Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

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Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby barracuda » Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:54 pm

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David Paulides, a former policeman, had compiled enough data to notice that these isolated missing person cases were beginning to form clusters around certain mountainous regions. These clusters were of some of the most eerie cases he had uncovered in which missing people –children mostly– vanished into oblivion. Sometimes the only clues left by the unfortunate souls were just their clothing, neatly piled.

This bizarre phenomenon has an even more bizarre beginning. According to Mr. Paulides, his painstakingly and meticulous research didn’t come from an abrupt curiosity. He was visited one night by a government employee who had very interesting information to give up. Mr. Paulides came to find out that some of the missing people disappeared under unexplainable circumstances. Children climbing mountain ranges in short time or those children who crossed rapid-moving rivers that were found alive and had no recollection of how they’d arrived on the other side.


http://www.ghosttheory.com/2012/06/28/t ... phenomenon



Read Missing 411 book
This book was not what I expected. David Paulides recorded many cases I had never heard of, some of them going back a century or more. Some of those people are not listed with law enforcement or on missing persons databases anywhere. Many of his stories were remarkably creepy and made me want to never go anywhere near a national park again. I mean, I’ve gone on hiking trips in national parks in both the U.S. and Canada and nothing terrible happened, but…dang.

What was creepy about the book was not so much the stories about people who disappeared forever — after all, I read and write about missing people every day — but about people, mostly children, who disappeared and then were found in places where they should not, could not, be. Mind you, many of the adult disappearances were creepy too, but it was the children that struck me: small children and toddlers vanishing from campsites, etc., and turning up far outside the search grid, miles away and thousands of feet uphill. In one case, a kid turned up twelve miles away, nineteen hours after he disappeared, with numerous fences and creeks and two mountains between him and the place he’d disappeared from. Many adults could not have walked that far over that kind of terrain in that amount of time. I’m pretty sure I couldn’t. This boy was two.

The children were often naked or semi-naked when found (but none of their missing clothes were ever located) and sometimes they were covered in scratches but sometimes they didn’t have a scratch on them. If they were dead the cause of death was generally given as exposure, dehydration etc. If they were alive they were often in remarkably good shape for the time they’d been missing and either couldn’t remember any of it, or told some very strange stories.

Obviously, it would be difficult if not impossible for a two-year-old or whatever to walk for miles and climb thousands of feet up steep mountainsides in rugged wilderness areas. It also defies logic: lost children tend to travel downhill, that being the path of least resistance, and if they’re old enough they also realize civilization is in that direction. Furthermore, if by some miracle a child was able to travel that far undetected, you’d think they would have considerable scratches, scrapes etc. on them. This was often not the case. Some of the children were barefoot when they disappeared and barefoot when they were located, but their feet were in good condition, not like you’d expect from someone who’d walked all that way in the woods or mountains or desert. The implication is that these children were carried to wherever they were found.

Undoubtedly some of these cases, both deaths and disappearances, must be foul play, abductions. In fact, both Thomas Bowman and Bruce Kremen, two of the people profiled in the book, are presumed victims of the serial killer Mack Ray Edwards, a fact Paulides fails to mention (an odd omission on his part, IMHO). It’s equally likely that at least a few of the disappearances and deaths are suicides. But certainly those theories cannot explain all of them.

When Paulides wrote about Michelle Vanek, an adult woman who vanished without a trace during a mountain climbing trip (and whose disappearance is much creepier than I realized), he carefully discusses and then rules out foul play at the hands of her climbing partner, natural causes, or even the idea that she’s still on the mountain somewhere — he says tracker dogs couldn’t pick up a scent, the mountain had no trees and it was “saturated with searchers” as well as helicopters. No one ever found a trace of her, not even one of her ski poles. Paulides concludes, “Something catastrophic happened to Michelle Vanek, something that none of us could have probably survived.” I’m in agreement there…but what was the “catastrophe” that happened?

The book is sold by the North American Bigfoot Search website and the author has written books about Bigfoot, so I figured he would implicate Bigfoot in some of the disappearances. Although he never actually says “Bigfoot” he does imply it on several occasions. Bigfoot or some other unknown wild creature. (He discusses known wild creatures, bears and stuff, but says their behavior would not lead to these kind of events.) Or something else, something paranormal, evil — something that seems to be hunting people. And, if everything he writes in this book is accurate, I can’t say he’s wrong.

