Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby compared2what? » Wed May 01, 2013 5:24 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:
"Chinese Danny" because the fact that English is not his native language is a major plot-point in the B-movie he's cast in.


It's not so major that you have to repeat it in every sentence whether it's relevant or not. (ON EDIT: It's also not so unusual to be a non-native speaker of English in the United States that it merits what-are-the-odds astonishment that three of them might encounter each other in a large American city. More to the point. Kinda makes him an exotic oriental.)

"Joker" because Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's pre-ordained role in this B-movie is to play an absurd fictional cartoon villain.


Obviously, from the perspective of someone who doesn't give a fuck that it's also probably "Dzhokhar" because of Dzhokhar Dudaev, since who on earth really cares about that?

It''s not like we're talking about anything related to Chechnya, after all. So it doesn't diminish the names associated with political independence there at all to make those associations secondary to the ones we have with comic-book characters.

What could I possibly have been thinking?

Carry on, as you were.

(Don't blame me. I didn't write the script for this crap, nor did I cast any of them.)


I don't blame you. Or judge you. I just thought you were going a little farther than you realized. Because I know you're not about that stuff, politically or personally. No offense intended.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby Hunter » Wed May 01, 2013 5:37 pm

If you want to prove a conspiracy you have to show a reason how this benefits them, there are several I can think of like domestic drone use, possibly more control over internet etc but the problem is there seem to be far easier ways to do that than a crude bombing Boston but what the hell do I know.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed May 01, 2013 5:37 pm

compared2what? wrote: someone who doesn't give a fuck


compared2what? wrote:I don't blame you. Or judge you


Ah well.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby compared2what? » Wed May 01, 2013 5:44 pm

Alchemy wrote:They are just lining up witnesses to testify against these guys one way or another. These kids will be threatened with OOJ charges unless they testify that the two brothers prayed five times a day and read the koran.

"Yes sir thats correct we saw them pray five times a day and they always read that jihad book, whats it called again, oh yes the Koran."


The two from Kazakhstan probably know what it's called. It's a 70 percent Islamic country.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby compared2what? » Wed May 01, 2013 5:52 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:Dzhokhar Tsarnaev will never be seen by anyone again, least of all in a court of law*. And there is no good reason to accept without proof Mr. Source's assertions that the boy is actually in FBI custody, capable of communicating in any way, or even still alive.

*Pastel portraits may, of course, "emerge".


What would you accept as proof, in the event that he did appear in a court of law?

Joker


Super-cute. Real testament to your feeling for him.


ON EDIT: Sorry. Bad tempered ill judgment on my part. Out of line, too. I apologize.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby compared2what? » Wed May 01, 2013 5:54 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:
compared2what? wrote: someone who doesn't give a fuck


compared2what? wrote:I don't blame you. Or judge you


Ah well.


Rhetorical. I know you do give a fuck for him and that your feelings are sincere. My point, rhetorically, was that it read like you didn't give a fuck. Which I know is not what you're about.

You can quote that selectively if doing it avails you something. But it's what I really mean.

ON EDIT: But it's just my opinion. I'm not going to persecute you or anyone else for disagreeing with or disregarding it.

Keep doing it if it works for you. By all means.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed May 01, 2013 6:05 pm

I am apparently expected to ignore the fact that -- according to the reviews -- a carjacked native speaker of Chinese is instructed by the EVIL RUTHLESS native Chechen carjacker, at gunpoint, to conduct a phone conversation in English with a native speaker of Chinese while that Chechen drops essential information in English about an impending terror plot in New York during a conversation in Russian with his own Chechen brother. The whole damn thing is a junk movie. Hence "Joker". Hence "Chinese 'Danny'".

Again: I didn't script this crap, nor did I inflict it on the planet. Nor am I one of the many who are confusing this movie with something more plausible, such as (say) reality, or maybe The Hobbit.

But to set your mind at rest: I meant absolutely no disrespect to the Chinese people per se, the Chechen people per se, the Russian people per se, the English people per se, nor even to the fine and unimpeachable Irish boyos of the Boston police force and the FBI, per se. May the road rise with them all, to be sure.

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MacCruiskeen wrote:"Chinese Danny" because the fact that English is not his native language is a major plot-point in the B-movie he's cast in.


