I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc.)

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Postby 2012 Countdown » Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:49 pm

Thanks folks!

Alf, I am 'compelled'!
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:41 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:Obviously he's (a commenter) is attempting connection to the last two digits. Maybe a stretch...but its those little things that sometimes pan out in congruity.


No, "the stretch" is that this commenter doesn't know when World War II was declared, or when the US entered it, presumably among other things. I don't want to hear no "arguablies." (I've said myself WW2 "really" started in 36 because of the Spanish Civil War, etc.) Anyway, this level becomes an easter-egg hunt for fans, doesn't really interest me.
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:04 pm

Yes, i see what you're saying, and I readily admit to not being a know it all. I am putting some things up that i find to get just such a reaction, which is why your post is appreciated. I may play devil's advocate on occasion, lobbying, but its good to have a sounding board, even if disinterested, haha. There are lots of 'easter eggs' in this that do work out though.

Edit- This is probably saying the obvious, but some are interested as a fellow creator or story teller. To see what is shown, how its interpreted, and to see if the intention (if any) is comprehended by the public or others. Its somewhat instructive and perhaps helps in making something an effective effort. Take that little bit for example. There was /is an opportunity there. Maybe he did attempt something, maybe not. Given all that is there, maybe the creator missed an opportunity, maybe not.
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Adam 3 days ago
Regarding the Jesus symbolism, he is depicted as floating on a boat through the cave away from it's destruction because it relates to the Bible scriptures. The message is of overcoming the 3 lower chakras of the body which control sexual desires, hate and fear which are manifestations of the ego that control our experience.
"And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes."
Net = attention
Right side = heart + right brain (intuition, emotion, creativity, self-expression, will-power, wisdom)
Ship = another word for vessel = body
Water = purity and re-birth as we were birthed in the mothers womb of creation
Fish = Pisces the two polarised fishes one dominating the lower aspect the other trying to rise up and break free
They = the average person who is in ignorance
Taking the symbolism into account the scripture now reads:
"And it is said. Cast your attention to the right side of your brain (using your heart), and you will find truth (God). The ignorant look but they aren't able to seek truth as they have not risen to their highest order of being but remain in the darkness of their ego."
* One important thing to consider. It is true that we are able to seek God within as the Sufi depiction implies but remember this does not mean we are God, we are merely a mirror of the source in the same way a droplet of water is a mirror of the whole ocean but the droplet of water itself is not the ocean. It's vital to make this distinction because it's easy to mix this up with New-Age philosophy which implies that you are God; this merely heightens the ego and deviates from truth.
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Ace Producer 3 days ago
The most brilliant thing I've seen in ages. Just unbelievably cool and profound. Makes me proud to work in 3D, and makes me think of the awesome possibilities for the medium. Thank you so much for your bravery and hard work on this video.



Heliofant PLUS 2 days ago
I just want to thank everyone again for the wonderful comments. They have been very encouraging. It sure beats going on youtube. :)


Kim Mossige 1 day ago
@Jeff Silverman, I'll tell you about the message. As I see it, it is based on the Bible so I'm gonna stick to the Bible when reading the story here. Remember this is my reading of this video so don't get a rage on me
It first starts with a hand which controls the government. This is by the Bible satans world which he controls and brainwashes childrens with television and media etc. This also splits into many fake religions! Jesus on the other hand travels through humanity (as he did in the bible) with his eyes closed. Why was his eyes closed? Because his God's son and he was perfect when he was here on earth. This means he won't symbolicly open his eyes to what we humans do.
The old lady with the titties is a story in the bible. If you can see she had this period problem for many years. She belived in Jesus when he was here on earth and was then cleansed from her disease because she belived. Watch the video again and watch for the panties part, you can see she's being cleansed. It's Jesus light with the hands of Gods approval that does this because she fears and believes..
At the end as the Bible says, all false religion and government will fall. As you can see at the end of the video Jesus opens his eyes. Few people belived in him, but those who did were saved.


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I'd posted several of the creator's (Heliofant PLUS) comments on previous pages, fyi. Its definitely him replying.
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:57 pm

Doing more perusing...


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Christians are SO INEPT when it comes to decode the film's meaning. Just give up, go to your church, and wait until your fear is over or until it consumed you entirely, okay?

