The 2012 "Election" thread

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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby 82_28 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:03 pm

The normally updated "citizenlink.com" website, (focus on the family) hasn't even gotten around to updating their homepage yet. I count this as a sign that there is going to be a "revolution" from the right. I think they are still formulating a response. The right has never been beaten this handily ever in all corners. Especially, in their own state. Colorado killed it! Good job amigos.

It is so amazing how similar Colorado and Washington are. I just prefer being at sea level and like it more dark.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby yathrib » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:04 pm

Nugent's Twitter today:

https://twitter.com/TedNugent



8bitagent wrote:If well known right wing personalities like Ted Nugent are saying this sort of shit...

In this clip, Ted Nugent calls Obama a "piece of shit", holds up a rifle and says Obama should suck on this. Seriously



Here, he says he'll be dead or in jail if Obama wins


...lord knows what the St---f----, white nationalist, patriot militia, lone wolf types are saying or thinking...

I had heard Nugent made crazy comments, but this was just shocking to see and hear.
Again, if "celebrities" are saying this sort of stuff...good lord.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby beeline » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:19 pm

Jeff posted this earlier on Facebook. Warning: nsfw & contains hateful speech


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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:32 pm

Mixed bag of California ballot propositions. No GMO labeling. Did not repeal death penalty. Changed "three strikes" and got some financing for education.

he results for the 11 propositions on Tuesday's ballot reinforced one thing: California voters remain unpredictable. They softened the Three Strikes law, but kept the death penalty intact; our supposedly health-conscious denizens don't care to know if their food is genetically modified; and they voted for a tax hike, even as the state economy continues to struggle. Go figure.

Prop 30 — Temporary taxes to fund education: The Governor’s initiative rebounded after a precipitous drop late in the polls (54%-46%). The threat of $6 billion in cuts to public schools and universities was the motivation for a majority of voters. (For more, click here.)

Prop 31 —Establishes two-year state budget cycle: This cornucopia of government reforms fell flat with voters, who rejected it by a wide margin (60%-40%). While Californians consistently give state lawmakers low approval ratings, they were not convinced the proposed changes would make much of a difference. Some politicos think the measure was too confusing for voters.

Prop 32 — Prohibits unions from using payroll-deducted funds for political purposes: A majority of voters disapproved of doing away with the ability of unions to raise money for political contributions (56%-44%). While many Californians agree that unions hold too much sway over Sacramento, they disliked the idea of giving unions less sway than corporations.

Prop 33 — Auto insurance prices based on driver history: Voters resoundingly rejected the measure funded solely by the Chairman of Mercury General Insurance (55%-45%). The proposal would have allowed insurance companies to offer discount to new customers who've maintained coverage. But Consumer Watchdog countered that insurance companies would offset the savings to those drivers by merely increasing rates other drivers pay.

Prop 34 — Repeals death penalty and replaces it with life imprisonment without possibility of parole: Californians aren’t ready to give up the death penalty (53%-47%). Opponents of the measure argued that the state should maintain capital punishment for the most heinous criminals. That message resonated with voters despite a slow appeals process and legal challenges to the state’s methods that have delayed the execution of 3,100 inmates sentenced to death. California’s has executed just 13 inmates since it reinstated capital punishment.

Prop 35 — Increases criminal penalties for human trafficking: The measure gained an early lead and maintained it through the night (81%-19%). The coalition of victims groups, prosecutors and politicians in support faced no formal opposition.

Prop 36 — Revises three strikes law: Californians overwhelmingly supported easing the Three Strikes law, which is the toughest in the nation (69%-31%). Until now, anyone convicted of two serious or violent felonies could be sentenced to 25 years to life if they committed a third crime — even if that last crime was relatively minor. Now the third conviction would have to be violent or serious in nature. The change allows 2,800 three-strikers to apply for a reduction of their sentences.

Prop 37 — Genetically engineered foods labeling: Voters sided with large agriculture companies who warned that forcing growers and food manufacturers to label all genetically modified foods would raise food prices (53%-47%). Opponents spent $46 million to defeat the measure. Supporters raised just $9 million, relying heavily on social media to reach voters.

Prop 38 — Tax for education. early childhood programs: The revenues from this sliding scale tax increase would have infused public schools with billions of dollars over more than a decade, but it proved less popular with voters than Prop 30 which raises income tax on just the wealthiest Californians (73%-27%). The measure's main proponent and funder, civil rights attorney Molly Munger, conceded defeat early in the night.

Prop 39 — Business tax for energy funding: Voters overwhelmingly favored getting rid of a law that allows multi-state companies to choose the most favorable sales tax method (60%-40%). Removing that option will generate an extra $1 billion annually for California. That turned out to be a no-brainer for voters. It also helped that no corporation chose to oppose the change.

