With a Bang

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Re: With a Bang

Postby 82_28 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:50 am

There is an infinite amount of time for hope in any given moment, yet there is also an infinite amount of time for despair in that same span. Personally I am a realist spiritualized optimist who when possible, UGH, when possible, I try to do the right thing -- .but it never works out, because I really am a pessimist, but can't stand pessimism around me nor can I engage in it anymore. All I say anymore when push comes to shove is "Life Fucking Sucks and it always has for everybody -- anyways, want a drink?"

I wish we all here at RI lived in a small village with plenty of good food, internet access, alcohol and weed. Oh and in the morning Gatorade, then whisky after that. Then a BBQ. Then a nap. Then a bonfire. You know and alas. . .
There is no me. There is no you. There is all. There is no you. There is no me. And that is all. A profound acceptance of an enormous pageantry. A haunting certainty that the unifying principle of this universe is love. -- Propagandhi
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Re: With a Bang

Postby justdrew » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:13 am

plenty of room for hope, the world may work as a quantum suicide machine :bigsmile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality
meaning we'll never seem to be on the world line that actually ends. imagine our neighborhood of parallel-world lines are passing through a time-sequence-evolution where the ongoing situation leads to a higher than normal probability for wipe-out. Any consciousnesses riding on those worlds which get a bad roll of the die and are wiped-out are transferred into a nearby world-line. Now as I said, IMAGINE (not know, imagine :wink: ) the world were in such a situation, where we're at a significantly elevated level of risk of wipe-out. Nearby world-lines would hit the wipe-out at slightly different times (they wouldn't be nearby if they weren't in nearly the same situation). What you would see is significantly increased numbers of consciousnesses having to jump into nearby "alien" world lines. Many people will just step into their "own" relative parallel lives, but if the winnowing is severe enough, world-lines will have to be subtly grafted together, causing a re-write situation, where "new history" has to be added into a world line. Since this grafting is done from a 5d external perspective, everyone's past instantly changes to accommodate the additions. The only way this would be noticeable, would be as a slight tickle (in whatever form per individual) from ones higher consciousness, which would be fully aware of what's going on. The 'sense' of things a subtly aware person might most likely detect, is an expanding richness of the past.

Which youtube constitutes near proof of :basicsmile

here's a great movie that kinda touches on these concepts... Probably hard to find, but well worth it...
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Re: With a Bang

Postby 82_28 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:40 am

Hayoleee fucking shit. Just listened to those Watts' recordings including the whole thing of the big long one you put up, Drew. If none of ya wanna spend the time listening, then don't. But I recommend going for it. Thanks for that, Drew!
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Re: With a Bang

Postby bardobailey » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:30 am

Yeah, justdrew. I like the idea of stepping lightly across reality lines. So maybe this world, which is about to shrug us off like unwanted fleas is really Bobby Ewing's Dream. I feel a song coming on:

We all live in Bobby Ewing's Dream, Bobby Ewing's Dream, Bobby Ewing's Dream

and when times become too tough
every one of us has had enough
grab a towel and hit the tiles

we all live in B.E. dream
etc.
etc.

Ok, then!
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Re: With a Bang

Postby bardobailey » Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:39 am

On the other hand...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ace-treaty

In case the multiverse lets us down, once we're all mad as hatters, we won't care or notice what's
going on around us.
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Re: With a Bang

Postby NeonLX » Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:15 pm

82_28 wrote:I wish we all here at RI lived in a small village with plenty of good food, internet access, alcohol and weed. Oh and in the morning Gatorade, then whisky after that. Then a BBQ. Then a nap. Then a bonfire. You know and alas. . .


No, *THAT* is what I want to experience again before I kick off. :)
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Re: With a Bang

Postby brainpanhandler » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:41 pm

undead wrote:Well, look at it this way. Judging by the average age of the people who post here, you will probably be dead before the really terrible Eraserhead-like situation arrives anyway. Try to feel privileged that you got to live during the climax of the human species. The planet's going to be fine, anyway, its just us that are going to be gone. Everything else will grow back eventually.

That is of course assuming that we as a species are able to hold it together long enough to get fried into extinction. So smoke em if you've got em.


I sometimes wonder if everyone else has this madness that whispers in their ear, "Let it burn. Burn it all".
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Postby Perelandra » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:13 pm

Most days I feel and see madness all around, yes.

I'm sorry you're freaking out. I did not intend to make light of it, I was serious about trees (or any nature you prefer) being helpful in moving through despair. Plant them for food or beauty, talk to them, or just observe.

Emergency preparedness is good for everyone on whatever level one is comfortable. Staying flexible physically and mentally is necessary for a healthy life in the best of times.

