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by compared2what? » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:49 pm
brekin wrote: Britney Spears, Timberlake, & Aguilara are all former Disney kids. Timberlake went on to N'Sync managed by Lou Perlman a known pedophile. Each at times has appeared to have mental problems
by psynapz » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:04 pm
compared2what? wrote:Justin Timberlake doesn't appear to have mental problems and never has.
by brekin » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:38 pm
However, thanks to a friend, I stumbled recently across a video on YouTube of Dave Smith giving a tour of the offices and it reminded me of something I knew but had forgotten: the source of the infamous “Kurt Russell” reference.
On Walt’s desks are copies of the company magazine, The Disney World, along with other papers including a note “to discuss with Card Walker and others” about the “Progress Report on the Disney World Project” (dated September 8, 1966). Nearly forgotten nearby is a typewritten page titled “TV Projects In Production: Ready for Production or Possible for Escalation and Story”. It is a list of possible live-action productions.
At the very bottom of the page, Walt used his famous red grease pencil to make the following notes:
“Ron Miller--
2 Way Down Cellar
2. Kirt (sp) Russell
3. CIA—Mobley”
What does it mean? Ron Miller was Walt’s son-in-law, but was also a producer on some of the live-action films and Walt was giving him more responsibility in that area. A little more than a year later, in January 1968, the weekly Disney television show offered a two-part live action story titled Way Down Cellar, just as Walt indicated. During a friendly football game, three young boys search for their lost ball after a bad pass and discover an entrance to a secret tunnel hidden in the ruins of a burned-out church. They follow it to a supposedly haunted house that has just been rented to a suspicious new tenant. One of the roles was played by Butch Patrick, better known as Eddie Munster from the popular television show The Munsters.
Kurt Russell’s name is misspelled and just below it is a reference to young actor Roger Mobley, who played the lead role in the Gallegher series on Disney’s weekly television show. (That series is long overdue to be released on DVD to Disney fans in my opinion. Disney should also hire Disney Historian Jim Fanning to do a special featurette for the release, as well.)
In this adventure, three young boys stumble upon a secret tunnel. Eventually they learn it was used during the Revolutionary War.
Marvellous tale in which three boys in a small Connecticut town drive the boy despising, stony hearted Miss Dengler and her colored cook nearly mad when they discover and make interesting use of the secret passage in her historic house. Hilariously funny, and true to small boys and American towns, as Phil Stong always is. The town meeting scene is a classic. Kurt Wiese's drawings are, it goes without saying, perfect for the book.
Walt wrote this the year he died in 1966.CIA-Mobley
Roger L. Mobley (born January 16, 1949) in Evansville, Indiana, is a former child actor in film and television, working primarily for Walt Disney Productions during the late 1950s and early 1960s. He later became a Christian pastor, serving in southeast Texas.[1]
Military background
In 1968, Mobley joined the United States Army and trained at the United States Army Airborne School. He was assigned to the Green Berets, and served a year with the 46th Special Forces Company in South Vietnam.[citation needed]
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After two years and seven months of military service, Mobley returned to California. He later moved to Vidor near Beaumont, Texas, where his parents were then living. He became a police officer and detective in Beaumont. He also worked as a police officer in Vidor and Jasper, Texas. At the time of his father's death, Mobley was living in Milam, Texas.[citation needed]
Mobley has worked in many kinds of blue collar jobs, including pipefitter, like his father; longshoreman; welder; bull rider; lumberjack; milk delivery; Federal Express truck driver; prison guard; and lifeguard. He was a football/basketball coach at a private school in Beaumont and the pastor of several country churches in southeast Texas. In addition to his pastorate, Mobley has worked as an inspector for a company that installs wind turbines nationwide.
http://www.mouseplanet.com/9734/Walts_L ... rt_RussellI wonder how many Disney fans know that Kurt’s brother, Bryan, who was about a year older also acted in Disney films. Both were in their early teens and each stood 5-foot-1 and weighed 95 pounds. They sometimes auditioned for the same projects. Bryan was a Disney contract player appearing in The Adventures of Bullwhip Griffin, Emil and the Detectives, Babes in Toyland and Charlie, the Lonesome Cougar.