It's not meant for you lol because the only referrence you have is your God-forsaken unholy "babble."

Why can't you face the fact that your precious "babble" lies to you? Every single book's content can be altered as the Elites see fit, don't you see? EVERYTHING WRITTEN DOWN CAN'T BE CHANGED AND USED AGAINST YOU AND YOUR MIND, FOOLS!

As long as you trap your tiny mind within the issue of "is it Jesus Christ or the Anti-Christ", you'd never grasp the true meaning of this message.

Just look at how PARANOID you are.

Why can't you trust your own heart?

Why are you always looking for a saviour when he is right within you, WHEN HE IS YOU?

You in your very soul has the sleeping Christ Consciousness, the divine spark that quietly fuels the eternal cosmic fire of intelligence.


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...and yes, I paid GLP a visit...

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 917990/pg2

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Whats funny is that they see some of the things, but put a crazy take on it.
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby Hammer of Los » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:40 am

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It is true that we are able to seek God within as the Sufi depiction implies but remember this does not mean we are God, we are merely a mirror of the source in the same way a droplet of water is a mirror of the whole ocean but the droplet of water itself is not the ocean. It's vital to make this distinction because it's easy to mix this up with New-Age philosophy which implies that you are God; this merely heightens the ego and deviates from truth.


I see the illumined one.

I see the split hemispheres.

I see the house on fire.

I see the controllers have finally jumped the shark.

I see the fuel that puts out the fire.

I see the sacred lightning.

I see the hidden dragon.

I see the crouching tiger.

I know the shaman.

I know the dervish.

I know the dance of creation and destruction.

Anti Christ?

And what rough beast...


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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:29 pm

Secrets of I, Pet Goat II Revealed with Director Louis Lefebvre



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsPlPohPa1c
43:41 minutes
Published on Jul 19, 2012 by TheAlexJonesChannel
A story about the fire at the heart of suffering.
Bringing together dancers, musicians, visual artists and 3d animators, the film takes a critical look at the events of the past decade that have shaped our world.

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My notes below:
Talks about the process and time/expnse, others....talks about the misinterpretation of Christ by some... Starts talking about 9/11 at the 14:00 mark. Talks about OBL/CIA, controlled demo, economic demo, magic ritual.
18:00 'blatant' symbolism use
Talks about media and TV/snake at 23:00...and the face/man...his dollar filigree eyebrows (I didn't notice!) and his coin beard plate (noticed).
Talks about Egyptian symbolism at 25:00
28:16 about the sun and symbol archtype
27:00 talks about crumbling pyramids as collapse of hierarchal structures.
29:00 Obama character and girl figure...apple...and symbolism (markings on floor in paint are '0' and '1', confirmed)
32:00 what will he do next?
34:38, woman in penis tower discussed -this exchange between AJ is kinda interesting.
38:00 Religious dogma
38:30 girl/tanks discussed. Tienamen sq./China, Japan, asia -skeleton is death visiting and she dies. (yes, we read this right)
41:00 says go to vimeo site to see it better


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Youtube comments, the zealots continue:

Agreed, and saddened by it. If a man like Jones can supposedly study the symbols, ideas and practices of luciferianism for as many years as he has and then fawn over this man and video, then as far as I can see, his critics are right - this man is in on it. "By their fruits shall you know them."
TagManpants in reply to PlatoBuster 1 hour ago


This Director seems to know very little about the film and what is in it. Total Shill. Also the 1 and the Zero he mentions on the floor at Obama's feet where the apple splits is clearly a half circle and a 7 . Once the apple splits its two zero's and a seven it clearly represents the year 2007 when the apple splits. Not sure what it means as Obama took office in 2009 but it is clearly a seven and not a number one on the floor. Director should know this...
Yort696969 in reply to Fletcher Prouty (Show the comment) 6 hours ago
100%. This guy did what he knows 2 do: CG. The Plot was from The Masters (i.e. the ones who handed him the job). Therefore, this interview shows the Scam of The NWO Masters (who ordered the job and put him in a difficult situation - trying to explain what he has no clue about). LC: Some have said that this is LC for London Coliseum that then changes into London Olympics because of the cut Apple fills the space remaining for the O. So... Let's keep eyes on Olympics... Best Luck!

