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Postby Freitag » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:21 pm

cptmarginal wrote:I highly recommend seeking it out and watching the incredible first 10 minutes. Oh wait, I just found it elsewhere:

http://vimeo.com/52520464


Whoa, yeah that was creepy.
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Postby semper occultus » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:26 pm

Police launch criminal investigation into MPs’ child sex ring

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Martin Hickman Thursday 17 January 2013
Scotland Yard tonight launched a full investigation into allegations that Conservative politicians were members of a paedophile ring which abused children in care the 1980s.

Operation Fernbridge will centre on the alleged historic sexual abuse of children at Elm Guest House, in Rocks Lane, a suburban street in Barnes, south-west London.

Residents of a nearby care home run by Richmond Council claim they were sexually assaulted at the property by a network of prominent individuals, including Tory MPs, who used their connections to escape justice.

The allegations are one of several lines of inquiry being considered by specialist
detectives at the country’s biggest force as a result of information supplied to them by Labour MP Tom Watson.

In a surprise intervention in the Commons in October, Mr Watson - who alleged widespread phone hacking at the News of the World before police began a new inquiry - urged Scotland Yard to re-open the evidence file on Peter Righton, a former child care consultant who was convicted of importing illegal homosexual pornography in 1992.

Saying that the file contained “clear intelligence of a widespread paedophile ring”, Mr Watson said at Prime Minister’s Questions: “One of its members boasts of a link to a senior aide of a former Prime Minister, who says he could smuggle indecent images of children from abroad.

“The leads were not followed up, but if the files still exist, I want to ensure that the Metropolitan Police secure the evidence, re-examine it, and investigate clear intelligence suggesting a powerful paedophile network linked to Parliament and No 10.”

In secret. five officers on the Met’s Child Abuse Investigation team began a scoping exercise, Operation Fairbank, to see if the MP’s claims merited further inquiry.

Working in secret at Empress State Building in Earl’s Court, London, they interviewed several adults who had contacted Mr Watson with information until December, when police confirmed the existence of the inquiry.

Tonight Scotland Yard confirmed the scoping exercise had reached sufficient seriousness that it passed “the threshold for a criminal investigation” and announced the creation of Operation Fernbridge.

Scotland Yard would not say how many officers are staffing Operation Fernbridge.

It is being run by the Specialist Crimes and Operations Directorate, which is known for tackling complex crime and which investigated phone hacking and other illicit newsgathering tactics that had previously escaped serious scrutiny by the police.

In a short statement, Scotland Yard said: “The Metropolitan Police Service have today, Thursday 17 January, launched an investigation, Operation Fernbridge, into historic allegations of child abuse in the early 1980s at the Elm Guest House, Rocks Lane, Barnes, London.

“The investigation will be led by the Child Abuse Investigation Command.”

The statement went on: “The allegations under Operation Fernbridge were initially assessed under Operation Fairbank which was information passed to police by MP Tom Watson. Operation Fernbridge reached the threshold for a criminal investigation.

“We will not be providing a running commentary on this inquiry.”

The police stressed that the allegations were historic and did not relate to the current occupants of the property, which has been under new ownership for some time.

A spokeswoman for the Met confirmed that Operation Fairbank would remain in existence and concentrate on other lines of inquiry provided by Mr Watson, who has been in regular contact with detectives. Those other lines of inquiry also involve politicians.

Last night Mr Watson said: “This new criminal investigation is welcome news. I am confident that the Operation Fairbank team are committed to a thorough investigation that leaves no stone left unturned. As they get nearer the truth it is vital they are given the time and space to conduct the investigation without interference.

“I urge any witnesses or victims to come forward if they think they can help with the inquiry. No matter what has happened in the past, now is the time for your voice to be heard.”

The Metropolitan Police asked anyone with information to call its hotline on 020 7161 0500.





hava007 wrote:Quick thought about Saville-Israel connection...last few weeks saw some police activity in Israel, raiding "homes for retarded children" (private ones), and some pimps who employ minors etc. Appears that some of it may be related to Saville investigations yet no official statements about it in Israel or anything resembling that. I am wondering if anyone has any take on how things can warm up, relating to the "israeli wing" of the pedo rings. I thank Semper for bringing me the link which explains a lot (about Saville being a "zionist supporter" with protection from the Jewish community and ISrael, but how long and how wide can that web of protection cover and stay in tact ? obviously Israel will not be able to attack Iran now, so what and who is covering up in the UK for ISrael's face ?
I see a connection between the Saville (and other recent sex scandals) and the collapse of the "attack Iran" coalition, maybe its just me, so last comment can be discarded from my query about "who is covering up for Israel, in the Saville case ?"