Early life
Russell was born on March 17, 1951, in Springfield, Massachusetts, the son of Louise Julia (née Crone), a dancer; and Bing Russell, a character actor, best known for playing Deputy Clem Foster on Bonanza.[2] In the mid-1960s, Russell graduated from Thousand Oaks High School.
Bing Russell (May 5, 1926 – April 8, 2003) was an American actor and baseball club owner, and was the father of Golden Globe-nominated actor Kurt Russell.
Personal life
Russell was born Neil Oliver Russell in Brattleboro, Vermont, the son of Ruth Stewart (née Vogel) and Warren Oliver Russell. Russell always wanted to become an actor; he took drama at Brattleboro Middletown High School. He made his debut in Cavalry Patrol, and had some uncredited roles in his early career. Russell died from complications of cancer on April 8, 2003 in Thousand Oaks, California.
Spouse Louise Julia Crone (1946-2003; his death; 4 children)
Answer:
Bryan Russell, actor in Disney Movies and tv shows.
Correction - Actually, according to numerous sources, Kurt Russell's parents, Bing Russell and Louise Crane Russell, had only four children: three daughters (Jill, Jamie, and Jody) and one son (Kurt).
It seems unlikely that Bryan and Kurt are siblings. Bryan Russell is listed as having only one sister, Jeannie Russell.
Bryan and Kurt do both have piercing, extraordinary, blue eyes, which makes it seem very plausible that they are siblings, but I have found nothing to substantiate such a claim, and quite a bit that would seem to refute such an allegation.
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Trivia:
Brother of actress Jeannie Russell.
Born:December 3, 1952 in Los Angeles, California, USA
2000 Child Stars: Their Story (TV documentary)
Herself
2009 The Bilderberg Club: Meet the Shadow One World Government (short)
Carolyn Kott
1959-1963 Dennis the Menace (TV series)
Margaret / Margaret Wade
– A Man Among Men (1963) … Margaret
– The Three F's (1963) … Margaret
– Dennis the Rainmaker (1963) … Margaret
– Wilson's Second Childhood (1962) … Margaret Wade
– The New Principal (1962) … Margaret
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1963 The Birds
School Child (uncredited)
1961 Babes in Toyland
Singer (voice) (uncredited)
1961 Death Valley Days (TV series)
Crying School Child
– The Watch (1961) … Crying School Child
1961 Assignment: Underwater (TV series)
Amy
– Boat Missing (1961) … Amy
1959 The Deputy (TV series)
Casey Kinman
– The Johnny Shanks Story (1959) … Casey Kinman
How young celebrities deal with fame, pressure, and wealth, including interview with Fred Savage, Patty Duke, Jerry Mathers, Danny Bonaduce and Todd Brides.
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From the ImagiNation of Allport Production studios and the minds of Julia Diana Alexander and Chris M. Allport, The Bilderberg Club has been born. A political thriller- blurring the lines of conspiracy theory and conspiracy reality. This fictional examination of the actual Bilderberg Group, enlightens audiences, while quenching their thirst for knowledge about the 'Shadow One World Government.'
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1605759/plotsummary
The Adventures of Bullwhip Griffin is a 1967 Technicolor drama film directed by James Neilson, based on the novel By the Great Horn Spoon by Sid Fleischman, starring Roddy McDowall, Suzanne Pleshette and Karl Malden. Roddy McDowall plays Griffin, the very proper butler of Bostonian Jack Flagg (Bryan Russell). When Flagg runs off to California during the 1849 gold rush, Griffin dutifully tags along.
Bryan Russell is an American record producer. His credits include artists such as Straylight Run, Envy on the Coast, The Academy Is, and Anterrabae, and has also worked on records with Coldplay, Dream Theater, Paul Simon, Blue Wolf and Steely Dan. He is currently living and working out of New York City.
by brekin » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:31 pm
What do Walt Disney Studios and the Office of Strategic Services—the predecessor of today’s CIA—have in common? Accomplished camera effects artist Robert Carey Broughton created award-winning films for both organizations.
From Math to Magic
Broughton was born on September 17, 1917, in Berkeley, California. He spent most of his childhood in Glendale, California, where he attended Glendale High School and Glendale Junior College. Broughton also attended the University of California, Los Angeles, where he studied chemistry, physics, math and optics.
