11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

[crikkett]

The sign reads, "Remember Your Black Day 11 September,"
placed during protests in Cairo, Egypt, on September 11, 2012.

Looks like they included the front half of Romney's campaign logo

[8bitagent]

11th of 9/11: V for Vengeance
by Loren Coleman

<snip>

The 11th anniversary of 9/11 was dangerous and tragic. The symbolism of 11s has been significant to terrorists for years (which I detailed in The Copycat Effect). Thus, I was upset to see what unfolded, but I was not startled.


The sign reads, "Remember Your Black Day 11 September,"
placed during protests in Cairo, Egypt, on September 11, 2012.

Wow. Looks like occult workings are still strong in the birthplace, Egypt.

[8bitagent]

[elfismiles]

Thank you thurnundtaxis for alerting us to this book.

My copy arrived a couple days ago.

8-bit, you might be interested in this volume coming next week from Trineday:

[b]The Most Dangerous Book in the World: 9/11 as Mass Ritual[/b
by S.K. Bain foreword by Peter Levenda]

http://www.trineday.com/paypal_store/pr ... index.html

Dude...wtf?

S.K. Bain is the former art director of The Weekly Standard magazine, where he worked with
William Kristol, Fred Barnes, David Brooks, Tucker Carlson and others for over five years.
During part of that time, the Project for the New American Century shared offices with the
publication, and next door was the Philanthropy Roundtable, where Bain art directed for
Philanthropy magazine. The Roundtable at that point was under the leadership of John P.
Walters, who went on to become President George W. Bush’s Drug Czar.
In the mid-nineties, Bain was art director for the Oxford American magazine when it
was published by John Grisham and located in Oxford, MS. In 2009, Bain helped author
portions of U.S. Public Law 111-11, which designated three new wilderness areas.

Not that I'll hold it against him.

I just got done reading the foreward/first 15 pages and table of contents. Rather surprised a book like this would come out, let alone by someone coming from a satiracal/scholarly position that seems to have a strong knowledge of the occult(and doesn't come from some David Icke or Christian Evangelical position)
Though, I wonder if this dude has seen my posts? From the end of chapter 1

Was the US government manipulated or "hijacked" by extremely sophisticated and powerful international actors? What if the above were true, but this wasn't even the half of it? What if the truth were even more disturbing?

I often would switch back between thinking the strong esoteric current that snakes and wraps around the 9/11 event was intentional or simply syncs. Mohammed Atta left a "will" or declaration of some sort in his belongings(that mysteriously didnt make the puddle jumper flight from Portland Maine) that ended with the word ROOM in big letters with snakes encoiling a sword.
"But what does it all mean?" - Pontypool.

The theory of a black hand in 9/11 is certainly an intriguing one, given the precise template of the symbolism/numerology/etc to ritual. Something perhaps above Cheney or bin Laden's paygrade or knowledge.

Tho Im just trying to stick to mainstream news article based facts that show a shadow side to the 9/11 yarn...lest I be accused of being too much of a weirdo:)

[8bitagent]

I can imagine that Hopsicker is running wild with this new story
http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/ ... ar-581530/

And yes, I too am curious why Atta seemed engaged with visiting Las Vegas. Perhaps so he and the boys could blow all their Dubai/British-Saudi arms money on more drugs and hookers?
http://www.lvrj.com/news/theories-on-wh ... 60398.html

[82_28]

I read those links, 8bit, and I am left with this still nagging, but even more nagging feeling of why won't the MSM treat the fucking collapses of all three buildings as CD yet? What is the goal of this narrative? Anybody who knows anything knows it was CD. Sorry, can never tell who comes or goes on that issue. But I know an explosives expert and he and I talked a month ago or so and he is certain all of it CD. The terrorism angle is the only way they could get it done and "get away with it".

