I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc.)

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Postby Hammer of Los » Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:42 am

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The film came to me in a visual form. That is I kept seeing vivid images and symbols and I decided to follow these and see where they led...

So the film is about a journey through the landscape of my personal suffering using very universal symbols, a journey that leads to a more peaceful abiding place...

Having said that, the story is clearly about the crumbling away of the hierarchical world based on control and the rising up of the spiritual man, awake to his divine nature, free of intermediaries..

I am very interested in mystical writings whether Christian, Sufiism, Advaita, Zen or others.



God bless Louis Lefebvre.

Another student of comparative mysticism.

They're everywhere nowadays.

I wish I could work with someone like Louis.

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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:33 am

I think he is holding back/being coy. There is layer upon layer of symbolism. So rich and full of code.

I also encourage anyone coming to page 3 to look at page 2 and what V-kid posted there.


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I, Pet Goat II a Short Film
by TopherMorrison on July 7, 2012 in Featured

In the vein of Tim Burton the newest film by Louis Lefebvre and Canadian film studio Heliofant was released on New America Now. It delves into a mysterious wonderland of surrealism populated by ethereal and mythological characters. With no dialogue the creators of “I Pet Goat II” have spoken volumes. Its an amalgam of the alternative underworld, a remix of conspiracy pop culture and intrigue formed as the body of truth embodying the decline of Western civilization. Heliofant’s film is both elegant and bizarre.

The film begins showing the similar powers animating George W. Bush and Barack Obama ironically in the famous classroom of 9/11. Pulling back into a dystopic frozen netherworld towers of ice crumble in the background just as they did in New York that fateful day in 2001. The scene is lonely and isolated.

Beyond, the armies of Al-Qaeda – the CIA’s foreign legion – march on illustrating the incongruent and often abstruse “War on Terror.” Jesus makes his entrance with a burning heart drawn in powerful Dia de los Muertos style. Lefebvre illustrates modernity’s broken mind preyed upon by propaganda and social engineering. Within the frosty expanse we visit third world wars, color revolution, a dancing dervish, protests and the perpetual march of neoliberal empire.

The dystopia is finally pierced by a rising sun. Is it possibly a rebirth? There is hope that it is so, as the previous paradigm crumbles in the background. It is a poignant film describing what many already know: the threshold of change is upon us.
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http://www.greenewave.com/film-review-of-i-pet-goat-ii/

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I include this one as it has footage on BUSH in the classroom. Not sure how I never saw this! Check out the video from minute 1 to minute mark 1:48.
'Plane...must...hit...steel'? Did this actually go on? Otherwise, the video is heavy on religious. Maybe worth watching for bible reference, maybe not.
Clear bias/biblical blindness (imo) and such apply-



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And I include this to comare to the squibs going off and dust in the animation-

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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:25 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:I include this one as it has footage on BUSH in the classroom. Not sure how I never saw this! Check out the video from minute 1 to minute mark 1:48.
'Plane...must...hit...steel'? Did this actually go on? Otherwise, the video is heavy on religious. Maybe worth watching for bible reference, maybe not.
Clear bias/biblical blindness (imo) and such apply-



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911 - KITE - PLANE - MUST - HIT - STEEL

What is a "KITE - PLANE" - it is a Radio-Controlled plane - controlled from the ground! [Are we now not all aware of DRONE (i.e. Kite) PLANES?][Planes very carefully controlled from the ground - as from (NORAD or) the PEOC under the White House?(V-P in Charge)]

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The "Fairy Tale" of the Official Story of 911 & the book read by the teacher of "THE PET GOAT" links to very SENIOR FREEMASONRY as the true connecting instrument!

There were some VERY important words that the teacher [Mrs Sandra Daniels] was asked to read to the children at the Emma E. BOOKER Elementary school at Sarasota, Florida.

[The school was named after Emma E. Booker, an African-American educator who founded the first black school in Sarasota County, Florida]. The book from which the story was read was very carefully selected: "THE PET GOAT" - as in PAN as in BEL as in BAPHOMET as in the SATANIC GOAT of MENDES of Senior FREEMASONRY["ILLUMINATI"]!

The 5 (five) specific words that had to be read before the deep BOW [as obeisance - but THE CHILDREN (symbolic of the US People) DID NOT UNDERSTAND - just as most of the 310+ Million US citizens did not understand and too many STILL do NOT understand!

The 5 (five) words were CODE words [of which the POTUS knew - yet he will deny he knew] which explained/explains all:
i) KITE
ii) HIT
iii) STEEL
iv) PLANE
v) MUST

ORDER must be formed out of CHAOS - ORDO AB CHAO
[maxim/motto of the ILLUMINATI (i.e. Senior Freemasonry)]
The next word [for FREEMASONS is the number 4 (square)] after "KITE" - so "PLANE" must come next in this purported puzzle! The following word [for FREEMASONS is the number 5 (pentagram)] after "PLANE" must come the word "MUST"... so the words MUST read as follows:

i) KITE
ii) PLANE
iii) MUST
iv) HIT
v) STEEL

A "KITE PLANE" is a radio-controlled plane - controlled from the ground.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F3ToBm1vj8

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I, Pet Goat II : le studio montréalais Heliofant fait un tabac
Auteur: Jean-François Cloutier
Date: Vendredi, 6 juillet, 2012

I, Pet Goat II, un nouveau studio d’animation installé à Montréal offre un mélange de symbolique du monde moderne présenté avec un niveau de perfection presque inégalé.

