhaps you could explain the headline and the image as I do not see a connection with Anonymous attacking A3p??
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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby American Dream » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:03 pm

Searcher08 wrote:
American Dream wrote:.

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Perhaps you could explain the headline and the image as I do not see a connection with Anonymous attacking A3p??

The connection to A3P would be for Ron Paul that he denies or minimizes the links to fascists or white supremacists rather than clearly and definitively making a break with such losers.

The tie to this board would be the apparent efforts to steer the conversation in another direction, as these sorts of topics come up...
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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby American Dream » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:58 pm

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2 ... e-ron-paul

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White Supremacists Love Ron Paul

By Carl Gibson, Reader Supported News
05 February 12
Reader Supported News | Perspective



Stick a fork in Ron Paul, he's done.

Hacktivist collective Anonymous struck a gold mine with Operation Blitzkrieg - an effort to hack into and shut down White Nationalist (WN) websites and forums. Anonymous leaked thousands of emails and private messages from the white supremacist network American Third Position, which is defined as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Anonymous also leaked the address, phone number, social security number and resume of White News Now owner and administrator Jamie Kelso on this website. But in leaking the emails and messages, Anonymous also discovered that a vast number of A3P members claim to be high-ranking members of the Ron Paul campaign. Ron Paul's campaign has some serious explaining to do if this is true. Read what the SPLChas to say about A3P:


The American Third Position is a political party initially established by racist Southern California skinheads that aims to deport immigrants and return the United States to white rule. The group is now led by a coterie of prominent white nationalists, including corporate lawyer William D. Johnson, virulent anti-Semite Kevin MacDonald and white nationalist radio host James Edwards. David Duke's former right-hand man, Jamie Kelso, helps with organizing. The party has big plans to run candidates nationwide.


The SPLC also has quotes fromKelso and Johnson, in detailed profiles from their website.


"No person shall be a citizen of the United States unless he is a non-Hispanic white of the European race.... Only citizens shall have the right and privilege to reside permanently in the United States." - Bill D. Johnson, 1985

"... in a mixed-race environment, altruism towards other sub-species, like Jews, Mestizos, Blacks, and Asians, is always damaging to our own kind's survival ... The non-Whites, who don't share these White traits, must be doubled-over with laughter at times as they watch, in astonishment, as we help them in every way we can to give away our lands, our women, our savings, our safety, our happiness, and our lives for their benefit." - Jamie Kelso, 2006



In leaked private messages, Kelso claims that he and Johnson are top organizers for Ron Paul's campaign.


"I'll give you some more real-life examples of WN folks like us who are very successfully navigating back and forth between great White Nationalism and full mainstream activism. I'll introduce you to folks like William Daniel Johnson, the chairman of the A3P, who is simultaneously Ron Paul's #1 man in Southern California. When Ron has VIP get-togethers at $2,000 a plate they are in Bill's dining room on his 80-acre estate."

Kelso also boasted repeatedly about meeting with both Ron and Rand Paul during the 2011 CPAC for three consecutive days.

"Then I'm heading to DC to meet up with Ron Paul and Rand Paul, personally, at CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference Feb. 10-12.

"Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Rand Paul. I'm in a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are starting to happen.

"We'll be meeting with Ron Paul and Rand Paul. Bill and I got to talk with Ron tonight by phone."



In private messages, Ron Paul organizers in A3P forums essentially admitted to each other that Ron Paul's base was overwhelmingly white, and ripe for inclusion in their own network. They even spoke of being the bridge being the White Nationalist movement and Ron Paul supporters.


"All of us who have helped organize events among these Ron Paul millions are keenly aware that 98% of these folks are White (look at any photo of a Ron Paul rally ... look at my photos of the crowds of 15,000 each on the west lawn of the Capitol on July 12, 2008 and at the Minneapolis counter-convention on September 2, 2008), and that almost all of these White folks want the non-White invasion of our White lands stopped yesterday."

"Anyone who can't see that Ron Paul is the best viable candidate from a pro-White perspective is not bright enough to be of any value to the pro-White movement."

"The most important of those innovations is BRIDGING from our tiny EXPLICITLY pro-White movement to the huge IMPLICITLY pro-White revolution that has been gathering ever since Ron Paul started it rolling in mid-2007."



Even when confronted with any of the ugly, bigoted remarks in his newsletters, or the more recent evidence that Ron Paul actually signed off on each newsletter before they went public, or when shown the picture of Ron Paul posing with campaign donorDon Black of Stormfront, Ron Paul's campaign has soldiered on. But his campaign owes the people and the media a direct response to A3P's claims that Ron and Rand Paul met in private at CPAC with a former Klan leader's right-hand man.

Ron Paul supporters are always quick to dismiss accusations of racism when they point to his opposition to the drug war. Indeed, his pro-decriminalization platform along with his anti-war credentials and his advocacy for tighter regulation of the Federal Reserve have won supporters from the right and the left. But now, no mainstream American should be able to throw their support behind Ron Paul with a clear conscience until he openly disavows his associations with the white supremacist movement and returns all the money donated to his campaign from its leaders and members.

But as far as slugs like Kelso are concerned, feel free to do what I did - give him a call and tell him you're in a mixed-race relationship. Thanks to Anonymous, his phone number is easy to find.