In 1937, Broughton got a job at Walt Disney Studios delivering mail. It wasn’t long before he was pulled to work in the camera department. He started out as an assistant in the test camera department, where he worked on Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Broughton’s job was to shoot the test camera to check for continuous action of the animation before finalizing the film.
Next, Broughton worked with the animation camera, which led to operating Disney’s famous multi-plane camera. It was used to create depth in animated featured films, including Pinocchio, Fantasia, Bambi, and many more.
Broughton was very involved with the production of Fantasia. His work on this film and his eye for detail earned him a promotion to camera department supervisor.
Filming the War
With the start of World War II, Broughton answered the call to service by joining the U.S. Army. He was assigned to the Field Photographic Branch of the OSS.
Film had not been used extensively during a war before, but with the beginning of World War II, it became apparent that it could serve a number of purposes:
* Boost propaganda and morale,
* Train the troops,
* Provide intelligence, and
* Record historical events.
During his time with the OSS, Broughton worked with Hollywood director John Ford to create documentary films about the war. Together, the two men produced The Battle of Midway, which won an Academy Award for best documentary in 1942. Broughton photographed most of the footage and Ford directed the film.
The OSS institutionalized using film in intelligence with the OSS Intelligence Photographic Documentation Project. Its purpose was to establish a worldwide photographic intelligence file of areas of strategic importance.
Creating Magic
After the War, Broughton returned to Disney as an assistant to legend Ub Iwerks—co-creator of Mickey Mouse. Under Iwerks, Broughton began to work on live-action motion pictures, such as Mary Poppins. He helped create the illusion that Dick Van Dyke was dancing with penguins by using Color Traveling Matte Composite Cinematography. This award-winning technology combined live action and animation on film.
In 1982—with 45 years of work at Disney under his belt—Broughton retired. He was known for his passion. Even after retiring, his enthusiasm lived on in his coordination of the retiree club, The Golden Ears.
Broughton was honored as a Disney Legend in 2001. This annual award honors an individual whose creativity and talent have contributed to producing magical films for children of all ages. Each Disney Legend receives an award cast in bronze and a plaque bearing their name, hand prints and signature at the Studios in California.
Broughton passed away on Monday, January 19, 2009. He was 91. Broughton is survived by two sons, five grandchildren, and three great-grandchildren.
The scene opens on a lone rider silhouetted against the backdrop of a vast and harsh wilderness. The contrast between man and nature makes the rider appear small and vulnerable. As he rides off into the distance, it seems that it might take him years to find what he’s searching for…
American film director John Ford is known for his breathtaking shots of man versus wild seen in movies like The Searchers (1956). During World War II, Ford used his gift as a director to aid the CIA’s predecessor, the Office of Strategic Services (OSS).
From Prop Man to Director
Ford was born Sean Aloysius O’Fearna (also known as John Martin “Jack” Feeney) on February 1, 1895 in Capetown, Maine—the 11th and last child of an Irish family. “Jack” attended Portland High School. He then went on to study at the University of Maine for a short time; in 1939, he received an honorary doctorate from his former university.
Jack followed his older brother Francis “Ford” to Hollywood and began his career in the movie industry. He adopted his brother’s last name and Jack Ford became his professional alias.
In 1914, Ford entered the world of filmmaking as a prop man. He quickly secured other assignments, including acting roles. In D.W. Griffith’s 1915 classic, The Birth of a Nation, Ford played one of the Klansmen.
Ford then began acting in his brother’s silent films. It wasn’t long before he was writing and directing films as well. In 1917, Ford directed his first film titled The Tornado (1917). After this accomplishment, Ford changed his name to John Ford, which was reflective of an English playwright he admired.
In 1920, Ford married Mary McBryde Smith. He had two children with Mary.
Filming for the OSS
Film had not been used extensively during a war before, but with the beginning of World War II, it became apparent that it could serve a number of purposes:
Boost propaganda and morale,
Train the troops,
Provide intelligence, and
Record historical events.