I had a strong deja vu feeling reading this thread, maybe we've had similar before, but it's a good one.
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Re: With a Bang

Postby bardobailey » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:39 pm

Thanks Perelandra. I have a cluster of five douglas fir in my back yard. It was six until last year when the beetles took one. They are the only thing standing between me and the Fukushima breeze from the west. I do gain consolation from them and protection.
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Re: With a Bang

Postby Luther Blissett » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:42 pm

The Rich and the Corporate remain in their hundred-year fever visions of Bolsheviks taking their stuff - JackRiddler
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Re: With a Bang

Postby bardobailey » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:01 pm

http://ncadac.globalchange.gov/

above released yesterday. If after reading you have decided to forego the Mars lottery and want to add your 2-cents, responses and comments are encouraged.
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Re: With a Bang

Postby Nordic » Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:44 am

bardobailey wrote:to Nordic: I have conceded?



Yes, if you've consciously made the decision not to have children.

I hate to bring up mass media in such a conversation but the movie "The Children of Men" was about precisely this. Metaphorically speaking.
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Re: With a Bang

Postby bardobailey » Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:21 am

Nordic. I saw that film. I think it was an adaptation of a P.D. James novel which I read a while before the movie. I think the premise there was that humans had become incapable of reproducing, but the world itself was in no implied immediate danger of extinction/calamitous destruction.

It's true I was a drama queen at 18. We were prepared by our fringed leather jacketed fu Manchu toting professor with a month's worth of reading and discussion on the whole issue of spaceship earth, industrial revolution, population overshoot, technological advances skewing nature's balance of life and death, the death impulse on a societal scale and whatever else we could dredge up as 1970's sociological wisdom. I was so impressed by Fuller as a person and a thinker that I read all of his available writings during that school term. I kept up with him and his writing and attended one his last public talks in Boulder at Mackie Auditorium a few months before his death. Spoke with him briefly after the lecture. What a guy.

I won't argue about having "conceded". I have never thought of the decision to remain childless that way, but, what point are you trying to make by emphasizing it? I helped raise step-children, I have dearly loved grandchildren. I didn't project myself into the future, but I lived through it without regret, doing my best. I just never, ever, thought thru my 60 years that I might live to see the end of things for us. I keep reading and searching out videos online on the wider topic, looking for things to modify Dr. Mcpherson's dire assessments, but what I'm finding in the most recent batch of stuff (from the last month or two) doesn't look good. The feedback mechanisms in several different climate related processes seem to be ampliflying their instability. Some of this amplification is not predicted and up to now is not included in the projected scenarios. The year of 2012 may be the beginning of crazy fluctuations in weather patterns that will just continue being unpredictable (for awhile) and more extreme, as the feedback amplification accelerates.

Pushing thru the market
Square
So many mothers sighing
News had just come over,
We had five years left to cry in

News guy wept and told us
Earth was really dying
Cried so much his face was wet
Then I knew he was not lying

I heard telephones, opera house, favourite melodies
I saw boys, toys electric irons and T.V.'s
My brain hurt like a warehouse
It had no room to spare
I had to cram so many things
To store everything in there
And all the fat-skinny people, and all the tall-short people
And all the nobody people, and all the somebody people
I never thought I'd need so many people

A girl my age went off her head
Hit some tiny children
If the black hadn't a-pulled her off, I think she would have killed them

A soldier with a broken arm, fixed his stare to the wheel of a Cadillac
A cop knelt and kissed the feet of a priest
And a queer threw up at the sight of that
I think I saw you in an ice-cream parlour
Drinking milk shakes cold and long
Smiling and waving and looking so fine
Don't think you knew you were in this song

And it was cold and it rained so I felt like an actor
And I thought of Ma and I wanted to get back there
Your face, your race, the way that you talk
I kiss you, you're beautiful, I want you to walk

We've got five years, stuck on my eyes
We've got five years, what a surprise
We've got five years, my brain hurts a lot
We've got five years, that's all we've got

Five years by David Bowe

Doesn't it just seem impossible? Maybe time did stop the moment we knew it was all over.
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Re: With a Bang

Postby bardobailey » Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:45 am

Another reminder from a great professor:

http://blogs.denverpost.com/opinion/201 ... ity/31901/

Dr. Bartlett has a convincing video on YouTube
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Re: With a Bang

Postby undead » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:25 pm

So I was reading about Aaron Swartz, the commendable hacker character who committed suicide / was suicided yesterday, and I discovered reddit for the first time. Also, I discovered the source of these fatuous, stupefying captioned images that occasionally get emailed to me and learned that I could create one myself. Considering that this has apparently become the preferred means of communication of the human species, I thought I would make one to share for this thread specifically. Feel free to pass it along to acquaintances, friends, and family who can only be reached by this medium. I tagged this with the "cute" category in hopes of reaching more people.

EDIT: Okay I can't save the image for some reason, presumably because they want to trap you in their web of brain-liquifying idiocy so you can click and go look at it here.
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