Did you know the Iraq war is over?

[lupercal]

something else you probably didn't know: Romney is promising Bibi he'll be the good little bomber Obama isn't:
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Romney slams Obama over 'failure' on Iran issue
In 'Meet the Press' interview, Republican presidential candidate says Obama's policy of engagement hasn't worked
Yitzhak Benhorin | 09.09.12, 22:12 | Israel News


WASHINGTON - Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is criticizing US President Barack Obama for his failure to handle the Iranian nuclear issue.

In an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press," Romney said that Obama has had “some successes and he's had some failures” in the field of foreign policy.

“The president hasn’t drawn us any further away from a nuclear Iran,” Romney said. “That’s his greatest (foreign policy) failure."

“President Obama had a policy of engagement with Ahmadinejad. That policy has not worked, and we’re closer to a nuclear weapon as a result of that. I will have a very different approach with regards to Iran.

"And it’s an approach which, by the way, the president’s finally getting closer to. It begins with crippling sanctions. That should have been put in place long ago.” oh yeah, crippling sanctions!

Asked about his own red line in connection to Iran's nuclear program, he said that the US must use any resource at its disposal to derail the program, but stressed that the military option should not be put off the table.

President Obama has a slight edge over Romney following last week's Democratic National Convention. Sources close to Romney said that the "swing states" will determine the election. “Their map has many more routes to victory,” said a top Republican official.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 71,00.html
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so yeah, sometimes there really is a bright line between platforms, and sometimes it really does matter to many millions of people who you vote for, and this is without doubt one of those times. But you won't catch any talking head telling you that, not this year. They're all still yammering about one lousy NYT hit piece on drone strikes. ONE freaking article and the rest is propaganda history... ...

[lupercal]

3 - i'm in frakking Texas - aint gonna matter who I vote for my idiot state brethren aren't supportin yer candidate

Oh I don't know elfi, never say never.. wasn't Texas a Dem state once upon a time? Heard this tonight on npr:

Finding a path back to relevance in the region is the mission of the Blue South Project, run by Charleston, S.C., strategist Phil Noble. . . .

States that have been able to bridge that divide are the bright spots where Democrats can compete, Noble says. That would include states like Virginia and North Carolina — both in play in the presidential race.

"They were red and now they're competitive. And Georgia, arguably, is not too far behind," Noble says. "You look further down the road — Texas is going to flip, and when Texas flips, it's flipped forever, or at least for a few generations, just simply because of demographics."

http://www.npr.org/2012/09/19/161415754 ... -relevance

The times they are a-changin' back it seems.



. . . And when we sing another little victory song,
Precious friend, you will be there,
Singing in harmony,
Precious friend, you will be there.

[StarmanSkye]

The caricatures of US Red & Blue state electorate which Obomama & Romneycon are each pandering to is one of the most disgusting vile minds-eye images about who (or rather what) the morally-degenerate conmen sellout hucksters that comprise the Shadow Government have turned Americans into. Since I can't relate to either 'group' I wouldn't be true to myself, let alone to the ideals and principles of liberty, citizen empowerment, self-realization, dignity & respect based on regard for Truth, it wouldn't be possible for me to vote without loathing. There's something infinitely wrong with a system of government and the people in it that elicits loathing. I would rather mount an all-day solitary strike-vigil fast with that message as my sign than vote and commemorate it with a celebratory feast.

God DAMN them.

