FourthBase wrote:Canadian_watcher wrote:FourthBase wrote:Canadian_watcher wrote:I know women who think that because they've taken martial arts they are safe walking home at night.
Uhhh...depending on which martial art and the level of mastery, they very well might be.
But, anyway, what was your point? I don't get it.
without some form of luck (ie the guy attacks her at the top of a set of stairs and she manages to push him down) I cannot imagine this being the case. I can perhaps forgive your ignorance on this because I`ll guess that you've never fought a woman before, let alone fought one while you were determined, engraged and filled with destructive adrenaline fueled urges.
My point is that your post up there was pretty much a blustery chest thump "Òh yeah cops, come and get me!" It only works that way under certain circumstances. Honestly, you need to have a run in with the cops where you've done nothing to deserve their treatment. it'll change your mind on ALL of this, I guarantee it.
I think you are severely underestimating what mastery of certain martial arts can do for a woman.
I've had cops take me away in conjunction with whitecoats, and I did not deserve it. I went peacefully. I chatted them up. I demonstrated my sanity. I resented the whole situation no less. What am I supposed to do? Seek revenge? This is it, then. Seeking and spreading taboo truths. So, yeah: "Come and get me, cops." I'm guilty of nothing. Anything unjust done to me will backfire on them culturally, legally. They would have to kidnap me secretly and send me to a black prison in Dubai or whatever, create some cover where I spontaneously decided to walk the earth, occasionally sending tweets on my adventures. Because anything else -- murder or disappearance or harassment or battery or legal persecution -- would simply expose their agenda. If you're the guy who every day calls the local police chief a corrupt monster, and after a while that local police chief gets sick of it and has you arrested, beaten, tortured, jailed, disappeared, and/or killed, then the local police chief has merely confirmed the accusations you were making against him that he wanted to dispel in the first place. It's a no-win position for
them, in almost every iteration, as long as the object of persecution
realizes it, and perseveres long enough to turn the tables. Turning the legal table, suing the bastards, which is still quite possible, because, believe it or not, this is still a nation of laws, and if it weren't then why would the creeps ever bother trying to rig things? Turning the journalistic table, discovering and revealing as publicly as possible every suspicious and unsavory thing about your persecutors, which is a big part of what this board does. Turning the cultural table, in the sense of becoming a pressure-building cause celebre. (Although one wonders how much support a non-violent hero would get from the left...would non-violence be sexy enough, macho enough to the contemporary left? It had better fucking be.) Point is, yes, the cops have license to traumatize us. Yes, the system is rigged to prevent such cops from being held accountable. But bad cops like that and the bad system in general are still vulnerable, vulnerable to the law if you can make a flawless case, vulnerable to the truth if you can get people to hear it and it's not spoiled by any other conscious or unconscious biases, vulnerable to The People if enough of them complain loudly enough and assemble in large enough groups, merely assemble, that's it, just show up, no impotent discharge of violent impulses, no indulgence of narcissism, just showing up, and asking "
Why? Okay,
why? Okay...
why? Okay. But.
WHY?" This applies to me, you, everyone here, everyone at OWS, everyone at MoveOn, everyone in the marginalized authentic corner of The Tea Party, everyone who fellates Ron Paul, everyone in the ghetto, everyone in the trailer parks, everyone who works, everyone who can't, everyone, everyone, everyone. No one should ever have to walk alone. No one should ever have to endure abuse and oppression and then fear, "What if no one sticks up for me? What if no one even listens? What if this outrage is never exposed? What if these bastards are never penalized and stripped of their authority? What if it's just...hopeless?" No. That should never have to be feared. But, well, it kind of sucks if the good people who would otherwise have your back are already gloomily resigned to an ultimate worst case scenario and so no longer can muster the faintest vapor of hope as fuel for the courage to do something clever or at least say something bold or even just
think of a way to defy victimhood. Fuck being glum and passive and hopeless. Stand up to bullies in a way that undoes bullying itself. Fear not.