It's not so major that you have to repeat it in every sentence whether it's relevant or not.


Nor did I. Nor do I. Only when it's relevant.

It's also not so unusual to be a non-native speaker of English in the United States that it merits what-are-the-odds astonishment that three of them might encounter each other in a large American city. More to the point. Kinda makes him an exotic oriental.


Please. You do know that that is not my point.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby 82_28 » Wed May 01, 2013 6:09 pm

Alchemy wrote:If you want to prove a conspiracy you have to show a reason how this benefits them, there are several I can think of like domestic drone use, possibly more control over internet etc but the problem is there seem to be far easier ways to do that than a crude bombing Boston but what the hell do I know.


I have no idea either. However, we saw the immediate outcome and that was a city put under more or less "lockdown" and it was gotten away with with very little protest taking into account such "minor" effects to the rest of the populace insofar as economy and realistic psychological effects of being told what to do. But I agree, what the hell do I know?

One thing I was thinking earlier is that wasn't Boston that day filled up with far more people that don't live there than normal? What did they do? I assume many had hotel rooms in the vicinity, but I assume many more were staying outside of the vicinity of the "lockdown". How would the authorities have been able to track down all of the fleeing people all at once? Was that the "simple" reason for the lockdown? What is the parking, staging, crowd control like in an already crowded city like Boston when the marathon is going down? Why the finish line as opposed to the probably more crowded starting line if one wanted to inflict the most damage and carnage? Why the spectators and not the athletes?

Another thing is that it was likely more possible to pull this off as a "false flag" because doubtless many streets were already cut off. OR it was easier to lock the city down because many roadblocks and such were already in place.

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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby FourthBase » Wed May 01, 2013 6:17 pm

Alchemy wrote:That is a case where voting matters, you might rightfully argue that it doesnt matter at the presidental or congressional level and it is all fixed but I do think it still matters when we elect judges and those are people in a position to make a real difference like we see here, again not to protect the bomber even though he should be protected by the same rights any other citizen is, but to protect all of us from being taken advantage of by the authorities.


Note the state.
At the risk of sounding chauvinistic...
At the risk of seeming to exonerate every official in the state, because no way...
Wrong state to fuck with.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby FourthBase » Wed May 01, 2013 6:20 pm

stillrobertpaulsen wrote:
FourthBase wrote:
stillrobertpaulsen wrote: Today's arrests are an extension of the carrot to Russia, in hopes of quid pro quo where Syria is concerned.


Declared with excessive certainty, but: Good theory.
Let's keep digging. Keep theorizing, too. Balls, air. Many trees.


Excellent point. "Seems to be an extension of the carrot..." would be more appropriate. I'm trying to remain agnostic about really putting all the hypotheticals into a well-baked theory. This seems like a good motive. I'm not suggesting President Obomba is spearheading a conspiracy. I'm not saying for a fact that he isn't. What could be happening is with the National Security State Apparatus lining all the ducks in a row, this is the most expedient card to play. As Ruppert said in Crossing the Rubicon, "When a flock of birds suddenly changes direction, simultaneously and uniformly, is it a conspiracy? Or is it just an instant recognition by every member of the flock where their collective interests lie?" My answer, "Reserve judgment. But be sure to get the names of every fucking bird!"

As far as "Danny" goes, we have seen, not including eyewitness accounts like the literally race-blind gas station attendant, a glaring inconsistency in his account as far as originally stating that both Tsarnaevs had "left the car", now we have Tamerlan attempting to grab him. But I can't say for certain just what he's really all about. If "Danny" is an intelligence recruit, how the hell do you pitch someone like this?



Just a thought:

What kind of Asian-looking dude could maybe be mistaken at first as white?
Hmmm. Perhaps...an Asian-looking dude from central Asia, like the roommates?
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby hiddenite » Wed May 01, 2013 6:21 pm

Why does American culture dehumanize with such relish ? Sorry, that is apropos of the last few pages and my despair after reading right wing commentators anticipating the hell/rape of the younger Tsarnaev brother. By commentators I mean journos and allied trades. I don't expect a response I just wanted it minuted .
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby compared2what? » Wed May 01, 2013 6:27 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:But to set your mind at rest: I meant absolutely no disrespect to the Chinese people per se, the Chechen people per se, the Russian people per se, the English people per se, nor even to the fine and unimpeachable Irish boyos of the Boston police force and the FBI, per se. May the road rise with them all, to be sure.


