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Zombies To Be Part Of Huge Counter Terror Program

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:40 pm

I thought maybe the Onion was doing some partnership with NBC, but apparently not. Some may ask "does the government know something we don't know", but
I see it more metaphorical: the powers that be consider us all zombies.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09 ... ogram?lite

Also, related: "government warns of zombie outbreak as ruse"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48932910/ns ... 1118043084

University of Oxford does hypothetical study on a global zombie plague
http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/techn ... ert-120495

Zombies under attack in counterterrorism training program
By NBC News staff

Zombies may have a tougher time taking over the world after a counterterrorism training program scheduled next month in San Diego.
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MilitaryTimes.com on Sunday reported that California-based security firm HALO Corp. will incorporate training to fight the undead during its Oct. 29 to Nov. 2 Counter-Terrorism Summit expected to draw 1,000 military personnel, law enforcement officials, medical experts and government workers to the 44-acre Paradise Point resort island in San Diego’s Mission Bay.
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The company, founded by former special operations, national security and intelligence personnel, says its annual summit this year will include a realistic tactical training environment using “Hollywood magic” in live action demonstrations, realistic tactical training scenarios and classroom education.


Immersive Hollywood sets will include a Middle Eastern village and a pirates’ haven, MilitaryTimes.com reported.

The more than 30 courses range from border and maritime security to cyber terrorism and modern warfare, HALO says in its summit promotional material.

Related:

No, the zombie apocalypse isn't coming, assures the CDC
No, really: Government warns of 'zombie apocalypse'
Oxford University on zombie alert
After gory incidents, online 'zombie' talk grows

But a future crisis could arise from an outbreak of viruses that destroy brain cells and render people violently catatonic, like zombies, MilitaryTimes.com said.

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“The Zombie Apocalypse is very whimsical,” Brad Barker, HALO president, told MilitaryTimes.com, referring to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention campaign released last year.

Zombies who roam the island will harass the troops, first-aid teams and medical responders participating, Barker told MilitaryTimes.com.


Ha, love the video, on Halloween they have former CIA and NSA director head General Michael Hayden.
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Postby nashvillebrook » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:06 pm

Love that the setting for the zombie battle royale is a "middle eastern village."

The zombie tableau in movies has always bothered me b/c it allows for the dehumanization and "rational" genocide of those close to us who have had the misfortune of becoming problematic. This in no way interferes with me consuming zombie film...it's just something that niggles. Like how 50s alien invasion movies can be seen in a Cold War frame (alien threat = commie threat + military saves us), what the frame to understand zombie flicks? GWOT + vigilantism?
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Re: Zombies To Be Part Of Huge Counter Terror Program

Postby Nordic » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:26 am

I think it's just their little inside joke regarding this:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35449

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I hate the zombie movies and shows. It's disgusting to watch people use shotguns and chainsaws to blow and whack apart human corpses. Why this passes as entertainment is beyond me.

So much for respecting the dead.

We're already dead. We're just a bunch of eaters, right? Consumers. Give us brains .....

When the hungry hordes come, sure, just shoot them and hack them up with chain saws. It'll be okay. You'll be the winner.
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Postby JackRiddler » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:17 am

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Re: Zombies To Be Part Of Huge Counter Terror Program

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:19 am

Nordic wrote:I think it's just their little inside joke regarding this:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35449

We Are Now One Year Away From Global Riots, Complex Systems Theorists Say

I hate the zombie movies and shows. It's disgusting to watch people use shotguns and chainsaws to blow and whack apart human corpses. Why this passes as entertainment is beyond me.

So much for respecting the dead.

We're already dead. We're just a bunch of eaters, right? Consumers. Give us brains .....

When the hungry hordes come, sure, just shoot them and hack them up with chain saws. It'll be okay. You'll be the winner.


Well isnt that the ultimate right wing gun nut fantasy? Being holed up in your compound, blasting away socialist commie scumbags with a shotgun and assault rifle?
Btw Nordic, what did you think of the Road film? For some reason that film really stuck with me, was hard to shake.
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Postby Hammer of Los » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:46 am

...

I hate zombie movies too.

I don't like zombie neuroscientists, either.

Like images of tombstones, they know not the living spirit.

Oh, and I don't do Voodoo.

Well, maybe just a little.

