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Re: Kony 2012

Postby justdrew » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:48 pm

as I suspected, The Family is involved...

Hidden links between #Kony2012, "The Family," and Uganda's "Kill the Gays" bill

Bruce Wilson has been looking deeper into ties between Invisible Children, the group behind "Kony 2012," and a secretive fundamentalist Christian organization known variously as The Family and The Fellowship—which, as it turns out, is said to be a force behind Uganda's "Kill the Gays" bill. For a primer on The Family, by the way, there's no better place to start than Jeff Sharlet's book.

What Wilson dug up is now detailed in an extensive blog post. There's a lot to sort through, but it's exhaustively-researched stuff.

At least two of Invisible Children's programs have involved collaboration with The Fellowship and and its members, and by 2007 -- according to accounts from both Invisible Children and Fellowship members -- Invisible Children had partially merged its developing school and mentoring programs in Uganda with The Fellowship's Ugandan educational and leadership training system, which works to raise up a cadre of elite Jesus-centered leaders who will transform their nation along "Biblical" lines - with one apparent objective being the categorical elimination of homosexuality.


Read the whole thing.

Here's an interesting note not included in the report, which Wilson points out to Boing Boing: if you do a search on Google for "schools for schools" you'll find documentation of of Invisible Children fundraising activity in schools across America. Add "bake sale" he says, and "you get schools doing bake sale fundraisers for IC's schools for schools (S4S) program which - it so happens - was being supervised, at least back in 2009 but possibly still - by The Family. So what's the bake sale for?"
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:37 pm

I am shocked so many on the left forgot that Uganda is the most anti gay country in the world, whose own government thinks gays should be hunted down and killed.
And that sell out Obama gives these monsters millions of dollars and even hundreds of US soldiers? It's sickening.

Invisible children IS a right wing fundie cult, it's completely financed by ultra right wing groups who dedicate themselves to stripping gay rights, and it is a solid backer of the brutal Ugandan regime...WHOM I suspect is behind some of the horror blamed on Joseph Kony(not saying he's innocent either) But my god, Kony hasnt even been in Uganda since like forever ago.
Ugandans just want to rebuild their lives. They dont need some smarmy nutjob making propaganda videos.

For such an anti gay world Russel revolves around, its funny that he...uh, doesn't exactly seem like a man's man if ya know what I mean.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:27 pm

justdrew wrote:as I suspected, The Family is involved...

Hidden links between #Kony2012, "The Family," and Uganda's "Kill the Gays" bill

Bruce Wilson has been looking deeper into ties between Invisible Children, the group behind "Kony 2012," and a secretive fundamentalist Christian organization known variously as The Family and The Fellowship—which, as it turns out, is said to be a force behind Uganda's "Kill the Gays" bill. For a primer on The Family, by the way, there's no better place to start than Jeff Sharlet's book.

What Wilson dug up is now detailed in an extensive blog post. There's a lot to sort through, but it's exhaustively-researched stuff.

At least two of Invisible Children's programs have involved collaboration with The Fellowship and and its members, and by 2007 -- according to accounts from both Invisible Children and Fellowship members -- Invisible Children had partially merged its developing school and mentoring programs in Uganda with The Fellowship's Ugandan educational and leadership training system, which works to raise up a cadre of elite Jesus-centered leaders who will transform their nation along "Biblical" lines - with one apparent objective being the categorical elimination of homosexuality.


Read the whole thing.

Here's an interesting note not included in the report, which Wilson points out to Boing Boing: if you do a search on Google for "schools for schools" you'll find documentation of of Invisible Children fundraising activity in schools across America. Add "bake sale" he says, and "you get schools doing bake sale fundraisers for IC's schools for schools (S4S) program which - it so happens - was being supervised, at least back in 2009 but possibly still - by The Family. So what's the bake sale for?"


Long before even Maddow did a special on The Fellowship sect and their relationship with Uganda, I remember you guys on here posting a lot of information about them. Scary stuff.
I wonder if this is the same "Breakfast club"/Fellowship in DC that had Benjamin Creme offer 'prayers' at a meeting a few years ago.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:35 pm

^^Maitreya Creme? Got a source on that? That's nuts. In a very sense-making way.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby wordspeak2 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:58 pm

8bitagent wrote:For such an anti gay world Russel revolves around, its funny that he...uh, doesn't exactly seem like a man's man if ya know what I mean.