John Ford
In 1934, Ford was commissioned as a lieutenant commander in the U.S. Naval Reserve. Six years later in 1940, he began gathering a reserve unit of experienced Hollywood filmmakers. In October 1941 the unit was transferred to the Office of the Coordinator of Information (COI), the predecessor of the OSS. Ford and 30 of the men from the reserve unit became the Field Photographic Division of the COI. The name of the unit was later changed to the OSS Field Photographic Branch.
Ford’s initial job was to produce documentary films. His first few documentaries focused on the defense preparations in Panama and Iceland, the first Atlantic convoys to Europe, and a historical account of the Pearl Harbor attack.
The unit’s charter was later expanded; they created OSS training films and documented OSS activities in the field. Some of the activities documented include OSS Detachment 101, the paramilitary unit that operated behind Japanese lines in Burma and China, and the landing in Normandy in June 1944.
Ford’s unit also accompanied the Allied advance across Europe during 1944-45. The unit filmed installations, topography, and combat operations. The OSS institutionalized using film in intelligence with the OSS Intelligence Photographic Documentation Project. Its purpose was to establish a worldwide photographic intelligence file of areas of strategic importance.
Ford was discharged with the rank of captain and later continued his service as a rear admiral during the Korean War.
And the Award Goes to…
During the beginning of Ford’s career, the majority of his films were Westerns. Ford worked with many well-known cowboy stars such as Harry Carey, Hoot Gibson and John Wayne. Out of Ford’s 145 films, Wayne appears in 24 of them, including Stagecoach (1939), The Searchers (1956) and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962).
Ford developed a distinctive style and a reputation as a brilliant storyteller. One of Ford’s favorite places to film was in the Monument Valley region of Arizona and Utah. He frequented the region so much that his colleagues began to call the area “Ford Country.” Ford’s use of the territory in his films defined the image of the American west in popular culture. He is also known for using his storylines to address social issues, such as the themes of race and integration explored in The Searchers.
Ford’s won his first Academy Award for best director in 1935 for his film The Informer. He went on to win three more best director Academy Awards for his films The Grapes of Wrath (1940), How Green Was My Valley (1941) and The Quiet Man (1952). Ford was the only director to have won four best director Academy Awards. He also won two more Academy Awards: one for the documentary The Battle of Midway (1942) and another for the propaganda film December 7 (1943).
Recognition for Service
Ford received many awards for his service:
Legion of Merit
Purple Heart
*Air Medal
Ford’s contributions to the war effort using his talent as a director and filmmaker demonstrate how anyone can aid in the security of a nation. In 1973, Ford died at the age of 79 in Palm Desert, California from stomach cancer.
Ford was posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Richard Nixon in 1973. That same year, Ford was the first recipient of the American Film Institute Life Achievement Award
A Look Back ... Julia Child: Life Before French Cuisine
Julia Child is probably best known for bringing French cuisine into America’s mainstream. But, few know that she had a dynamic career as an intelligence officer before she became a cooking icon.
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by peartreed » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:06 am
by Nordic » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:31 am
Walt and Lilian Disney's daughter Diane talks to the Huffington Post about her parents' "secret apartment" over the firehouse on Disneyland's Main Street, USA. The apartment, decorated by a film production designer called Emile Kuri, was a private haven for the Disneys during the construction of Disneyland, and remained so after its completion. The apartment is still there (though it's off-limits to the public) and is a kind of time-capsule of the Disneys private lives.
There's another space, over the Pirates of the Caribbean, that was built to be a more lavish family apartment, but Walt died before it was completed. It was the "Disney Gallery" (a shop selling prints and other souvenirs) for many years, though it was lately converted to a luxury hotel suite, the "Disneyland Dream Suite." Initially, stays in the suite were awarded as surprise prizes to visitors, but now I believe it can be rented at a very high tariff.Did a lot of people get to go up there, or it was a very private place?
Very private. It was for them. It was their residence there and they would invite people up, if there were special people in the park, mother and dad would go out and they would invite them up. Early, it was during "Davy Crockett," I remember there was some event there that day and Fess Parker and Buddy Ebsen were both out there for it, and dad was looking out that window and saw them and he said, "Hey, come on up!"
