Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

[elfismiles]

Listening to Whitley now. Soundbyte: "Listen to serious topics - like Atlantean space dolphins!" Sans irony.

Have you read this book yet? Debating whether to shell out for it.

Haven't read it yet. Had just come across it on amazon a couple days ago and then this morning came across Whit's interview one of the authors.

I will definitely be getting this book as I have much respect for many/most of the contributors.

[Sepka]

Listening to Whitley now. Soundbyte: "Listen to serious topics - like Atlantean space dolphins!" Sans irony.

To be honest, I'd be interested in hearing about Atlantean Space Dolphins.

[Wombaticus Rex]

^^Amen.

Question: What are the largest repositories of actual UFO event data, in terms of what is publicly available? This would include non-gov/mil "private" collections with access on a limited/restricted basis.

I am currently enjoying this: http://survey.canadianuforeport.com/ 90% increase year over year for Canuck sightings in 2012, FWIW.

[justdrew]

Listening to Whitley now. Soundbyte: "Listen to serious topics - like Atlantean space dolphins!" Sans irony.

To be honest, I'd be interested in hearing about Atlantean Space Dolphins.

it was mentioned as part of an ad for this podcast:
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/

I don't see which episode it was referring to, maybe it was just a joke, but it's a good show, when I can remember to "tune in"

[Sepka]

it was mentioned as part of an ad for this podcast:
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/

I don't see which episode it was referring to, maybe it was just a joke, but it's a good show, when I can remember to "tune in"

Thanks!

[ShinShinKid]

Sorry if this site has been listed before, but I just found it, and I like it!

http://theobjectreport.blogspot.com/

[elfismiles]

Listening to Whitley now. Soundbyte: "Listen to serious topics - like Atlantean space dolphins!" Sans irony.

To be honest, I'd be interested in hearing about Atlantean Space Dolphins.

Joan Ocean, Dolphins, Bigfoot (and a Hawaii / Texas Nexus?)
http://www.joanocean.com/sasquatch.html

[82_28]

Why did all these UFOs in the '50s and 60's and shit need strobing lights and shit if the technology was so fantastic and advanced as to what we deal with on a day to day basis?

"They" were clearly trying to get our attention. Who they were is our clue as to the technology involved. The technology spent was for something far more primitive than what we would "expect" now. The fables live on, just as stories in like the Bible live on. However, when we study history, we find that for the most part, without an Internet, shit spread like wildfire back then. We just so happen to live in an era where the wildfire has taken on a different composition. Thus it must be more complex in order for it to do its work.

We have accepted technology into our hearts. Whereas, 50 or 60 years ago it was an oddity. However, the experiences, I believe were indeed real. The question is, is why were they real to those subjected? Whether read about or experienced.

Skeptics always love to point out the hoax factor. We only have one brain onboard. Do the math.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Skeptics always love to point out the hoax factor. We only have one brain onboard. Do the math.

Tried to, my Texas Instruments gave the following error message: computationally intractable due to insufficient data

Can you provide additional figures in .csv?

[0_0]

Thanks for this intresting topic peoples, don't have anything to add to it but ufos will always have a place in my heart. I also like secret sun's take on it this week: http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2013/05/u ... ction.html : you don't even have to believe in ufo's to believe in ufo's!

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

I'd say Ufology is alive and well in 2013 but no so much in MSM. How many of these have been debunked?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation ... 6kweDezuiA

[FourthBase]

well, I just found out about Atta-boy here...

was going to do it up, but found it's already been covered...

Believe it or Not: The Atacama “Alien” is Human, and Ripley Knew It First
05/11/2013 5:39 PM | Greg Newkirk
Ever since the marketing buzz for the documentary film Sirius began filling up the inboxes of fringe news websites, debate has been raging about the origins of a tiny mummy referred to as the “Atacama Alien”, or “Ata” as it’s been nicknamed, but anyone who remembered the adventures of Robert Ripley already knew what the mummy was.

The promotional material for Sirius was clearly intended to make us believe that the tiny body was of some kind of extraterrestrial background, and preordering the film guaranteed that our eyes would be opened to the “new technology” that was hidden to us from the government, technology presumably given to us from some advanced space faring species who had managed to leave one of their own behind in a South American desert.

Well, much to the dismay of everyone who bought tickets to stream the film, the flick ended up being more about how ‘brilliant’ ufologist and “new energy” proponent Steven Greer was, and less about any shocking new revelations involving aliens. The interviews were simply rehashes of already available information, footage of widely proven UFO hoaxes was used, and after over an hour of teasing.. the little body of “Ata” was shown to be 91% human. But of course, Greer remained adamant that “questions still remain”.

In the end, viewers and believers in the extraterrestrial origins of UFOs felt cheated.