My mind is at rest. And...


It's also not so unusual to be a non-native speaker of English in the United States that it merits what-are-the-odds astonishment that three of them might encounter each other in a large American city. More to the point. Kinda makes him an exotic oriental.


Please. You do know that that is not my point.


...yes, I do. It's not about you/me, from my perspective. I just thought....Look. If I was literally the boss of you*** -- meaning, like, "editor," or whatever -- I wouldn't ask that you change a word. But I'd bring it to your attention in terms that plainly indicated what I saw as the problem with how it read. Same as I did. Because I'd assume that you wouldn't want your words to read that way. Same as I also did.

After that, it would be your voice, your call. Same as it is.

I'm sorry if that was a mistake. And I'm happy to drop it.

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ON EDIT: Meaning, I wouldn't feel it merited telling you what to do even if I were in a position to do that, which I'm not. No reason for you to regard my opinion as meaning anything, therefore. I wouldn't claim otherwise.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby FourthBase » Wed May 01, 2013 6:31 pm

What I'm dreading is the possibility of a Fort Devens doctor breaking the news to the media that, woops, Tsarnaev found a way to kill himself, sorry folks, no trial. Because if there's a trial, a few things among many will need to be entered into the record. 1. The crisp video hopefully-undoctored of #2 at the moment he drops the backpack. (The backpack with the white square identical to the Guard/Craft backpack.) 2. The identity of "Danny", whoever he is. 3. The co-habitation of Uncle Tsarni and Graham Fuller, if the defense attorney is competent and not in-the-bag. Many more, but those three stand out, so far, as things that might cause problems in a trial, problems for the real masterminds, that is, whoever they are. Then again, a trial could just be avoided by a plea bargain. Which would fucking suck. How many of #2's immediate family are lawyers? Any licensed to practice in the US? Any who are...are they trustworthy, would they be acting in Tsarnaev the Younger's interests? Or maybe he was sold out by someone in his family?
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Wed May 01, 2013 6:40 pm

Here's the latest from Dave Lindorff yesterday. Haven't seen it posted yet upthread, so here it is:

Two degrees of separation:
Tsarnaev Brothers had a CIA Connection

Tue, 04/30/2013 - 14:29
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Dave Lindorff



Let’s do a little exercise. Forget nationalities and identities for a moment.

Imagine you are a police detective investigating a horrific bombing in your city -- one in which several people were killed and hundreds were injured. You have a captured suspect whom you are sure was one of the bombers, and another was killed in a shootout, but both are young and not very sophisticated.

They might have acted alone, of course, but knowing how these things work, you are also looking for leads to try to determine who else might have been involved, and especially who might have been behind the incident.

As it happens, your two suspects are immigrants. They were brought to your country at a young age by parents who were refugees seeking asylum from from a region of the world riven by civil war, brutal repression by a larger power, and that was a breeding ground for terrorists who had been known to have launched terrible attacks against civilians, including schools and full movie theaters in that larger power.

Now supposing you discovered that the national intelligence agency of a rival nation to that larger power had actually provided support to the terrorists that were attacking it, and that, moreover, the two young men who were your suspects were related to an uncle who had for three years been married to the daughter of a top member of that intelligence agency -- the latter a man who had had a long history of active involvement in that agency’s major covert operations.

Wouldn’t you be deeply suspicious about the nature of the connections between the two young men and this intelligence agency? Of course you would!

Well, let’s put some names to this scenario.

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Two Degrees of Separation? (From left: ex-CIA spook Graham Fuller, his daugter Samantha, his former son-in-law Ruslan Tsarni, anTwo Degrees of Separation? (From left: ex-CIA spook Graham Fuller, his daugter Samantha, his former son-in-law Ruslan Tsarni, and Tsarni nephew Tamerlan Tsarnaev (deceased)

The troubled region in question is Chechnya, a region of the former Soviet Union which sought independence from Russia after the collapse of the USSR. The Russian state crushed that secession effort with incredible violence, but found itself still fighting a long and vicious guerrilla conflict against Chechen fighters who didn’t hesitate to take their battle to the Russian heartland in the form of terror strikes. The Chechen guerrillas were supported by the CIA as the US adopted a covert policy of backing efforts by former regions of the old USSR to break free of Russia.

