Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[FourthBase]

Been watching local news all day. I saw that roommate interviewed by about three reporters at once. He seemed to be on drugs. English wasn't so good. Barely passable. But it was his attitude. Smirking, combative, blase, shifty. Do not imagine when reading his words in an article that he is saying this shit with even a trace of solemnity or angst. He was acting like he didn't care one fucking bit. Like he knew someone or something had his back, that he had nothing to fear by being so flippant and nonchalant to a small pool of reporters. #firstimpressions

Still, the idea that a young kid in full blown traditional Saudi male headdress and robes would be dropping off the bombs seems like the invention of the typical American viewer who doesn't even know the difference between Shiite and Sunni. After the Sandy Hook "video detectives" I've learned to not imbue anything from video interviews. Tho, I also realize people can be just callous or out of touch with reality too.

Doubtful he would've been in that garb yesterday. Right? Also, pretty sure there are pics of 9/11 hijackers in such garb. Correct? I'm not imbuing anything, man. Just giving my first impressions. Seemed like the kid was drunk or stoned. And yeah, he might just be callous or out of touch. He wouldn't be the only person in the world like that. (I wouldn't suspect any armchair wannabe Alex Joneses of being involved, just because of their grotesque callousness and overeagerness to be parapolitical Nostradamuses.) Still, he gave me the willies. I've learned to respect my willies.

[FourthBase]

Here's how I see it. If it's a Saudi or Saudi cell, they could still have been taking orders from an obscure neo-Nazi taskmaster and Quebecois arms-dealing paymaster, who themselves could be taking orders from some NSC spook or Bilderberger/Grover. The problem here is that as soon as one suspect is identified, the aperture of people's imaginations will start to close, unnecessarily. It behooves everyone to keep entertaining the cliche of "strange bedfellows", a cliche that was most famously on display in the Oklahoma bombing. It's a much more meaningful cliche than "jihadists" or "supremacists", it's a deep cliche that somehow gets ditched quicker than the words "Authorities have identified..." can be finished. Let's keep the various balls up in the air longer than the authorities and media will inevitably want us to. Cultivate uncertainty. Sounds like a creepy admonition, kind of like a way to keep you interminably guessing. But, it beats the fuck out of being certainly way the fuck off, barking up a very wrong tree. Bark up trees, plural. For the time being, and then a little afterward.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

Here's how I see it. If it's a Saudi or Saudi cell, they could still have been taking orders from an obscure neo-Nazi taskmaster and Quebecois arms-dealing paymaster, who themselves could be taking orders from some NSC spook or Bilderberger/Grover. The problem here is that as soon as one suspect is identified, the aperture of people's imaginations will start to close, unnecessarily. It behooves everyone to keep entertaining the cliche of "strange bedfellows", a cliche that was most famously on display in the Oklahoma bombing. It's a much more meaningful cliche than "jihadists" or "supremacists", it's a deep cliche that somehow gets ditched quicker than the words "Authorities have identified..." can be finished. Let's keep the various balls up in the air longer than the authorities and media will inevitably want us to. Cultivate uncertainty. Sounds like a creepy admonition, kind of like a way to keep you interminably guessing. But, it beats the fuck out of being certainly way the fuck off, barking up a very wrong tree. Bark up trees, plural. For the time being, and then a little afterward.

So it could be Operation Gladio, they're just struggling to find the most cost-effective scapegoat?

All joking aside, that's a good middle ground to maintain. Once authorities have identified someone, I'll be looking "around" that someone to look beyond what we're being told is the truth.

[82_28]

Julian, Loren Coleman is loosely tying it to you kids and significance to the streets, city and history with that old Masonic twist. Any thoughts on this?

http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2013/04/boylston.html

[FourthBase]

Julian, Loren Coleman is loosely tying it to you kids and significance to the streets, city and history with that old Masonic twist. Any thoughts on this?

http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2013/04/boylston.html

I couldn't discern a single fucking point in that article.
Is that what that blog usually offers? Jack shit?

[happenstance]

Ricin Envelope sent to Senator

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/e ... at-capitol

[Nordic]

LB can you elaborate on this image? I'm probably not seeing the forest for the trees again...

No it's okay, I didn't fully understand it myself. The man encircled in blue supposedly has dropped a backpack between the top and bottom images. The red circles link the before and after placement of the bomb, with the view to the right showing a leveled plane of view.

The point is that 4chan is actually shining in this instance and doing their public damndest to actually sleuth this one out. Obviously I can't link to it but it's interesting between the boots on the ground and the intel gathering efforts.

The bomb obviously blew out from inside the building, not from where that guy was standing. Unless he went inside the building to drop off his backpack, which I don't think is what the picture is purporting to show.

[conniption]

[stillrobertpaulsen]

Injured Saudi is a witness, not a suspect, in Boston bombing

By Greg Miller, Tuesday, April 16, 9:05 AM

U.S. law enforcement officials said Tuesday that a Saudi national injured in the Boston Marathon bombing is regarded as a witness, not a suspect.

The Saudi, who is recuperating at a Boston hospital, is in his 20s and is in the United States on a Saudi scholarship to study at a university in the Boston area.

The federal officials’ explanation echoed comments by a Saudi official at the country’s embassy in Washington. The embassy official said that a Saudi national has been questioned as a witness but is not regarded as a suspect. The Saudi official cited information provided to the embassy by U.S. law enforcement officials.