Again, kinda like the interpolation of time theory, WE DO NOT KNOW IF ANYBODY WAS ON THOSE PLANES OR NOT. None of us. We also do not know if the buildings were all set up for CD. What we do know is, it happened and was meant to be a psychological spectacle. Thus it was. Therein is our hint.

[8bitagent]

I read those links, 8bit, and I am left with this still nagging, but even more nagging feeling of why won't the MSM treat the fucking collapses of all three buildings as CD yet? What is the goal of this narrative? Anybody who knows anything knows it was CD. Sorry, can never tell who comes or goes on that issue. But I know an explosives expert and he and I talked a month ago or so and he is certain all of it CD. The terrorism angle is the only way they could get it done and "get away with it".

Again, kinda like the interpolation of time theory, WE DO NOT KNOW IF ANYBODY WAS ON THOSE PLANES OR NOT. None of us. We also do not know if the buildings were all set up for CD. What we do know is, it happened and was meant to be a psychological spectacle. Thus it was. Therein is our hint.

It's become such a contentious issue, that for arguments sake I just say I agree with most of the 9/11 debunking sites when I debate people and instead offer the Saudi/Dubai/Israeli/Pakistani connections.
I think you'd like Core of Corruption, which is probably the ultimate documentary. Really goes deep deep deep into both the CD stuff *and* the Saudi/Israeli/etc stuff.

What I think I can agree with 10000% with you is that the towers *had* to fall and that the whole thing was the ultimate psyop. It's shocking to encounter so many otherwise bright, liberal anti authoritarian people(especially in the underground music scene) who laugh at the idea of anything other than independently ran angry Arabs. I do believe it's bin Laden in the "confession" video(most likely from a strange sort of sting op)
and even he says he's shocked the towers fell.

[8bitagent]

Thanks to Thatsmystory.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01 ... ents-show/

(Im bumping this as I feel it's the closest thing to a vastly needed update to the coincidence theorists guide, and I list quite a lot of smoking gun facts reported by the media in more recent years)

The FBI suspected within days of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks that the American Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki may have purchased tickets for some of the hijackers for air travel in advance of the attacks, according to newly released documents reviewed exclusively by Fox News.

The purpose of these flights remains unclear, but the 9/11 Commission report later noted that the hijackers had used flights in the lead-up to the attacks to test security and surveillance.

The heavily redacted records – obtained by Judicial Watch through a Freedom of information Act request – suggest the FBI held evidence tying the American-born cleric to the hijackers just 16 days after the attack that killed nearly 3,000 Americans.

“We have FBI documents showing that the FBI knew that al-Awlaki had bought three tickets for three of the hijackers to fly into Florida and into Las Vegas, including the lead hijacker, Mohammad Atta,” Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, told Fox News.

He added that the records show the cleric, killed in September 2011 by a U.S. drone strike in Yemen, “was a central focus of the FBI's investigation of 9/11. They show he wasn't cooperative. And they show that he was under surveillance.”

One FBI investigative report known as a 302 summarizes the bureau’s investigation of Al-Awlaki’s Visa transactions. While heavily redacted, the document indicates a credit transaction for “Atta, Mohammed -- American West Airlines, 08/13/2001, Washington, DC to Las Vegas to Miami," the document says.

The mid-August flight, according to the Joint Congressional Inquiry into 9/11, which first investigated the attacks, was one of Atta’s numerous and crucial surveillance flights.

"On August 13, Atta flew a second time across country from Washington to Las Vegas on a Boeing 757 (seated in first class) returning on August 14 to Fort Lauderdale," the 9/11 report reads.

The FBI documents also show a credit card record for a “Suqami, S. ----Southwest Airlines, 07/10/2001, Ft. Lauderdale to Orlando.” Satam al-Suqami was one of the muscle hijackers on American Airlines Flight 11, which slammed into the World Trade Center on Sept. 11.

The third individual, identified in the records is a “W. al-Sheri -- National Airlines, 08/01/2001, San Francisco to Las Vegas to Miami.” This appears to be either Waleed al-Shehri or Wail al-Shehri. The two brothers were also muscle hijackers, according to the 9/11 Commission report.

