What is the word on Whitley Strieber?

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Postby Avalon » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:54 am

"However, why did he assume it was hair?"<br><br>He hadn't been fishing, and it was too thin to be Piglet's muffler?<br><br>And the context was right for hair? Or at least righter than any other possibilities?<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Thanks for the input Mr. Chalker and everyone

Postby Seventhson » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:16 am

I guess the real question I end up with oiver and over again is how much credibility to give to any of this.<br><br>Is it possible that our government has been engaged in advancxed dna cloning experiments that could lead to this? If these are human dna then the "perpetrator" was seemingly human.<br><br>And to what end was the "assault"? The extraction of dna or semen.<br><br>I guess I'll need to read the book for answers to all that -- but the nagging question, like Mulder in the X Files -- is this some kind of government or secret government controlled operation? From Strieber's experiences to the relatively recent "hag" assault -- the one described in your book, I imagine.<br><br>I am just putting the elements together in this puzzle and so probably need reminding of things that just don't stick in my soggy aging brain --- or teaching about those things I just haven't been able to absorb yet even though I have read them.<br><br>Are we being harvested? For good or for evil, if we are? Are the "visitors" in collusion with the BFEE? Could Streiber be?<br><br>God - I have no idea what the answerrs are to any of these questions and I am not even sure what the right questions are. But the subject, like Jung's synchronicities, is fascinating and -- if for no other reason than that some people believe they have experienced them (even if Strieber is making his story up as he goes along -- AND I do wish Mr. Chalker would weigh in on THAT question) - the study of the phenomenon of the reporting of such incidents as "archetypal" or manifestations of the symbology and construct of the unconscious - is worthy of pursuit.<br><br><br>I never imagined that we would get the author of "Hair of the Alien" here discussing his findings when I posted my question about Streiber - and so I am very grateful for your response, Mr. Chalker, and glad I posited the inquiry generally so that others here were roused to find you and bring you here.<br><br>This is an incredible blogsite and board and it has the potential over time to reach millions and to do a lot of good because jeff Wells is a good soul whose concern is for humanity. With no guile or deceit whatsoever that I can detect.<br><br>If there are in fact hybrids and genetically altered beings harvesting our semen and eggs (or simply destroying them) for whatever prupose --- and if this may be an integral part of the BFEE fascist machinery that grew out of the Holcoaust experiments in Auschwitz and Dachau or wherever --- AND it might be related to the Ritual Abuse "phenomena" by the same perpetrators --- then I think it is critical to keep open minds and keep scrutinizing the evidence and experiences with care.<br>and maybe a boatload of scepticism to maintain our objectivity.<br><br>Fascinating stuff.<br><br>How will I ever sleep? <br><br>(I know! Exhaustion!)<br><br>G'Night!<br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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reply to dreamsend, end of world

Postby electric love » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:34 am

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Re: reply to dreamsend, end of world

Postby Dreams End » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:39 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> "However, why did he assume it was hair?"<br><br>He hadn't been fishing, and it was too thin to be Piglet's muffler?<br><br>And the context was right for hair? Or at least righter than any other possibilities?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I dunno....dental floss? <p></p><i></i>
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The aliens saving us

Postby sparkinthedark » Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:24 am

I have also thought about Whitley for years. I am reading "The Key" right now and find it fascinating and full of crap at the same time and in sequence. I've started it several times and given up each time but I'm back at it now. In this book the visitor says we can only save ourselves if we really WANT it. They can't save us from extinction. We have to change ourselves from the inside with meditation and hard work, then make the change. I feel that Strieber is trying to wake us up to the danger. MAybe he is crazy, but I don't think so. I think he has been through things we can only imagine and because of his he doesn't suffer fools. I'll keep reading and guessing, but I think he has a lot to teach. <p></p><i></i>
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Excerpt from Strieber's awesome/exasperating article 8-05