Just as the US long covertly supported terrorist actions by right-wing Cuban groups inside Cuba, and as it currently supports terrorist activities inside another rival state, Iran, by a terrorist organization called MEK (for People's Mujahedin of Iran or the Mojahedin-e-Khalq), it has also supported the guerrillas in Chechnya. This explains why former federal prosecutor and arch neocon Republican Rudi Guiliani found himself sputtering in disbelief in a CBS interview a few days after the Boston Marathon bombing as it became evident that the suspected Boston bombers were two young Chechens.

As former FBI official Coleen Rowley observes, “I almost choked on my coffee listening to neoconservative Rudy Giuliani pompously claim on national TV that he was surprised about any Chechens being responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings because he’s never seen any indication that Chechen extremists harbored animosity toward the U.S.; Guiliani thought they were only focused on Russia.”

She said, “Giuliani knows full well how the Chechen ‘terrorists’ proved useful to the U.S. in keeping pressure on the Russians, much as the Afghan mujahedeen were used in the anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan from 1980 to 1989. In fact, many neocons signed up as Chechnya’s ‘friends,’ including former CIA Director James Woolsey.”

Now it turns out that the two young men suspected of having placed the exploding pressure-cooker bombs at the finish line of the marathon, the slain Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, and his imprisoned younger brother, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, have an uncle, Ruslan Tsarni (he changed his name from Tsarnaev after immigrating to the US), who was until 1999 married to Samantha Ankara Fuller, daughter of a high-ranking CIA operations officer named Graham Fuller. (Fuller, who has called any suggestion of links between his former son-in-law and the CIA “absurd” retired from the Agency and went to work with the Rand Corp., where he focused on the Middle East.).

Fuller, reportedly at one time a CIA station chief in Kabul, Afghanistan, also worked over the years as an operations officer in such intelligence hotspots as Turkey, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, as well as Hong Kong.

Uncle Ruslan at one point during his marriage to Fuller’s daughter, was running a curious organization called the Congress of Chechen International Organizations which listed as its address Fuller’s home in Rockville, MD, a Washington DC suburb. (The CCIO ostensibly provided charity aid to Chechnya, though the true nature of that "aid" was probably something else.) Tsarni, in the organization’s Maryland registration document, listed its activity very generically (and uninformatively) as “ordinary business.” It appears that Ruslan Tsarni also, during the 1990s, reportedly worked as a consultant in Kazakhstan, another former Soviet republic, for US AID, an organization that has often served to provide cover for CIA operatives.

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Maryland company registration for Ruslan Tsarni 'company' located at CIA honcho Graham Fuller's home

Now I know that the world is full of coincidences, but then this is no matter of six degrees of separation. This “coincidence” puts the two Tsarnaev brothers at just two degrees of separation from the CIA household of Graham Fuller.

Going back to our imaginary police detective, I should think this would have to raise suspicions about links between the Tsarnaev brothers and the CIA.

The most charitable theory, to me, would be that this Boston bombing may have been a particularly nasty example of blowback. Certainly there is reason to look carefully at the possibility of some US effort having been made to recruit at least Tamerlan, the older Tsarnaev brother, to work against Russia -- an effort that might then have backfired if he later turned against his American “handlers” for some reason, such as, perhaps, the ant-immigrant policy of the Golden Gloves organization which suddenly changed its rules about allowing legal immigrants to participate in the boxing contest, preventing him from having a second shot at the national title, or the INS, which blocked his efforts to obtain citizenship over an arrest (no conviction) for once allegedly slapping his girlfriend.

There are, of course, also darker possibilities, which an honest and thorough investigator would want to follow. A key would be knowing what if any contacts there were between either of the Tsarnaev brothers and the CIA.

As I have written earlier, there remains the bizarre presence at the marathon finish line, before and after the bombing, of men who appear to have been working for the Texas-based private mercenary firm Craft International.