Prop 40 — Redistricting, State Senate: Two years ago, voters approved new districts established through a bi-partisan citizen commission. State Republican lawmakers had challenged the new political maps in court. But after the California Supreme Court rejected the legal effort, Republicans withdrew their support for Prop 40, which ended up losing by a wide margin (72%-28%).
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:43 pm

yathrib wrote:You're definitely barking up the wrong tree WRT Tammy Baldwin, unless you're one of those exceedingly confident men who thinks "lesbian" means "You can watch, and maybe join us in the middle" rather than "Your services are no longer required."


Au contraire. Even if she were hetero, my barking chances would be identically zero. I find her hawt, which by the way is also true of the future California governor, George Clooney. I'd rather be watching her on the news than, um, anyone else except my favorite politician-infatuation until yesterday. (Sorry, Elizabeth Warren.)
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby compared2what? » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:56 pm

8bitagent wrote:If well known right wing personalities like Ted Nugent are saying this sort of shit...

In this clip, Ted Nugent calls Obama a "piece of shit", holds up a rifle and says Obama should suck on this. Seriously
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That was in 2007, though. Not that it makes it any less horrifying that he's still a figure of some value and standing to the GOP. But at least it's more like "There will always be a Ted Nugent" than it is a newly dawning threat, you know?

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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby 82_28 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:57 pm

beeline wrote:Jeff posted this earlier on Facebook. Warning: nsfw & contains hateful speech




Hahaha. What a projector he is. He is the exact reason there are dumb fucks in his midst. The exact reason. And he blames the "dumb fucks" for being just like him and are sick of motherfuckers just like him for creating this mess. What a fucking idiot. Oh well, I guess just like always, we've just gotta keep being aware these abused morons still exist and watch each others' backs. There is just no psychological trick to make him and them like him realize what fools they actually are. Like the shooters everywhere, they're just gonna snap -- and they snap because of their exact frame of mind which causes others to snap and then blame the snapping on those who aren't susceptible to snapping and then they in turn threaten the rest of us with snapping.

This is what double binds do to stupid people and this is why they are used. Sorry guy. Even if you kill me, you still lost.

What was it Sun Tzu said? "To not inform a populace the reason for war is to throw them away". I just paraphrased there.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby justdrew » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:47 pm

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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby 82_28 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:56 pm

I just watched the end of that video of the ranting asshole and figures, he said "good thing that cat's declawed". What an asshat. That right there is enough for me to hate that fucker. Just that. That alone. Only wingers declaw their cats. I sincerely hope this shit goes viral to convince those not convinced that at the very least the right is steeped in hatred and their Jedi mind tricks no longer work. I hope it gets remixed and reapportioned to show what a cancer these fuckers are on society. I hope it makes the welfare military think about their hiring practices. And apparently Mullican Flooring wasn't paying Mr. Uncle what the taxpayers were and so he just aw shucks-ed it up and took the job anyways and "served for his country". What a fucking tool.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby 82_28 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:02 pm

justdrew wrote:reported for promoting terrorism


Damn. Guess I loaded it just in time. I've got it all right here. Drew, how can I preserve it now that it's all downloaded on sitting in a tab?
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:21 pm

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Visited the "Uncle Rockford" youtube page posted above and it was titled, "Uncle Rockford WANTS YOU!!...for the New U.S.Malitia"

So I posted a comment in the comments section of his video pointing out the misspelling and the irony of calling scores of people "idiots" while misspelling a word that is presumably central to his, er.. thesis.

Shortly thereafter he removed my comment [in its place is "comment removed, author withheld"] and changed the spelling to its proper form.

On edit, it wasn't worth the effort to provide such advice to this confused human, though I admit I was curious how he'd reply. Instead of owning up to his error, he decided to erase any evidence of it.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby DrEvil » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:00 pm

The problem with idiots like this is that they are too damn stupid to understand that they are stupid. This guy probably thinks he's a genius, and that anyone who actually is smarter than him is an idiot.
There's really no point in trying to argue with these people. Coherent sentences just pisses them off even more.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby DrVolin » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:30 pm

So it looks to me like someone at Romney headquarters hit the big emergency 'win' button around 9 last night. Romney surged ahead in FLA, briefly, and at the same time suddenly closed the Ohio gap from 60-40 to near 50-50. But either the underestimated the amount of win they would need, or someone on the other side took counter-measures. In any case, very interesting evening. It was especially interesting to see the change in demeanor of Alex Castellano on CNN before and after the sudden surge that stalled, and listening to Rove going into shock over Ohio about 4 hours after it had been called.
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Re: The 2012 "Election" thread

Postby justdrew » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:44 pm

82_28 wrote:
justdrew wrote:reported for promoting terrorism


Damn. Guess I loaded it just in time. I've got it all right here. Drew, how can I preserve it now that it's all downloaded on sitting in a tab?


it's still online.

download with a firefox plugin called "download helper" currently on version 4.9.11
dont use it's "conversion" features. just download the flv or mp4 version. sometimes you'll need to refresh a page to see all the download options. VLC will play them if you don't have anything else that does. (videolan.org)
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