As part of its ongoing investigation of the cleric, Fox News was first to report in the special “Fox News Reporting - The Secrets of 9/11,” broadcast in September 2011, that the cleric was an overlooked key player in the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

Fox News was also first to report that the cleric was a guest speaker on moderate Islam at a Pentagon executive dining room in February 2002. The newly released documents now suggest the FBI knew five months earlier of al-Awlaki’s probable link to the hijackers.

Fox News was also first to report that al-Awlaki was held at New York City’s JFK airport on Oct. 10, 2002, under a warrant for passport fraud, a felony punishable by 10 years. However, as Fox News was first to document, an FBI agent, Wade Ammerman, from the bureau’s Washington field office ordered the cleric be released from custody, even though there was an active warrant for his arrest.

Fox News’ reporting, which has not been publicly disputed by the bureau, suggests that after the 9/11 attacks the FBI tried to work with al-Awlaki or track him for intelligence purposes. Fitton says the newly released documents raise hard questions for two administrations.

“If he was working for us, to then kill him, that's an extraordinary decision. And we need more information from the administration," Fitton said. "And remember this is not just about the Obama administration. A lot of what we are talking about goes back to the Bush administration. So the Bush administration and the Obama administration need to answer about how Awlaki was handled.”

Fox News asked the FBI for comment on the documents, specifically how the Awlaki lead was pursued in September 2001. Bureau spokeswoman Kathleen Wright responded by saying, “The FBI cautions against drawing conclusions from redacted FOIA documents. The FBI and investigating bodies have not found evidence connecting Anwar al-Awlaki and the attack on Sept. 11, 2001. The document referenced does not link Anwar al-Awlaki with any purchase of airline tickets for the hijackers.”

In response, Judicial Watch said, “the document speaks for itself.” The organization “encouraged the FBI to release the document in its entirety, without redactions, for full transparency.”

Wright said she was not aware of any plans by the FBI to do so at this time.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01 ... z2Hl3qZD6G

[NeonLX]

Nuttin' to add, just bumping because of fascination.

[KeenInsight]

Again, kinda like the interpolation of time theory, WE DO NOT KNOW IF ANYBODY WAS ON THOSE PLANES OR NOT. None of us.

Indeed, although I always thought the remote-controlled plane hypothesis was the most interesting/plausible, not sure which word to describe it. Certainly it was and is possible technologically. Ever since watching that Lone Gunmen episode made before 9/11 even took place was just entirely too eerie for me to dismiss. They say art imitates reality after all, perhaps a sneak peek? They say the 2 planes originated from Boston Logan airport.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3WW6eoLcLI (at 2:33 guess where the planes in the "fiction" are from, Boston Logan Airport... wtf?) What dark sorcerer magic is going on here? Coincidence cubed?

Maybe there were people on those planes, having no idea what was about to happen, perhaps even pilots on board who no longer had control of the steering wheel so to speak. Maybe agents were on board believing they were part of an exercise. So many things that will never be known.

Sadly there were no good guys to stop it from happening.

[FourthBase]

Sadly there were no good guys to stop it from happening.

Not so fast. There may have been good guys who tried to stop it but were thwarted. For example, we cannot be sure what Daniel Lewin would have been doing on that plane, right behind and in front of hijackers.

And then there are the 93 fellas, who may have actually been just as heroic as we've been told, but in a different context.

[KeenInsight]

Sadly there were no good guys to stop it from happening.

Not so fast. There may have been good guys who tried to stop it but were thwarted. For example, we cannot be sure what Daniel Lewin would have been doing on that plane, right behind and in front of hijackers.

And then there are the 93 fellas, who may have actually been just as heroic as we've been told, but in a different context.

Anything that is "According to the 9/11 Commission," deserves more scrutiny in most occurrences. Sitting by Atta, the best pilot in history.