Une fois temps en temps je tombe sur un film animé qui est si frais et si bizarre que c’est presque impossible à décrire. Les meilleurs fims vont innover du côté de l’histoire, ou sur le style. Mais c’est très rare de voir un film qui va innover partout. Ça n’arrive pas souvent Please Say Something de David OReilly, Between Bears de Eran Hilleli, Ryan de Chris Landreth sans oublier Rosa de Jesus Orellana.
Aujourd’hui nous vous présentons un court métrage d’animation surréaliste, pour ne pas dire complètement décalé, I, Pet Goat II du studio d’animation montréalais Heliofant.
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I, Pet Goat II est un film assez difficile à disséquer, mais je vais essayer. Premièrement, l’histoire n’est pas une narration, mais plutôt une critique sur l’Amérique moderne et la guerre contre la terreur, le fondamentalisme religieux, le militarisme en Afrique, le totalitarisme en Chine et l’exploitation partout dans le monde (ce qui peut paraitre un peu gros et pesant pour nous occidental). C’est rempli de symbolique mélangé à des images et des lieux surréels et des personnages bizarres.

Deuxièmement, c’est très théâtral. Il y a beaucoup de danse, il a des personnages peinturés comme des figurines de plastique. Même que l’édition à un touche de The Red Curtain Trilogy de Baz Luhrmann. Les mouvements du film sont une de ses grandes forces, la capture de mouvement est utilisée pour environ la moitié de l’animation, ce qui donne un côté réel à tout ce surréalisme. En gros, prenez votre temps et admirez cette nouvelle animation et si vous avez le temps, je vous invite à regarder I, Pet Goat II une seconde fois afin d’analyser tous les symboliques occultes qu’il contient.

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Postby vanlose kid » Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:24 pm

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can i say, bearing in mind that i spent some time with this clip doing something similar, that this vid you posted goes completely off the rails? nuts.

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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby vanlose kid » Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:21 pm

oh canada.



Rotterdam, goddamn this starving go against, and then tar / mulling up the opposed modernity / And I heard them scream / we are many, we are many / we are / And in the Hague, I did proclaim 'cause then I'll find god in the gutter / You'll catch the dead and bury them with old words / when the hours begin to flee I will sing Recover me / We are many, we are many, we are dust / We are many, we are many, we are dust / and to dust we will all return / Oh I, whole night, I heard you sing only dreamers, dead times, and dirty kings / Oh I, whole night, I heard you sing O death, where is thy sting / Does it feed on eager limbs / How will the body know / I was caught in the eye with a nightingale / Hold the water, let it burn / Some lives may dig deep but my cold crime is clean / If I show you my hands, will you carry the beast / We are many, We are many / We are dust / And to dust we will all return



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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:09 pm

Oh yes sir, whackadoo. I was mainly just taken with the one minute of kids saying 'plane must hit steel' in front of Bush. I didn't know that tid-bit. I find it very interesting.
But the rest, well, maybe there is some religious info there, but the broad strokes he makes are lunacy.

