by Dreams End » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:30 pm
Jeff, I haven't read Uri yet but a previous link on this thread leads to a full online text. I'd take Puharich's claims of "weirdness" with a grain of salt. While taping the sessions with Uri, he claimed that the tapes would spontaneously disappear and other sorts of things, not usually corroborated by other witnesses. In this way, after hypnotizing Uri, not even URI would know what he had said as the tapes would be blank.<br><br>As for Laughead, the main thing is that this idea of "nine Principles" is not a one that originates with the nine, according to SC and goes further back in occult lore. What's interesting about Stargate is that very often they breathlessly notice the continuity of these messages from one group or person to the next without really noticing how likely it is that these folks hung out in the same circles and read the same books, primarily Blavatsky and Bailey. <br><br>For example, the DO admit that they found that Edgar Cayce had far more active involvement in this occult lore than is usually credited him before his own mystical pronouncements began. <br><br>I didn't find a lot (some, but not a lot) of things that could not be explained by a combination of people who read the same material combined with manipulation by Puharich, who hypnotized the channelers personally as well as being a person who invented various devices that allow radio to be received by a human through the skin or very small implant in a tooth. In other words, I think there's a great deal of stuff that is simply a matter of intel games. And I think it is not ridiculous to assume that much of the high weirdness can even be seen as part of these games. <br><br>These small groups are being manipulated and creating high weirdness would be essential to getting people to believe in the validity of these events. <br><br>It's not till the end of the current edition of Stargate (don't get me wrong, it's a great book) that they notice the underlying fascist politics behind so many who are promoting this esoterica.<br><br>Clearly the manipulations are working and spreading. When I read that Puharich was hypnotizing children as part of this I realized that, if you combine victims of that sort of manipulation with people who get sucked into various new age cults, there's actually quite a few footsoldiers out there ready to continue to spread this message. <br><br>This gets us back to what the message is really all about. So far, I can only see that they want us to think a momentous, or more likely, a catastrophic event is on the way. Given that the Nine originally predicted a mass alien landing in 1976 which either didn't make the nightly news or didn't happen, I don't know that I'm now any longer as worried that their promotion of this theme suggests any knowledge of or plans to bring about such a catastrophe exist. <br><br>I'll bet a search (may have to be of classified stuff that we don't have access) would show interesting sociological studies about the nature of populations in the face of impending disaster. I imagine that what we'd find is that this leads to a high level of malleability and a low level of rebellion against authority. <br><br>Somehow, this must be qualitatively different from similar effects in the face of an external "enemy". That is, the fake terrorist war has some of these benefits to those in power such as a tolerance for greater restrictions on civil rights and a willingness (maybe shortlived) to give authority figures more leeway and power. <br><br>But clearly that isn't enough..as we've had that since 1917. So there must be some other attributes in the populace that a sense of impending doom or impending largescale transformations over which individuals can have no hope of controlling leads to a desired response in that populace. I'd also say that the target is actually the middle classes, or even higher income levels. Right or wrong, I think that the manipulation of New Age movements is specifically meant to control the more educated and wealthy classes. Again, right or wrong, I think the perception is that the lower classes, WITHOUT the cooperation of a segment of the middle classes, cannot mount an effective threat to the status quo. So perhaps then the plan is simply to get the middle classes gazing at their navels or up to the stars and off the housing project just down the highway. In fact, so much of the New Age ideology is that people are in dire straits only because of past life actions or lessons that need to be learned, that I am certain this is part of the plan.<br><br>But it is so elaborate that I fear it is not ALL of the plan. SC suggests they are out to actually create an entire religion. The idea would be that first you blend together a hodgepodge of all the other religions (check THAT one off the new age list) and then, show how they are all really elements of the SAME religion (ditto) and then since they are all really one religion anyway, move people toward this new religion that is the TRUE underlying message of all the others. <br><br>And toss in some aliens, a side of fries, and voila, a new religion is born.<br><br>Does this HAVE to include a fascist subtext for their purposes? Probably, as their thought, I'm sure, is that SOME level of increasing control has to be exercised. Maybe they even believe their own overpopulation bullshit, but I think that overpopulation and peak oil are actually the secular versions of the New Age impending cataclysm theme. And, as we saw with Heinberg (Yes! Yes!) there is some overlap between the secular messengers of deception and the New Age gurus.<br><br>Was this all a part of a plan beginning with Blavatsky? Well, it was part of the Nazi agenda, but I don't know that complete continuity and one overarching conspiracy is a necessary assumption here. But since 1940's the intel agencies have surely been hard at work on this plan.<br><br>I'm also intrigued by the fact that there may be genuine competing factions here. I'm not sure yet. Soros vs. Dugin? Or are they really on the same page? It's interesting that one article I read said that a department of the KGB used to study groups in the U.S. such as Larouche with maybe an eye toward manipulating them, but instead ended up forming groups based on their methods (and ideologies? not sure) themselves. I believe the National Bolshevik Party was part of that.<br><br>In any event, now I must leave behind this intriguing discussion and attend to some menial taks. Chop wood. Carry water. Buy Groceries. I need to stop resenting these activities and let them keep me centered as we explore all this madness......... <p></p><i></i>
