David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

[seemslikeadream]

you gotta stop reading that ThriveDebunked crap web site the guy doesn't even exist anymore been gone for a year
We’re On Hiatus!



why does it always go back to that James Randi lovers site? Don't you have any other sources?


and again who the fuck is muertos? and why should I care about anything he posts?

[seemslikeadream]

i have no enemies here at least i
don't consider anyone here my enemy

but nice to know how you feel

[DrEvil]

Another random nugget from Icke ("Mono-Atomic Gold A Secret Of Shapeshifting And The Reptilian Control") :

I have been chatting today to Brian Desborough, my scientist friend in
California, and we have been discussing mono-atomic gold. This comes in
the form of a white powder and has a two-dimensional atomic structure (one
or two atoms working together) while regular gold has a three-dimensional
structure (ten or more atoms working together).
Without going into all the scientific detail, when you consume this
mono-atomic gold by mouth or injection, it increases the current carrying
capacity of the nervous system by ten thousand times.
This would allow a person to process fantastic amounts of information like
a super computer and when enough has been absorbed it would allow them to
consciously move through other dimensions and shapeshift because suddenly
the brain is activated to open those vast areas that we do not use in
today's world. It aligns the brain cells so they all start talking to each
other again.
More than that, if you consume enough of this mono-atomic gold your
physical body would become luminous, I'm told, so explaining the ancient
accounts of the reptilian gods and children of the gods who "shone like
the Sun". Mono-atomic gold can be made from regular gold and it can be
processed from certain ores, many of which are found in places like
Arizona in the United States. This, I suggest, is the true meaning of the
references to gold and gold mining in the Sumerian Tablets and not
literally mining for normal gold, unless that was done to create the
mono-atomic variety.

[seemslikeadream]

Red Ice Radio - Jeremy Narby - Pt 1 - The Cosmic Serpent

Red Ice Radio - Jeremy Narby - Pt 2 - The Cosmic Serpent

[American Dream]

Another random nugget from Icke ("Mono-Atomic Gold A Secret Of Shapeshifting And The Reptilian Control")

And the Internet has plenty of sites selling Monoatomic gold- and/or singing its praises today.

Buy it now! Just $30 for a three month supply...



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[Canadian_watcher]

I took a random Icke book ("...And the truth shall set you free"), and jumped to a random page. This is what I found:

..<snip> Eventually they pooled their findings and this made available some 62,000 interviews with people across the globe. ... about 75% of those interviewed all over the world apparently told the same basic story. They said that the ETs told them how a planet called
Melchedek had once existed in our solar system, but the Melchedekans had become obsessed with the material world and they destroyed their environment. In the end they exploded so many nuclear devices during tests and conflicts that the planet broke apart and itself exploded. The asteroid belt was said to be part of the remnants of Melchedek.

The bolded bit is where I burst out laughing. If you're going to write science fiction, at least try to understand some basics about physics and stuff and don't just make shit up.

I meant to comment on this. I know it made you laugh and laughter is always good, IMO. But I think it is worth mentioning that from reading just what you posted it seems that Icke is summarizing the stories that others told these researchers. Your comment makes it sound like you took it to mean that Icke was postulating a scientific theory which I agree would make him look foolish. I don't think there's anything wrong, though, with what he's actually doing, funny as the stories may be.

[slimmouse]

I meant to comment on this. I know it made you laugh and laughter is always good, IMO. But I think it is worth mentioning that from reading just what you posted it seems that Icke is summarizing the stories that others told these researchers. Your comment makes it sound like you took it to mean that Icke was postulating a scientific theory which I agree would make him look foolish. I don't think there's anything wrong, though, with what he's actually doing, funny as the stories may be

Yes, youre right. CW, I noticed that too,

The bolded bit is where I burst out laughing. If you're going to write science fiction, at least try to understand some basics about physics and stuff and don't just make shit up.

Doc, I would just add, that when it comes to the "laws of Physics", what exactly are they? Some clarity would certainly help.

I mean can physical particles communicate at faster than light speed, or cant they?

The answer is of course that they do, so however they do achieve such feats (speed of consciouness?) thats one of the founding tents of materialistic science completely busted right there. I know we're now looking at this from the quantum position of course, where the rules of the game inexplicably change. But that doesnt detract from the fact that these quantum particles are the very same things that make up the physical matter to which these "laws" apply.