So I was looking about and found this-

Some observations:
0:09 - The Goat (general public) stares as if in a trance while boxed and caged. A barcode (like our Social Security Number) is stamped on his forehead.
hank1961 2 minutes ago
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0:30 - Bush distracts the public while dancing under a pentagram spotlight.
0:37 - On the wall of the classroom, a map of USA hangs with push-pins on NYC, New Orleans, Oklahoma City, and the Gulf of Mexico (BP's Deep Horizon?).
0:54 - Also on the wall, picture of the human brain with the hemispheres separated (so not fully functional). An image of a dragon is mounted next to the brain, with tongue nearly touching the right hemisphere.
hank1961 3 minutes ago
1:05 - Bush morphs into Obama. The public realizing Bush is puppet, is "upgraded" Same puppet master, different puppet.
1:45 - Psalm 23 graffiti on the school wall.
1:55 - As the towers fall, squibs can be seen supporting the theory that the collapse was a controlled demolition.
2:04 - A figure, wearing a persona of sadness, falls from height. (as victims of WTC on 9/11 did?)
hank1961 3 minutes ago
2:14 - Osama bin Laden is shown with the emblem of the CIA on his field jacket. (The CIA support the mujahidin to take control of Afghanistan and it's resources)
2:20 - An oil well is shown in the distance and oil drips into the sea.
2:30 - As we zoom up to the Lady of Helotry (Statue of Liberty) her torch, representing progress, breaks away and falls. The country falls into darkness.
hank1961 3 minutes ago
2:40 - The burning heart of Christ conscience floating on the raft of Anubis continues his journey.
2:43 - Unlike Drako's "Eye of Providence" which is at the top of the pyramid (like US currency), the Christ's figure has his at the bottom. (Think the 1% versus the 99%)
2:27 - A Star of David is shown under Lady Liberty. (Israel and the US, who controls who?)
hank1961 4 minutes ago
2:34 - Drako awaits the birth of Ludovic (one who is illustrious in combat) from the Orphic Egg.
2:55 - Ludovic lies on the ground incapacitated by Dracko (TV screen representing the mass media?)and his temptations, especially money.
3:00 - The US attacks Islam under the false flag pretense. The war profits begin.
3:11 - Another figure is shown wearing the sadness persona (does the feathered headdress represent the Native Americans?)
hank1961 4 minutes ago
3:14 - The Virgin Mary holds an Islamic victim of the US's attack while a mushroom cloud grows in the background. A scarab beetle walks across the boy perhaps to assist him in his transformation.
3:23 - A Somali pirate with an African child soldier (bride?).
3:30 - Juan Pepito is swallowed alive (the US's attempt to destroy Cuba and socialism?)
3:36 - Death visits Sun-Sue, perhaps to remind her of mortality.
hank1961 4 minutes ago
4:00 - Ludovic attempts to resist Drako's hold on him.
4:05 - The Fire of Truth enlightens the world.
4:20 - L'enfant bleu, wearing the mask of the Kali (goddess of empowerment and change) dances by the flames.
4:35 - The old woman (Madame Q) representing women, who over the ages have dominated and repressed by males and religion is finally freed.
5:00 - Christ conscience destroys the terracotta army of "stuffed suits" (capitalism?)
hank1961 5 minutes ago
5:12 - Ludovic "sees the light" and breaks free from Drako's control.
5:30 - Keeper of the flame goes through transformations.
5:48 - As the Christ conscience exits the ice cathedral, he spiritually awakenings, breaking the bondage of religion and attaining enlightenment and liberation from the forces of darkness. Lotus blossoms (rebirth and purity) in the wake of the Christ conscience as gazes into the Sun. The Church, no longer in control, crumples into the sea.
hank1961 5 minutes ago


Thats from this link (there are several now, as you know I am sure)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMnKDZ6 ... re=related

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The first vid I posted has these stats as of today:

107,610

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Ratings: 1689
Comments: 697
Favorites: 1,068
Likes: 1637
Dislikes: 52

Audiences
This video is most popular with:
Gender Age
Male 45-54
Male 35-44
Male 55-64

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When I posted it, it was but 3000ish. It seems to be just about to peak, but maybe because there are at least 4 reposts of the orig video, the count will taper.
Also, as I've been checking, today is the first day vierership shifted to the US. All last week it was heavily viewed most in Russia and Asia for some reason:

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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:31 pm

The Esoteric Symbolism of the Viral Video “I, Pet Goat II”
By VC | July 9th, 2012 | Category: Movies and TV | 96 comments

“I, Pet Goat II” is a computer animated video that is loaded with silent messages and esoteric symbolism. While the movie has no dialogue, each symbol tells a piece of a story that covers the fields of history, politics, occult conspiracies and spirituality. We’ll look at the esoteric meaning behind the viral sensation “I, Pet Goat II”.

Produced by the Canadian production crew Heliofant, I, Pet Goat II is a short animated movie that quickly went viral across the internet. Praised for its visual feats and its interesting imagery, the video however left many puzzled about the meaning of its symbolism. Politics, conspiracies and false flag operations are mixed with esoteric spirituality and occult symbolism in one big mesmerizing mind bender. Here’s the video.


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After watching the video, many might say something like “What the hell did I just watch?”. The story is somewhat non-linear and there are many cryptic and enigmatic elements in the movie. I won’t claim to fully decode every single symbol-filled frame of the video, but many of the messages are easily understandable due to rather heavy-handed symbolism.

In general, the movie appears to be about the political and social climate of the past decade – complete with puppet Presidents, false flag terror and mind-controlling sorcerers. Then, through the following of a Christ figure, we leave all the sadness behind to enter a new, sunny era. In short, the story is about the triumph of spiritual enlightenment against the forces of darkness. Let’s look at the movie and at some of its many details.

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The video begins with an interesting scene: A goat inside a box in what appears to be some sort of detention (FEMA) camp. The goat has a bar-code on its head with the numbers 6 6 6 underneath it. If I, Pet Goat is about liberation from the forces of darkness, this first scene seems to depict the exact opposite. Does this goat represent those who have been “boxed in”, bar-coded and brainwashed by the corrupt system? The usage of the pronoun “I” in the title implies that the goat might be, in fact, the viewer himself.

