The Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

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Re: The Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Postby MinM » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:27 am

thatsmystory wrote:Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Guests: John Edwards, Wesley Clark, Judith Miller, Ephraim Sneh, Tom Clancy, Steven Emerson, Richard Holbrooke and Samuel Berger.

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OK, for a start, there really is no "Judith Miller and me," at least in the sense that I'd invite her to my birthday party. But I have talked to her on the phone a few times (nothing to do with Valerie Plame, Scooter Libby or Karl Rove, however). For a time, our lives were remotely in each other's gravity, drawn together by a pseudo-journalist--indeed, a model for what Miller has become--named Steven Emerson...

"Perhaps Miller's most consistent failing as a journalist is that she only makes connections and offers analyses of matters that suit her thesis about the militant, hateful quality of the Arab world. I have little quarrel with the general view that the Arab world is in a dreadful state, and have said so repeatedly for the past three decades. But she barely registers the existence of a determined anti-Arab and anti-Islamic U.S. policy. She plays fast and loose with fact."

Did you get that last sentence by Said: Miller "plays fast and loose with fact." Said wrote that nine years ago. The Times apparently just noticed.

Miller first surfaced on my radar about a decade ago. Her close confederate was Emerson. Both had been engaged in a furious campaign attacking virtually every Arab and Muslim voice in America. Emerson--who also at various times claimed to be a journalist--lost his foothold as a commentator among most responsible media, especially after he tried to pin the Oklahoma City bombing on Muslims.

Emerson's most noteworthy crusade has been against a Tampa professor, Sami Al-Arian. Emerson and an ally at The Tampa Tribune were relentless. I eventually exposed many of Emerson's and the Trib's distortions and exaggerations. More important, the top FBI counterterrorism chief told me Al-Arian had not committed any federal crimes, and the lead federal prosecutor in the case also said there was no evidence to prosecute.

My heavily documented revelations about Emerson provoked him to retaliate via a lawsuit. Noteworthy, the lawyer he went to for advice was Floyd Abrams, most recently in the news as Miller's attorney. That's only fitting.

We spent four years litigating with Emerson, and finally prevailed in both federal and state courts. The final blow to his case came when we obtained an order compelling him to show proof of his allegations. He wouldn't--couldn't?--and he ran away.

During the litigation, one of the most interesting insights that I gleaned were reports of meetings held that involved Miller, Emerson, arch-Islamaphobe Daniel Pipes--and a number of other people we now call "neo-cons." All of these people had strong ties to the right-wing Likud party in Israel. Heck, Miller had even sat in on Israeli "interrogation" sessions of Palestinians; and Emerson provided beds in his Washington apartment to Likud spooks who slipped into the United States to try and undermine peace negotiations.

Keep in mind, it took 9/11 to restore a veneer of credibility to Emerson as an "expert" on terrorism.

Many people, including me, had predicted years ago that terrorism would reach our shores. If we declare we are on the road to inevitable conflict with a culture and religion, and pursue policies that reflect such belligerence, it's likely to happen. (Of course, missing from Miller's, Emerson's and Pipes' breathless predictions about terrorism striking America is the fact that it long ago had. The Islam-haters neglect to notice the thousands of terrorist events in the United States committed by fundamentalist Christians who hate blacks or oppose abortion, not to mention the scores of bombings and murders committed by right-wing Cubans in Miami. Indeed, the only three actual Middle East-related terrorist events in Florida, including an assassination attempt on a former Israeli prime minister, were committed by radical supporters of Israel, not by Arabs or Muslims. But you're not supposed to know that.)...

John Sugg: Judith Miller and Me


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Anti-Muslim crusaders make millions spreading fear | tennessean.com | The Tennessean
First of Two Parts

Steven Emerson has 3,390,000 reasons to fear Muslims.

That's how many dollars Emerson's for-profit company — Washington-based SAE Productions — collected in 2008 for researching alleged ties between American Muslims and overseas terrorism. The payment came from the Investigative Project on Terrorism Foundation, a nonprofit charity Emerson also founded, which solicits money by telling donors they're in imminent danger from Muslims.