Equally disturbing is the National Park Service’s attitude about people missing on their land. They do not keep adequate records of disappearances and don’t even have any list of all the people that vanished and are still missing from their parks. Paulides claims they blocked most of his efforts to research his book and told him they’d do the research themselves, if he paid them $37k $35k. He also believes they’re too quick to write off an MP as dead — perhaps, he says, it’s so they can close the case and forget about it. And if a person turns up, even under bizarre circumstances (like the two-year-old marathoner I mentioned above), there is no further investigation. The two-year-old was pretty much dusted off and handed back to his parents.

I understand the NPS is not a law enforcement agency, but their refusal to even keep a list of people who have gone missing seems quite negligent. I understand they don’t want to scare people away from visiting the parks, but they ought to be equally concerned about visitor safety.


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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:53 pm

I'm making the mistake of reading about some of these cases a mere month before taking my extremely inexperienced girlfriend on a hike. Granted, it will be a moderately easy hike, in a well-trafficked area, and will involve a cabin as opposed to a tent, but she knows little to nothing about the outdoors. The Vanek case is giving me chills.

Can anyone find any information on the Abe Ramsey (Ramsay?) case? From the comments on the link above, it's a notable omission, but I want to know why.
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby StarmanSkye » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:03 pm

:shock:

This is just SO freakin' wierd-like RI bizarre.

Inadvertant shape-shifting or trans-dimensional abduction?

Kinda reminds me of a neat book I have, Unexplained Mysteries. About VERY strange occurances and findings that shouldn't be but are. This book could almost be a companion volume to it!
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby barracuda » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:06 pm

Let me say that I'm not really as interested in the Bigfoot angle here as the National Parks clustering, because if I had ran a government organization for abducting people, that might be a logical place to center such activities. IOW, these data points may be worth examining for reasons that have nothing to do with the supernatural.
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:19 pm

An interesting example of reality tunnels at work, I suppose: I look at the evidence and large hairy cryptoids are not the suspect that springs to mind.

Chilling and compelling stuff, though.
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby Burnt Hill » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:21 pm

barracuda wrote:Let me say that I'm not really as interested in the Bigfoot angle here as the National Parks clustering, because if I had ran a government organization for abducting people, that might be a logical place to center such activities. IOW, these data points may be worth examining for reasons that have nothing to do with the supernatural.

Not just a government organization for abducting people, but any group, or anybody with such motivations.
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby Burnt Hill » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:34 pm

The Bennington Triangle
Vile Vortice, UFO Abduction, Bigfoot, or Unsolved Murder?
http://www.paranormal-encyclopedia.com/b/bennington-triangle/

The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
"Stopping by the Woods On a Snowing Evening" –Robert Frost (1874-1963)


Seventy-four year old, Middie Rivers was familiar with the area wilderness. An experienced hunting and fishing guide, on November 12, 1945, he escorted a party of four hunters into the mountain woodlands. Leading the way back to their campsite, Middie disappeared from view and vanished leaving only one clue. After an extensive search, investigators found a single bullet beside a streambed but no trace of Middie was ever found.

Rivers's disappearance was the first in a series of missing persons over the next five years. A year later, on December 1, 1946 Paula Weldon, a sophomore at Bennington College vanished while hiking along Glastenbury Mountain's "Long Trail". A couple behind her reported they had seen her turn a corner, but when they reached the corner, Weldon was gone. Although the ensuing manhunt brought in the FBI and even used a clairvoyant, as in the case of Middie Rivers, no trace of Paula Weldon was ever found.

Exactly three years later, on December 1, 1949, James E. Tetford, a resident of Bennington Soldier's Home disappeared from a commercial bus. Although he was seen boarding the bus and at the stop before Bennington, when the bus reached its destination, Tetford was gone. Although his luggage was found in the luggage rack and a bus timetable lay open on his seat James E. Tetford was never again seen.

On Columbus Day 1950, eight-year-old Paul Jepson disappeared from the family farm. No trace of the child or his bright red coat was ever found, although hundreds of volunteers combed the mountainside in search of him.

