Alternative Rothschild Thread.

[Sounder]

Image from here;

http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.co ... .jpg?w=500

Painting of Amschel with a Maltese Cross

That is a Catholic rather than a Jewish marker.


Knight of Malta Amschel Mayer Rothschild (1744–1812)

[Rory]

What is the difference between the Rothchild threads (seriously).

The Rothschilds: Put your money where your mouth is

Alternative Rothschild Thread.

It does seem like one has little in the way of links, sources or substantiation and the other (which is actually asking for some of these) is being pointedly ignored.

Seems a bit childish to be fair.

[wintler2]

..Seems a bit childish to be fair.

Childish? More like deliberately running cover for slimmouse, who is being called on his trolling in the first Rothschild thread.

I wonder what it was in that Dear Israel Lobby, We Give Up thread that needed to be run into the ground, smothered with Ickeian goop.

[Rory]

..Seems a bit childish to be fair.

Childish? More like deliberately running cover for slimmouse, who is being called on his trolling in the first Rothschild thread.

I wonder what it was in that Dear Israel Lobby, We Give Up thread that needed to be run into the ground, smothered with Ickeian goop.

If you are right, then it is there in the preceding few pages before the thread became bogged down. (at around 16/17?)

[Searcher08]

..Seems a bit childish to be fair.

Childish? More like deliberately running cover for slimmouse, who is being called on his trolling in the first Rothschild thread.

I wonder what it was in that Dear Israel Lobby, We Give Up thread that needed to be run into the ground, smothered with Ickeian goop.

<sigh>
Rory, I covered that in the OP. I had stated a few weeks ago when I first started looking at Pannonica on youtube, that they would be worth a fresh 'Beginners Mind' look. IIRC AD said he thought that would be hard but perhaps worthwhile.
Setting the context for a potentially charged subject is really important - and the context had already been set as a 'show me the money' challenge from the get go. How the context is set can have a big effect on all the communication downstream. Please feel free to discuss all the Ickeian Rothschild Theory in that one and apply all the critical thinking you want.

wintler2, I added the stuff re ecological aspects with the hope you would comment.
Why don't you add some insight into David deRothschilds environmental interests rather than creating snarky metanoise? Or if this is your level of contribution, why not add it in the OTHER Rothschild thread?

The evidence I am looking for that indicates relevance to the OP is... factual dare I say interesting information on the Rothschild clan.

[Rory]

Rory, I covered that in the OP. I had stated a few weeks ago when I first started looking at Pannonica on youtube, that they would be worth a fresh 'Beginners Mind' look.
The evidence I am looking for that indicates relevance to the OP is... factual dare I say interesting information on the Rothschild clan.

That is fair enough, fella. It's not actually anything particular to your contributions in this thread. But immediately after it was posted, another poster (no labels) started posting unsourced, unsubstantiated and, the very kind of Ickean Rothchild related material that was appropriate for the other thread (the one that was created in their honour and requesting of them (in particular), specific answers and at least a link to the information source.)
Considering that it took me one google search to find an online source for the actual Icke book that references lizards, I cannot imagine that there aren't slimmilar links regarding his Rothchild output.

So the question remains to some degree. Why the two threads when this one simply became the first one (to all intents and purposes - to some posters at least) but without the onus on evidencing or links to sources.

[Searcher08]

When one creates a thread to hopefully create an open clear and non-prejudiced exploration of a potentially err difficult subject, and includes appeals to contributors to be objective, and someone then posts what they acknowledge as primarily subjective, there is a choice perhaps of ignoring it and try to set a good example by posting relevantly to the OP. IMHO , yes, that post would certainly have been better in the other thread. If I had stopped, I myself would NOT have been being relevant to the OP.
I am finding this a demanding process, as I am also posting in the other thread in (hopefully) a manner respectful to Bruce's purpose. Hopefully both threads will thrive.

[American Dream]

So this is where slimmouse can run to to avoid having to "put his money where his mouth is" regarding Icke's Rothschild Zionism twaddle.

Is this intended to be a magic land where facts don't matter? Where the pro-Icke version of reality holds true just because the Icke fans believe it, oh and David Icke seems like such a sincere fellow?

And if you don't buy it- and want something approximating a rational argument- well never mind we'll just change the subject or act like we didn't hear? (again!)

[Searcher08]

So this is where slimmouse runs to to avoid having to "put his money where his mouth is" regarding Icke's Rothschild Zionism twaddle.