That's what we were pointing out a few pages ago- just the post-reality kind of irony of the whole thing.

The other day I had the privilege of telling the entire "Kony" story to my parents, who were out of the country during the peak of it. Very entertaining stuff. ("But what about Angelina Jolie,?" says my mom. I think she's really doing good stuff in one of those countries.")
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:30 pm

wordspeak2 wrote:
8bitagent wrote:For such an anti gay world Russel revolves around, its funny that he...uh, doesn't exactly seem like a man's man if ya know what I mean.


That's what we were pointing out a few pages ago- just the post-reality kind of irony of the whole thing.

The other day I had the privilege of telling the entire "Kony" story to my parents, who were out of the country during the peak of it. Very entertaining stuff. ("But what about Angelina Jolie,?" says my mom. I think she's really doing good stuff in one of those countries.")



I find I have to explain my position on these things. Just like in my anti US invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan a decade ago, I have to caveat with "not that im a big fan of Saddam or the Taliban to say the least". Ive long known about Jo Kony and the LRA, but I *also* know Ugandans have been aggressively working hard to mend and rebuild their lives in the six years Kony has been gone. And thats not even beginning to mention the attrocities Ugandan regular and proxy militias have done in Uganda itself, Congo and elsewhere. Millions died in the Congo conflict, with all sorts of rape/child sacrifice/total evil shit and there was no smarmy hipsters-4-jesus twat or msm outlet making it 'clooney famous'. Adam Curtis did a great job showing how America and the world's thirst for cell phones, PS2 video game machines, etc in the early 2000's was helping to fuel some of these conflicts.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:34 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:^^Maitreya Creme? Got a source on that? That's nuts. In a very sense-making way.


Gah, I need to find it. Someone ages ago on here posted one of those 8 page mainstream news articles talking about faith amongst the corridors of power in DC,
and buried in one of the paragraphs they casually mentioned how *the* Benjamin Creme lead one of the power prayers. Though it may have been more related
to Bush and company than the "fellowship"(which I think Ashcroft belonged to at one point if I recall)
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Re: The Family: Kony 2012

Postby Allegro » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:21 am

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justdrew, thank you for this post, above, which references Invisible Children, The Family and Uganda’s educational and leadership training system.

Within that article is the link to the following essay posted by Talk to Action dot org. Highlighted in the article is a name that connects the three references.

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The following video, excerpted from the page linked just below, describes the co-mingling of Invisible Children’s Ugandan education program called Cornerstone Development with The Fellowship’s (or The Family’s) academy system in Uganda. The name recognized for connecting those groups has been reported as Paul Mwoc Lukwiya, one of The Family’s leading Ugandan teachers.

    From Invisible Children Nonprofit Extensively Tied To “The Family”

    [YOUTUBE NOTES.] This video explores how The Family is tied to Invisible children.

    The Family/Fellowship is a secretive U.S.-based brotherhood of international political and business leaders. Founded in 1935, its growing political clout was brought to widespread public notice with a 2002 Los Angeles Times report by Lisa Getter, then exposed in subsequent articles and two books by journalist Jeff Sharlet: The Family and C Street: The Fundamentalist Threat to American Democracy.

    At least two of Invisible Children’s programs have involved collaboration with The Fellowship and its members. By 2007, Invisible Children was described by both Fellowship and Invisible Children staffers as having partially merged its developing school and mentoring programs in Uganda with The Fellowship’s Ugandan educational and leadership training system, which works to raise up a cadre of elite Jesus-centered leaders who will transform their nation along “Biblical” lines - with one apparent objective being the categorical elimination of homosexuality.

    The stated philosophy of Invisible Children’s Ugandan educational programs closely mirrors the stated philosophy behind The Fellowship’s Cornerstone Leadership academies. Neither program seeks to maximize educational opportunities for large numbers of Ugandans. Rather, both programs foster small numbers of exceptionally talented students selected from at-risk populations; both programs also state explicitly that their goal is to raise up a generation of Ugandan leaders who will transform their nation.

