David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby brekin » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:27 pm

barracuda wrote:
No one mentions an extra-marital affair in their public statement of resignation unless they're trying to short-circuit an extortion/blackmail attempt. His upcoming testimony is a bit of suspicious timing.


Agreed. Timing is everything with these things. The F.B.I. investigating this? Sounds like someone wanted leverage.

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What the F does that have to do with running the CIA? More to the point, one would think performing such acts of relative immorality would only strengthen his standing as director of the CIA.


Quite a lot I suppose. If the C.I.A. director can't even run a quiet extramarital affair and keep it on the down low then
he's not qualified for the job. Would you want a man who can't do his own dirty laundry, washing the nation's dirty laundry?
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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:38 pm

The FBI was investigating the woman hacking into Petraeus's email that's how he was outed....the investigation has nothing to do with the affair
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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby barracuda » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:50 pm

CIA Director David Petraeus resigned Friday after admitting to an extramarital affair -- an affair with his biographer that was revealed over the course of an FBI investigation, Fox News has learned.

The FBI had been investigating an unrelated and much broader case before stumbling on the affair. Fox News has learned that during the course of this investigation, the name of biographer Paula Broadwell came up. The FBI followed that lead and in doing so, uncovered his affair with her. The FBI for some time was concerned that perhaps Petraeus was some sort of victim, but there has been no evidence discovered to back up such concerns.

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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby Ben D » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:00 pm

I'm going with the botched up Benghazi affair...understandably so much not revealed there as it appears it was a wholly CIA mission.

Loss of Ambassador, SEALS, CIA agents, Stinger Missiles...serious stuff,..where does the buck stop?
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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby justdrew » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:05 pm

on google, search result:
All In: The Education of General David Petraeus by Paula Broadwell
http://www.paulabroadwell.com
"Anyone seeking to understand the nature of American warfighting in the 21st century, how it is both like and utterly unlike that of any previous one, needs to ...


the site is very down.

but here's the home page from the googlecache:

very S&M sounding book title....
at any rate, he would seem to have learned something :eeyaa

ImageIn All In: The Education of General David Petraeus, Paula Broadwell and Vernon Loeb examine Petraeus’s career, his intellectual development as a military officer, and his impact on the U.S. military. Inherent in the story are salient lessons of transformational leadership -- inspirational insights for everyone from CEOs to young lieutenants.

While conducting research over the past three years, Broadwell was afforded extensive access by General Petraeus, his mentors, his subordinates, and his longtime friends. Over the course of Petraeus's command of ISAF-Afghanistan from July 2010 through July 2011, Broadwell embedded with the general, his headquarters staff, and his soldiers on the front lines of fighting across Afghanistan to chronicle the experiences of this American general as they are brought to bear in the terrible crucible of war. All In draws on hundreds of hours of exclusive interviews with Petraeus and his top officers and soldiers and on Broadwell's frontline reporting experience to tell the inside story of this commander's development and leadership in war from every vantage point.

When Petraeus assumed command in Afghanistan in July 2010, the conflict looked as bleak as at any moment in America’s nine years on the ground there. Petraeus’s defining idea - counterinsurgency - was immediately put to its most difficult test: the hard lessons learned during the surge in Iraq were to be applied in a radically different theater. To inform this unprecedented reporting of Petraeus’s command in Afghanistan, Broadwell takes readers through the arc of his "intellectual development" and evolution as a soldier from his education at West Point in the wake of Vietnam to his earlier service in Central America, Haiti, Kuwait, Bosnia, and Iraq.

In addition to presenting a portrait of the strategic challenges of modern warfare from Petraeus's perspective and providing unique biographical snapshots of his development, All In chronicles the outcome in Afghanistan of counterinsurgency strategies through the operational commands of several Petraeus protégés, with special emphasis on those who, like Petraeus, served with the 101st Airborne Division. All In also documents the general's role in the war in Washington, going behind the scenes for exclusive insights of negotiations during policy reviews of Afghanistan in Congress, the Pentagon, and the White House. Broadwell ultimately appraises Petraeus's impact on the entire U.S. military, including his role in galvanizing institutional adaptation. As America surveys a decade of untraditional warfare, All In shows that this much is clear: the career of General David Petraeus profoundly shaped our military and left an indelible mark on the next generation's leaders.


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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:25 pm

brekin wrote:
Belligerent Savant wrote:
What the F does that have to do with running the CIA? More to the point, one would think performing such acts of relative immorality would only strengthen his standing as director of the CIA.


Quite a lot I suppose. If the C.I.A. director can't even run a quiet extramarital affair and keep it on the down low then
he's not qualified for the job. Would you want a man who can't do his own dirty laundry, washing the nation's dirty laundry?


Was being a bit cheeky/silly there. However, as I replied in the other Petraeus thread,

True, though such things among such folks tend to leak only when necessary as leverage to mask something far more sinister.

Surely most high-minded politicians carry on with any variety of fellow humans, animals and/or objects of their desires, regardless of their marital status. Most of the time it's kept under wraps [though perhaps surreptitiously documented for potential future use]


That said, we [or rather, those of us who have an interest in the hiring/retention practices of the CIA] certainly wouldn't want the head of the CIA to be incapable of washing dirty laundry. Clearly, that is an area of required expertise for such a position.
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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby psynapz » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:48 pm

...a MIC Night of the Long Knives...
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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby 82_28 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:14 pm

I would guess, right wing shit or deep state shit once again. I mean, really, who the fuck cares? The wingers care. This is just an extra soccer ball being kicked onto the field with a bunch of 5 year olds playing. I really don't give a shit if a rich and powerful man had a fucking affair.

A: I'm not getting laid (I am in love, but am of an age where it ain't about getting the D wet -- dig? Love.)

B: Quit being so rich and powerful and commanding the "CIA" and then we can talk about your marital problems

I feel this has everything to do with the mandate of "the left" and how it can be further spun. If Jon Stewart can have clever writers so can the CIA.
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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby justdrew » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:37 pm

well, it'll be interesting to see who comes next.
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Postby Perelandra » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:44 pm

Simply, adultery is a security breach, because one becomes vulnerable to blackmail. Even in 2012.
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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:47 pm

justdrew wrote:well, it'll be interesting to see who comes next.


Someone, unfortunately, rather than no one. And since only motherfuckers qualify, it will be a motherfucker.
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Postby Ben D » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:55 pm

Perelandra wrote:Simply, adultery is a security breach, because one becomes vulnerable to blackmail. Even in 2012.


So the CIC isn't under the same constraints, Clinton...
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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:04 am

"Security breach"? We're talking about a criminal organization that was supposed to have been "shattered into 1000 pieces" 50 years ago, right?

And "adultery" is only a security risk because so many people beyond those actually involved in acts thereof have a demented interest in it. Whereas this guy has the blood of how many people on his hands?
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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA chief citing affair

Postby justdrew » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:06 am

so is the woman going to face charges for hacking into his e-mail? Or was it not her?

and by "hacking into" I men, "guessing his password" I doubt any actual "hacking" was involved.
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Postby Perelandra » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:16 am

Agreed, Jack. Reporting only my experience that extramarital activity is a factor in security clearances.
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