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Re: Zombies To Be Part Of Huge Counter Terror Program

Postby Nordic » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:33 pm

8bitagent wrote:
Nordic wrote:I think it's just their little inside joke regarding this:

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... =8&t=35449

We Are Now One Year Away From Global Riots, Complex Systems Theorists Say

I hate the zombie movies and shows. It's disgusting to watch people use shotguns and chainsaws to blow and whack apart human corpses. Why this passes as entertainment is beyond me.

So much for respecting the dead.

We're already dead. We're just a bunch of eaters, right? Consumers. Give us brains .....

When the hungry hordes come, sure, just shoot them and hack them up with chain saws. It'll be okay. You'll be the winner.


Well isnt that the ultimate right wing gun nut fantasy? Being holed up in your compound, blasting away socialist commie scumbags with a shotgun and assault rifle?
Btw Nordic, what did you think of the Road film? For some reason that film really stuck with me, was hard to shake.


I had no desire to see it and still don't. I have a son and have to try to have some kind of hope for the future.
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:08 pm

Nordic wrote:
8bitagent wrote:
Nordic wrote:I think it's just their little inside joke regarding this:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35449

We Are Now One Year Away From Global Riots, Complex Systems Theorists Say

I hate the zombie movies and shows. It's disgusting to watch people use shotguns and chainsaws to blow and whack apart human corpses. Why this passes as entertainment is beyond me.

So much for respecting the dead.

We're already dead. We're just a bunch of eaters, right? Consumers. Give us brains .....

When the hungry hordes come, sure, just shoot them and hack them up with chain saws. It'll be okay. You'll be the winner.


Well isnt that the ultimate right wing gun nut fantasy? Being holed up in your compound, blasting away socialist commie scumbags with a shotgun and assault rifle?
Btw Nordic, what did you think of the Road film? For some reason that film really stuck with me, was hard to shake.


I had no desire to see it and still don't. I have a son and have to try to have some kind of hope for the future.


It's an amazing film, the kind Hollywood doesn't produce too often. But it's also devastatingly depressing as hell.
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Re: Zombies To Be Part Of Huge Counter Terror Program

Postby Nordic » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:38 am

8bitagent wrote:
Nordic wrote:
8bitagent wrote:
Nordic wrote:I think it's just their little inside joke regarding this:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35449

We Are Now One Year Away From Global Riots, Complex Systems Theorists Say

I hate the zombie movies and shows. It's disgusting to watch people use shotguns and chainsaws to blow and whack apart human corpses. Why this passes as entertainment is beyond me.

So much for respecting the dead.

We're already dead. We're just a bunch of eaters, right? Consumers. Give us brains .....

When the hungry hordes come, sure, just shoot them and hack them up with chain saws. It'll be okay. You'll be the winner.


Well isnt that the ultimate right wing gun nut fantasy? Being holed up in your compound, blasting away socialist commie scumbags with a shotgun and assault rifle?
Btw Nordic, what did you think of the Road film? For some reason that film really stuck with me, was hard to shake.


I had no desire to see it and still don't. I have a son and have to try to have some kind of hope for the future.


It's an amazing film, the kind Hollywood doesn't produce too often. But it's also devastatingly depressing as hell.


I'm depressed enough as it is. One of the reasons I haven't been spending that much time here in the last few months. (the last few days are a different matter)
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Postby 8bitagent » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:26 pm

Nordic wrote:
8bitagent wrote:
Nordic wrote:
8bitagent wrote:
Nordic wrote:I think it's just their little inside joke regarding this:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=35449

We Are Now One Year Away From Global Riots, Complex Systems Theorists Say

I hate the zombie movies and shows. It's disgusting to watch people use shotguns and chainsaws to blow and whack apart human corpses. Why this passes as entertainment is beyond me.

So much for respecting the dead.

We're already dead. We're just a bunch of eaters, right? Consumers. Give us brains .....

When the hungry hordes come, sure, just shoot them and hack them up with chain saws. It'll be okay. You'll be the winner.


Well isnt that the ultimate right wing gun nut fantasy? Being holed up in your compound, blasting away socialist commie scumbags with a shotgun and assault rifle?
Btw Nordic, what did you think of the Road film? For some reason that film really stuck with me, was hard to shake.


I had no desire to see it and still don't. I have a son and have to try to have some kind of hope for the future.


It's an amazing film, the kind Hollywood doesn't produce too often. But it's also devastatingly depressing as hell.