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Right On !...The Irony of it. The "Director" himself is now the puppet.......
Yort696969 in reply to Fletcher Prouty 5 hours ago


he's not struggling, it's called humility. If you knew anything about pure conscious awareness you might know a little bit about humility. This guy wasn't looking for fame, it was a project over 5 years. A 7 minute video/film that took 5 years. It wasn't a money making project, it was a personal project that turned into something more. AJ isn't coaching, he's making suggestions...he's looking for talking points, he's an interviewer for Christ's sake. Conspiracy flakes with milk this AM?
kansasisaband in reply to Yort696969 (Show the comment) 6 hours ago
Lay off the crack pipe Kansas. No conspiracy theorist here. The guy is all over the place trying to explain the meanings and symbols in his own film. That's not humility. Your right a 7 minute film that took 5 years to make and he still don't know what it means AND he doesn't know what number is on the floor at Obama's feet...did you check on that for us Keyboard Warrior? Don't be a fool......
Yort696969 in reply to kansasisaband 6 hours ago


This guy is a shill for the Illuminati. After listening to this guy talk about the film its clear that he wasn't the one who made it. He doesn't seem to know what half the stuff in the film means so how could he lay it out so well ? He is just a mouthpiece for the film so the real source is not exposed....
Yort696969 14 hours ago


It's obvious this man is not a Christian. He's talking about the christ consciousness, and makes it very clear he's a homosexual. That said, my question to you Alex is: have you renounced Jesus and embraced new age philosophy? You seem to be enraged at Christianity in general. Do you just not know the gospel? The problem Christians have with the new age is it leads faith away from Jesus and towards the self. We don't believe we are evolving into gods, we believe we are fallen and need salvation.
PlatoBuster 1 day ago


People - this Louis Lefebvre is a liar. He neither authored nor directed this work. Not one symbol, not one word, not the slightest jot nor tittle originated from his mind. He simply was hired (no expense spared) by the actual AuthorDirector to computer graphic render what somebody else designed from beginning to end and had him front for the actual author keeping him secret. ANY author knows EXACTLY for what reason he chose what symbol/image/word and in what order to communicate a specific idea
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:42 pm

CAUSE I AM OPEN MINDED; WATCH THE FILM AGAIN IT IS A TRULY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE, I swear to you it brought me to tears. you must admit .. we are all scared
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Lefebvre is one cunning psyop creature. He's not going to tell us what his illuminati video really means and who commissioned it. No, he's just going to feign ignorance and talk bollocks about redefining illuminati symbolism and expressing his own personal faith journey. The fact that Jones pulls out the red carpet for this disinfo agent and sits there in gormless admiration says a lot about his own real position in the truth movement.
timothypjohnson 1 day ago


wow. the comments here are sad and pathetic. You People are so disingenuous; youre like a flock of talentless pirhana waiting for the next hunk of flesh to fill your meager, parasitic stomachs. "I, Pet Sheep II" is a work of art beyond your abilities to 'critique'. in a language far beyond your 'text'. Instead of seeing a work of art - sanctified and untouchable, with the ability to awaken millions - you spatter the glass with filth that I truly see as misunderstanding. saDLY; point missed
criticalprogram 1 day ago


Draco? are you kidding me? it's a direct reference to the Annunaki and the serpent race and our reptilian brain !! and satanism==wake up Alex this man is a real creep don't let him fool you he makes me sick
supernoahman 1 day ago


You can tell some people that that upside down cross on the back of the Popes chair is the cross of Peter a million times and they'll still say it's a satanic symbol only. This guys work is open to interpretation I'd say, you see what you want to see. It is weird but what little I saw isn't offensive like a crucifix in dog urine or whatever.
Armahx 2 days ago


In the Bible, Genesis 32:30 Jacob sees God face to face and calls the name of the place Peniel.
The single eye, or third eye of the meditative state is the Pineal Gland(triangle marks the spot) of the Brain.Luke 17:21 The Kingdom of God is within you.
silkhead44 2 days ago


This man needs exorcist pronto,.. Maybe it is his cry fro help.
brscic 2 days ago
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:38 am

Okay. I'll try to make this my last post on this, but wanted to make this last comment as I'd like to say I think those suspicious (I called them 'zealots', perhaps dismissively) of the maker can be justified to some degree. That is, he doesn't speak like he knows all the symbolism back and forth like one might think a creator might. Some of his statements don't enlighten, but obfuscate. I will not say 'mislead'. My thinking is maybe not that he isn't the maker, but he wants to continue to leave it 'open' to interpretation. Maybe he doesn't want to reveal too much. But then, and here's my Columbo comment, 'just one last thing'...