Carl Gibson, 24, of Lexington, Kentucky, is a spokesman and organizer for US Uncut, a nonviolent, creative direct-action movement to stop budget cuts by getting corporations to pay their fair share of taxes. He graduated from Morehead State University in 2009 with a B.A. in Journalism before starting the first US Uncut group in Jackson, Mississippi, in February of 2011. Since then, over 20,000 US Uncut activists have carried out more than 300 actions in over 100 cities nationwide. You may contact Carl at carl@rsnorg.org.


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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:15 pm

Please pardon my late entry and forgive me, but I've gotten only to page 3 when I came across this by slimmouse:
"Why do we spend billions bombing innocents abroad, when for a fraction of those "investment" costs to both human life and us via our taxes we could develop technology that would truly set us all free, with little to zero damage to the environment ?"

Unfortunately, slim, were Paul to be elected, we would not have the subsidies we now do to use for developing those alternative energy generators, because he will destroy, or try to, the tax base they originate from.

And if that doesn't convince you how wrong-minded you are, at least on the topic of Paul, re-read the WSJ article posted and linked to by Ben D in the "Global Warming, eh?" thread. Paul wants to see our polluting industries untethered from regulation, and that article most clearly states that such a policy will cause damage to our world, though its focus was set upon the need to de-regulate industry for greater profit and for the benefit of the world

The last time I checked, the US Mint printed our money.
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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby American Dream » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:52 pm

http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/?p=55395

Hacked Neo-Nazi Websites Reveal Canadian Connections

“In addition to emails and secret websites and blogs, the hackers uncovered photographs of children giving Nazi salutes at a gathering in Missouri, confidential legal documents and displays of Hitler tattoos.”

Data exposes people associated with Blood and Honour and Volksfront

CBC News, Feb 1, 2012

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A picture of a young boy making a Nazi salute at a meeting
in Missouri are among photos uncovered when computer hackers
infiltrated online hate sites. (CBC)



The names of dozens of alleged white supremacists in Canada are contained in files leaked by computer hackers in Europe intent on exposing hate movements, CBC News has learned.

The alleged white supremacists’ names were revealed earlier this month by members of a loose-knit group of hackers called Anonymous on a website called nazi-leaks.net, which is now offline.

In addition to emails and secret websites and blogs, the hackers uncovered photographs of children giving Nazi salutes at a gathering in Missouri, confidential legal documents and displays of Hitler tattoos.

The exposure is a huge blow to hate groups that organize online across Canada, said Helmut-Harry Loewen, a University of Winnipeg sociology professor and a member of the Canadian Anti-racism Education and Research Society.

“We can now begin to piece together a more accurate picture in terms of the distribution of these types of racist groups across Canada,” Loewen said.

Among the information hacked were the names of 74 Canadians — with associated street addresses, email addresses and passwords — who are members of Volksfront and Blood and Honour, along with 142 emails from people who had joined Blood and Honour’s Canadian online forum.

Alleged members charged


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A map made from hacked data reveals clusters of hate group
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Attention has been drawn to Blood and Honour since the arrests in December of three alleged members of the organization who have been charged with attacks on five members of visible minorities in B.C.’s Lower Mainland.

The names of two of the accused, Alistair Miller and Robertson De Chazal, show up in the files uncovered by the European hackers. Miller, 20, and de Chazal, 25, are charged with an attack in which a sleeping Filipino man was apparently sprayed with a flammable liquid and set on fire.

Anti-racist groups hope the exposure hampers online recruitment by white supremacist organizations.

“[These organizations] are going to have to be even more careful in terms of who they trust, who they associate with,” said Loewen. “They’re going to have to look over their shoulders. The police will have access to this info once it becomes more widespread. Employers, neighbours and so on.”

Supremacist angered

Another name uncovered by the hackers was that of Bill Noble, who in 2008 was convicted in B.C. of wilfully promoting hatred. Noble is upset thousands of emails concerning his white supremacist views, legal woes, infidelity, and even some details of his online dating were exposed.

“If it can be determined that any of these individuals carried out these acts, because they were fully aware that they were interfering with the survival of an endangered race, then they should indeed be exterminated,” Noble said in an interview with CBC News via Skype from a location he would not reveal.

“Obviously someone is really trying to harass me and cause problems for me,” said Noble. “It’s annoying as hell and it’s probably compromised a lot of private information.”



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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby justdrew » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:28 pm

FYI - American Dream's 3rd post (on page 1) is being taken down due to a DMCA claim from: American Freedom Group, formerly known as American Third Position or A3P
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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby American Dream » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:09 pm

justdrew wrote:FYI - American Dream's 3rd post (on page 1) is being taken down due to a DMCA claim from: American Freedom Group, formerly known as American Third Position or A3P

Wow- what was in that post?
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Re: Anonymous hacks A3P, Claims Neo-Nazi Links to Ron Paul

Postby justdrew » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:04 pm

American Dream wrote:
justdrew wrote:FYI - American Dream's 3rd post (on page 1) is being taken down due to a DMCA claim from: American Freedom Group, formerly known as American Third Position or A3P

Wow- what was in that post?


names, addresses, phone numbers, (at least a few) SSNs.

aka a proprietary compilation of data that they assert copyright control over. at least I think the take down notice was based on their copyright, but in sum, the fact that the membership lists were not public domain and we had no business hosting their hacked internal documents.

Please leave that sort of thing to pastebin or the like.

Astrologers in the house? Is the end of Feb "the weeks of wakeup calls" or something this year? :shrug:
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