Emerson is a leading member of a multimillion-dollar industry of self-proclaimed experts who spread hate toward Muslims in books and movies, on websites and through speaking appearances.

Leaders of the so-called "anti-jihad" movement portray themselves as patriots, defending America against radical Islam. And they've found an eager audience in ultra-conservative Christians and mosque opponents in Middle Tennessee. One national consultant testified in an ongoing lawsuit aimed at stopping a new Murfreesboro mosque.

But beyond the rhetoric, Emerson's organization's tax-exempt status is facing questions at the same time he's accusing Muslim groups of tax improprieties.

"Basically, you have a nonprofit acting as a front organization, and all that money going to a for-profit," said Ken Berger, president of Charity Navigator, a nonprofit watchdog group. "It's wrong. This is off the charts."

But a spokesman for Emerson's company said the actions were legal and designed to protect workers there from death threats.

"It's all done for security reasons," said Ray Locker, a spokesman for SAE Productions.

Emerson made his name in the mid-1990s with his documentary film Jihad in America, which aired on PBS. Produced after the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, the film uncovered terrorists raising money in the United States.

He followed up with the books Jihad Incorporated: A Guide to Militant Islam in the U.S. and American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us...
What's interesting is that USA Today carried this story but has now deleted it along with over 175 comments. Someone with clout didn't like it...

http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2010/ ... lions.html

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Re: The Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Postby MinM » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:07 am

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Byrne wrote:From Sepka's OP
If the CIA is using those [Hollywood movies] to distract from specific events in the news, then they know two years in advance what the headlines will be.


The KWH theme that Hugh puports is not only (I'd say) KWH by Hollywood movies after the event, but keyword preplanting:

On the very morning of 11th September 2001, in a broadcast at 8.01 am,
the 911 keyword is broadcast:

the 911keyword is happenly mentioned (by coincidenceImage, of course...

[Note also the the object in the weather report that appears to be approaching the East Coast, but isn't mentioned....] but that's another story...

This pre-9/11 preconditioning on 9/11 brought to mind the post-9/11 wrap-up show that night on Charlie Rose. Complete with the on-call panel of Islamophobes.

Ironically tonight Charlie Rose had historian Douglas Brinkley on to put the latest JFK tapes into "context"...
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Re: The Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

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Re: The Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:03 pm

Nordic wrote:
On October 12, 2001, Miller opened an anthrax hoax letter mailed to her New York Times office.


Seems kind of convenient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Miller_(journalist)


She also had a book out about bioterrorism at the same time. This was her marketing campaign.
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Re: The Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Postby MinM » Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:03 pm

Could it be that Charlie Rose is just an unwitting dupe in all of these fraudulent narratives?
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Manti Te’o’s Dead Girlfriend, The Most Heartbreaking And Inspirational Story Of The College Football Season, Is A Hoax
Timothy Burke and Jack Dickey

...On the day of the BCS championship game between Notre Dame and Alabama, CBS This Morning ran a three-minute story that featured a direct quote from Lennay Kekua:

Babe, if anything happens to me, you promise that you'll stay there and you'll play and you'll honor me through the way you play.

CBS also displayed this photo of Kekua several times throughout the piece:
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Re: The Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Postby MinM » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:50 pm

Could it be that Charlie Rose is just an unwitting dupe in all of these fraudulent narratives?

Apparently that would be a negatory good buddy...
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Will the RFK Jr. interview w/Charlie Rose ever air? :offair:
Image @JFKLancer: Action Alert From CTKA - Release the tape of the Charlie Rose interview with RFK, Jr. and Rory Kennedy.

https://twitter.com/JFKLancer/status/298153579481542658

Jim DiEugenio wrote:Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:51 AM

There is no way in the world RFK Jr. is holding this up.

I think this is just a bunch of BS in order not to get it out there now.