    Toward that end, both programs employ mentors who are paired with individual students and provide a crucial quasi-parental support system. Further, both mentoring programs have been supervised by Ugandan Fellowship member Paul Lukwiya, now Education Director for The Fellowship’s Ugandan leadership training schools.

    In Spring 2007 - little more than a year and a half after the Invisible Children nonprofit was launched - Paul Lukwiya is reported to have traveled with IC members to the United States, where he spoke before an April 28, 2007 Invisible Children Seattle rally.

    “Invisible Children’s connection to The Fellowship’s network provides an explanation of IC’s early access to internationally powerful politicians; less than a year after the nonprofit was launched in 2005, Invisible Children had already gained political backing, from U.S. Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) and Ugandan president Yoweri Museveni, both important Fellowship members,” according to Wilson’s research.

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8bitagent on Benjamin Creme : Kony 2012

Postby Allegro » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:59 am

in one of his responses above, 8bitagent wrote:
in response to a previous post by 8bitagent, Wombaticus Rex wrote:^^Maitreya Creme? Got a source on that? That’s nuts. In a very sense-making way.

Gah, I need to find it. Someone ages ago on here posted one of those 8 page mainstream news articles talking about faith amongst the corridors of power in DC,
and buried in one of the paragraphs they casually mentioned how *the* Benjamin Creme lead one of the power prayers. Though it may have been more related
to Bush and company than the "fellowship"(which I think Ashcroft belonged to at one point if I recall)
I did research in RI’s files, and I didn’t find inferred or substantive associations between Benjamin Creme (and Maitreya) and keywords: prayer, Bush, fellowship, family, Ashcroft. Perhaps, someone would find my research lacking. Please, do so. Thanks.

I did read, again, that John Ashcroft had been associated with The Family via Sharlet’s (index in his) book by that name as well as here, too.

From my POV after researching RI archives, if someone had correctly connected Creme and Maitreya to The Family, it would’ve been nathan28, I think.

Anyway, that’s about an hour’s research in the archives I thoroughly enjoyed yet without intended verifications.
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Re: 8bitagent on Benjamin Creme : Kony 2012

Postby Luther Blissett » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:48 pm

Allegro wrote:
in one of his responses above, 8bitagent wrote:
in response to a previous post by 8bitagent, Wombaticus Rex wrote:^^Maitreya Creme? Got a source on that? That’s nuts. In a very sense-making way.

Gah, I need to find it. Someone ages ago on here posted one of those 8 page mainstream news articles talking about faith amongst the corridors of power in DC,
and buried in one of the paragraphs they casually mentioned how *the* Benjamin Creme lead one of the power prayers. Though it may have been more related
to Bush and company than the "fellowship"(which I think Ashcroft belonged to at one point if I recall)
I did research in RI’s files, and I didn’t find inferred or substantive associations between Benjamin Creme (and Maitreya) and keywords: prayer, Bush, fellowship, family, Ashcroft. Perhaps, someone would find my research lacking. Please, do so. Thanks.

I did read, again, that John Ashcroft had been associated with The Family via Sharlet’s (index in his) book by that name as well as here, too.

From my POV after researching RI archives, if someone had correctly connected Creme and Maitreya to The Family, it would’ve been nathan28, I think.

Anyway, that’s about an hour’s research in the archives I thoroughly enjoyed yet without intended verifications.


I have a hunch it was a Harper's piece, if that helps. Posting from my phone, so I'm no big help.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby vanlose kid » Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:26 pm

not sure if this is of any use to all y'all (i might have misunderstood) but here's wiki on Maitreya and Creme.

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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Allegro » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:03 pm

vanlose kid wrote:not sure if this is of any use to all y'all (i might have misunderstood) but here's wiki on Maitreya and Creme.

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Thanks, VK. Wiki is generally my first stop when research begins unless I know where to begin examining elsewhere. There are no references on that Wiki page to keywords suggested in an earlier post.