Bloody hell hava – that is a huge……
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….deep dark malodorous waters, as you well know & massively contaminated by plenty of sewage deposited by the traditional anti-Semitic elements – because of your background I guess its OK to touch on the subject of Jewish/Israel dimension to the UK network – ( I hope mods feel likewise ) & enthusiastically elict any views you feel happy sharing on its origin & character …. as the paedo-political-criminal nexus goes back along way , is massive in a highly ramified & insidiously embedded manner in a way joe public is only now beginning to dimly wake up to & compartmentalised by some very powerful bonds of blackmail & omerta….as one of the younger states to take its place in the family of nations Israel is an interesting control-study in its own right…

You are totally right – Savile was a hugely-connected nodal point in the paedo-criminal-political nexus – hence the ripple-effects >>>> Operation Fairbank – as a containment-vessel for political fall-out

Savile once described himself as “the most Jewish Catholic you will ever meet”.

The show-business/pop links are everything …..

Seems to me there is no doubt that alongside other activities that have been penetrated by the octopus over decades ( banking , gaming to boxing ) the popular entertainment/pop industry is a hidden-in-plain-sight branch or front for the highest levels of international organised criminal operations & control – infact not just a front but a largely self-sustaining vertically-integrated market in its own right & a tool for control, exploitation & profit on a huge scale from the drugs, prostitution, human traffic to porn, black-mail & the laundering of the proceeds of all of the above ( Bugsy Siegel, payola bribery scandals etc )

What’s special about it is its the milieu that provides the cheap sex & tawdry glamour that are the perfume sprayed around to mask the stench of the huge pool of stinking shit , it provides the fresh-meat & talent to be used for the networks activities , whilst the artificial & superficial glamour of celebrity dazzles the masses, distracts attention from the pimps, controllers & “soldiers” moving in the background as “managers”, impresarios & agents – it works perfectly……the Project Monarch disinfo op. is designed to divert from this underlying reality

There was a specific and very calculating method to the way the psycho Savile plugged himself so early on into the 60’s pop-culture – a man not only with no discernible talent but famously, as a radio DJ, having virtually no interest in the music that was played on his shows.

It’s now obvious but none the less important to see from Savile’s MO the amount , extent & duration of power & influence he derived from what were 2 blatant cover-stories or ( in the jargon ) “legends” – wacky clown pop DJ & dedicated charity campaigner

…now that he has departed what sort of figures abroad now possibly have moved to fill this vacancy…who’s got talent to perform such a role….that indefinable X factor one wonders….




Anyway this is just too massive to do a proper coherent reply – my thoughts on the possible / probable elements of how the “I-Factor” may have played a role in this morally corrupt farrago – historically up to the present :

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Robert Maxwell

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Lord Boothby – Conservative politician - linked to paedophile London gangsters the Kray Twins - amongst whose many titles happens to include President, Anglo-Israel Association, 1962–75

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Greville Janner, Baron Janner of Braunstone Labour politician - ( pictured with Uri Geller )

….Some nasty stuff about him….

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Peter Mandelson – a widely disliked man which may account for the amount of unsavoury but unsubstantiated rumours in terms of his private life although it appears factual that he was a “friend” of billionaire ephebophile Jeffrey Epstein & billionaires Oleg Deripaska & Nat Rothschild

Mandelson's oligarch friend 'was linked to assassination'

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Lord Levy – Blair’s bag-man & “Middle-East envoy”

“interesting” background / trajectory from pop music record label impresario to background political operator at the highest levels :

Lord Levy arrested in 'cash for honours' inquiry

of course Blair himself – the envoy of peace in his own mind & fan of the Lebanon & Gaza bombing operations

of the interent rumours about Blair ( not paedophilia - unlike those about his successor ) ( see also Fox:Werrity )

...the fine was £50 which was quite normal for the offence. The aim was NOT to destroy someone but to teach them propriety!