The point of my post is that, IF those planes were to have suddenly been hijacked by remote-control there would have been little chance the passengers and pilots could have hoped to prevent such a situation to be flown to their eventual doom as sacrifices for some elements, at the control, somewhere else. There were no Lone Gunmen, the good guys (people "in the know") to save the day.

The supposed 'uprising' of Flight 93 is also just a hypothesis. And so is Flight 93 being taking out by missile or bomb. What were they heroically doing? Believing they were taking out the 'bad' Muslim characters on board? If such labeled 'bad guys' were on board, were they legitimately terrorists or were they hired for a convenient training exercise? Why was Flight 93 flying around for 2 hours when the first 'attacks' took place, why were its transponders switched off, why was it declared lost, why was the military so confused when they were trained for such an exact event?

To sit and take declarations from authorities, which may or may not have been possibly based on fabricated evidence is dangerous. What should be of most concern out of the entire narrative of 9/11 is that the government lied.

[8bitagent]

Sadly there were no good guys to stop it from happening.

Not so fast. There may have been good guys who tried to stop it but were thwarted. For example, we cannot be sure what Daniel Lewin would have been doing on that plane, right behind and in front of hijackers.

And then there are the 93 fellas, who may have actually been just as heroic as we've been told, but in a different context.

I find it credible they could have rushed the cabin. Did it happen to be the perfect narrative for the gub'ment and media? Sure...but it was not at the forefront. The attacks in NYC and Arlington were along with all the other noise.

The "Phantom" planes(appearing as inject blips at the same time on FAA And Norad radars) is one of the oddest anomalies of 9/11 I can recall, as far as the 'stand down' theory(which I think is more intentional confusion than standing down per se) Blips mimicking Flight 11 and 93? Weird. Especially a phantom flight 93 continuing on toward DC after the actual plane had crashed after 10am.

[FourthBase]

Sadly there were no good guys to stop it from happening.

Not so fast. There may have been good guys who tried to stop it but were thwarted. For example, we cannot be sure what Daniel Lewin would have been doing on that plane, right behind and in front of hijackers.

And then there are the 93 fellas, who may have actually been just as heroic as we've been told, but in a different context.

I find it credible they could have rushed the cabin. Did it happen to be the perfect narrative for the gub'ment and media? Sure...but it was not at the forefront. The attacks in NYC and Arlington were along with all the other noise.

It may only seem to us like the perfect narrative for them in hindsight. We (the RI universe) have a tendency to interpret everything, literally everything, into a recursive infinite horizon, as a finely-calibrated part of some evil genius plan, when surely some random unwanted shit does happen, complicating and even threatening to unravel even the best of evil genius plans.

The "Phantom" planes(appearing as inject blips at the same time on FAA And Norad radars) is one of the oddest anomalies of 9/11 I can recall, as far as the 'stand down' theory(which I think is more intentional confusion than standing down per se) Blips mimicking Flight 11 and 93? Weird. Especially a phantom flight 93 continuing on toward DC after the actual plane had crashed after 10am.

A phantom 93 blip continuing toward DC suggests an original plan that failed, correct? Suggests that the reported heroism of 93 passengers is in some way authentic?

[82_28]

Well, 9/11 is kinda why we're all here. I think we all were interpreting and were drawn to Jeff as though a flame in the night. I see Jeremy Puma just donated and I haven't talked to that guy in years. But he's who brought me here and we were once neighbors. And to read the words of Mr. Wells was such a breath of fresh air in those days. I would have never known any of what I know, including say, for example PKD either were it not for that guy and Jeff. Coming on the heels of the Great Stolen Election, in which I myself, voted for Nader, I was immediately skeptical, like within minutes of the 9/11 date. DUH.

I've basically become of the mind of not what I know in any given circumstance since then, but of the mind that my only clues are what I don't know and then I dream up what I know about human behavior. I'm not always right. But it's like panning for gold, you know?