He told them how to get around, back behind, and get up to the apartment and there was a fire pole in it, it's not there now, but there was a door into the closet area that had a fire pole, like the firemen would have, and he showed it to them and said, "Why don't you guys slide down that?" And they did! People would say, did your father ever do that? I'm sure he didn't.
by Col Quisp » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:55 am
by AlicetheKurious » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:19 am
by Simulist » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:29 pm
by FourthBase » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:50 pm
by Bruce Dazzling » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:53 pm
FourthBase wrote:Bruce, please don't send this thread to the fire pit because of what I'm about to say. I don't think it's fair for someone to be piled on and piled on and then just when there's a peep from others coming to his defense, a mod steps in with the yellow flags and timeouts. I understand it must be difficult to mod, this board especially, but now this thread exists for all time as a thread where one guy gets unfairly hammered in a half-dozen different directions, and then the squabble ends before he gets a chance for others to pipe up in his defense:
This thread is a disgrace. It should have been a gem. It's not a disgrace because of brekin. On the contrary. It's a disgrace because of the otherwise intelligent people who piled on brekin, otherwise intelligent people being stupid, self-righteously stupid, really really stupid, a self-enforced idiotic blindness. Quite a few of you owe brekin an apology. Not that I think your rigid epistemic derangement will allow it. Incredible, really. Accusing someone of perpetuating a stereotype, when it's actually your forced and false detection of the stereotype in this particular case doing the perpetuation, here. Gnash and wail, go ahead. Or, be adults, realize how wrong you were, and focus instead on the substance of this thread, especially this last page, which was unfairly ignored.
Also, I cannot fucking fathom it, that anyone here would ever say "whatever, he's dead, move along" to an allegation of Walt fucking Disney being a pedophile. Or, "So what, there are real victims of pedophiles to focus on, Disney's pedophilia is a distraction." Or whatever. Did a bunch of you have concussions all around the same time last year? What the hell.
Bruce Dazzling wrote:In order to prevent this thread from degenerating further into a flame argument between two completely entrenched sides, I'm going to request that the discussion move forward towards something other than rehashing the same argument over and over. After all, you've all made your points several times, and there's always PMs if you still feel that you need to hash this out with individual posters.
FourthBase wrote:I don't think it's fair for someone to be piled on and piled on and then just when there's a peep from others coming to his defense, a mod steps in with the yellow flags and timeouts.
Bruce Dazzling wrote:Walt Disney, the sainted godfather of pure family entertainment, is being posthumously accused of being a pedophile. It seems to me that that's the basis for a pretty good discussion, If it's not, then this thread will die a natural death.
But again, please move away from repeating the same argument that we've seen for four pages. If it continues, I'm afraid the Fire Pit will have a new resident.
by seemslikeadream » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:16 pm
How the CIA Helped Disney Conquer Florida
Apr 14, 2013 4:45 AM EDT
With advice from former CIA operatives and lawyers, Disney bought up the land for Florida’s Disney World and orchestrated a unique legal situation—and set up an unconstitutional form of government. An excerpt from TD Allman’s Finding Florida.
Starting in the mid-1960s when Disney set out to establish the Disney World Theme Park, they were determined to get land at below market prices and Disney operatives engaged in a far-ranging conspiracy to make sure sellers had no idea who was buying their Central Florida property. By resorting to such tactics Disney acquired more than 40 square miles of land for less than $200 an acre, but how to maintain control once Disney's empire had been acquired? The solution turned out to be cartoon-simple, thanks to the CIA.
Disney's key contact was the consummate cloak-and-dagger operator, William "Wild Bill" Donovan. Sometimes called the "Father of the C.I.A," he was also the founding partner of Donovan, Leisure, Newton & Irvine, a New York law firm whose attorneys included future C.I.A. director William Casey. Donovan’s attorneys provided fake identities for Disney agents; they also set up a secret communications center, and orchestrated a disinformation campaign. In order to maintain "control over the overall development," Disney and his advisers realized, “the company would have to find a way to limit the voting power of the private residents" even though, they acknowledged, their efforts "violated the Equal Protection Clause" of the U.S. Constitution. Here again the CIA was there to help. Disney's principal legal strategist for Florida was a senior clandestine operative named Paul Helliwell. Having helped launch the C.I.A. secret war in Indochina, Helliwell relocated to Miami in 1960 in order to coordinate dirty tricks against Castro. At a secret "seminar" Disney convened in May 1965 Helliwell came up with the approach that to this day allows the Disney organization to avoid taxation and environmental regulation as well as maintain immunity from the U.S. Constitution. It was the same strategy the C.I.A. pursued in the foreign countries. Set up a puppet government; then use that regime to do your bidding.