The individual importuned was a close protection officer who had him under surveilance I am given to understand.

He did not appear in Court and was allowed to use a KNOWN pseudonym, often a style in such cases, at the time.

The record is no longer in the books as I have checked in some detail!

He did NOT receive special treatment at the time as he was very junior.

I gather his conviction was never reported to the bar which was in fact a mandatory point of honour - who would expect honour from Charles Lynton!

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Despite having a Bush-groupie running the government Labour did have some problems pursuing the “correct line” on Middle East affairs : Robin Cook – Blair’s first Foreign Secretary opposed the Iraq Invasion – was removed - drops dead of sudden heart-attack to be replaced by Condi Rice groupie Jack Straw who – unfortunately - opposed any military action against Iran so….was removed in turn – this musical-chairs ofcourse ties in as much to US sycophancy/hi-jacking of foreign policy albeit indirectly back to Israel as geopolitical lynchpin …

this has been doing the rounds of the internet for yonks – connecting child-porn investigations by the police to the ME war situation.
Maybe a pile of crap…

In early 2003, British police began to close in on some top suspects in the Operation Ore investigation, including senior members of Blair’s government.

However, Blair issued a D-Notice, resulting in a gag order on the press from publishing any details of the investigation. Blair cited the impending war in Iraq as a reason for the D-Notice.


The Liam Fox / Adam Werrity / Atlantic Bridge operation – Fox was only Defence Secretary not Foreign Secretary but was trying to run his own private Middle-East foreign policy from his office/”charity” with his “friend” Werrity


ROBERT MAXWELL

Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch, originally from pre-war Czechoslovakia – one of the most mysterious figures in post-war Britain allegedly “British Intelligence changed his name several times, finally settling on Ian Robert Maxwell” – seems to have been some sort of Soviet/KGB asset ( dating from a military posting to Berlin after the war ) switching allegiance to Israel in the mid-80’s as the SU began to decline & he rediscovered his Jewish roots.

Author Gordon Thomas alleges he formed a criminal association with Semyon Mogilevich – leading sex-trafficker of women & children – one of the centres of which – probably co-incidentally - is in Cheb, Czech Repulic
( Captive market : The sexual slave traffic in children

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His favourite child was his daughter Ghislaine Maxwell – whom he seems to have regarded as a far worthier inheritor of his mantle than his 2 sons Kevin & Ian who took the fall for his massive financial frauds.

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Ghislaine ofcourse nicely links back to Jeffrey Epstein

Ghislaine Maxwell, glamorous daughter of the late, disgraced newspaper tycoon Robert Maxwell, is different from the other women in Epstein’s life in many ways but, most obviously, at 49, she is a lot older. She is also Epstein’s Girl Friday, his fixer – central to his operation. It was Ghislaine who, in 1998, recruited the 15-year-old Virginia Roberts to work as Epstein’s ‘masseuse’.

Ghislaine Maxwell and the girls she hired for paedophile's stable



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The Krays linked to Paedophile ring

The bottom line is that Kray was providing Boothby with underage boys to have sex with. He was also taking Boothby to perverted paedophile sex parties. In the following extract, John Pearson, the Kray’s Biographer gives us a little insight as to what Boothby got up to at these ‘parties’:

“As well as boys there were East End orgies and sex shows involving criminals. One account described Boothby lying under a glass-topped table while boys were made to defecate above him. Another described him sitting naked in a room with a number of criminals and boys around him, and “love beads” protruding from his anus”.

UK ESTABLISHMENT PAEDOPHILES


Boothby was an important figure in Anglo-Israeli relations :

Intimation of a possible transfer of the Palestinian Arab population to the neighbouring states can be seen in the early drafts of the Declaration. This was brought out as late as 1963 in Lord Boothby’s contribution to the BBC Third Programme’s tribute to Dr Weizmann. He stated that “the original Balfour Declaration made provision for the Arabs to be moved elsewhere, more or less”. (Jewish Chronicle, London, 3 January 1964, p. 7)

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In his book A Crackle of Thorns, London, 1956, pp. 19-20, he writes: “... the remote and undeveloped areas which lay to the east of the [Jordan] river... were intended to serve as a reserve of land for use in the resettlement of Arabs once the National Home for the Jews in Palestine ... became an accomplished fact. There was no intention at that stage of forming an independent Arab state.”)