Postby Seventhson » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:33 am

For those who want a little taste of the article. The connections alleged between Guy Bannister and another suspect of Garrison's in the JFK assassination makes the Lervenda book look pretty interesting.<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><br>Had Kennedy lived, this world would almost certainly be a very different place. Kennedy was about to withdraw from Vietnam. He was interested in bringing the CIA to an end. He sought to lead us to look up, to ascend into space, to take our place among the stars. Since his death, there has been no visionary president. In fact, we have endured a long succession of mediocrities, madmen, hypocrites and egotists, as worthless a lot of human rubbish as has been served up to the leadership of a great nation since the later emperors floundered through the palaces of Rome. <br><br>We have come, thus, to where we are now: at the edge of a horrendous, uncontrollable environmental catastrophe, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>led by the grandson of a Nazi</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> who has replace those monstrous ideals of population control by war and murder with a religious extremism that will turn out to amount to the same thing. <br><br>We stand, all of us, upon the gallows with the noose about our necks. And, unseen, strange things happen in the environment, inexplicable things, that suggest that somebody with greater scientific knowledge is working subtly to bring the energies of nature to bear against us even as forces within our own society—forces also instigated by them and under their control—conspire to render us helpless in the face of the “natural” disaster that is on the way. The environment is collapsing much faster than any scientist, in his worst nightmares, imagined that it would just a few years ago. Too much is going wrong at once. The north polar cap is melting at a completely unprecedented rate. The Gulf Stream is about to become detached from its essential heat pump, with unknown consequences. As this is being written, a million people are evacuating the coast of China as a typhoon of extraordinary power races ashore. Summer melt in Greenland is appalling. Fires are burning in drought-ridden Portugal, Spain and North Africa even as India endures a monsoon gushing rain beyond imagining. New York has seen its hottest summer ever by a fantastic and frightening 5.5 degrees, and there is a massive, inexplicable swarming of fish, crabs and other marine life off the Gulf coast of Florida. <br><br>A few days ago, shrimp, crab, grouper, snapper, red fish and flounder, sea robins, needlefish and eels were observed moving southward in a column in eighteen inches of water off the coast at Englewood, Florida. This is not a known or understood phenomenon, and is in need of explanation, but it will not be explained, it will be ignored and forgotten as was the sudden blast of freezing cold water that appeared on beaches from New Jersey to central Florida two summers ago, when a sudden, fortunately temporary, weakening of the Gulf Stream enabled cold northern waters to penetrate halfway to the equator. The worst, and strangest, imbalance is taking place off the coast of the US Pacific Northwest, where water temperatures have risen so high and so fast that plankton has died back, breaking the food chain at is foundation and leading to vast starvation of life across the whole area. The odd thing is that this ocean heating has no obvious cause. It is not a direct effect of wind borne heat. It is not coming from warmer waters to the south. In fact, south of the heated area, the waters are cooler. It has, however, caused the marine cloud layer that normally keeps the Pacific Northwest cool to disappear, meaning that areas used to cool, damp and cloudy summers are suddenly being exposed to continental heat, the cities are breaking heat and drought records, and the forest is turning into a deadly tinderbox. If fire breaks out in this dense, isolated and ancient forest, thickly packed with brush and trees, it will be among the most horrendous forest fires seen in this era of great fires. <br><br>Meanwhile, the sun remains stubbornly active long after the solar minimum should have begun, and the earth’s magnetic field proceeds into the early stages of pole shift, a process that will bring it into chaos over the next few hundred years, with unknown consequences. <br>Despite all this and more, the US administration conducts itself as if nothing was happening, and fails to provide the leadership that could even now at least reduce the manmade aspects of the disaster and perhaps buy us a little time. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Instead, it has conducted a spectacularly ineffectual war against terrorism, and perhaps used aspects of terror attacks or even let them happen, to distract the public and keep us fearful and eager to support its authority, in exactly the same way the unpopular leader Adolf Hitler did when he engineered the burning of the German parliament, the Reichstag</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Streiber

Postby robertdreed » Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:29 am

a track-back to the Whitley Streiber entry on Professor Pan's blog-- <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.charm.net/~profpan/2005/08/whitley-striebers-flip-flop.html">www.charm.net/~profpan/20...-flop.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Streiber