Though no one lived there, Helliwell advised Disney to establish at least two phantom "cities,” then use these fake governments to control land use and make sure the public monies the theme park generated stayed in Disney's private hands. On paper Disney World's "cities" would be regular American home towns—except their only official residents would be the handful of hand-picked Disney loyalists who periodically "elected" the officials who, in turn, ceded complete control to Disney executives.
In early 1967, the Florida legislature created Hallowell’s two "cities,” both named for the artificial reservoirs Disney engineers created by obstructing the area's natural water flow. When you visit Disney's Magic Kingdom, you are visiting the City of Bay Lake, Florida. The other was the City of Lake Buena Vista. In both “cities,” in violation of both the U.S. and Florida Constitutions the Disney-engineered legislation established a property qualification for holding elective office, requiring that each candidate for office there "must be the owner, either directly or as a trustee, of real property situated in the City" in order "to be eligible to hold the office of councilman."
Though enacted by the legislature, this and other crucial pieces of Disney-enabling legislation, which would reshape central Florida and affect the lives of tens of millions of people, was written by teams of Disney lawyers working in New York at the Donovan firm, and in Miami at Helliwell's offices. Disney lawyers in California signed off on the text before it was flown to Tallahassee where, without changing a word, Florida’s compliant legislators enacted it into law. “No one thought of reading it,” one ex-lawmaker later remarked. Later, after the houses there were sold, compliant legislatures excluded all the residents of Celebration from Disney’s domain, to prevent them from voting.
Those who were there never forgot the day Disney inaugurated what truly would be a magic kingdom in Florida – magically above the law. The Governor and his Cabinet came down from Tallahassee. TV crews were in attendance, along with Florida's most eminent civic leaders. Right on schedule, the curtains parted. On the screen, Walt Disney gave his much beloved, self-deprecating smile, then announced that in Florida he was going to create a new kind of America, not just a theme park.
There would "be no landowners, and therefore no voter control," Disney responded, when asked how he planned to maintain control.
If Florida, among all the many melodramas of the last 500 years, could be said to have had only one defining moment, this was it because in this place, at this particular time, the distinction between reality and fantasy—nature and names—vanished entirely. Walt Disney was dead when he made this presentation. A chronic smoker, he had died of lung cancer seven weeks earlier. As the lips of the dead Disney moved, people in the audience murmured their agreement. As his hands gestured, they nodded their approval. The posthumous Walt Disney, like the mechanical Andrew Jackson in the Hall of the Presidents, had joined Mickey, Donald, and the Sorcerer's Apprentice in that special world where it doesn't matter whether you're real or not.
A month before he died Disney confirmed it was all a trick. There would "be no landowners, and therefore no voter control," Disney responded, when asked how he planned to maintain control.
Of course he was right about creating a new kind of America. By turning the State of Florida and its statutes into their enablers, Disney and his successors pioneered a business model based on public subsidy of private profit coupled with corporate immunity from the laws, regulations, and taxes imposed on actual people that now increasingly characterizes the economy of the United States. Over the decades Disney World has showed that, once tasted, partial impunity is never enough. As Disney World's powers increased, its lobbyists made sure the State of Florida lost even the authority to protect the public from injury and death there. In June 2005 Rob Jacobs, at the time chief of Florida's Bureau of Fair Rides Inspection, summed up the human meaning of such impunity. "We don't have the authority to close the park down or close the rides.”
One reason no federal court has ever ruled on the unconstitutionality of Disney World's violation of voting rights is that no one so far has challenged it. It is as though a crucial sector of the New York metropolitan area—Wall Street, for instance—were exempted from democracy as well as taxation, government regulation and the rule of law, and no one so much as protested.
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