Moreover, Lord Boothby, who proclaimed himself a life-long Zionist, was absolutely convinced that a massive immigration of Jews to their small historic homeland, “without great natural resources, was quite unrealistic unless accompanied by some resettlement of the Arab population.” (JC, 17 Jan. 1964, p. 7)

British Plans for the Resettlement of Palestinian Arabs


Funnily enough a current major donor to the Tory party is a former Kray criminal associate :

The Cameron crony and the Kray twins: Tory donor admits working as gangsters' doorman

there is also the huge diffuse & on-going abuse network(s) based around the show-business/pop end – as described by Guy Marsden - Savile’s nephew and here :

The Wheel of Fortune

By T Stokes on September 6, 2011

The DJ Allan ‘Fluff’ Freeman, brought a special blend of quick humour and colour to radio and televised pop music shows. He owned a large corner shop in Lea Bridge Rd. London, and this was the venue for many kinky parties where young boys from several care homes would be brought in by taxis for the night. Jimmy Saville, Jonathan King, Joe Meeks and on occasion Brian Epstein, all Jewish pop mogul homosexuals would party and ply drugs and alcohol to young boys. The local police chief was horrified to find Liberal party leader Jeremy Thorpe and other top politicians also attended these parties, and a boozy lunchtime in the policemen’s pub the Windmill, made sure the kinky parties quickly came to an end.

Jeremy Thorpe had a taste for young street boys and runaway teenagers were often brought to him, and at his trial for the attempted murder of male prostitute Norman Scott, he threatened to expose the perversions of many members of government.

Thorpe’s threats worked, he was found not guilty and he got off as it was said ‘Scott free’.

One of those who stood most to lose was Sir Edward Heath prime minister from 1970-74, who was known to visit the Jersey care home the Haute Garrene among others to take young boys on boating weekends on his yacht called ‘Morning Cloud’, or as bodyguards referred to it, ‘Morning Sickness’.

Heath was warned on 4 occasions by the head of the Metropolitan police not to loiter in London’s lavatories and not to try to pick up young boys. Nonetheless, he quickly fell prone blackmailers who insisted he dress up in a ridiculous Gestapo uniform in which he was photographed.

Under threat of exposure Heath was forced to enter Britain into the Common Market, now the European Union, under very unfavourable conditions. It is still a bone of contention among scholars how he became PM in front of the immensely popular and scholarly Enoch Powell who to all intents and purposes should have been Prime Minister.

Late one night on the Thames embankment by the House of Commons a British prime minister approached a rent boy, almost all the rent boys there were employed by the KGB or Mossad or occasionally CIA and sometimes they would sell info to all of the aforementioned to fund their drug habits.

The sordid details of the encounter on the Thames embankment quickly ended up on the London KGB station chief’s desk but this very brave man was also working for MI6 and he quickly passed the details onto British intelligence.

That same evening a British Prime Minister got the scolding of his life for such risky behaviour.

In fact perverted sexuality seems almost a prerequisite for success in British politics.

Thus Peter Mandelson’s French Hospital records are alleged to contain details of injuries caused by small furry animals used in homosexual sex acts; according to Cherie Blair he is one of the most profoundly corrupt figures in politics and coming from Tony Blair’s wife that is saying something.

Sir Anthony Blunt was a big instigator of these homosexual parties at the highest levels and many young boys who went missing over the years were murdered at his bequest. It was his way of tidying up and making sure potentially dangerous secrets were kept hidden.