Not finding direct identifications between suggested keywords (as pray, prayer, Bush, fellowship, family, Ashcroft) with Benjamin Creme, presuppositions at this point cannot I don’t think be validated at Wiki or RI archives; my simple search at Harper’s just now doesn’t show Benjamin Creme, at all.

So, I’m done on this one until someone can identify and probe theories at RI or elsewhere wrt to Creme and The Family.

To say again, it was great to read posts of various RI thinkers and writers in earlier days.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby MayDay » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:06 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:^^Maitreya Creme? Got a source on that? That's nuts. In a very sense-making way.





viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16125&p=166231&hilit=+the+fellowship+benjamin+creme+#p166231
chiggerbit wrote:8bit, you mentioned The Fellowship. Were you aware that Hillary has belonged to one of their prayer groups since 1993, when she and Bill first moved to DC? I can understand that most prayer is private, and the public shouldn't expect that something that intimate should always be performed in public. But there is something creepy about that group, especially the part where they convince these people that they have been chosen by God to lead the world.


I didn't, but I did read about Bush and Washington DC officials meeting with Benjamin Creme types.

Isnt it funny how these evangelical "Christian" politicians are serving the same Satanic masters they claim to be against in a way?[/quote]

American Dream wrote:8bitagent wrote:
I did read about Bush and Washington DC officials meeting with Benjamin Creme types.


That is fascinating. Could you please give more information?


8bitagent wrote:
American Dream wrote:8bitagent wrote:
I did read about Bush and Washington DC officials meeting with Benjamin Creme types.


That is fascinating. Could you please give more information?


Im trying to remember the key words to google. I don't even remember it being a "conspiracy site", it was saying how Bush and Washington DC fat cats
were having new age prayer stuff with either Creme or a Creme type a few years ago. I kid you not. Damn, I wish I could remember how to find it.

It seems like behind every American and British President are occult mediums, and Rockefeller and Kissinger have been noted to have em' within Lucis Trust.


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chiggerbit wrote:The Fellowship's God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators. Clinton, says Schenck, has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance


Well thankfully we know what "God" they're worshipping

This is another perfect example of white is black, black is white; and how many times Evangelical Christian sects are nothing more than Lucerferianism.

In fact, I've read a number of mainstream articles how Bush and DC insiders have met with and held private channeller groups with
Benjamin Creme/Lucis Trust type folks.

I remember first hearing about this "Fellowship", and how involved John Ashcroft was.

EDIT: Just learning how to use this. (could use a little instruction) All of the stuff out of quote boxes was from 8bitagent back in early '08. Not sure how to get that stuff into quote boxes.
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Keith Harmon Snow: Kony 2012

Postby Allegro » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:31 pm

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Keith Harmon Snow on Kony 2012 | Clooney, Kony, Congress, and Sudan
— Submitted by Ann Garrison | Mon, 03/26/2012 - 23:39

    KPFA Weekend News, 03.17.2012: Veteran Africa war correspondent and human rights investigator Keith Harmon Snow says that George Clooney’s arrest at the Sudanese Embassy, his advocacy for Africa, and the raft of House and Senate bills introduced in response to KONY 2012, mask imperial, economic, white supremacist, and fundamentalist Christian collaboration.

    [EXCERPT YOUTUBE NOTES]. …At least three resolutions have been introduced into the U.S. House of Representatives regarding the hunt for minor East African warlord Joseph Kony since KONY 2012 became the most viral video in history. Congressman Ed Royce, R-CA, introduced H.R. 583 with New York Congressman Jim McGovern, D-MA, and McGovern introduced H.R. 4169, which includes provisions to impose sanctions on any government, pointedly “including the Republic of Sudan” thought to be lending any support to Kony. Royce held a press conference in Orange County, California, while George Clooney was being arrested, with plastic handcuffs, protesting at the Sudanese Embassy in Washington D.C., along with McGovern and other Congressmen and civic leaders.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:49 am

If George Clooney is involved, ya got a CIA-Hollywood agenda afoot.
Clooney is as witting as Tom Hanks in the US agenda. A player.

The US postures over Sudan just to demonize China's role in the region.
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