Is this intended to be a magic land where facts don't matter? Where the pro-Icke version(s) of reality holds true just because the Icke fans believe it, oh and David Icke seems like such a sincere fellow?

And if you don't buy it- want something approximating a rational argument, well never mind we'll just change the subject or act like we didn't hear? (again!)

This thread has nothing to do with DI. This thread isnt about argument.
If you want that please go and debate in the Icke superthread or the the Other thread.

This thread is about information gathering.

AD, please do what YOU can to keep this thread related to the OP.
Please can you help the thread stay on track by helping focus just on the OP, which is to explore and build up factual information about the Rothschild clan. I have no control over how other people post in this thread, I can just appeal to them to participate in the spirit of the OP.

I am trying to model good behaviour regarding the OP while maintaining a forward momentum.

[Searcher08]

The Rothschilds French side appears to have been badly effected by Francois Metterand.

This is from WIki note this is a different David than the young ecologist guy.

Education and early career

Baron David de Rothschild was educated at Institut d'Études Politiques de Paris in Paris from which he graduated in 1966. He began his business career at Société miniére et métallurgique de Peñarroya, one of the family's international mining businesses headquartered in Paris. He then began training in de Rothschild Frères bank.
[edit] French nationalisation

French government reform of banking regulations ended the legal distinction between banques d'affaires and deposit banks and in 1967 de Rothschild Frères became Banque Rothschild, a limited-liability company. David de Rothschild's father was an aggressive businessman who strove to expand the bank and their investments in mining and oil exploration as chairman of Imetal S.A.. However, the family fortunes suffered a severe setback following the election to the French Presidency of the socialist government of François Mitterrand in 1981. The new parliament nationalized a number of large companies and banks including that of the Rothschild family. An angry and discouraged 72-year-old Guy de Rothschild left France for a time and settled in New York City where the family had existing but limited business activities.

[Rory]

With the OP statement in mind, I though we could at least note for reference, evidence of their debauched and extravagant intentions:

Château Mouton Rothschild

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2te ... Rothschild

Château Mouton Rothschild is a wine estate located in the village of Pauillac in the Médoc, 50 km (30 mi) north-west of the city of Bordeaux, France. Its red wine of the same name is regarded as one of the world's greatest clarets. Originally known as Château Brane-Mouton it was renamed by Nathaniel de Rothschild in 1853 to Château Mouton Rothschild. It was the first estate to begin complete château bottling of the harvest.[1]
The branch of the Rothschild family owning Mouton Rothschild are members of the Primum Familiae Vini.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2te ... Rothschild

Château Lafite Rothschild is a wine estate in France, owned by members of the Rothschild family since the 19th century. The name Lafite comes from the Gascon term "la hite" meaning "small hill".

Only four wine-producing Châteaux of Bordeaux achieved First Growth status in the 1855 Classification, which was based on recent prices. Of those, the first one in the list is Château Lafite Rothschild, a consistent producer of one of the world's most expensive red wines.

By all accounts the wine is superb. A steady and stable source for prestige and revenue for the owners. Perhaps part of their devious plot to intoxicate the very rich.

[kenoma]

This thread is about information gathering.

No it's not. It's about Searcher08's



purposeless and issueless attention-seeking.
15 posts out of 26 on this thread are exclusively concerned with the existence of the thread itself. (16/27 after this one obviously).
And this thread is a spinoff of a spinoff from the "Israeli lobby" thread. On top of the spinoff Icke 'superthread'.
Drama-seeking wankery from start to finish.

[DrVolin]

Good point. It is possible to have an informative and useful discussion of the relationship between great banking families and political/nationalist movements. This is not it.

[Bruce Dazzling]

Good point. It is possible to have an informative and useful discussion of the relationship between great banking families and political/nationalist movements. This is not it.

Agreed.

With that in mind, I'm locking this thread.

I'm also locking the Rothschild thread that I started, as it was hastily born from my frustration over the Israel Lobby thread, which is also teetering on the edge of Mount Lock.

Alice has volunteered to start a new thread about the Rothschilds:

This thread is not about the Rothschilds, still less about their relationship with the zionist project. It started off with a mention of Icke, and it's been downhill all the way. Pardon me if I'm being presumptuous, but I propose we toss this misbegotten thread into the garbage, where it belongs, and I promise to start another one soon, with an OP worthy of the subject.

I look forward to it. But let's all remember who we are. This is Rigorous Intuition, NOT Godlike Productions.

Keep it factual and scholarly.