That is why we should be putting pressure on them.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index ... ntry266140

# Show #615
Original airdate: January 31, 2013
Guest: Jim DiEugenio
Topics: RFK Jr. / Listener Questions / Destiny Betrayed

Play Jim DiEugenio (53:27) Real Media or MP3 download

# RFK Jr. interview with Charlie Rose, no Kennedy has gone on record against the WC
# The show was taped but has not yet aired, it has created a mini media sensation
# Brothers (Talbot 2008), One Hell of a Gamble (Fursenko/Naftali 1998)
# Bobby was interested in the Garrison investigation, he doubted the WC
# Rose started in Dallas, an establishment figure, he leaned toward a mob hit
# No transcript, audio or video of this interview, still under Dallas auspices
# RFK Jr. called Jim Douglass and thanked him for JFK and the Unspeakable (2010)
# Listener Questions, KHOU in Dallas, where Dan Rather got his start
# J.D. Tippit was married and had a girlfriend, his true intention, no full biography
# Jim thinks LHO was not at 10th and Patton, Tippit was shot to enrage the Dallas police
# Tippit was out of his patrol area, three versions of Dallas Police radio calls tape
# Of whom would you ask three quesions? Oswald, then Ruby
# In the summer 1963 did you have any intimations that someone was manipulating you?
# Did you go to Mexico City? If no, where were you? If yes, what did you actually do?
# Where did you go between the TSBD and the Texas Theater?
# Roger Craig testified before the Shaw grand jury, Craig and the Rambler troubled the police
# Lt. Day and the CIA? Other Dallas police and the CIA? Police were trained by the CIA
# Would truthful document releases be believed? Wouldn't factions still argue?
# What are we looking for to be released? ARRB says 1,100 documents still need release
# New Orleans, Garrison, Clay Shaw trial, Smoking guns? Doubt it
# The plot may have been hatched when Kennedy established back channels

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Re: The Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Postby MinM » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:33 pm

Steve Emerson Gets It Wrong–Again
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By now, many people have heard the story of the "Saudi national," a young man who was injured at the Boston Marathon bombing–and then found himself being treated as a suspect. His apartment was searched while he was receiving medical treatment.

But why was he considered a suspect? It seems like the mere fact that he was Saudi Arabian was considered by investigators to be grounds for suspicion. But there appears to be more to it than that.

Enter "terrorism expert" Steve Emerson, who continues to make the media rounds despite a checkered history that most notably included the assessment that the mass casualties inflicted by the Oklahoma City bombing were "a Middle Eastern trait."

The day after the Boston attack, Emerson appeared on C-SPAN's Washington Journal (4/16/13) with host Greta Wodele Brawner, where he appeared to claim responsibility for the investigation of the Saudi national:

EMERSON: On the Facebook page of the person of interest, there were interesting entries that showed an animus toward the United States. Again, he has not been convicted, but the burns on his skin match the explosive residue of the bomb that exploded.

WODELE BRAWNER: Is this the Saudi national, or those two different people?

EMERSON: The Saudi national.

Emerson claimed that "we found the Facebook page of the person of interest last night before the FBI did." The apparently incriminating evidence? "There were lots of pictures of his friends. Some of them showed anti-American animus, such as support for the Muslim Brotherhood."

Emerson went on to claim that "ball bearings are a highlight of…the jihadist type of suicide bombing in the Middle East." As journalist Ali Gharib (Open Zion, 4/16/13) noted, Emerson made a similar claim on a Fox News show as well–"nails and ball-bearings, which is a hallmark, by the way, of jihadist suicide bombings." But, as Gharib points out, non-jihadists like the Unabomber also put nails into bombs.

Will this latest incident have any effect on Emerson's media career? If the past is any guide, probably not.

http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/04/17/ste ... rong-again

thatsmystory wrote:Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Guests: John Edwards, Wesley Clark, Judith Miller, Ephraim Sneh, Tom Clancy, Steven Emerson, Richard Holbrooke and Samuel Berger.