T Stokes London
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Postby conniption » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:14 pm

re: Peter Righton

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Postby blankly » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:59 am

Thanks for the abuser resumé semper occultus, to which I would add 'don't forget those shoe horned into influential positions in the civil service'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/ ... rmoil.html

"The Sunday Telegraph has established that the civil servant behind Savile's appointment to take charge of Broadmoor, the high-security hospital, was subsequently prevented from working with children.
Allegations against Savile include sexual assaults of patients at Broadmoor, where he was initially an "honorary entertainments officer".
Brian McGinnis ran the mental health division of the Department of Health and Social Services in 1987, when plans were drawn up to appoint Savile to run a taskforce overseeing the hospital.
Health service sources said they understood Mr McGinnis was "instrumental" in the creation of the taskforce, which began work the following year.
He was under-secretary for mental health with responsibility for the high-security hospitals when Savile and other members of the group were recruited.
In a book about psychiatric care, Alan Franey, an NHS administrator who was appointed to the same taskforce describes being issued with the invitation in 1987 - during "an unusual meeting in the Athenanaeum Club in London with some officials who shall remain nameless."
He neglected to mention that Savile was present, although he confirmed it when contacted by The Sunday Telegraph, but refused to say whether Mr McGinnis was among the officials.
Mr McGinnis, now 74, was prevented from working with children by Croydon Council in 2005, when he was stopped from running a children's church group.
Three years earlier Bromley Council ended his involvement with services for children with learning difficulties.
The interventions followed police investigations into his conduct during volunteer visits to children's homes.
Contacted by The Sunday Telegraph, Mr McGinnis said that he was very closely involved in discussions about the running of Broadmoor but could not recall his part in Savile's appointment.
He said: "Ministers made the decisions obviously because that is what they are there for. I am not saying I wasn't involved but I simply don't remember a single thing about this appointment."
Mr McGinnis said he had never been to the Athenaeum and only recalled meeting Savile once at Stoke Mandeville Hospital.
With regard to his own conduct, the former civil servant said he had done "absolutely nothing wrong".
The Department of Health is holding an inquiry into how Savile came to be appointed to the taskforce and into the access he gained to patients in all three hospitals while Scotland Yard has launched a criminal investigation into allegations that Savile was part of a sex ring, with other members who remain alive.
The Met police is looking at 400 separate lines of inquiry and more than about 300 alleged victims."

This man ran a department with responsibility for the most vulnerable people in our society.
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Postby Hammer of Los » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:46 am

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He was under-secretary for mental health.


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Postby hava007 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:31 pm

….deep dark malodorous waters, as you well know & massively contaminated by plenty of sewage deposited by the traditional anti-Semitic elements – because of your background I guess its OK to touch on the subject of Jewish/Israel dimension to the UK network – ( I hope mods feel likewise ) & enthusiastically elict any views you feel happy sharing on its origin & character …. as the paedo-political-criminal nexus goes back along way , is massive in a highly ramified & insidiously embedded manner in a way joe public is only now beginning to dimly wake up to & compartmentalised by some very powerful bonds of blackmail & omerta….as one of the younger states to take its place in the family of nations Israel is an interesting control-study in its own right…

You are totally right – Savile was a hugely-connected nodal point in the paedo-criminal-political nexus – hence the ripple-effects >>>> Operation Fairbank – as a containment-vessel for political fall-out

Savile once described himself as “the most Jewish Catholic you will ever meet”.


This issue has kept me floating in the board, otherwise its not worth the agony of facing both antisemites here and gatekeepers from Israel et al. But this issue is important, not only to me as victim but its just so, as a matter of fact.

I suspect the trafficking from Israel, is directly continued from previous "exilic" period, with the state taking the place of the local polish/russian Prince as the profiteer and pimp. At least that appears to be the case in my family-community. The fact of "israel becoming" was supposed to put an end to that practice, but apparently it only made it worse.

In the past I PM'ed my recollections and "dots" to someone on this board who was exploring the Belgium-Jersy rings, Generally, the agency in Israel was Lakam/nuclear energy commission. But the community-family-money nexus is larger and more complex. Namely the cult/abuse nexus of where children were harvested.

I dont know masonic/satanic but something of that kind, with one leg in the USA and another in ISrael. I am not sure but think that Savile was fundraising for LAniado Hospital in Netanya, a city that had known several bizarre allegations of child trafficking and murders around those allegations (the recent case is "little Rose", the half french half Israeli little girl who was found, allegedly, drowned in a suitcase in the Yarkon river by her father who is also her grandfather...but there were a few more). I have a lot of "dots" but that's of no consequence. I would start with the published facts that seem incriminating. I am just briefly googling now and I see that "israel" was removed from Jimmy Savile wiki page...:), not a very promising situation for truth...but then it proves there's hysteria around that.
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Postby Byrne » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:02 pm

An article by DJ Greg Wilson examining the Jimmy Savile 'business'....

http://www.gregwilson.co.uk/2012/11/jim ... d-mirrors/
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Postby semper occultus » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:09 pm

hava007 wrote:Generally, the agency in Israel was Lakam/nuclear energy commission. But the community-family-money nexus is larger and more complex. Namely the cult/abuse nexus of where children were harvested.