The Puppet Show that is Politics
In the first part of the video, a hidden puppet master controls George “Dubya” Bush inside a classroom. When the planes struck the Word Trade Center in September 2001, Bush was inside a classroom reading the book My Pet Goat to children. The Masonic checkerboard floor of the classroom might signify that this whole charade had a ritualistic component to it.
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Above Bush is an interesting graphic depicting the evolution of mankind from fish, to monkey, to man holding a weapon. What is the final stage of evolution? The illuminated man, represented by a sunburst around its head.

Bush wears a dunce cap, this conical hat that was given to “slower” students to humiliate them. When Bush is done making a fool out of himself, he turns into Obama, a charming and distinguished man wearing a graduation cap. He starts off nice and lovable, but he ultimately begins to laugh at the audience. While he appeared to be the perfect response to the idiocy of Bush’s era, the fact remains: He is simply another puppet controlled by the same puppet master.

While most of the audience is totally oblivious to what is happening, one girl is not buying it.
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While the masses appear to be deaf, dumb and blind (and restrained by barb wire), this little girl realizes that “this apple is not hers and drops it”. Obama is concerned by the awakening of this girl.

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We are then taken to the cold and snowy outside world around the school. On a wall, there’s a graffiti with an important message behind it.

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The Biblical verse that is referred to by the graffiti appears to foretell the journey viewers are about to embark on.

The Lord is my shepherd, I lack nothing. He makes me lie down in green pastures, he leads me beside quiet waters, he refreshes my soul. He guides me along the right paths for his name’s sake. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me. You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows. Surely your goodness and love will follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.

- Psalm 23, NIV

A World in Decay
The outside world is dark, cold and literally in decay. It is sad, corrupt and everything is shaking and crumbling down.

At one point, two towers – reminiscent of the WTC – fall down. We then learn that it was an inside job.

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Bin Laden is wearing a CIA badge, hinting to the fact that he was a tool used by the American government to advance its agenda. The moon crescent, a symbol associated with Islam, is reversed, which is may be a way of saying that all this Al-Qaeda stuff is a perversion and an exploitation of Islam.

While oil leaks from everywhere, a six pointed star appears under the Statue of Liberty, renamed by the makers of the movie “Lady of Helotry” (“helotry” means serfdom or slavery).

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s the six-pointed star (also know as the Star of David) appearing under the Lady of Helotry a way of saying that the US is highly influenced by Israel?
While the world is crumbling down, many ancient institutions disappear or get destroyed.

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There is MUCH more, check it out!

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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:12 pm

I really don't understand the symbolism of using the Star of David as the base of the Lady of Helotry. I think another choice could have better represented imperialism rather than Jewish people – because that's the way I read it now. I don't get the point anyway.

Of course Liberty stands on a star now, but it's 11-sided.
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There are a few other executional problems that bother me about this cartoon - the beautiful aryan coming into realization, white saviorness, and religiosity and superstition in general. Maybe I'm missing the point, but beyond the concepts, the aesthetic is bothering me in a way I can't quite put my finger on. This is seen most readily during Bush's monologue, which comes across with a really amateurish "musical theater class" cadence for dramatic purposes. I was in school with animators (my roommate was one) and I'd watch them struggle with visual dramatics exactly like the motion blur on the goat's head in the beginning, or the kinda corny capoeira routine, which add nothing to the storytelling - and in fact probably take something away.
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Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:52 pm

Luther Blissett wrote:There are a few other executional problems that bother me about this cartoon - the beautiful aryan coming into realization, white saviorness, and religiosity and superstition in general. Maybe I'm missing the point, but beyond the concepts, the aesthetic is bothering me in a way I can't quite put my finger on. This is seen most readily during Bush's monologue, which comes across with a really amateurish "musical theater class" cadence for dramatic purposes. I was in school with animators (my roommate was one) and I'd watch them struggle with visual dramatics exactly like the motion blur on the goat's head in the beginning, or the kinda corny capoeira routine, which add nothing to the storytelling - and in fact probably take something away.


I think the interview with the creator on the previous page answers your 'problems', but speaking for myself, if/when I create something and want to employ a stand-in for maybe my 'higher self', I'd use Christ. We all use what we are familiar with to attempt to express a concept or idea. Are you aware of the concept of the Cosmic Christ? I use other dieties or beings as well, but the creator of the vid does that too. In fact the three major religions are given promanence and integration, along with the pagan tradition. What 'capoeira routine'? You mean the dance of Kali? The additional dancing of the various masks? You say it adds nothing, yet it adds substantially and negates your objection to using the Christ (who is not used exclusively)...

But here I am, for my part, podering if it is supposed to be the 'anti-Christ' (creators stated intent aside). I am trying to see what others' reations are as well to this. Maybe it is just as the maker says. Maybe it reads otherwise or could be. Maybe there is more. There are lots of variables and propositions being juggled and arranged and it can get tricky.
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Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:41 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:
Luther Blissett wrote:There are a few other executional problems that bother me about this cartoon - the beautiful aryan coming into realization, white saviorness, and religiosity and superstition in general. Maybe I'm missing the point, but beyond the concepts, the aesthetic is bothering me in a way I can't quite put my finger on. This is seen most readily during Bush's monologue, which comes across with a really amateurish "musical theater class" cadence for dramatic purposes. I was in school with animators (my roommate was one) and I'd watch them struggle with visual dramatics exactly like the motion blur on the goat's head in the beginning, or the kinda corny capoeira routine, which add nothing to the storytelling - and in fact probably take something away.