I'm depressed enough as it is. One of the reasons I haven't been spending that much time here in the last few months. (the last few days are a different matter)


Even tho we lead completely different lives and situations, I can more than relate. I've been royally feeling not just in a fog, but in a strange slip between reality.
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Postby elfismiles » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:14 pm

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/407/309 ... -invasion-

Marines, police prep for mock zombie invasion
Saturday - 10/27/2012, 5:25pm EDT
By JULIE WATSON
Associated Press


SAN DIEGO (AP) - Move over vampires, goblins and haunted houses, this kind of Halloween terror aims to shake up even the toughest warriors: An untold number of so-called zombies are coming to a counterterrorism summit attended by hundreds of Marines, Navy special ops, soldiers, police, firefighters and others to prepare them for their worst nightmares.

"This is a very real exercise, this is not some type of big costume party," said Brad Barker, president of Halo Corp, a security firm hosting the Oct. 31 training demonstration during the summit at a 44-acre Paradise Point Resort island on a San Diego bay. "Everything that will be simulated at this event has already happened, it just hasn't happened all at once on the same night. But the training is very real, it just happens to be the bad guys we're having a little fun with."

Hundreds of military, law enforcement and medical personnel will observe the Hollywood-style production of a zombie attack as part of their emergency response training.

In the scenario, a VIP and his personal detail are trapped in a village, surrounded by zombies when a bomb explodes. The VIP is wounded and his team must move through the town while dodging bullets and shooting back at the invading zombies. At one point, some members of the team are bit by zombies and must be taken to a field medical facility for decontamination and treatment.

"No one knows what the zombies will do in our scenario, but quite frankly no one knows what a terrorist will do," Barker said. "If a law enforcement officer sees a zombie and says, `Freeze, get your hands in the air!' What's the zombie going to do? He's going to moan at you. If someone on PCP or some other psychotic drug is told that, the truth is he's not going to react to you."

The keynote speaker beforehand will be a retired top spook _ former CIA Director Michael Hayden.

"No doubt when a zombie apocalypse occurs, it's going to be a federal incident, so we're making it happen," Barker said. Since word got out about the exercise, they've had calls from "every whack job in the world" about whether the U.S. government is really preparing for a zombie event.

Called "Zombie Apocalypse," the exercise follows the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's campaign launched last year that urged Americans to get ready for a zombie apocalypse, as part of a catchy, public health message about the importance of emergency preparedness.

The Homeland Security Department jumped on board last month, telling citizens if they're prepared for a zombie attack, they'll be ready for real-life disasters like a hurricane, pandemic, earthquake or terrorist attack. A few suggestions were similar to a few of the 33 rules for dealing with zombies popularized in the 2009 movie "Zombieland," which included "always carry a change of underwear" and "when in doubt, know your way out."

San Diego-based Halo Corp. founded by former military special ops and intelligence personnel has been hosting the annual counterterrorism summit since 2006.

The five-day Halo counterterrorism summit is an approved training event by the Homeland Security Grant Program and the Urban Areas Security Initiative, which provide funds to pay for the coursework on everything from the battleground tactics to combat wounds to cybersecurity. The summit has a $1,000 registration fee and runs Oct. 29-Nov 2.

Conferences attended by government officials have come under heightened scrutiny following an inspector general's report on waste and abuse at a lavish 2010 Las Vegas conference that led to the resignation of General Services Administrator Martha Johnson. The Las Vegas conference featured a clown, a mind-reader and a rap video by an employee who made fun of the spending.

Joe Newman, spokesman of the watchdog organization Project on Government Oversight, said he does not see the zombie exercise as frivolous.

"We obviously are concerned about any expenditure that might seem frivolous or a waste of money but if they tie things together, there is a lesson there," Newman said. "Obviously we're not expecting a zombie apocalypse in the near future, but the effects of what might happen in a zombie apocalypse are probably similar to the type of things that happen in natural disasters and manmade disasters. They're just having fun with it. We don't have any problems with it as a teaching point."

Defense analyst Loren Thompson agreed.

"The defining characteristics of zombies are that they're unpredictable and resilient. That may be a good way to prepare for what the Pentagon calls asymmetric warfare," Thompson said.

Organizers can also avoid the pitfalls of using a mock enemy who could be identified by nationality, race or culture _ something that could potentially be seen as offensive.

