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Postby compared2what? » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:17 pm

solace wrote:"The two-hour movie, "Innocence of Muslims," cost $5 million to make and was financed with the help of more than 100 Jewish donors, said Bacile, who wrote and directed it."

Yep, yep.


I also doubt it cost that much. It's exactly the kind of thing wire services get wrong. And it's a lot more than should have been necessary.

What would it even signify if somebody had wasted a lot more than they needed to on it, as a matter of fact? That Jews are rich? I mean, I thought that was because they were tight-fisted and shrewd.

I'm having trouble following the logic here, I guess.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:20 pm

And, it turns out, federal court documents suggest that Nakoula has been associated with the numerous aliases, including: Thomas J. Tanas, PJ Tobacco, Ahmad Hamdy, Kritbag Difrat, Amal Nada, Erwin Salameh, Daniel K. Caresman, Robert Bacily, and Nicola Bacily.

In 2009, Nakoula faced federal bank fraud charges in California. In 2010, he was ordered to pay more than $790,000 in restitution, and sentenced to 21 months in federal prison. He was also ordered not to use computers, cell phones, or the Internet for five years unless he got an ok from a probation officer.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:21 pm

compared2what? wrote:But you know what I mean.


I do, Rove studied Nixon and I still say Nixon was one of our best Presidents, if we're talking talent for the art. I realize it really reads like I'm implying Ashley is pulling puppet strings in Africa -- no. I was just thinking points of contact for this US based movie stunt.

I like Ashley a lot -- I like Brandon Darby and Ken Mehlman, too. I would enjoy talking to Pat Buchanan over some beers. Captain Sympathy for Satan, that's me. I'm interested in anyone who's found a system of action based on their beliefs. I find the more I study history, politics and mass movements, the more I see a 360° minefield.

Fascinated by: the fact most of the cast have stepped forward and were compartmentalized out of the picture the whole time; how few personnel were needed for this x how little they would have to be told; how quickly the roll-out was from Youtube upload to reaction 1000's of miles away; the frank and public participation of Steve Klein; and the disconnect between mass media day-of reporting and the picture that emerges from pieces like Ackerman's Wired article. The next 48 hours of news cycle will unwind some serious LULZ.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:25 pm

(CNN) -- A pro-al Qaeda group responsible for a previous armed assault on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi is the chief suspect in Tuesday's attack that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya, sources tracking militant Islamist groups in eastern Libya say.

They also note that the attack immediately followed a call from al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri for revenge for the death in June of a senior Libyan member of the terror group Abu Yahya al-Libi.

The group suspected to be behind the assault -- the Imprisoned Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades -- first surfaced in May, when it claimed responsibility for an attack on the International Red Cross office in Benghazi. The following month the group claimed responsibility for detonating an explosive device outside the U.S. Consulate, and later released a video of that attack
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Postby compared2what? » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:37 pm

solace wrote:
freemason9 wrote:mossad, duh



Larry, Curley and MOssad.


No matter what your politics are, it's not in your own best interests to remain blind to the existence and probable involvement of other interested parties. Who get more numerous after the fact, from a U.S. perspective.

And that's not any less true for neo-Nazis and evangelicals than it is for anyone. Because as long as anyone stops thinking and asking questions whenever someone points at Israel, EVERYONE who has any power will occasionally choose to avail themselves of the hornswoggling opportunities it provides. And the more anti-semitic they are, the more it provides.
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Israeli operatives probably had something to do with the thing in Egypt. Mossad or extra-Mossad. The rest of it probably isn't their work and might not be anybody's. I guess the fall-out from it could make that clearer, though. Whatever it turns out to be.
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Re: Ambassador killed -- something tells me there is more to

Postby solace » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:38 pm

compared2what? wrote:
solace wrote:"The two-hour movie, "Innocence of Muslims," cost $5 million to make and was financed with the help of more than 100 Jewish donors, said Bacile, who wrote and directed it."

Yep, yep.


I also doubt it cost that much. It's exactly the kind of thing wire services get wrong. And it's a lot more than should have been necessary.