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His comment at the 29:00 mark. About the floor markings. Checkerboard, duality, etc....and then he says the numbers are '1' and '0' (binary duality). Okay, fair enough, and I stated 'confirmed' as to say that is exactly what he said. Thing is, thats not what I see. Thats not what others see (as shown in a comment above). Let us look at a still:

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Those markings were a puzzle for me too. I am not sold that these are a 1 and 0. In fact I say they are NOT. I'm willing to buy the binary statement as it fits with the square black/white, but what I see are as others see. C7? LC? I don't know, but not 1 or 0. The white 'c' clearly is broken, that is, NOT an unbroken circle or zero. The '1' has an elongated serif. Its crooked/angled too.

A couple things to notice are present here. Under the apple is the symbols C7 upside down, or perhaps it is the symbol for angle "/_C" maybe it means to take a different angle to life, instead of A or B, take C. Somehow though, I don't think that is right. I'm not too sure what it means. Also, under President Obama's foot, is a coin. I assume this suggests that he has dominance over currency. It is not an American coin either so it would suggest he has dominance over foreign (or the worlds) currency.

Nevermind the last guess on the coin, 'control of currency' is a big miss, as we know it is 'Draco' who has that power.

C7 & the checker board is a opening gambit in chess known as the Sicilian Defence. Given that the apple rolls over C7 to the foot of Obama a black president. He is the pawn that is C7. He will be sacrificed in the coming game (Possibly the Olympics). There is so much to this.
LivinH3ll 1 week ago


The C7 by the apple represents the 7 churches of the Apocalypse. 1 Ephesus, the church that had forsaken its first love. 2. Smyrna, the church that would suffer persecution. 3. Pergamos, the church that needed to repent. 4. Thyatira, the church that had a false prophetess. 5. Philadelphia, the church that had fallen asleep. 6. Sardis, the church that had endured patiently. 7. Laodicea, the church with the lukewarm faith.
Jeorney 4 days ago


C7 represents the pawn sacrificed in the Black opening called the Sicilian made famous by Bobby Fischer. The sacrificed pawn allows a counter attack on the white Queenside flank. Combine this with the dancing clown jumping to death as the towers go and you can infer that it's a reference to the outing of israel's role in 9/11 as a Black Gambit - or dark ritual (ie:holocaust - burnt offering). Sacrificing the state of israel in order to gain the rest of the world seems to be the Bankers strategy.
abe2517 in reply to Jeorney 3 days ago


I think that the symbolism behind "LC" is connected to the divided apple, our two brain hemispheres, good and bad,ying and yang. It says that Lucifer and Christ consciousness create a lotus power, spiritual uprising, nirvana when those two are balanced.
cartmanowski2 2 days ago

I'm willing to entertain this interpretation too.

The chess move holds the most resonance with me...but now he says its a 1 and 0...

There were other incongruous statements, but again, maybe he had a purpose for doing so. I am giving him benefit of doubt though. One last time, the symbolism is so thick and layered, the composer had to be highly versed on esoteric and visual meanings. So there you go.
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Postby Hammer of Los » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:00 pm

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2012Countdown man, I am so glad you are here.

I shall surely get back to you later on this one.

When I have time!

Time!

etc.

This thing all things devours...

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Postby 2012 Countdown » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:37 pm

Well thanks HoL...