US mercenary firms like Xe (formerly Blackwater) and Craft International have a close and incestuous relationship to the CIA. Such organizations tend to recruit their personnel from the ranks of US and foreign special forces units, which both tend to have close links to the CIA. Craft International, in particular, which was founded n 2009 by the late US Navy SEAL unit member Chris Kyle, reportedly has a number of SEAL veterans in its ranks. The CIA has increasingly relied on Navy SEALs for its covert special operations actions, most notably the assault in Pakistan on the hideout of Osama Bin Laden.

While the CIA is not supposed to engage in covert activities within the United States, its tight relationship with a para-military organization like Craft International means that the Agency could do the same thing indirectly by relying on a private contractor like Craft, which would not face the same legal restrictions. Indeed, for all we know, Craft could be simply a dummy CIA front, like Air America was during the Vietnam War era. In that regard, it is interesting that the address listed for Craft International in a Business Week listing (2101 Cedar Springs Rd., Suite 1400, Dallas, TX), is the same address given for at least four other businesses, including Hayman Capital Management, LLC, a hedgefund firm headed by a J. Kyle Bass, Japan Macro Opportunities Off-Shore Partners, a Cayman Islands-incorporated firm, a Bruce Davis, listed as “registered agent” for a firm called Solidus Bancshares, Inc., and HW GP, LLC, business unclear -- suggesting that the location may be more of a “drop-box” kind of office than a functional business operation address. That would point to the possibility of a dummy corporation or front company.

I don’t have any specific information that would allow me to suggest that the CIA had anything to do with the Boston bombing. I cannot say the same thing about Craft International, however. Certainly there is some very troubling evidence in photos, visible on our site, showing some disturbing similarities between the markings on an exploded backpack which the FBI says contained one of the two pressure-cooker bombs and the backpacks being worn by the Craft International personnel photographed at the marathon finish line.

Our hypothetical police investigator would certainly want to look into these potential connections, as well as the suggestion of a possible link between the Tsarnaev brothers and their CIA-linked Uncle Ruslan. A good start would be to check into Uncle Ruslan’s actual historical relationship with his two nephews. Ruslan Tsarni was quick to go to the media to denounce his young kinsmen as “losers” who had “brought shame” on all Chechens, and to try and separate himself from them. But he was not always so deprecating of the children of his own brother, Anzar Tsarnaev (who is in Dagestan, where he vigorously denies his children’s guilt). In fact, Tsarni himself says it was Tamerlan’s relatively recent reported turn to Islam which led him to cut himself off from his nephew. What their relationship was prior to that is not clear and certainly bears scrutiny.

Not that I’m expecting some detective to look into all this.

The FBI, for its part, cannot be trusted here. It’s quite possible, after all, that at least Tamerlan Tsarnaev was set up by a Bureau provocateur in a plot that was meant, like many before it, to be “disrupted” by the FBI but that spiraled out of control (or got taken in a new direction by another agency?). And the Boston Police, meanwhile, have been so wrapped up in their exciting manhunt, and their “lockdown” of an entire city, that they are unlikely to want to ask probing questions about why this bombing happened. They're too busy basking in uncritical applause from local Bostonians.

As for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, he has already endured an unconstitutional 16-hour interrogation by the FBI’s crack interrogation team, the so-called High Value Detainee Interrogation Group, all of it conducted while he was hospitalized in serious condition, sedated and chained to his bed, and despite having his repeated requests for an attorney blatantly denied. He has now furthermore been arraigned for the capital crime of terrorism with a “weapon of mass destruction” for his alleged role in the bombing. Given all this, he is unlikely to tell his real story, at least for public consumption. More likely, he and his legal team will prefer to try and cut some kind of a deal, saying in open court whatever is demanded by prosecutors, in order to have the death penalty taken off the table.

So we’re left to wonder: why would two intelligent and talented young men with no particular grievances against the United States or the Americans among whom they lived much or most of their lives, have decided to blow up and kill and maim a bunch of mostly young people like themselves in an event that had no political significance?