Postby Dreams End » Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:48 am

Yeah, Pan....he mentioned something about all the technology in his body in the essay under discussion here. Hey, it's nice, but mind showing us the xrays? There is actually a surgeon who is pulling these things out of people. His results are interesting, though I don't think he's gotten anything conclusive enough to even get the mainstream interested at all. <br><br>Anyway, as to Levenda's book...somewhere on here I had a kind of review. It's an interesting book though his writing style is kinda hard to follow. He goes off on tangents and he has the habit of introducing a huge number of people right off the bat, some of whom don't figure in the narrative till later in the chapter and you've forgotten who they are! <br><br>And, despite appearing in Strieber's essay, Levenda has no interpretation yet of why all these things are going on. (Maybe he will in later volumes). Right now, he suggests there are forces out there people are messing with and maybe not even understanding and also that the level of coincidence goes even beyond a chain of "cause and effect". These coincidences, in his view, are more like things happening at different levels.<br><br>My personal favorite such "coincidence" he points out was where RFK, before the speech in which he's shot by probably Manchurian Candidate, Sirhan Sirhan, dines with and is brought to the speech by....the director of the movie, Manchurian Candidate.<br><br>He's not suggesting that this director was involved in the plot, but he's not suggesting it has no meaning either.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: night hags, bed bugs, & rogue DNA

Postby hanshan » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:10 pm

<br><br>Dreams End:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>they aren't hags, I guess, and the only thing I know for sure is that I, who am perfectly willing to be so visited by such entities whom I promise not to bite unless they like that sort of thing...alas, never receive such visits.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Perhaps you're just getting a tad too<br> comfortable in your bourgeois life.<br>Mix it up a little w/a mistress <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>( hope <br>your wife doesn't read this)</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, or an xtreme<br>sport.<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.cyodine.com/succubus/SuccubusImage.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>And as for a missing gene supplying HIV immunity? News to me. Anyone else ever heard of this?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Don't know aobut the missing gene theory. There is some<br>interesting research & hypothesizing going on<br>w/in the HIV research community.e.g.:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050307/full/050307-15.html" target="top"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Did Black Death boost HIV immunity in Europe?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <br> <br>from the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Nature</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> mag website; need a subscription <br>to access the article<br><br>Here's the same research w/ an accessible script:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.bioedonline.org/news/news.cfm?art=1635" target="top"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Did Black Death boost HIV immunity in Europe?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Experts argue over whether smallpox or plague should take the credit.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Devastating epidemics that swept Europe during the Middle Ages seem to have had an unexpected benefit - leaving 10% of today's Europeans resistant to HIV infection.<br><br>But epidemics of which disease? Researchers claimed this week that plague helped boost our immunity to HIV, but rival teams are arguing that the credit should go to smallpox.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>PBS weighs in:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/4/l_104_05.html" target="top"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Double Immunity </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <br><br> <br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Dr. Stephen O'Brien's work with HIV led to a discovery that could one day help scientists treat or prevent HIV infection: People from some European populations carry a genetic mutation that prevents HIV from entering their white blood cells. O'Brien hypothesizes that this mutation, dating back 700 years, may have been a selective advantage during the bubonic plague, as it is today, with the onslaught of HIV. From Evolution: "Evolutionary Arms Race."<br></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>They are this advanced but can't synthesize the DNA they need? In fact, the "hardware" explanation for alien experiences is not satisfying to me for many such reasons. For example, why does he need to suck the "robot alien's" breast? Oh well.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Indeed. Robot breast? Dunno. Metal fetish?<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I worry about all the various "armaggedon" warnings that keep popping up. I think John Mack may have been the first to notice this aspect of abduction experiences. This, of course, before he was run over by a car in England.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Touché.Check Mate<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Think about it, if there is no hope except, perhaps, for alien intervention, might as well give up and just ride out the storm. Although I see the powers that be as having a very clear motive for such, I'm left confused as to why all the strange techniques of going about it.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Righto. Well, you could subscribe to the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>many alien races</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> theory work ing at cross purposes,or, you tear out a page of multi-dimensional weirdness & enjoy the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>shew</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.<br>As for there being no hope? Hope springs eternal, lad.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/46/71/414016-music-resized200.JPG" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Haven't read the book - the commentary is amusing, tho.<br><br><br>.... <p></p><i></i>
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avalon: maudlin and overwrought

Postby nashvillebrook » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:31 pm

are my two BIG picks on WS. i have trouble listening to him. <br><br>that said, i kinda see him as an "everyman." he's just sort of a guy that a bunch of stuff happened to and he lets his emotions run away with him b/c he thinks that creates drama and tension, which he doesn't understand, don't work the same way in "performance" than they do in writing. <br><br>this build pathos for him with one hand while taking it away with the other. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=nashvillebrook>nashvillebrook</A> at: 8/24/05 11:44 am<br></i>
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Everyman