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OK, for a start, there really is no "Judith Miller and me," at least in the sense that I'd invite her to my birthday party. But I have talked to her on the phone a few times (nothing to do with Valerie Plame, Scooter Libby or Karl Rove, however). For a time, our lives were remotely in each other's gravity, drawn together by a pseudo-journalist--indeed, a model for what Miller has become--named Steven Emerson...

"Perhaps Miller's most consistent failing as a journalist is that she only makes connections and offers analyses of matters that suit her thesis about the militant, hateful quality of the Arab world. I have little quarrel with the general view that the Arab world is in a dreadful state, and have said so repeatedly for the past three decades. But she barely registers the existence of a determined anti-Arab and anti-Islamic U.S. policy. She plays fast and loose with fact."

Did you get that last sentence by Said: Miller "plays fast and loose with fact." Said wrote that nine years ago. The Times apparently just noticed.

Miller first surfaced on my radar about a decade ago. Her close confederate was Emerson. Both had been engaged in a furious campaign attacking virtually every Arab and Muslim voice in America. Emerson--who also at various times claimed to be a journalist--lost his foothold as a commentator among most responsible media, especially after he tried to pin the Oklahoma City bombing on Muslims.

Emerson's most noteworthy crusade has been against a Tampa professor, Sami Al-Arian. Emerson and an ally at The Tampa Tribune were relentless. I eventually exposed many of Emerson's and the Trib's distortions and exaggerations. More important, the top FBI counterterrorism chief told me Al-Arian had not committed any federal crimes, and the lead federal prosecutor in the case also said there was no evidence to prosecute.

My heavily documented revelations about Emerson provoked him to retaliate via a lawsuit. Noteworthy, the lawyer he went to for advice was Floyd Abrams, most recently in the news as Miller's attorney. That's only fitting.

We spent four years litigating with Emerson, and finally prevailed in both federal and state courts. The final blow to his case came when we obtained an order compelling him to show proof of his allegations. He wouldn't--couldn't?--and he ran away.

During the litigation, one of the most interesting insights that I gleaned were reports of meetings held that involved Miller, Emerson, arch-Islamaphobe Daniel Pipes--and a number of other people we now call "neo-cons." All of these people had strong ties to the right-wing Likud party in Israel. Heck, Miller had even sat in on Israeli "interrogation" sessions of Palestinians; and Emerson provided beds in his Washington apartment to Likud spooks who slipped into the United States to try and undermine peace negotiations.

Keep in mind, it took 9/11 to restore a veneer of credibility to Emerson as an "expert" on terrorism.

Many people, including me, had predicted years ago that terrorism would reach our shores. If we declare we are on the road to inevitable conflict with a culture and religion, and pursue policies that reflect such belligerence, it's likely to happen. (Of course, missing from Miller's, Emerson's and Pipes' breathless predictions about terrorism striking America is the fact that it long ago had. The Islam-haters neglect to notice the thousands of terrorist events in the United States committed by fundamentalist Christians who hate blacks or oppose abortion, not to mention the scores of bombings and murders committed by right-wing Cubans in Miami. Indeed, the only three actual Middle East-related terrorist events in Florida, including an assassination attempt on a former Israeli prime minister, were committed by radical supporters of Israel, not by Arabs or Muslims. But you're not supposed to know that.)...

John Sugg: Judith Miller and Me


Screening must include religion, ethnicity - CNN.com

rigorousintuition.ca - View topic - Rabin's killer interviewed (influenced by right, military)

rigorousintuition.ca - View topic - KWHing gets even more convuluted

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Anti-Muslim crusaders make millions spreading fear | tennessean.com | The Tennessean
First of Two Parts

Steven Emerson has 3,390,000 reasons to fear Muslims.

That's how many dollars Emerson's for-profit company — Washington-based SAE Productions — collected in 2008 for researching alleged ties between American Muslims and overseas terrorism. The payment came from the Investigative Project on Terrorism Foundation, a nonprofit charity Emerson also founded, which solicits money by telling donors they're in imminent danger from Muslims.