OK that's sort of interesting because Robert Maxwell was involved in the Mossad operation against Mordechai Vanunu

In his book The Samson Option: Israel's Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy, Hersh revealed that Nicholas Davies, the foreign editor of the Daily Mirror, had tipped off the Israeli Embassy in London about whistle-blower Mordechai Vanunu. Vanunu had given information about Israel's nuclear weapons program first to the Sunday Times and later to the Sunday Mirror. At the time, the Sunday Mirror and its sibling newspaper, the Daily Mirror were owned by media magnate Robert Maxwell who was thought to have had extensive contacts with Israel's intelligence services. According to Hersh, Davies had also worked for the Mossad. Vanunu was later lured by Mossad from London to Rome, kidnapped, returned to Israel, and sentenced to 18 years in jail. Davies and Maxwell published an anti-Vanunu story as part of a disinformation campaign on behalf of the Israeli government.
Seymour Hersh - Mordechai Vanunu and Robert Maxwell


....do you think Vanunu is so dangerous because he knows about more than just the nuclear angle.....?

To this day, even though Vanunu has served his time and has not had access to classified information in more than 18 years, Israel contends he is still a risk.

Though he is no longer in prison, Vanunu, now 50, is hardly a free man. The Israeli government has imposed a harsh set of restrictions that prohibit him from leaving the country or talking to foreigners. According to the Jerusalem Post, Vanunu must notify police of any change in address or intention to spend a night outside his fixed address, and obtain permission to come within 500 meters of air- and seaports, land crossings, or borders, including the Green Line. He may not enter a foreign embassy or consulate without prior permission and cannot maintain relations or exchange ideas with foreigners or participate in Internet chats.

http://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/eij/article/mordechai_vanunu_arrested_again/
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Postby Ben D » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:30 am

BBC screen Jimmy Savile parody on children's TV show The Tweenies, sparking outrage among parents

20 Jan 2013 13:00

THE episode of the Tweenies aired this morning saw the beloved children's characters dress up and present a parody episode of Top of the Pops - the show fronted by evil paedophile Jimmy Savile.
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Postby hava007 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:46 am

Well, Semper, my take on the vanunu scam has been rejected on this board :), i have little doubt the man was a dupe and victim of extensive MK shit. This makes the UK a co-conspirator (probably the "coalition" we know from later times...same same). So, that is does not make Israel the main culprit, but it does imply serious malfunctioning of my government in its main function as protector of the people. Rather it makes it a trafficker. WHich i thought is bad enough, but others here seem to think or say that plays into stormfrontish agenda. Of course when its not you that's being trafficked by your government, its easy to say. I think that the Vanunu affair is a onion that hasnet yet had its last peel, and in fact keeping the lie of the official version is a very stormfrontish agenda. (the christian convert who is mistreated by the evil jewish state).

Generally, I assume Jews have been using this method - selling their own kids/people - as "survival kit" for ages, and Israel as I said, continues and doing it more, this time the excuses vary, namely, "nuclear deterrence" or " national interests" vis a vis "the super powers" and so forth. Now there is no end to "national security" and so its always a good excuse for atrocities.

So, the clients are "the super powers" VIP classes, and some of the merchandise is Jewish/Israeli dupes/sex toys /guinea pigs...etc.

I think its in our joint interest to eradicate the disease, not to shift blame and run the hot potato game. I say you weed out your pervs and the Jews/Israelis should not protect those who traffic them. But I am too idealistic. In terms of political gains, its too tempting to view Vanunu as a " whistle blower". Everyone gets their share. Except the truth.That's much more convenient than actually getting into the details of this case and the exposing the "intel methods" (namely, trafficking, torture, sexual perversion/extortion, and what not). You will hear of course that this affair prevented a bloody war with Syria or who knows who, and so that some people "paid a price". But of course, looking back, one really wonders ....was it about deterrence or was it actually about something else ? and if this was a "necessary evil", how come the victims are still not free or redeemed ? so then probably the "broken eggs" far outweigh the alleged omellette...