Postby Avalon » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:59 pm

Yeah, that Everyman quality is a big part of him too. And you can't take away the fact that he's taken this scary lemon and made lemonade. He puts a lot of effort into trying to deal with this and make sense of it, even if we don't all feel he does a particularly good job. Kind of reminds me of the Dreyfus character in the Close Encounters movie.<br><br>There's always a balance with talking about the horrible things going on in this world, and it's really hard to achieve. It's the tipping point between consciousness-raising and educating about big changes that are needed in attitude and action on one hand, and on the other hand the chance that you scare people into paralysis or have them blow you off because their cognitive dissonance (or their perceived self-interest) kicks in.<br><br>I realized I had his 1995 book Breakthrough in a pile, and thumbed through it last night. I was particularly taken by what Whitley's brother said to him (p.128 in the hardcover ed.) after his own encounter with a Visitor: <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"...unlike you, I don't enjoy being terrified." </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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HIV immunity

Postby robertdreed » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:02 pm

I don't like saying this, but to me, the fact that it's recently been found that some European populations carry a high frequency of HIV-immune resistant genes tends to lend support to the idea that HIV is a bio-engineered ethno-specific virus, meant to target non-white populations. <br><br>One wouldn't expect that an early-model prototype bioengineered virus would work in a foolproof, clear-cut manner along ethnic lines- only that a marked statistical advantage be conferred for the "preferred" genotypes. Given that the route of transmission for HIV is seral, a further advantage of "socialized environmental immunity" is conferred on those populations that have access to the most sanitary conditions of health care and personal hygiene- i.e., places where "single-use syringes" and other medical implements actually do get discarded after a single use- i.e., the "developed world", largely populated by people of European ancestry. <br><br>Under the circumstances, it would also be helpful to look for the converse effect in some particularly afflicted ethnic groups- that the virus be comparatively more virulent and communicable than the statistical mean. I don't pretend to know enough about virology/epidemiology to say whether such skewing is rare or unique to HIV, or if there are other analogous examples...the fact that the HIV resistance characteristic is correlated to a given genotype set's historic smallpox and bubonic plague exposure is also provocative, because it makes for an ideal starting point for an ethnospecific engineering project.<br><br>If you'll allow me to continue with this admittedly paranoid line of inquiry, I just have one data point to add, significance unknown-<br><br>The first case of HIV-AIDS in the USA was traced to Haiti, no?<br><br>From Joseph Page's biography of Juan Peron, page 362:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>...Another visitor of note to the island [ of Hispaniola, where former Argentine leader Peron was enjoying itinerant exile in 1958, en route to his eventual destination, Madrid ] was Hans-Ulrich Rudel, the World War 2 Luftwaffe ace, who arrived in Cuidad Trujillo with a proposal from the German construction firms he represented to build hospitals in the Dominican Republic...</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I've wondered about that, ever since I first read it- Rudel, a known neo-Nazi, selling a hospital project to a poor, non-white, mostly black 3rd World country in the Western hemisphere...<br><br>Don't get me wrong, I'm by no means sold on the idea that HIV-AIDS is the result of a biowarfare project. But I'm glad I have a place to at least bring up such "unthinkable" conjectures, without being hooted down with derision. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 8/24/05 12:30 pm<br></i>
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OLD HAG ATTACK