Not quite three weeks later, 53-year-old Frieda Langer slipped into a mountain stream while hiking with her cousin. Promising her cousin that she'd catch up with him after changing into dry clothes, Frieda disappeared on the walk back to camp. Hers was the only body found, but not until the next spring. On May 12, 1951, Frieda Langer's decomposed body emerged near the Somerset Reservoir, although the area had been thoroughly searched at the time of her disappearance. Oddly enough, the one "solved" disappearance was the final disappearance on Glastenbury Mountain.

Because four of the five disappearances remain unsolved, rumors and theories are plentiful. Indian legend tells of a "rock that swallows" those who step on it. Some folks believe that the Bigfoot-like "Bennington Monster" is responsible for the mishaps. Of course, others cite alien abductions as a possible cause and some speculators talk about a gateway to some new dimension. Were these five autumn disappearances the work of a serial killer or just a string of coincidental misadventures? For now, mysterious Glastenbury Mountain hides the secrets behind the Bennington Triangle.
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby jingofever » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:09 pm

Apparently it is not unusual to get confused coming down Mount of the Holy Cross and wander off the path. The body of a different missing hiker was found there recently. I hear Hanging Rock is also known for disappearances.
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby barracuda » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:12 pm

Burnt Hill wrote:Not just a government organization for abducting people, but any group, or anybody with such motivations.


Fair enough, but the presence of a well-connected existing bureaucracy/infrastructure could hold organizational advantages.

Not that any of this might make Luther feel much better about his trip...

Luther Blissett wrote:...will involve a cabin as opposed to a tent,


A cabin, you say? In the woods, perhaps?

What could go wrong?
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby freemason9 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:50 pm

on the other hand, it is rather difficult to become seriously lost in a cornfield
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby barracuda » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:30 pm

But it does happen, per examples such as Orion Williamson and Jessie Chmiel. And again, just as serial killers often dump victims where people commonly don't go, abductions may center in places where people commonly get lost.
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby Burnt Hill » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:55 pm

barracuda wrote:
Burnt Hill wrote:Not just a government organization for abducting people, but any group, or anybody with such motivations.


Fair enough, but the presence of a well-connected existing bureaucracy/infrastructure could hold organizational advantages.

Not that any of this might make Luther feel much better about his trip...

Yes, particularly when you add the possibility of underground bunkers and such.
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby bks » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:59 pm

I'm not convinced anything untoward is going on here. 411 disappearances over 100 years seems like a really small number. The clustering makes sense, since one would expect there to be more disappearances in remote areas that see a good deal of traffic (which is pretty much the description of national parks), than in other less-traveled remote places,
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:04 am

We're going to be in a place that I'm a little familiar with, and as a lifelong mysteryhound I am nearly certain that it is a notoriously unmysterious, non-sinister, non-folkloric, unlegegendary but beautiful place. But now, I'm going to rifle through my resources for any possible mention of any myth from the general area in the last century.

Bks, I assumed it was only 411 select cases. Reviews seem to mention tons of notable exclusions, like Abe Ramsey.
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Re: Strange clusterings of missing persons cases.

Postby zuestorz » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:27 am

jingofever wrote:. . . I hear Hanging Rock is also known for disappearances.


Hanging Rock? A mere picnic compared to Hamelin.

barracuda wrote:Let me say that I'm not really as interested in the Bigfoot angle here as the National Parks clustering, because if I had ran a government organization for abducting people, that might be a logical place to center such activities. IOW, these data points may be worth examining for reasons that have nothing to do with the supernatural


Burnt Hill wrote:Not just a government organization for abducting people, but any group, or anybody with such motivations.


Those are awfully smelly shoes to want to walk a mile in guys. But I'll join you. Compartmentalize function. Then in stages corporatize elements of the requirement. Ultimately outsource the project in its entirety to the commercial and/or other concerned parties. I suspect its been that way since the 1950s. But conjecture and quotas aside, at bottom this is all about the pain and suffering of the innocent. Unpardonably smelly shoes to walk a mile in.

Thanks Barracuda awesome but disturbing stuff.
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