by biaothanatoi » Wed May 24, 2006 3:50 am
We all know about Lanning's infamous "nobody asked me to but I'll write it anyway" report in which he claims there is no evidence for organised ritualistic abuse ... despite, you know, all those pesky prosecutions and confessions.<br><br>I just came across this:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Ken Lanning, an FBI special agent who took part in investigations, this week said: "I sometimes refer to snuff movies as the Holy Grail of porn", but added, "It is the ultimate thing that you can find. But nobody has ever found it yet." (<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>G-men's 25-year search for Holy Grail of porn</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, Stephen Naysmith, 23 April 2000, Sunday Herald).<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>That contradicts a 1990 statement by Detective Superintendent Michael Hames (head of Scotland Yard's child pornography squad) who said: <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>“In America, the FBI went undercover to a meeting of people invited to watch a snuff movie with a view to buying a copy and the fee to attend the showing alone was 10,000 dollars." (<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>British police probe "snuff movies" in child murder hunt</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, 27 July 1990, Reuters News).<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br>At this point, I should say that, before the advent of the Internet, there are very few reports of law enforcement agencies ever actually seeing a snuff movie, although a stash of them was allegedly uncovered in Scotland in 1997 (Snuff video haul, 17 February 1997, Scottish Daily Record). <br><br>However, during child abduction/murder investigations throughout the 80s and 90s, a number of police informers and witnesses claimed to have viewed snuff movies in America and throughout Europe. Key informants made consistent disclosures about the nature of the trade in snuff movies: That is, it was made to order, with very small numbers of copies being circulated at a cost of literally thousands of dollars each. <br><br>Andrew Boyd's informants in his expose of ritual abuse in England ("Blasphemous Rumours") claimed to know of occult stores where ritual abuse snuff porn was sold under the counter for thousands of pounds a tape. <br><br>Post 2000, the advent of the Internet has revolutionised (you might say "democratised") the black market in child porn, and the clientele for snuff movies appears to have broadened beyond rich deviants. In short, Lanning's "Holy Grail" has been found all over the world. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Scotland:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> "Detectives who found Simon Harris hanged at his home on Sunday uncovered a stash of child porn. The hoard - hidden in his shed and the house - included computer images, photos and snuff movies." (Child porn stash found in murder suspect's house, Amy Devine, 30 August 2005, Scottish Daily Record).<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>South Africa:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> "In a gruesome case which has shocked South Africa, Ronnie Grimsley was jailed for life last week for his assault on 18-year-old Tanya Flowerday. <br><br>... police who investigated the case remain convinced Tanya was killed after featuring in a snuff movie where victims are filmed as they are raped and murdered. They believed the disturbing video evidence has since been sold overseas." (Fiend raped and killed teenager in grotesque snuff movie execution, Ruairi O'Kane, 2 August 2005, The Daily Express)<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Britain:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> "... During a harrowing trial at Lewes crown court, the jury had heard that Coutts, who kept Ms Longhurst's body for almost a month and visited it frequently while it was in a storage unit, was an avid user of sites devoted to snuff movies and necrophilia." (Killer was obsessed by porn websites, Steven Morris, 5 February 2004, The Guardian)<br><br>"... Speaking in a trembling voice, she also told how she was forced to watch DVD snuff movies. She said one of her attackers had said: "We are killers, you know." (Court hears of schoolgirl's abuse by footballers gang, 19 November 2004, Daily Star)<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Netherlands:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> "The undercover officer asked Spinks if he could get him a sado-masochistic video featuring boys as young as 10, and Spinks replied that he knew people in Amsterdam who could: `I know, well I knew, some people who were involved in making snuff movies and how they did it was, they only sold them in limited editions, made 10 copies or something, 10 very rich customers in America, who paid $5,000 each or something like that". " (When sex abuse can lead to murder, Nick Davies, 27 November 2000, The Guardian)<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Ireland:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> "... A special police unit was able to infiltrate a paedophile network, intercepting packages of pornographic material arriving by mail and then having them delivered by undercover policemen, dressed as postmen and carrying hidden cameras. Thousands of tapes and digital disks, seized during raids on 600 homes, included scenes in which minors - possibly orphans or kidnap victims, some aged only two - were raped. One videotape, costing #4, appears to have been a "snuff movie", showing the killing of a child." (TV personality row eclipses paedophile pornography, By PADDY AGNEW, 4 October 2000, Irish Times)<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Russia:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> "Last week Italian police seized 3,000 of Kuznetsov's videos on their way to clients in Italy, sparking an international hunt for paedophiles who have bought his products. The Italian investigators say the material includes footage of children dying during abuse. Prosecutors in Naples are considering charging those who have bought the videos with complicity in murder. They say some may have specifically requested films of killings. " (British link to 'snuff' videos, By Jason Burke, Amelia Gentleman, Philip Willan, 1 October 2000, The Observer)<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Furthermore</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->: In 2003, Interpol assistant director Hamish McCulloch stated: "There is no doubt that such films exist, many of which are available via the internet." (Snuff Movies: Fact or Fiction? 16 October 2003, SAPA)<br><br>So what is the real deal with Kenneth Lanning? He claims that the FBI has found no evidence of snuff movies in 25 years, when the FBI passed on information to Scotland Yard in the late 1980s that suggested otherwise. <br><br>He has since been proven to have been emphatically wrong - should we expect a retraction? Is snuff another crime that won't be prosecuted because nobody will accept that it is happening? Why does Lanning keep denying the horrifying lived experience of ritual abuse survivors and exploited women and children around the world? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=biaothanatoi@rigorousintuition>biaothanatoi</A> at: 5/24/06 1:57 am<br></i>