"I can think of a couple of countries where the local leaders are somewhat zombie-like," he joked. "But nobody is going to take this personally."
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:54 pm

You know, a Zombie invasion .... like Watts in 65 or South Central in 92 ....

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Note that US Secretary of the Army had already requisitioned an actual field manual for zombie combat a few years after the Dawn of the Dead reboot attracted a bazillion imitators. It got published in 2009 and you can still get it on Amazon.mil if you're curious. Liner notes:


The United States Army is prepared for every kind of combat. This is the soldier’s zombie combat field manual. It explains how to perform the combat skills needed to survive on the battlefield against the hordes of the Undead. All soldiers, across all branches, must learn these basic skills in preparation for battle against reanimated corpses.

Combat against the Undead is chaotic, intense, and shockingly destructive. In your first battle, you will experience the confusing and often terrifying sights, sounds, smells, and dangers of the zombie battlefield—and you must learn to survive and win despite them. You will be surrounded by destruction, death, and the Undead. Your leaders and fellow soldiers will shout urgent commands and warnings, lost in the drone of the advancing enemy. Friendly fire rounds will impact near you. The air will be filled with the smell of explosives, propellant, and decaying flesh. You will hear the screams of devoured comrades.

In all this confusion and fear, if you uphold your Warrior Ethos and follow the training provided in this book, you can win in battle against zombies and return home with honor. The book covers a breadth of topics, including:

Individual Readiness
Zombie Combat Care and Preventive Medicine
Environmental Conditions
Cover, Concealment, and Camouflage
Fighting Positions
Movement
Urban Area Procedures
“Every Soldier is a Sensor”
Zombie Combat Marksmanship
Communications
Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape


Still, at least pop-SOF is an improvement over COIN, of any persuasion.
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Postby DrEvil » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:41 pm

Hmm. This could almost make you think that someone, somewhere has developed something like the rage virus from 28 days later, and have now realized that maybe having a contingency or two in place is a good idea. I also like the choice of the middle east here. Why on earth would they expect a "zombie" outbreak in the middle east, unless they're planning one?

Or some bureaucrat somewhere is just bored with the same old exercises and figured that zombies can pass for pissed off civilians.

But on to more important matters! Are these the classic slow zombies, or the new fast ones?
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:02 pm

LSD is pretty cool stuff and all—but check out the effects of Quinuclidinyl Benzilate:

The delerious condition following intoxication with BZ agents is manifested by the clouding of consciousness and the thinking process, temporary and full loss of contact with surroundings, hallucenations, illusions, asynergy, strong psychomotor unrests and breaks in attention continuity.

It initially appears as dizzyness, then gains in intensity until the intoxicated person almost completely loses contact with the outside world. Such a condition is accompanied by different hallucenations (visual, audio, smell, tactile and so on), which represent the basic disturbances of perception. Among the affected disturbances, the strongest are discomfort and fear.

This total separation from reality tends to trigger violent behavior—which, if you put yourself in those shoes, is pretty understandable.

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And from Martin Lee and Bruce Schlain’s classic book Acid Dreams:

"According to Dr. Solomon Snyder, a leading psychopharmacologist at Johns Hopkins University, which conducted drug research for the Chemical Corps, “The army’s testing of LSD was just a sideshow compared to its use of BZ.” Clinical studies with EA-2277 (the code number for BZ) were initiated at Edgewood Arsenal in 1959 and continued until 1975. During this period an estimated twenty-eight hundred soldiers were exposed to the superhallucinogen. A number of military personnel have since come forward claiming that they were never the same after their encounter with BZ.

During the early 1960s the CIA and the military began to phase out their in-house acid tests in favor of more powerful chemicals such as BZ, which became the army’s standard incapacitating agent. By this time the superhallucinogen was ready for deployment in a grenade, a 750-pound cluster bomb, and at least one other large-scale bomb. The superhallucinogen was later employed by American troops as a counterinsurgency weapon in Vietnam, and according to CIA documents there may be contingency plans to use the drug in the event of a major civilian insurrection.
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Postby elfismiles » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:56 am

DrEvil wrote:Hmm. This could almost make you think that someone, somewhere has developed something like the rage virus from 28 days later, and have now realized that maybe having a contingency or two in place is a good idea. I also like the choice of the middle east here. Why on earth would they expect a "zombie" outbreak in the middle east, unless they're planning one?


That's what I've been thinking for a while now ...

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