There are leaked reports that Dzhokhar, during his FBI interrogation, said he and his brother had been “angry with the US about the Iraq and Afghan wars,” but even if he really did say what the FBI is leaking that he said, there has been nothing reported about their prior histories suggesting that either brother had been particularly exercised about those two actions -- no reports for example that Dzhokhar or Tamerlan had ever participated in even one of the anti-war demonstrations which have been commonplace in liberal Boston, or attended the Occupy actions in that city. In fact, if anything, Tamerlan, allegedly the dominant figure of the pair, to the extent that he had been political at all, had seemingly been more focused on the suffering of his native Chechens and fellow Muslims in Russia, which would make an attack on the US a peculiar turn indeed.

Look, I said before I’m not a conspiracy theory fan, and maybe this bombing in Boston was just a case of two angry young brothers who flipped out, egged each other on, and decided to go out with a bang. But it would be naive and irresponsible not to make note of these bizarre links, through their Uncle Ruslan Tsarni, of the Tsarnaev brothers to the CIA, and of the apparent presence of the Craft International personnel at the marathon finish line, not to mention the uncanny similarity in attire between Tamerlan Tsarnaev and the Craft mercenaries at the marathon bombing scene. (Besides, my late father, a retired electrical engineer and a Jungian analyst, used to say that many seeming coincidences are actually synchronicities, and can have much more meaning than simply being a highly improbable accident.) Also begging an answer is the question of where the two brothers, neither of whom had obvious access to wealth, got the money to spend on fancy clothes or, in the case of Tamerlan (who with his wife and small daughter, on the basis of his publicly available information, qualified until this year for welfare assistance), owned a late model Mercedes-Benz sedan.

These issues demand our attention because our increasingly national security obsessed government has been using each tragedy like this to further curtail our freedoms. We have to pay attention all the more because none of this is being investigated or even reported on at all by the corporate media, which seem content to just report on official statements and leaks and call it a day's work well done.


Good to see another source verify the CCIO link, though I wish we could also see further verification of Uncle Ruslan's Halliburton creds. I also wish some intrepid reporter could corroborate the Wayne Madsen story about the other Tsarnaev uncle connected with Zbigniew Brzezinski through the United States-Chechen Republic Alliance Inc.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby FourthBase » Wed May 01, 2013 7:44 pm

Here's that UMass/Dartmouth dude I mentioned, vaguely interesting background.

http://www.yatedo.com/p/Raja+Nageswaran ... 420af91924

PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE
N/A
Cultural Coordinator - Dharmsinh Desai University
Cultural Committee
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Student Mentor - Dharmsinh Desai University
Selection and training of NCC(National Cadet Corps) cadets.
EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND
N/A - 2014
MBA - University of Massachusetts Dartmouth (go)
North Dartmouth, United States
N/A - 2011
Bhaskaracharya Institute For Space Applications and Geo-Informatics
N/A - 2011
Dharmsinh Desai University(DDU) (go)
Nadiad, India


No idea what that means.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/0 ... story.html

(Interesting items in the menu of Metro stories, lmao)

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Bombing suspect spent Wednesday as typical student

By Sarah Coffey, Patricia Wen and Matt Carroll | GLOBE CORRESPONDENT | GLOBE STAFF APRIL 19, 2013

UMass-Dartmouth students stood on Friday outside the Pine Dale Hall dormitory, where Dzhokhar Tsarnaev live.

DARTMOUTH — Dzhokhar Tsarnaev spent an apparently normal day Wednesday at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, where he was a sophomore, according to a school official, working out in the gym, then sleeping in his dorm room that night, while law enforcement officials frantically scanned photos trying to identify the men who planted deadly bombs at the Boston Marathon on Monday.

Card swipes told officials that Tsarnaev, described as a good and typical student who played intramural soccer, was on campus Wednesday, but it was not clear if he had been there earlier in the week.

A student, who did not want to be identified, also said she saw Tsarnaev at a party on Wednesday night that was attended by some of his soccer friends.

“He was just relaxed,” she said.

Tsarnaev, 19, was the subject of an intense manhunt until he was cornered and captured in a backyard in Watertown on Friday evening. His brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was killed early Friday morning in a shootout with police.

In a phone interview Friday morning, Pamala Rolon, 22, a UMass Dartmouth senior and a resident assistant at the Pine Dale Hall dorms, where Tsarnaev lived, said she has known him for a year and finds the notion that he played any role in the bombing incredible.