Postby jonny » Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:13 pm

I have had at least two peculiar experiences at night that I can vividly remember, one of which fits roughly within the notion of an attack by a strange female - the other was simply an attack and lacked the same sense of sexual excitement. <br><br>I'm pretty sure too that I've had multiple episodes like this and i did do some research in to it a while back where I found a reasonable amount of literature and discussion about what was being called 'The Old Hag Attack'. Within this literature there was a pretty compelling scientific explanation to do with psychogogic/pompic trance states as one slips between wakefulness and sleep and vice versa. <br><br>Also, I vaguely recall that both episodes that I'm now remembering occurred at times of high stress for me. That's FWIW. <br><br>In the first experience I was aware of being assaulted by a female 'creature' while I was somewhere between sleep and wakefulness one night. I think it was actually early morning. <br><br>In the second I had just moved in to a new room in a house share in a new town where I'd begun a new job. It was my first night in the house and, as one does, I was sleeping on a strange bed in a strange room. In this instance I was basically attacked and beaten by an invisible entity though this time I believe that I was awoken by the attack and so experienced it 'live' so to speak. The ever so slightly chilling aspect of this second event was that a vivid part of the experience was that whatever it was that was attacking me was, at one point, holding me on the bed where I lay and repeatedly punching me in the back by bringing blows up through the wooden slats of the bed and through the mattress. It gets chilling because upon 'coming to' from the experience, terrified, I hauled the mattress from the bed to find that the bed was indeed a wooden slatted bed and not, as I'd supposed, a wire mesh bed frame. It was the first slatted bed frame I'd ever slept on. <br><br>Needless to say, I never slept in the room again and, in fact, moved in with friends in the same city the following afternoon after playing out a complicated game which involved getting my friend to come with me to pack up my belongings as I didn't want to tell him of my experience but also, I didn't want to be alone in the house either. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: thinking the unthinkable...

Postby hanshan » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:40 pm

<br>robert:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I don't like saying this, but to me, the fact that it's recently been found that some European populations carry a high frequency of HIV-immune resistant genes tends to lend support to the idea that HIV is a bio-engineered ethno-specific virus, meant to target non-white populations.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Actually, robert, this is something of a leap. Even the most farsighted researcher couldn't have forseen, much less predicted, an immune-resistant population 20-25 yrs. before the fact of it's discovery. This bio-scientific little morsel would have to fall into the categroy of unexpected windfall. The literature suggests the target<br>population as homosexual, although that could merely have been the target <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>vector</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.<br>However, the worst hit areas, 25+ yrs after introduction/<br>discovery have, as you say, been third-world, non-white<br>populations.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/dawessner/361HIV/index.html" target="top"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Biology of HIV/AIDS</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>In the summer of 1981, an unknown pop singer named Madonna began playing in New York City clubs, a new cable channel devoted to music videos, MTV, went on the air, and the first reports of the disease now known as AIDS appeared in the scientific literature.<br><br>In June of 1981, Dr. Michael Gottlieb and colleagues published a short report in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) describing a group of patients treated for Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia. As the editors of MMWR noted, P. carinii infections in young, previously healthy individuals were unusual. To add to the mystery, it was noted that all of the patients were homosexual and exhibited signs of a severe immunodeficiency, leading to the speculation that a new, sexually transmitted pathogen could be responsible for this disease. Few people, most likely, speculated that this short report in MMWR was the first documentation of a major epidemic that would affect the world in a horrifically tragic way.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/dawessner/361HIV/Syllabus.html" target="top">www.bio.davidson.edu/people/dawessner/361HIV/Syllabus.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>If you'll allow me to continue with this admittedly paranoid line of inquiry, I just have one data point to add, significance unknown-</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>It's not particularly paranoid to consider all possiblilites.<br>While no incontrovertible evidence has been found to support the contention that AIDS/HIV was, in fact,<br>bio-engineered, the circumstantial data supports a correlation.<br><br>The current available data confirms your <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>hag-attack</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>suspicions:<br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>But what is provable is that there is a list of countries which have been pursuing them and that the technology has been perfected to the point where they are within reach. (Part II will be published on March 11).</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/030403_genetic_p1.html" target="top"><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Unholy Grail: The Quest for<br>Genetic Weapons</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>In the conclusion of this unnerving series, Kellia Ramares reveals that gene-specific bioweapons may have already been used against the easiest targets of all. And she then takes a look at how the scientifc community is avoiding the issue along with the deeper ethical issues these weapons raise for all of mankind.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=97070" target="top"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Gene Specific WareFare,The Porton Downs Facility-Another Dead Microbiologist</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <br><br>The Rudel/Haiti connection seems a bit of a stretch.<br><br>Hooting? Not likely.<br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:comic sans ms;font-size:xx-small;">....</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby robertdreed » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:56 pm

Thanks for weighing in. Good sense is leavening. <br><br>As to Rudel's 1958 attempt to sell hospitals to the Trujillo regime in the Dominican Republic, I don't even know if he got the contract. <p></p><i></i>
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