Still, even after Standford University researchers released their findings, plenty of Dr. Greer apologists remain steadfast in their assertion that the remaining 8% uncertainty in the DNA tests could be proof of a new species, a hybrid of alien and human biology that defies all knowledge of known history… unless, of course, you’ve ever been to a Ripley’s Believe it Or Not! Museum.

Just the other day I was flipping through “Search for the Shrunken Heads”, a particularly fun book that chronicles some of Robert Ripley’s 1930′s adventures around the world, when I noticed a photograph of Ripley holding a particularly familiar tiny humanoid. According to the intrepid adventurer’s notes, the oddity turned out to be an unfortunate soul who was chosen for a full-body “reduction” rather than just a shrinking of the head.

Interestingly enough, Robert Ripley found the shrunken body in Peru and named it “Atta-Boy”, after the nearby Atacama Desert.. the same desert where Dr. Steven Greer would eventually find the humanoid body in Sirius. Hardly a coincidence worth ignoring.

Of course, there are still some questions when it comes to making a comparison between the two. Apparently, “Ata” has a skeleton, and I can’t seem to find any reference to whether or not “Atta-Boy” does as well, considering that you can’t exactly shrink bone. That answer might not come unless someone has access to the private Ridley archives in Orlando, Florida. Secondly, there’s no guarantee that “Atta-Boy” wasn’t some kind of Fiji-Mermaid-esque mummy slapped together by the locals for fun, but even that raises it’s own set of questions about Greer’s body.

Now that we know, definitively, that Sirius‘ tiny “alien” is really just a human, be it a shrunken, deformed, or aborted one, ufologists and believers ought to be mighty pissed at Steven Greer for taking advantage of them. Sure, what he found in the desert might have been weird, but Robert Ripley found something strange just the same, and unlike Greer, didn’t need to dress his oddities up in stories of aliens and free energy, knowing that sometimes, weird for weirdness sake is all you need to sell tickets.

What do you think about the human origins of “Ata”? Did Greer simply find another one of Ripley’s oddities? Or does that other 8% account for something truly extraterrestrial? Tweet me @WhoForted, message me on Facebook, or leave a comment with your thoughts below.

CALLED IT.

As a lifelong gamer I have painted my fair share of miniatures, and this thing looks suspiciously hand painted to me. The shading looks pretty much exactly how I would expect a well done Warhammer miniature to look, particularly on the ribs. The gradient on the light parts, and the sudden change from bright to dark in the gaps to be specific.
And it's humanoid. Why are they all humanoid?

Could be...

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3. Fuck aliens from another galaxy or dimension.*

* Unless...

It’s certainly a novel and bold approach to galaxy conquest if we imagine this was a deliberate Johnny Appleseed endeavor by super-beings.

...i.e., distant future humans from a parallel timeline with inconceivable porting technology, some of whom perhaps appear to be utterly foreign creatures from far away after eons of natural/sexual/artificial selection, all of whom are interested in our earth and especially in this general period of our cultural evolution because it is for all of them the birthplace of their worlds and cultures, and perhaps some cosmic dimensional clusterfuck erased this earth or its history or us and so maybe one or some of them had to re-seed the earth billions of years ago with us, now, as the telos, essentially giving birth to themselves in some seemingly impossible loop. In which case, middle finger #3 is retracted and substituted with...

Or, could be...

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Who knows, maybe it's an alien. Maybe it's something pilfered from the Mutter Museum.
I'm not saying it's a tragically-deformed totally-human fetal specimen, but...



Then again, even if that's the case, maybe Greer is onto something here...

[Wombaticus Rex]

"UFOs and Goverment" arrived -- it is huge.

Based on the intro & preface & TOC, this is largely covering the same territory as Ricard Dolan's first volume of UFOs and the National Security State, and I find it interesting that Jerome Clark completely omits mentioning Dolan in his introduction, which is even more of a snub because he shouts of David Jacobs.

The first chapter has been pretty fantastic, excellent work on genesis and specifics of "foo fighters," some revelations about battle-ready Japanese beam weapons I was unaware of, and background on US scientists selected to manage the inevitable "foo fighter desk" that endeavored to determine how the enemy did it, that being the assumption.

[elfismiles]

Why did all these UFOs in the '50s and 60's and shit need strobing lights...?

The question has been asked before - I thought I recalled this article from the 90s:

Page 12 of the MUFON UFO JOURNAL - MARCH 1993

Why Do UFOs Have Lights?
Good question; the Director of UNICAT tries to shed some light on the subject
By Dr. Willy Smith
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131010910/MUF ... 93-3-March

[justdrew]

the light could be by-products of the electro-gravitic/magneto-gravitic propulsion system


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also, did anyone else remember ever seeing the goodyear blimp overhead at night? they used to have a simple light display on each side that could make low-res shapes. can't find pics/video of it, but it was much lower tech than today. They would drag the thing all around the country, with blurbs on the evening news and in newspapers and radio telling people "the goodyear blimp is going to over head tonight" and lots of people would go out and look for it.

Great times

no really