Emerson is a leading member of a multimillion-dollar industry of self-proclaimed experts who spread hate toward Muslims in books and movies, on websites and through speaking appearances.

Leaders of the so-called "anti-jihad" movement portray themselves as patriots, defending America against radical Islam. And they've found an eager audience in ultra-conservative Christians and mosque opponents in Middle Tennessee. One national consultant testified in an ongoing lawsuit aimed at stopping a new Murfreesboro mosque.

But beyond the rhetoric, Emerson's organization's tax-exempt status is facing questions at the same time he's accusing Muslim groups of tax improprieties.

"Basically, you have a nonprofit acting as a front organization, and all that money going to a for-profit," said Ken Berger, president of Charity Navigator, a nonprofit watchdog group. "It's wrong. This is off the charts."

But a spokesman for Emerson's company said the actions were legal and designed to protect workers there from death threats.

"It's all done for security reasons," said Ray Locker, a spokesman for SAE Productions.

Emerson made his name in the mid-1990s with his documentary film Jihad in America, which aired on PBS. Produced after the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, the film uncovered terrorists raising money in the United States.

He followed up with the books Jihad Incorporated: A Guide to Militant Islam in the U.S. and American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us...
What's interesting is that USA Today carried this story but has now deleted it along with over 175 comments. Someone with clout didn't like it...

http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2010/ ... lions.html

rigorousintuition.ca - View topic - The Amazing Rita Katz and S.I.T.E.

rigorousintuition.ca - View topic - The CIA/Likud Sinking of Jimmy Carter

rigorousintuition.ca - View topic - Yemenis Not Falling for It

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Now as I type CNN is walking back this story...
General Patton wrote:I'm pretty sure the image of the two guys with backpacks standing in the street was taken after the bomb exploded, I'll see if I can track down the exit data.

Edit: CNN's John King is reporting it's a dark skinned man. The previous FBI alert on the scanners was for a dark skinned male so it lines up.

viewtopic.php?p=498005#p498005

Image@HuffPostMedia: CNN starts walking it back: 'this may look very different in about an hour if we learn that there's been no arrest.'

https://twitter.com/HuffPostMedia/statu ... 8471407618

@billmon1: Zucker: CNN critics "just jealous" http://bit.ly/13iSTXr Wish they John King and Fran Townsend working for THEM.

https://twitter.com/billmon1/status/324593069003513858

@lrozen: Good thing is fran townsend can continue shilling for mek. But why in world would cnn keep her as paid consultant

https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/324593210175389696

@barryap1: CNN: "This individual may be known or unknown."

https://twitter.com/barryap1/status/324594954326384640

@thedailybeast: CBS News now reporting possible suspect is a WHITE MALE-not "dark-skinned" as earlier reported by CNN

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/statu ... 1443908608

@GregMitch: Who is this Juliet fool on CNN?

https://twitter.com/GregMitch/status/324596203771813888

@bustedcoverage: Just when you figure CNN would tell @juliettekayyem to go take a nap, she's back for Jake Tapper's show.

https://twitter.com/bustedcoverage/stat ... 5330573312


@emptywheel: Shorter CNN: We're now going to fearmonger on ricin for an hour, in hopes you'll forget the other terror story we fucked up so badly.

https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/3 ... 8810002432

@Gawker: Jon Stewart goes into CNN for its sloppy Boston bombing coverage

https://twitter.com/Gawker/status/324898358751797248


@billmon1: NY Post: Hey, they look like Arabs, isn't that good enough? MT @mylesnmiller: CBS: these men not suspects cops seek. pic.twitter.com/zq2iMc4d5H
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https://twitter.com/billmon1/status/324922536569749505

@pourmecoffee: @AP What about the Balloon Boy?

https://twitter.com/pourmecoffee/status ... 8307062784
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