What would it even signify if somebody had wasted a lot more than they needed to on it, as a matter of fact? That Jews are rich? I mean, I thought that was because they were tight-fisted and shrewd.

I'm having trouble following the logic here, I guess.


Obviously someone wanted to brand Jews as being the bad guys. Who is a wide open guess. There are so many possible suspects, aren't there?
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Postby solace » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:40 pm

compared2what? wrote:
solace wrote:
freemason9 wrote:mossad, duh



Larry, Curley and MOssad.


No matter what your politics are, it's not in your own best interests to remain blind to the existence and probable involvement of other interested parties. Who get more numerous after the fact, from a U.S. perspective.

And that's not any less true for neo-Nazis and evangelicals than it is for anyone. Because as long as anyone stops thinking and asking questions whenever someone points at Israel, EVERYONE who has any power will occasionally choose to avail themselves of the hornswoggling opportunities it provides. And the more anti-semitic they are, the more it provides.
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Israeli operatives probably had something to do with the thing in Egypt. Mossad or extra-Mossad. The rest of it probably isn't their work and might not be anybody's. I guess the fall-out from it could make that clearer, though. Whatever it turns out to be.


I guess I just don't buy the super Jew Mossad myth as easily as some do.
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Postby barracuda » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:57 pm

Apparently the US state department official also killed in Benghazi happened to be a spy for the Goonfleet Intelligence Agency.
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Postby compared2what? » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:07 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:Pat Buchanan


You'd think he'd be fun, wouldn't you? But he's not. Ego. Very disappointing.

Captain Sympathy for Satan, that's me.


That's true of me, too.
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Postby compared2what? » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:13 pm

Deleted out of a real if futile good-faith wish.
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Postby compared2what? » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:16 pm

solace wrote:There are so many possible suspects, aren't there?


You saw the thing I said about blindness and who it wasn't good for, right?

That.
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Postby solace » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:22 pm

compared2what? wrote:Deleted out of a real if futile good-faith wish.


Saw it and want you to know that I certainly never meant to put ANYONE in their place; least of all you. I am wrong all the time and I really could be wrong about them too. Guess I'm from Missouri.
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Postby compared2what? » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:51 pm

solace wrote:
compared2what? wrote:
solace wrote:"The two-hour movie, "Innocence of Muslims," cost $5 million to make and was financed with the help of more than 100 Jewish donors, said Bacile, who wrote and directed it."

Yep, yep.


I also doubt it cost that much. It's exactly the kind of thing wire services get wrong. And it's a lot more than should have been necessary.

What would it even signify if somebody had wasted a lot more than they needed to on it, as a matter of fact? That Jews are rich? I mean, I thought that was because they were tight-fisted and shrewd.

I'm having trouble following the logic here, I guess.


Obviously someone wanted to brand Jews as being the bad guys. Who is a wide open guess. There are so many possible suspects, aren't there?


Now that you mention it, there actually is a reason why it might genuinely have cost that much that sure as hell doesn't exclude Israel/Mossad. Or anyone. Sorry. Anyway. It's mostly just a way of explaining the cost as non-mistaken, to wit:

Production expenses would be an excellent way to launder two million dollars or so, if you had some reason to do that and were making a movie anyway. And advantageous for income-tax purposes if you did it right, too.

Just a thought.
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Postby compared2what? » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:02 am

solace wrote:
compared2what? wrote:Deleted out of a real if futile good-faith wish.


Saw it and want you to know that I certainly never meant to put ANYONE in their place; least of all you. I am wrong all the time and I really could be wrong about them too. Guess I'm from Missouri.


Are you? You lucky.

Thank you. Whatever you think is really A-OK with me. I feel an obligation to point out what I'm sure is a real danger. That's all, though.The rest isn't really my business.

Just saying, though. I'm happy to take you at your word.
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:06 am

Anyone remember the "were gonna blow up Saudi/US/Israeli diplomats/consulates with help from Mexican drug runner" plot blamed on Iran?
Who makes up this stuff?
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