I think the interview with the creator on the previous page answers your 'problems', but speaking for myself, if/when I create something and want to employ a stand-in for maybe my 'higher self', I'd use Christ. Are you aware of the concept of the Cosmic Christ? I use other dieties or beings as well, but the creator of the vid does that too. What 'capoeira routine'? You mean the dance of Kali? The additional dancing of the various masks? You say it adds nothing, yet it adds substantially and negates your objection to using the Christ (who is not used exclusively)... but here I am, for my part, podering if it is supposed to be the 'anti-Christ' (creators stated intent aside).


Maybe I'm fighting some preconceived distastes, but I don't think that he does. If it is supposed to be the antichrist, the use of the symbol of christ is too fraught with embedded cultural semantics. Why not use some of the older, non-aryan gods from which the christ story was adapted, like Krishna or Horus? The marionettist is shown to be satan, though, so I suppose it's set up from the start to have that old desert-fable quality.

Kali's dance is at least borderline traditional, but the other masks are performing Brazilian dance aerobics (I guess because he had a friend who could and who agreed to model for him?) and I don't know why. He does say in the interview that the christ is the central figure of the story, and the first image that he conceived, so I'm interpreting that his use of the christ is intentional. It would have been very cool if he had used some kind of other symbol to stand in as his higher self.
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Postby JackRiddler » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:46 pm

It's a beautiful work and I've watched it a few times since yesterday, because it's sad-making as well as symbolically rich and interesting to decipher. That doesn't mean I accept all of the various messages (most of these are obvious and laid on thick). Because I don't! Or the Big Message - it's more debatable what that is, but as someone said, it's a remake of Zeitgeist by Pixar. My reaction to Zeitgeist was so-so or lower. This is way better, more nous-engagement. I like to see these subjects treated. This being RI...

The saddest part was with the girl, the tanks, and Death. The geographic sequence of children in different regions was probably the most interesting, albeit to stereotype (Middle East war, Western brainwash, Chinese tyranny, African abuse and war, Latin American labor exploitation). "Jesus" is not representing a god-savior. He embodies a meditative consciousness in everyone, asleep but absorbing and comprehending a death system, its false idols and abusive authorities - in fact, he's dreaming the whole thing into existence, then awakening to overthrow it. Also, I thought the old lady in the Penis Tower Church (didn't anyone notice that? The surrounding landscape makes up a lying body) with a cross on top was supposed to be the Whore of Babylon, or the Vatican. (The Christofundamentalist commenters on VC are convinced the guy on the Anubis Surfboard is actually the anti-Christ because, like, he's overthrowing Christianity and bringing peace! Evil!)
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:13 pm

Yes (Jack) that is my interpretation as well, as is other who have offered reaction). It is the coming of the Cosmic Christ! ("Thats YOU!" -in creators character pages). There may/may not be something else going on though. Maybe... it depends on how one interprets details. For now I go with the stated. I should also say, your level of interpretation is dependant on the extent of your knowledge of faiths, particulars, etc. I say again, there is LOTS going on.


And the woman/whore of Babylon in the phallus (yes brought it up earlier)...yes, that is my thinking as well. And the stain removed/made clean.
What is funny about that is I have watched a few 'breakdowns' of the vid and everyone is very bashful and do not address it, or 'I apologize for this part, its rather risque...moving on'...hehe. Puritan sensabilities come out, and thats a flag for me. They show their limits of understanding.

I will say I have watched it maybe 10-20 times, and each time you see more details. Did anyone notice the pills and such by the media controlled eggboy for example? It underlines the meaning, but there are many, many things within just like that, and some cryptic, and some depend on interpretation.
You almost have to watch it with your curser on the pause button, advancing frame by frame at times, looking at every detail and circumstance. Facinating!

I wrote prematurely of it peaking though-

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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:23 am

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This morning: Total views: 145,612 for that initial video link on page 1...

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So I went to look at some comment from the latest review/analysis article I posted, and just wanted to quote some of them. There are many more. There are posters the wold over and from different faiths posting as well. Fun times. Some are funny, some are insighful, some are and alternative interpretation, and some are wacky. I leave readers to determine which is which:



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The Esoteric Symbolism of the Viral Video “I, Pet Goat II”
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Mercer says:
July 9, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I’m more inclined to take this opinion as well. The second coming of the Christ/Mahdi is always preceded by the Antichrist/Dajjal. The woman in black with the dead child reminds me of the mother of Christ. She is weeping over the son we killed. Or, it could mean the unfortunate women who has given birth to a dead baby because it has no soul. The protestor in 3:42 strikes me the most. No matter what, we are playing to the tune of the puppeteer. The Christ we are left with could be a manufactured entity. If we are to question our surroundings, then we must also question what we have learned and its veracity. Why does the butterfly get incinerated when it touches this Christ? The New Age religion isn’t just a mashing of religious ideas together. Its the integration of these ideas into a greater common denominator skillfully wickered from the foundation of Satanic thought.
Alex says:
July 9, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Instit. ( 7,17,9)

Exactly. I think that in this video the butterfly get incinerated because in greek language butterfly is said “psike”. And in greek psike means also “soul”. Who touch the Antichrist (who adheres to the New Age) loses its soul.