I'm thinking combination of these-

Quote:
C7 represents the pawn sacrificed in the Black opening called the Sicilian made famous by Bobby Fischer. The sacrificed pawn allows a counter attack on the white Queenside flank. Combine this with the dancing clown jumping to death as the towers go and you can infer that it's a reference to the outing of israel's role in 9/11 as a Black Gambit - or dark ritual (ie:holocaust - burnt offering). Sacrificing the state of israel in order to gain the rest of the world seems to be the Bankers strategy.
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I think that the symbolism behind "LC" is connected to the divided apple, our two brain hemispheres, good and bad,ying and yang. It says that Lucifer and Christ consciousness create a lotus power, spiritual uprising, nirvana when those two are balanced.
cartmanowski2 2 days ago

Not in their entirety of analysis, but those two...both C7 & LC. I could do that in my head.
At the 2:15 mark he provides a background clue. He talks about how some symbols are portrayed as 'evil', when they are not. (LC)
C7 works quite well too as the chess move.

1 & 0? I dunno. They work if it were actual 1 and 0 that is shown. I don't visually see that though. Any thoughts appreciated.
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Postby Alf » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:46 pm

Hi 2012, I enjoy this thread. About the chess symbology, i'm not really convinced. First off, the sicilian defence is not a gambit because the pawn isn't sacrificed. Also 'c5' would be a better symbol for this defence, since the pawn on c7 can either move to 1. e4 c6 (caro-kann defence) or 1. e4 c5 (sicilian defence), and that's assuming white played 1. e4 to begin with.
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Postby 2012 Countdown » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:02 pm

Alf, the man...

Thanks for the input. I just did a google for C7-

Tactics: That damn fork on c7
Knights are often used for forks, with their unique moving and jumping ability. A common situation is a knight jumping to c2 or c7, thereby threatening both the enemy rook and the king. Such "king forks" are particularly effective, because the opponent is forced by the rules of the game to alleviate the threat to the king. The opponent cannot choose to defend the other piece, and thus cannot use a zwischenzug to complicate the situation
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http://blog.chess.com/SuperCourgette/ta ... fork-on-c7

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THE QUEEN'S GAMBIT
WHITE SAYS:
I'm going to attack in the centre and on the Queen
side. I'm trying to get rid of your centre pawn and
open the c-file for my major pieces. If you're not
careful I might switch to the King-side as well.
BLACK SAYS:
I'm going to hold onto the centre with my pawns and
equalise by playing either c5 or e5 at the right time. If
you attack me on the Queen side I'll attack you on the
King side.
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http://www.chesskids.com/grownups/qgambit06.pdf
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I defer to you as chess authority, and anyone else. Again, I dunno!
If its not a 1 or 0, Stumped. LC holds promise...
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Postby Nordic » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:10 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:



Damn that's pretty good. Everybody should see that.

Explains the burned cars all around the WTC. That has ALWAYS bothered me in a big heavy way.

Sorry, it's a little O.T. but this is a keeper.
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:39 pm

Many Europeans (and perhaps Quebecois) write "1" in a way that looks like "7" to Americans. This is why they write "7" with a short horizontal line through the stem, to distinguish it clearly from the 1.

I think you guys are trying to parse too much. It is an independent artwork playing on present times, but not a message from "them" and not a message from the "secret good spirit." The meanings are very clear, as one might expect with an animation, much of the detail symbolism is decorative reinforcement.
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Re: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant (anim. 9/11, Bush/Obama, etc

Postby 2012 Countdown » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:15 pm

Ah, yes, this is possible! Thanks for the input. Could possibly be this is exactly the case. What about the '0' (claimed) but looks like a C?

I don't think we are trying to parse too much, just trying to 'get to the bottom' of things the creator intentionally put in and their meaning is all.
But yes, some ARE thinking it is a message from 'them', lol. (thats 'whistling past the graveyard', btw)
I speak for myself when I say I do not think it is any message from a 'good spirit' either -or any 'spirit' for that matter.
Just one mans/creator/storyteller's attempt at his craft. Seeing what is there and how it plays out.

See, my only other explanation before you posted was one that would not be kind to the makers' skills/craftsmanship. I guess in a way, that is my comment.
Lets say he didn't align the '1' path with the 'O' (btw, the cross out doesn't explain the visual C that is really an 0?!). No, he just said to himself, well everything else is perfect, but I just leave that '1' crooked. Its an intentional addition. Its there intentionally for us to interpret (if we so choose).

Just us types who for one reason or another like to pick things like this apart to see how it works and its reaction on others.

EDIT- I also work similarly, so this can be potentially instructive. There's also a relevant personal story in this for me to potentially tell, but that only goes to my personal curiosity in seeing reactions.
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