The Lakam angle, to me, is residual. It can be any other agency, the fact is that government traffics its own people, children, and abandons them knowingly to the worst atrocities and cruelty imaginable.
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Postby Project Willow » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:48 pm

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/01/23/uk-britain-bbc-arrest-idUKBRE90M00720130123

Rape charge against Stuart Hall deepens BBC scandal

(Reuters) - A veteran British TV presenter was charged with rape and 14 counts of indecent assault on underage girls, police said on Tuesday, deepening concerns about sex abuse by top BBC personalities decades ago.

Stuart Hall, 83, best known for hosting "It's a Knockout" in the 1970s and 1980s, was questioned after late broadcaster Jimmy Savile was exposed last year as a serial child sex abuser, prompting a flurry of further sex crime allegations.

Hall, who was still appearing regularly on BBC radio until recently, had already been charged with three counts of indecent assault, in December. He denied all charges.
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Postby conniption » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:49 am

Are blogs allowed ?

idk...sometimes you get a feel for a blog, and I've been following The Outlaw Blog for a while, and it's not like I agree 100% on his choice of topics, but for the most part I get the feeling he's an okay guy...doing his best like the rest of us.

A Trigger Warning is issued for what follows, although you'd think by now anything Savile, is triggering.

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Posted by Outlaw on January 27, 2013

Posted in: Current. Tagged: Abuse, BBC, Children, Devil, Establishment, Maida Vale., Murder, Ritualistic, Satanic, Savile, Stoke Mandeville. 19 comments

The Mainstream Media are remarkably coy with regard to the existence of Satanic and Ritualistic Abuse. The establishment are working around the clock to discredit, ignore and bury any story that challenges their attempts to keep it out of the mainstream.

Any connection between Jimmy Savile, the BBC and the Royal and political power structure in this country is rapidly being discredited and hurriedly erased in every possible way.

But some stories are emerging.

If anybody, is in any doubt that the establishment, working hand in glove with the Mainstream Media, are going to great lengths to make sure that any and all stories are seen to be entirely without foundation, then I suggest you stop reading now.

What is recorded below, is no doubt going to be subject to the same treatment. Denial, accusations of being a complete fabrication and belonging in the realms of fantasy and worthy only of Ridicule is the very least that I expect to receive. It will only serve to reinforce my belief that the powers that be, have reached a point when even they realise that the truth is emerging. Ordinary people are becoming aware of the entirely evil and utterly corrupt and self-serving system of rule that exists in this country, and are learning daily about the lengths that they they will go, in order to cling onto their increasingly fragile hold over the people.

I have not changed anything in the following account.

It stands alone and for all to see.

I have given it no embellishment, no spin and no sensationalist headlines…

Her story can be found at her blog, which I recommend to anyone who is in search of the truth…..


Daffodil Rites

“I’m not sure when I met him for the first time. I remember a man who I think was Savile sticking his tongue in my mouth when I was a toddler and a group of men in suits laughed about it. After that I taken to various places by various rings and was introduced to someone who definitely was Savile and was told not to let on I had met him before. I cant remember him being part of anything definitely ritualistic until after we moved out to the country when I was four but I have a strong sense of ritualised abuse becoming very normal to me very early. ‘I’ wasn’t hurt much during rituals before we moved, I was told they were ‘just pretend’ and was sometimes protected, I was being kept for something or someone who wanted my hymen intact and ‘fresh’ i.e. hadn’t mastered my own disassociation skills. After the move, the people who told me that ‘it was all pretend’ and ‘your not bad, they are’ were gone, except for the odd phone call.