Ali Imran says:
July 10, 2012 at 3:14 am
hey everybody..And Assalam o alaikum ( Peace upon you).i am a muslim boy and i regularly read the articles on the V.C..i am not one of those people who dont know about their religion or world and just wasting their lives…i know about Islam and i foind it very close to christinity…all those concepts u people talk about here , we have them in our religion too..like DAJJAL (anti-christ) and we believe that he will be the biggest threat to the world or FITNA..we also believe that Hazrat Essa (Jesus) will return to fight against Dajjal and will eventually kill him or beat this illuminati shit..only difference that i found bw us is that we believe Hazrat ESSA was Prophet of ALLAH( who is the GOD the most powerfull and most merci full) and not the Son of God or God himself…and bible was supposed to be the book carryng the message of Allah to the local people like Quran does…muslims and christians were never supposed to be fighting. even in Islam a man can marry a christan women because they have more or less same believes…
i hope i can convey what i was trying to say…and there is also a prophecy that in the end times, we all will fight against Anti Christ together…


Jared K says:
July 10, 2012 at 8:54 pm
I thought the fish might have an astrological significance. From what I’ve read, the New Age movement teaches that Jesus was the “avatar” of the “Piscean age”, which constellation is a fish. The ages move backwards through the constellations, and thus the next age is the “Age of Aquarius”, which constellation is associated with water. (This could explain the water everywhere throughout the film.)

According to Astrology, an Age lasts around 2000 years. The Age of Aquarius is coming soon. This “Messiah” figure in the video probably represents the Avatar of Aquarius.

From CANA, I have this about the constellation of Aquarius:
“As in most occult philosophies, death is never final but is necessary to sow the seeds for new life. The sign before Pisces, the eleventh sign, is Aquarius, representing the self’s recognition of its part in collective humanity, the need for service to mankind, egalitarianism, and a desire for a utopian good. The Age of Pisces, with its emphasis on spirituality and compassion, and being a water sign, has been viewed as a time of cleansing for humanity, a spiritual preparation for the Age of Aquarius when the level of the collective unconscious will rise as each person raises their own consciousness, and when man turns from outer wisdom to his own inner wisdom for guidance.”
(http://www.christiananswersforthenewage ... sean2.html)


Mark Gustafson says:
July 10, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Well, I have corresponded with the publisher and he disavows knowledge of future events. He did suggest that the sowers of inequity would soon be driven mad and begin conflicting – whether such conflict involves us is unknown.

If you hold the title page upside down and place the image in front of a mirror, the title appears to present an internet address or email address. I tried both with no obvious result. Note that VC failed to mention that in the final seconds, fireballs emit from the sun, destroying the Egyptian pyramids and presumably anything else in the way.

Only one thing is currently clear – everything you see and read is being manipulated and the only certain thing is the fact of the manipulation. Go with the flow and learn to recognize the “tells” – they are everywhere.


bchan says:
July 10, 2012 at 2:33 pm
cant stop myself.
look at the name of the video for gods sakes. i, pet goat!! it says “now look here you mindless barcoded, prisoned, multipled, drugged goat. we will show you what shall come to pass, and you have nothing to do to stop it.”

sugar magnolia says:
July 10, 2012 at 10:41 am
I was wondering why some of the deities had raccoon tails on them….found out the music is credited to “tanuki”. “Tanuki” is the name of the Japanese raccoon dog.


Oscar says:
July 10, 2012 at 11:24 am
I took a completely different outcome after watching this video. I went into Heliophants Facebook page and it was opened on march 6 2012. (3/6/12). This means only one thing to me.
This whole video is an annoucement that the anti-christ has now taken possesion of the Human who will rule the world. The anti-christ has been born!