“He studied. He hung out with me and my friends,” she said. “I’m in shock.”

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had done well academically in high school, but The New York Times reported that he was failing many of his courses at UMass Dartmouth. The Times said a school transcript showed seven failing grades over two semesters in 2012 and 2013, including Fs in Principles of Modern Chemistry, Intro American Politics, and Chemistry and the Environment. According to the transcript, Tsarnaev got a B in Critical Writing and a D and D-plus in two other courses.

The UMass Dartmouth campus in the southeastern part of the state closed early Friday morning after school officials realized the younger of the two men authorities said were responsible for the Monday bombing was a student there.

The campus remained on lockdown throughout the day, with armed police blocking the main entrance. The shutdown was staggered — first the suspect’s dorm, and then the entire campus. Students living on campus were evacuated to Dartmouth High School.

On its website Friday, the school posted a stark message: “UMass Dartmouth has learned that a person being sought in connection with the Boston Marathon bombing has been identified as a student registered at UMass Dartmouth. The campus is closed. Individuals on campus should shelter in place unless instructed otherwise.”

During the lockdown, three black helicopters landed at the main entrance early in the afternoon, carrying about a dozen armed police officers who ran onto campus. Two U-Haul trucks arrived a short time later and drove onto campus; three U-Hauls had arrived earlier. Around 3:30 p.m., 11 State Police cruisers with lights flashing raced through the main campus entrance, followed by SUVs carrying personnel wearing military fatigues.

A handful of students milled about the front entrance, watching police come and go.

Rolon said when she returned from class Thursday afternoon, she and her friends watched a television news broadcast showing the images of the suspects, including one she thought looked faintly like Tsarnaev.

“We made a joke like — that could be Dzhokhar,” she said. “But then we thought it just couldn’t be him. Dzhokhar? Never.”

Tsarnaev was quite studious, she said. He had not been seen on campus during the past two weeks, she said, but she did not think much about it because everyone was busy with tests and studying.

Rolon said she finds it impossible to believe he was involved in any zealous religious or political cause, or would turn to violence.

“I think he’s Muslim, but not so religious,” she said. “He’s a normal city kid.”

She also said that Tsarnaev, an ethnic Chechen who came to the United States with his family from Kyrgyzstan, a former Soviet republic in Central Asia, did not talk about Russian or international politics.

“He never said anything about Russia versus the United States,” she said.

She said Tsarnaev dressed typically in sweaters and jeans and fit in easily on campus. He spoke English with barely a trace of an accent. He had a roommate, she said, but she declined to give the student’s name. Rolon said she never met his family.

Chris Baratta, 22, a senior nursing student from Acton, lives across the street from campus. He played intramural soccer against Tsarnaev last year, but said nothing unusual stood out about him.

“You just sign up and make your own team, and whoever plays, plays,” he said.

He said friends of his smoked marijuana with Tsarnaev, but nothing stood out about the student.

Katie Horan, a sophomore at UMass Dartmouth who lives in Tsarnaev’s dorm, said the alarm went off around 7:45 a.m. telling everyone in the building to evacuate.

“What’s going on?” she said as the students emptied the building, unsure of why they had to leave.

She said two hours later, school officials announced a total campus evacuation; they learned officially that it was because a student was linked to the Marathon bombing.

Another student, Raja Nageswaran, 25, said Tsarnaev attended a gathering last fall at his home. No one who lived at the home had invited Tsarnaev and three friends who came to the gathering, he said.

“He was pretty social,” Nageswaran said. “He was pretty liked by most of the people.”

Nageswaran’s roommate, Emily DeInnocentis, 23, said Tsarnaev stood out to her because of some odd behavior, like spreading messy string cheese all over her couch, and picking up her cat and carrying it upstairs for no reason.

“We just didn’t invite him over after that. How many people just pick up your cat and go upstairs?” she said.

Globe Correspondent Zachary T. Sampson contributed to this report. Sarah Coffey can be reached at srmcoffey@yahoo.com. Patricia Wen can be reached at wen@globe.com. Matt Carroll can be reached at mcarroll@globe.com.


"No one had invited him, I never knew him, but oh he was pretty social, and I knew him."

Also: He liked cats. Cats are the terrorists of the pet world.
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