“We’re not aware of any Saudi suspect or Saudi person of interest,” said the Saudi official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the preliminary nature of the information.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... id=d_pulse

[FourthBase]

LB can you elaborate on this image? I'm probably not seeing the forest for the trees again...

No it's okay, I didn't fully understand it myself. The man encircled in blue supposedly has dropped a backpack between the top and bottom images. The red circles link the before and after placement of the bomb, with the view to the right showing a leveled plane of view.

The point is that 4chan is actually shining in this instance and doing their public damndest to actually sleuth this one out. Obviously I can't link to it but it's interesting between the boots on the ground and the intel gathering efforts.

The bomb obviously blew out from inside the building, not from where that guy was standing. Unless he went inside the building to drop off his backpack, which I don't think is what the picture is purporting to show.

Can people take more care when using words like "obviously"? Nordic, do you actually have the slightest clue of that street's layout, how it relates to the pics? Not that the dude is necessarily a real suspect, not at all, no idea, but he is standing right next to the building in those photos, just a few several feet away, basically within an arm's about three arms' length. Have you not seen the first published photo of the second bomb, which obviously, or at least way more "obviously" than your "obviously", shows a blast emanating from somewhere outside somewhere on the sidewalk?



Edited: In those two pictures, he's further away from the building than I first thought.
Still, he's relatively close to the building, compared to other people on that wide sidewalk.

[justdrew]

Julian, Loren Coleman is loosely tying it to you kids and significance to the streets, city and history with that old Masonic twist. Any thoughts on this?

http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2013/04/boylston.html

I couldn't discern a single fucking point in that article.
Is that what that blog usually offers? Jack shit?

I sure didn't need to see that last pic from his yesterday post. He's just cashing ad-views at this point. gotta make a living. I guess cryptozoology just didn't pan out.

no one mentions that Patriot Day IS 9/11. too obvious? Anyway and apostrophe and an S don't make much difference.

[82_28]

Julian, Loren Coleman is loosely tying it to you kids and significance to the streets, city and history with that old Masonic twist. Any thoughts on this?

http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2013/04/boylston.html

I couldn't discern a single fucking point in that article.
Is that what that blog usually offers? Jack shit?

So the fuck what if you couldn't get it. I couldn't either and that's why I asked because what isn't to be gotten is sometimes something to get. Whatever, man. It's a fucking website and dude that many reputable people link to all across our sliver of the web. To name one, is Boingboing. Here at home elfismiles frequently links to him as well. He does a lot of what I do, namely making connections where there are none -- yet something to think about.

You can find Loren Coleman’s comprehensive new blog, the CryptoZooNews (CZN), at cryptozoonews.com
Upon hearing of the new blog, what are people saying…
“There is no more-respected source in the field of cryptozoology than Loren Coleman.” ~ David Pescovitz of Boing Boing.
“Being the most prolific writer in any cryptozoological field…Loren Coleman has been researching his interests for literally decades…I think
it’s fair to say that we can expect good things from Loren in the future as he pursues his passions on his own platform.” ~ Cliff Brackman of
Finding Bigfoot.
I’ve always admired Loren Coleman’s novel ability to put topical cryptonews in historical context. I’m looking forward to his continued
voice.” ~ Guy Edwards of Bigfoot Lunch Club.

http://lorencoleman.com/

It's a topic/topics the dude covers and thinks about. And as of yet, I have never seen any axe to grind on his part and also his shit isn't "jack shit", it's what he does. You are free to your opinions. I am not going to defend his speculative nature for anyone. I have my own nature to deal with. But dude's just a dude that freeforms ideas and little items of note with a view to nomenclature and history.

[82_28]

Julian, Loren Coleman is loosely tying it to you kids and significance to the streets, city and history with that old Masonic twist. Any thoughts on this?

http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2013/04/boylston.html

I couldn't discern a single fucking point in that article.
Is that what that blog usually offers? Jack shit?

I sure didn't need to see that last pic from his yesterday post. He's just cashing ad-views at this point. gotta make a living. I guess cryptozoology just didn't pan out.

no one mentions that Patriot Day IS 9/11. too obvious? Anyway and apostrophe and an S don't make much difference.

Again, not defending him. Just saying that it is/was out there and I happened to read it and wondered what Julian might have to say, as a Mason.

[FourthBase]

Look: I may be wrong about that whitish stuff being a pile of shattered glass instead of unexploded fertilizer like that old guy expert said. I may be wrong about the second bomb being an outside explosion instead of an inside explosion. That pic of that dude may even be from the location of the first explosion, not the second. I don't know with certainty. I retract any certainty to my previous eyeballing. Forgive me if I was wrong about anything. I'm sorry if I was. Point is, let's save the obviouslys and the clearlys and the 100% certainty for when it's really, truly appropriate.

[brekin]

Before and after pictures of one of the possible bags that had the bomb via WHDH in Boston.
There is video at the site but won't play for me. Second image is intentionally blurred
because of the victims.

Read more: http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/loca ... ?hpt=hp_t2#ixzz2QfpS1ACx

BOSTON (WHDH) -- Photos sent to 7News by a viewer show the scene just before and right after the bombs went off on Boylston Street.
7News has provided these pictures to the FBI as they continue their investigation. They are looking at the pictures to see if it's possible it could be the second bomb.

In the first picture you can see a bag next to a mailbox and up against a barricade along the marathon route. In the second, which we have blurred because it is very graphic, there is no sign of the bag. The viewer who took the pictures says there may be an hour or more between when the first and second pictures were taken.