theseeker says:
July 10, 2012 at 6:59 am
Yes, this short is indeed elaborate, and very artistically powerful, with mesmerizing propaganda-power. Of course the Christ-figure is the Antichrist. He travels on an Egyptian boat with a one-eyed Anubis-head, also he is a “cosmic Christ”, and I am reminded about the end of Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey. He is the master controller, he controls even Drako. The fact that he has upwards the symbol on his forehead simply refers to the concept of duality. Duality is very important for mystery schools, as the readers of this site know; and even the Bible refers to the fact that the fallen angel pretends to be an angel of light (deceiving people by pretending to be good and loving and a quality that is a friend of humanity “who gave us fire”, or the “chance of enlightenment without obeying God”). It is Satan (Seth-Ankh) and Lucifer – they are the same, and only pretending being not the same. That is part of the big deception. The Antichrist-quality is so deceptive, that by establishing new laws of “love” and giving a new “religion” to the entire world, it will deceive even many of those who have a clear head and heart. The dark forces only disappear (seemingly), because the controller, the Christ figure (who is kinda “enlightened from the inside”) simply does not need them anymore, once he has achieved his aim of controlling (almost) everything and everyone. Most probably there will be a short world peace (forced and controlled by the Antichrist-ruler) during the REAL second coming of Christ… the “sunny era” depicted by the end of the video. So, this short says: either one become a pet goat with 666, or one become “enlightened spiritually” by one’s own means. No thanks. I choose the 3rd option: believing that Christ is really given all power on earth and heavens, and if it is enlightenment, I want it only THROUGH HIM.


Imho this short is trying to deceive the truth seekers too, who know already that the world/politics is a puppet show, who know that there is a huge conspiracy against humanity… also it is pretending that you can only choose being a controlled pet goat or following the Antichrist. So in conclusion I find this film a multiple mindbender, but I still have my conclusion about this animation being a cognitive dissonance that starts in pixels and ends in the reality, in the “near future”. Other than that I loved the artistic means they used and wish this wouldn’t have the dark meaning and conclusion/deception that it has imho.


turnkey says:
July 9, 2012 at 4:52 pm
can’t believe something like this has seen the light of day… hope the medium helps to bypass cynicism or blockages.

and if you ever get the chance to see the Dervishes, do so, unforgettable and transformative.

“Behold, I am sending you as lambs among wolves; be therefore crafty as snakes and innocent as doves.” –Matthew 10:16


Fleurdamour says:
And re: the siz point base of the Statue of Liberty, the base she stands on is in actuality an 11 point star, symbolizing the Qliphoth gate in the Kabbalah and making her a Babalon idol. Creepy stuff. Drako’s pyramid beard also reminds me of Gaga’s nasty eyeball pharoah beard in one of her videos.


Random says:
July 9, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Stealth bombers in the shape of the freemason symbol too.


Hank Missenheim_Jr says:
July 10, 2012 at 9:26 am
What I did omit was Newton’s Third Law, F=-F at 0:54. For every action there’s opposite action of equal force (not that it matters on this page of science challenged individuals).


openyoureyesnclose yourmouth says:
July 10, 2012 at 5:49 pm
sorry.. cut off..

Jesus says in the Gnostic Scripture, Gospels of Thomas, as he does in the king James version the very thing the video makes clear “THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS WITHIN YOU”.

American King James Version
Luke: “Neither shall they say, See here! or, see there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”

Dead Sea Scrolls, Gospel of Thomas
“(3) Jesus said: If those who lead you say unto you: Behold, the Kingdom is in heaven, then the birds of the heaven will be before you. If they say unto you: It is in the sea, then the fish will be before you. But the Kingdom is within you, and it is outside of you. When you know yourselves, then shall you be known, and you shall know that you are the sons of the living Father. But if ye do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty, and you are poverty.”

Now.. who got what from who? … and the latter is way more poignant and speaks to the souls of man. Its much more liberating than the newer KJ version… you cant control ppl with words this powerful, you can only free them from the yoke of this world and prepare them fro the next. We know how the Greeks (Constantine n his Nice council)wanted to control the ppl, so the would have said a text making men free is heresy.

He comes as the fiery destroyer of evil. If you do not hate evil, then you cannot follow Jesus.. that too is in the gnostic text & KJ version

If it wasn’t for the Gnostic text, I would still be a non believer in Jesus, the Savior. He is a Master, Teacher, Savior, Son of God

TruthRightInFront says:
July 9, 2012 at 8:18 pm
WOW. Im amazed, Without any dialogue they managed to convey such a powerful story simply through the use of animation and symbols.
But I did NOT like how Jesus was represented with masonic symbols of illumination crap. As a muslim I can tell u that we believe that humans are not God-like, and can never become God, that is a very Luciferian concept. To accept Islam literally means to “submit to” God, and there is no God-like quality “within” us.
I agree with u when u indicate how this so called Jesus is the Anti-christ. Muslims believe that before the “real Jesus” comes down to earth, the Anti-Christ (Dajjal is what we call him) will be the leader of all people and a false prophet. This Anti-christ will deceive people from all other religions into thinking he is the true deliverer by having supernatural powers and performing many miracles (fooling idiots) and people will have waited long for him to come deliver them and he will be very powerful politically and will lead the people like the Pied Piper of Hamelin to their doom.
Then the “real Jesus” will come down to earth and there will be a big battle which will defeat this Anti-christ.
So I believe that this Jesus figure depicted in this movie is the Anti-christ as he is represented with a pyramid and a third eye and is inspiring people to find God within themselves and the whole imagery at the end with him sailing off towards the sun is very gnostic indeed.