He loved his Satanic birthday/Halloween parties. I’m not in a place to provide much in the way of gruesome details, lots of rape, sexual torture and humiliation building up to sacrifice. He sometimes talked about a girl who was ‘before’ me. One time he took me somewhere, I think it was a shed or a garage, possibly in or near the Scottish glen where I lived with a bloke I often saw him with. It might of been the same guy who he introduced as his ‘producer’ who Savile like to watch rape me sometimes. I met the before me girl he had told me about her and I remember feeling excited about being introduced. I think I’d been getting the impression that I would never live up to her. I got to chat to her for a bit I think she was pubescent aged but she talked like she was much older. She had long hair.

They took turns at her for hours and sometimes raped her together getting more and more violent then killed her. He took my hand and made me approach the body, he crouched down next to it. The floor was concrete the blood looked almost black in places. He said something, I don’t know what, I’d been told possibly by the people who said it was all pretend, not to listen to any of the crap that was spouted.

There was days being driven around Leeds or London, taken to hotels, posh houses, the hospitals. He got off on tormenting really ill/handicapped people who were locked up, restrained or couldn’t move properly. Starting off in his usual over friendly creepy, cheeky manner, then shouting louder and getting physical, sometimes rape it disgusted me through and through. There was long walks along quiet hospital corridors at night, sometimes to the morgue.

There was the ritualised rape in the basements of hospitals with his friends/associates described in those articles in the Sunday Express. I think those sessions were used to test out subjects for more extreme stuff. There was at least one murder at Broadmoor, someone had there arms wrapped around me while a young woman was raped, tortured beaten to death in front of a group of about seven or so people, there was a woman watching too I hadn’t seen many women at this stuff and I was surprised.

There were occasions when we would go to Stoke Mandeville and tell me to wait in the car, I couldn’t come in. I remember feeling quite hurt and ashamed when I was younger than I wasn’t good enough to go in but when I got older I was glad to be left alone in the car. I was often told or forced to hide when we were traveling places, cars, buses, boats sometimes to.

He didn’t like it when I didn’t think it was a treat to go on a plane.

There was plenty of occasions when I would be taken in through the front door to places, especially the BBC. Stuff happened at Maida Vale studios too involving lots of famous faces and voices that was deeply horrific and I may remember if the time is ever right. I hated seeing the way everyone had huge smiles for him and told me I was a very lucky little girl. I was introduced to lots of the high profile people who are known to have associated with him at lunches, charity gigs and stuff, sometimes he would offer me to them.

He always seemed to have a lot of power over young celebs, he would talk to them and they would bow there heads, look serious and nod. Sometimes I would ask people for help, like his secretary, staff at hospitals and I don’t seem to be up for remembering anyone else I asked.

I phoned Childline once, maybe twice. It was horrible and made me feel totally hopeless knowing that lots of the money he gave to charity came from selling me and others.

He would laugh at me when I said he was going to jail or that someone was going to stop him. He talked almost none stop sometimes but I cant remember a bloody word he said now and was probably none the wiser then either.

There was death parties out in Jersey and various other places too. I would be in the van as he moved kids about, bodies too ‘oh no no no don’t you look at that’ wrapped body shaped bundles in the back. I was always very split, and split everyone else to.

There was the Jimmy Savile who sat me on his lap, introduced me to rich and famous people at posh dos and loved me and there was the white haired man who was an evil Satanist.

For a lot of the time during my teens anything I can vaguely recognise as ‘me’ was deeply buried. But there’s his hand on the curve of my slightly swollen belly when I am about eleven or twelve and the words ‘Jimmy’s baby’. At some point something woke up in me, or us rather and he couldn’t approach me alone unless I was drugged or something because I would go for him and beat him.

I could never finish him though, maybe because I was scared, maybe because a bit of me still believed that it wasn’t his fault and he loved me really. There’s the times when I came round during rape and realised it had been happening my whole life, I saw how much his body had aged and how I wasn’t a little girl any more. But I was.

He was present and took part in abuse in my twenties, he phoned me when my baby son was abused (I got to keep this one).

I’ve no idea what he said, he sounded old, almost apologetic. I was glad the sound of his voice meant nothing. I suspect I’m not supposed to still be here.”
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Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Postby Hammer of Los » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:28 am

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Stuart Hall's been charged?

It's a knockout.

Jeux sans frontiers.

If looks could kill they probably will.

I wonder what happened to that goat?

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Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Postby Col. Quisp » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:54 pm

Conniption: That blog post reads like fiction to me.
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