FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby justdrew » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:06 pm

8bitagent wrote:y'all still need to see this. One of the most striking and best documentaries I've seen in some time:

Resurrect Dead


I just saw that, didn't think I'd be too interested, since I'd followed the story since 99? or very early 2000s, not too closely, but it was an interesting strategy for getting a message out. So I put it off til now, but it was indeed worth seeing, and amazing detective work, it's incredible they finally found the guy.

but in the end... it's a poor theory. Why would you need to get the exact same molecules? How could you anyway? The human body is a continuous flow of matter and energy. It would be like trying to rebuild a whirlpool by collecting the water that had been whirled. The information of past configurations is not accessible. The Toynbee idea is really an early run at the idea that someday advanced beings will recreate us in their exact universe simulators.

here's an interesting take on this:
http://themigrantmind.blogspot.com/2009/02/multiverseturing-resurrectioneternal.html
doesn't the guy in the little profile pic look just like the dude in the documentary who did the presentation at the ham radio conference on mental radio?

but the rather sad thing is that The Tiler fixated on a single concept and never, as far as we can know, has been exposed to ideas that would probably have brought him some peace and consolation with things and allowed him to move out from his paranoid hateful elements. Maybe it'll yet come. but even in his error, his efforts have a beauty.

I wonder if someone's ever left a dvd or vhs of the doc on his porch.
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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby DrEvil » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:57 pm

Phase IV, directed by Saul Bass is worth a look.

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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:38 pm

streeb wrote:What did you make of the ending, Jack?


You?

Spoiler:She's in for some tough times in normal land. And that's if she doesn't start killing people because she can't tell who is a threat, and also assuming she isn't blamed for the killings at the center. Except, I suppose she can tell who is a threat, thanks to the telepathy. But conventional communication will be tough and she may soon be locked up elsewhere.

As for the "climactic" confrontation with Dr. Barry, I was pleased it was short and didn't have any endless Hollywood false tension building. Either he catches her by surprise or she kills him right away without much drama.


Was there something I missed in the last tableau, perhaps?
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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby OpLan » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:15 am

Dead Mans Shoes


Vengeance story.Grim.

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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:40 am

JackRiddler wrote:
streeb wrote:What did you make of the ending, Jack?


You?

Spoiler:She's in for some tough times in normal land. And that's if she doesn't start killing people because she can't tell who is a threat, and also assuming she isn't blamed for the killings at the center. Except, I suppose she can tell who is a threat, thanks to the telepathy. But conventional communication will be tough and she may soon be locked up elsewhere.

As for the "climactic" confrontation with Dr. Barry, I was pleased it was short and didn't have any endless Hollywood false tension building. Either he catches her by surprise or she kills him right away without much drama.


Was there something I missed in the last tableau, perhaps?



Spoiler:I liked the random funky 80's pop culture kitch ending, cassette tape boom box and all.

But wait, someone said there was TWO versions of this movie?
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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby 8bitagent » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:56 am

So cant wait to see this documentary

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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby streeb » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:22 am

Was there something I missed in the last tableau, perhaps?


I don't think so. Spoiler:My question really pertained to the climactic confrontation with Barry, which divided opinion here (where the film was made, and where it received an unprecedented two week run at a local rep theatre -- really, that's amazing for Vancouver). I gather that the script originally called for something bigger and a lot more effects-driven, involving psychic entities doing battle in the sky (or something). Creatures were designed, test shots were done, and I guess his collaborators urged P. Cosmatos to stick with it, but he had personal reasons for ending the film on such an abrupt and perverse punchline. After reading about that I admired the film even more.
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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby streeb » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:37 am

Vancouver '77, hard to find, but worth looking for:

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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby conniption » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:09 am

The Man Who Laughs



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The Man Who Laughs (1928 film)

The Man Who Laughs (1928) is an American silent film directed by the German Expressionist filmmaker Paul Leni. The film is an adaptation of Victor Hugo's novel of the same name and stars Conrad Veidt as Gwynplaine and Mary Philbin as the blind Dea. The film is known for the grim carnival freak-like grin on the character Gwynplaine's face, which often leads it to be classified as a horror film.[1] Film critic Roger Ebert stated, "The Man Who Laughs is a melodrama, at times even a swashbuckler, but so steeped in Expressionist gloom that it plays like a horror film."[2]


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Batman: The Man Who Laughs

Batman: The Man Who Laughs is a one-shot prestige format comic book by Ed Brubaker and Doug Mahnke, released in February 2005, and intended as a successor to Batman: Year One. [1]

It tells the story of Batman's first encounter with the Joker in post-Crisis continuity. The plot is based on the Joker's original introduction in Batman #1 (1940). The story "Images" in Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #50 (September 1993), is another, alternate take on the same story.

The title is a reference to the movie The Man Who Laughs, whose star, Conrad Veidt, was an inspiration for The Joker.
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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:27 am

Is that the actual original movie (Man Who Laughs) or a remastered version? Because the Batman music is playing over the credits.
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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby justdrew » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:26 pm

JackRiddler wrote:Is that the actual original movie (Man Who Laughs) or a remastered version? Because the Batman music is playing over the credits.


silent movies often have replacement music as the original score is sometimes lost or people think the original sounds to rinky-tink. Heck, IIRC, sometimes a piano player would have to improve the whole score live.

good fine conniption, I had no idea that movie had been unearthed and uploaded :thumbsup
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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:38 pm

justdrew wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:Is that the actual original movie (Man Who Laughs) or a remastered version? Because the Batman music is playing over the credits.


silent movies often have replacement music as the original score is sometimes lost or people think the original sounds to rinky-tink. Heck, IIRC, sometimes a piano player would have to improve the whole score live.

good fine conniption, I had no idea that movie had been unearthed and uploaded :thumbsup


Sure, and the best way to see them still is with a live orchestra (a rarity found only in countries with subsidized cultural sectors). But if it's available, I'd always prefer whatever the original score was. (Giorgio Moroder's Metropolis notwithstanding - we can view that as a new work, and now an endangered one. Crazy what copyright law will allow putative owners to do, many decades after the deaths of a work's creators.)
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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby justdrew » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:46 am

in case anyone hasn't heard of this... it's Must See :thumbsup


(even though the trailer is narrated by the "in a world...." voice :wink: )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_%28film%29
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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby Project Willow » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:52 am

It was okay, what I really appreciated about it was that it introduced me, or rather made the connection for me, between that iconic moon image and the work of Georges Méliès.
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Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: films of a certain quality

Postby justdrew » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:05 am

Project Willow wrote:It was okay, what I really appreciated about it was that it introduced me, or rather made the connection for me, between that iconic moon image and the work of Georges Méliès.


well, it had a lot of personal resonance for me, and came at just the right moment.

I still don't know who did the movie with the guy climbing up a building and ending up hanging off a clock, any ideas?

here's one I just found out about...
Aelita - Queen of Mars (First Russian Soviet Science-Fiction Film 1924)

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