TheWiredWorld says:
July 9, 2012 at 10:16 pm
It’s sad but understandable from people how anything that’s not from a Western Baptist church or extremely current and Americanized is blasphemous and evil. It’s understandable because one of the Illuminati’s missions WAS to poison the image of all these ancient symbols. It seems like anything that’s not a cross is evil, even though these symbols are literally ancient and were once (and still are) very Holy. It was their mission to hi jack and poison those images…and they’ve succeeded.

openyoureyesnclose yourmouth says:
July 10, 2012 at 6:21 pm
I agree and this is in no offense to the Christian thought of Jesus.. I just prescribe to the older version, the Gnostic version. Mysticism is not evil.. Jesus was the only Perfect Man.. a true mystic in that he can minister a man to truly, literally, Move the mountain when you say move. We are the Sons & Daughters of the Living Father, we come from the place where the light began, from our Father , of our Father, but we know in wisdom we ca NEVER BE OUR FATHER!

Jesus says in the Gnostic Scripture, Gospels of Thomas, as he does in the king James version the very thing the video makes clear “THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS WITHIN YOU”.

American King James Version
Luke: “Neither shall they say, See here! or, see there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”

Dead Sea Scrolls, Gospel of Thomas
“(3) Jesus said: If those who lead you say unto you: Behold, the Kingdom is in heaven, then the birds of the heaven will be before you. If they say unto you: It is in the sea, then the fish will be before you. But the Kingdom is within you, and it is outside of you. When you know yourselves, then shall you be known, and you shall know that you are the sons of the living Father. But if ye do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty, and you are poverty.”

Now.. who got what from who? … and the latter is way more poignant and speaks to the souls of man. Its much more liberating than the newer KJ version… you cant control ppl with words this powerful, you can only free them from the yoke of this world and prepare them fro the next. We know how the Greeks (Constantine n his Nice council)wanted to control the ppl, so the would have said a text making men free is heresy.

He comes as the fiery destroyer of evil. If you do not hate evil, then you cannot follow Jesus.. that too is in the gnostic text & KJ version

Sarah Connor says:
July 10, 2012 at 2:22 am
I hadn’t even watched the clip when I made that comment…..now that I have, God help us!!!! That is the worst new age satanic propaganda I have sees in a long time!!! Esoteric or not!!! We are in the age of deceipt like never before……I am actually sick to my stomach about it tonight. Grieved……literally.


cassidy5280 says:
July 10, 2012 at 12:22 pm
I think the the apple stops before a backwards “7C” and splits in half representing a “W” (double you) and then the lotus flower blooms into a “T.” put it all together and you have Obama sweating over WTC7. anyone? Maybe?
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:41 am

Total views: 164,412
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_OawJA6 ... _embedded#

Incidentally, I recommend going to the creators website instead, as its better quality and you can see more.

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But there's a few comments on the link above that may be worth reading:

the lightning bolt on the wall...Luke 10:18 He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."
The egg.
Isaiah 59:5
They hatch the eggs of vipers and spin a spider's web. Whoever eats their eggs will die, and when one is broken, an adder is hatched.
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The title “I, Pet Goat II” alludes to Robert Graves’ classic “I, Claudius”, which chronicles the internal conflicts of Imperial Rome: the preservation of Constitutional liberty versus the expansion of the Empire. Sounds familiar..? shimineenawhow 13 hours ago

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No! It is about the imminent end of the secret, corrupt, leaders who have been controlling the western world behind the scenes (the elite bankers and other satanitic-worshipping illuminati). It is about how they had controlled us all by controlling the politicians, money, media, the military and through sexual exploitation. But their rule is coming to an end and we awaken and emerge out of the dark into the light. The Jesus figure is our collective consciousness.
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Wrong again! It is about the coming economic collapse, war, and GREAT DECEPTION! WTF! There is much debate if that is the anti-christ or a representation of christ consciousness. Well, I for one know there is a deceptive theme going on here because I know FOR A FACT that this video has been put out by the illluminati, NOT some random awakened artists. There is TOO much symbolism, revealing , and warning in this video here to be the random artists, sorry. Think about it.
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This exchange is what the debate is about.

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Also, thought I would post this, as it might settle the debate:

Consciousness - an animation of Spirit --www.advaita.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwyuQbIb0Xs


Uploaded by obistra on Aug 7, 2006

This is a very cool original animation by Louis Lefebvre which chronicles the evolution of Consciousness from its inanimate state into human form and then back through spiritual seeking to Oneness. Its inspiration is the spiritual teaching of Wayne Liquorman and Ramesh S. Balsekar.

Courtesy of http://www.advaita.org
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:48 pm

Wrong again! It is about the coming economic collapse, war, and GREAT DECEPTION! WTF! There is much debate if that is the anti-christ or a representation of christ consciousness. Well, I for one know there is a deceptive theme going on here because I know FOR A FACT that this video has been put out by the illluminati, NOT some random awakened artists. There is TOO much symbolism, revealing , and warning in this video here to be the random artists, sorry. Think about it.
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