[lupercal]

Since I can't relate to either 'group' I wouldn't be true to myself, let alone to the ideals and principles of liberty, citizen empowerment, self-realization, dignity & respect based on regard for Truth, it wouldn't be possible for me to vote without loathing.

hmm.. yes I suppose the red-blue divide as a rah-rah football rivalry is pretty disgusting, I agree with that, but then everything is disgusting after it's run through corporate media. But there is a divide, and it's serious, because the red-state agenda, as represented for example by the current US House of reps, is monomaniacally focused on 1) blocking all and any Dem legislation, 2) eliminating taxes paid by corporations, banks, and wealthy individuals, and 3) obnoxious wedge issues. And that's pretty much the red-state agenda. The blue-state agenda, as represented for example by the Obama legislative record, is something altogether different, and not, except in the all-too familiar anomalies (drones, Afghanistan), especially loathsome. Among other accomplishments -- ACA, auto bailout, START Treaty, many middle- and working-class assistance programs -- are these for example:

69. Closed a number of secret detention facilities.
http://nyti.ms/rpUc9l

73. Refused to give Israel the green light to attack Iran over their possible nuclear program, and thus avoid another war that Republicans wanted.
http://bit.ly/xVmSZK (from 2009!)

77. Established new, more reasonable policies in our relations with Cuba, such as allowing Cuban-Americans to visit their families and send money to support them.
http://n.pr/hY3Kwa
http://nyti.ms/emQBde

78. Ordered the closure of the prison at Guantanamo Bay. It was Republicans (and, unfortunately, progressive Democrats) who prevented follow through.
http://bit.ly/eW6CVF

79. Ordered a review of our detention and interrogation policy, and prohibited the use of torture, or what Bush called "enhanced interrogation." He ordered interrogators to limit their actions to the Army Field manual.
http://bit.ly/g6MTuC

80. Ordered all secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere to be closed.
http://bbc.in/h6N9ax

81. Released the Bush torture memos.
http://bit.ly/hWJ5z0

82. On his second day in office, he signed a detailed Executive Order that banned torture, reversed all Bush torture policies, and put the United States in compliance with the Geneva Convention. (Remember that?)
http://1.usa.gov/dL6Zve
http://nyti.ms/hzWWys

85. Ended the Iraq War. http://tgr.ph/ru0tyS

from a list of 200 here: http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/mai ... -2009.html

So when you look at the actual record, it's impressive. If you listen to Hedges and other critics, it's loathsome. But you have to ask, why aren't Hedges and co at least giving Obama credit for keeping the US and Israel out of Iran? And I think the only honest answer is that they're lying. So ignore the liars and focus on the actual record and maybe voting won't seem so futile and loathsome.

[Hammer of Los]

...

Loopy ain't so loopy.

Never say never.

That's right.

Right intention and right action can create wonderful results.

Vote and offer it up to God.

Do your best to try and make sure the republicans never regain office.

Even if you think you are doomed to failure.

Don't worry.

Worry won't help you.

A vote just might.

Infinitesmal chance maybe.

But still some chance.

And that's all chaos magick needs to work, you know.

...

[StarmanSkye]

^^^
Granted; conditional but whatever;
But by accomodating an enormous dishonorable, mendicious fraud that perpetuates & strengthes the criminal machinery of cover-up (911), wars of empire, terroristic incitements, non-stop propaganda ... etc and all the bullshit of Police State oppression thru voting in this charade of leser-than 2-faced single-party plutocracy
demohypocrisy
just aids & abets it.

They can keep that scam going forever by deflecting a final reckoning when no-one participates in it any longer.

The only long-term strategy for peacefully forcing an inside-out reform of a corrupt & decrepit system is
disinvestment, possibly along with shaming & treating the Federal Bureaucracy like a despised Pariah;
IOW, Ignore it & treat it like a detested permanent outsider, not representative of what it presumes to stand-for;
By its own history of opportunistic scheming & criminal collusion & abuse of authority
it is illegitimate.

Cut all financial and practical support which conveys legitimacy,
liberate self from dependency on the rottoness to the extent that is possible
or make them bear a heavy price by taking your full-share cut from the treasury
in payment for services rendered, pensions and/or worker-payout
as per retirement or healthcare insurance disability assistance

Taking your due is not a cop-out
while bleeding the system is a time-worn tactic of guerilla activist resisters fighting for their lives & ideals;

Don't Feed The Monster Big Brutha Beast
MIC-addicted Gummint Racket-conspiracy.

It only perpetuates because we don't say,
Hell NO!!!