Crisis Actors? Post your info & WTF moments here

[Simulist]

well, we're about as free to discuss certain things on RI as the guy in the below video is to hold the opinions that he holds:

The only "certain things" we're asked to avoid at RI are so blatantly, pathetically dumb (Holocaust denial, no planes 9/11 theory, etc.) and poisonous to discussion ("Yer an agent!") no intelligent person would want advocate in favor of them anyway.

What are you talking about?

[FourthBase]

"Waaahhhh, I can't proclaim with unjustifiable uncertainty suspect theories or unfounded fears without having someone challenge me to provide better evidence or remind me to at least not be so unjustifiably certain! Waaahhhh! Help! I'm being suppressed! I'm not free to abdicate my capacity for critical thinking without being called out on it! This isn't the RI board I used to know, the echo chamber of one particular attitude which never actually existed because it's a place for discussion not just agreeable hugs between the doomed! Booooooo! People have the nerve to disagree with me and then have the gall to be upset when I accuse them of merely being upset because someone disagreed with them! Waaaahhhh!"

[Canadian_watcher]

It suddenly occurred to me that I don't need to explain this or describe it at all - the people who have been shouted down and bullied and shut-up for their ideas already know what I'm talking about and the rest of you either do or don't but will refuse to admit to it either way.

so... yeah. that's all I've got to say about it.

edit to encompass the 4th Grader who just walked in clutching himself through his pants.
I would add to the list of things we can't discuss: things we can't discuss.

[Simulist]

It suddenly occurred to me that I don't need to explain this or describe it at all - the people who have been shouted down and bullied and shut-up for their ideas already know what I'm talking about and the rest of you either do or don't but will refuse to admit to it either way.

so... yeah. that's all I've got to say about it.

edit to encompass the 4th Grader who just walked in clutching himself through his pants.
I would add to the list of things we can't discuss: things we can't discuss.

[FourthBase]

It suddenly occurred to me that I don't need to explain this or describe it at all - the people who have been shouted down and bullied and shut-up for their ideas already know what I'm talking about and the rest of you either do or don't but will refuse to admit to it either way.

so... yeah. that's all I've got to say about it.

edit to encompass the 4th Grader who just walked in clutching himself through his pants.
I would add to the list of things we can't discuss: things we can't discuss.

Oh my god, hahahahaha: We're discussing it.
You're just not getting your way, the intellectually-irresponsible way.
Tough shit. Shouted down, bullied, and shut up: My ass.
More like: Challenged, questioned, and proven wrong.

As for anyone who now feels less free to be a doom-and-hoax-mongerer: Good.
You don't need to explain it, you're right. You seem to think the board is divided into cliques.
You may be right about that, too. Guess which clique you belong to?
Hint: It isn't the clique composed of the board's best minds.
So, yes, everyone, gather 'round, and behold.

[barracuda]

This is RI, where suppression means you can say anything you want, and bullying is when someone doesn't post a little hug emoticon after you say it.

[compared2what?]

well, we're about as free to discuss certain things on RI as the guy in the below video is to hold the opinions that he holds:

I just can't accept that coming to the attention of the public in itself constitutes sufficient grounds for suspicion that airing them on that basis is in the public interest. Or conceivably could be. Even for you, Canadian_watcher. And that's not because I don't want you to be free. I root the other way.

[compared2what?]

Feel free, and all that. But there's no call for that, imo.

Canadian_watcher fights for what she believes in and takes it seriously. Do you want or expect her not to have feelings about it?

[FourthBase]

Feel free, and all that. But there's no call for that, imo.

Canadian_watcher fights for what she believes in and takes it seriously. Do you want or expect her not to have feelings about it?

Feelings are great. Gooooo, feelings! I'm not a big fan of unreasonable feelings.
I'm even less of a fan of unreasonable feelings with an unfair negative thrust toward me.

[compared2what?]

I'm even less of a fan of unreasonable feelings with an unfair negative thrust toward me.

And expressing that by kicking people when they're feeling down helps how, exactly?

Honestly. You might as well take your causes-for-war from Colin Powell as do that, too.

[8bitagent]

Wait a second, I don't think anyone here is advocating the laughingly wtf notion that the blast victims were actors.

For the numbskulls out in youtube land saying that awful stuff, here's a couple people they can ask

[conniption]

twelfth bough

more stupid questions

UPDATE: 4/26/13

Living very near Boston, we have heard and read many things over the past few days. Things which do not add up. News from people we know about people in the hospital with serious injuries. And yet, we cannot find any videos or photos from the incident -- thus far -- to indicate where these other people were located at the time of the explosions.

Given that the goal of the social engineers is to divide society, we see their hand at work. We understand they don't care about killing and maiming people, as obviously they do that all the time. But dividing society is another issue. They really want to divide the people in America. That's where the social engineers have had to get extra creative. Just killing Americans with Muslim terrorist brothers is more of a uniting thing for many Americans, and they don't want us united. In order to make it a Win Win Divide Bonanza, they have to do something a little different. Maybe throw in some fake perps, shopped photos, real photos, fake victims, real victims, the first bomb, the second bomb... and so on. Mix it all together. Hide things that would clear up confusion. Make it so everyone can see whatever they want to see. Make it chaos.

It is quite diabolical. It allows for half truths, and mistakes, and instances of human error, both genuine and phony, to come into play. It facilitates a lot of disagreements and diversions about technical issues, and moral issues, and logic.

Does it matter if people died and were maimed, or not? How could it not matter? To our mind, it makes all the difference in the world. For one thing it's the difference between life and death -- always important. For another thing it's the difference between truth and lies -- also always important. We don't like being lied to. So it matters to us.

To anyone who thinks it doesn't matter whether people died or not, we suggest you go ahead into the next barroom and announce that you think it was all fake, and see what happens. You'll see that it matters very much to people, and that you are now a social outcast, and probably dangerous and crazy as well.

We understand the nuance that the social engineers don't personally give a shit whether people die or not, but everything they do is to manipulate the audience. It's not important what they think, because we already know what they think. It's more important to understand what they want us to think. And they understand that we are already divided, which they worked very hard at, and now they want to drive the final wedge in there and break off the dangerous piece and send us off to die like a polar bear trapped on a chunk of ice in a global warming sea of doom. And that is why, instead of simply killing people straight out, they make everything lately into an extra-complicated mindfuck, followed in a few days by a fresh one.

So is it worth reviewing the "performance" to tease apart the real from the fake? Well it certainly is not easy, and it may be a waste of time in the end, but yes of course it is worth doing. The truth is always worth pursuing.

We appreciate all the comments to this post, especially from my dear friend James, who has never failed to support me in trying to understand the events around us.

Comments are closed.

~ Peasant

[FourthBase]

Wait a second, I don't think anyone here is advocating the laughingly wtf notion that the blast victims were actors.

For the numbskulls out in youtube land saying that awful stuff, here's a couple people they can ask

There's at least one person here who is "pretty damn close to being pretty damn sure", yaddayadda.

[Canadian_watcher]

Wait a second, I don't think anyone here is advocating the laughingly wtf notion that the blast victims were actors.

For the numbskulls out in youtube land saying that awful stuff, here's a couple people they can ask

There's at least one person here who is "pretty damn close to being pretty damn sure", yaddayadda.

you had better not be referring to me -
your habit of attributing ideas to me and others is absolutely rotten.

[FourthBase]

Attributing? No, it's interpreting.

But, no. Not you.