[DrEvil]

I took a random Icke book ("...And the truth shall set you free"), and jumped to a random page. This is what I found:

..<snip> Eventually they pooled their findings and this made available some 62,000 interviews with people across the globe. ... about 75% of those interviewed all over the world apparently told the same basic story. They said that the ETs told them how a planet called
Melchedek had once existed in our solar system, but the Melchedekans had become obsessed with the material world and they destroyed their environment. In the end they exploded so many nuclear devices during tests and conflicts that the planet broke apart and itself exploded. The asteroid belt was said to be part of the remnants of Melchedek.

The bolded bit is where I burst out laughing. If you're going to write science fiction, at least try to understand some basics about physics and stuff and don't just make shit up.

I meant to comment on this. I know it made you laugh and laughter is always good, IMO. But I think it is worth mentioning that from reading just what you posted it seems that Icke is summarizing the stories that others told these researchers. Your comment makes it sound like you took it to mean that Icke was postulating a scientific theory which I agree would make him look foolish. I don't think there's anything wrong, though, with what he's actually doing, funny as the stories may be.

You're absolutely right, and I should have made that distinction myself.

But, even if he didn't come up with the original story he clearly believes it. I'm not sure if that makes him look any better. Garbage in - Garbage out, to be blunt.

[American Dream]

But, even if he didn't come up with the original story he clearly believes it. I'm not sure if that makes him look any better. Garbage in - Garbage out, to be blunt.

This is David Icke's basic M.O., near as I can tell: take all sorts of unfounded, wacked-out ideas from anywhere and everywhere, mix them up with a smaller portion of original thought (also unfounded and wacked-out) and then throw in a dollop of valid information and theory just to make it look good.

The true believers lap it all up and "everyone" is happy...

[seemslikeadream]

But, even if he didn't come up with the original story he clearly believes it. I'm not sure if that makes him look any better. Garbage in - Garbage out, to be blunt.

This is David Icke's basic M.O., near as I can tell: take all sorts of unfounded, wacked-out ideas from anywhere and everywhere, mix them up with a smaller portion of original thought (also unfounded and wacked-out) and then throw in a dollop of valid information and theory just to make it look good.

The true believers lap it all up and "everyone" is happy...

This is every American president in this century basic M.O., near as I can tell: take all sorts of unfounded, wacked-out ideas from anywhere and everywhere, mix them up with a smaller portion of original thought (also unfounded and wacked-out) and then throw in a dollop of valid information and theory just to make it look good.

WAR CRIMINALS ONE AND ALL

[DrEvil]

I meant to comment on this. I know it made you laugh and laughter is always good, IMO. But I think it is worth mentioning that from reading just what you posted it seems that Icke is summarizing the stories that others told these researchers. Your comment makes it sound like you took it to mean that Icke was postulating a scientific theory which I agree would make him look foolish. I don't think there's anything wrong, though, with what he's actually doing, funny as the stories may be

Yes, youre right. CW, I noticed that too,

The bolded bit is where I burst out laughing. If you're going to write science fiction, at least try to understand some basics about physics and stuff and don't just make shit up.

Doc, I would just add, that when it comes to the "laws of Physics", what exactly are they? Some clarity would certainly help.

I mean can physical particles communicate at faster than light speed, or cant they?

The answer is of course that they do, so however they do achieve such feats (speed of consciouness?) thats one of the founding tents of materialistic science completely busted right there. I know we're now looking at this from the quantum position of course, where the rules of the game inexplicably change. But that doesnt detract from the fact that these quantum particles are the very same things that make up the physical matter to which these "laws" apply.

I'm sorry, but I'm not really sure how to respond to this, but I'll give it a shot:

The laws of physics are pretty well established. Wikipedia is a good start. It's not up to me or you to decide what those laws should be.

As for faster than light communication, I'm assuming you mean quantum entanglement.
Obviously there are mechanics we don't fully understand involved, but that doesn't mean that materialistic science is busted. That's like saying "I don't know - therefore aliens" (Which is pretty much my main gripe with Icke. It's so simplistic).

And I'm not quite sure what you mean by "speed of consciousness". We have a pretty good idea of how fast signals travel in our brains, but I get the impression that's not what you had in mind (sorry, can't resist a bad pun ).

There's tons of research being done on the subject right now. Read up on Quantum field theory, non-locality etc. Plenty of possible explanations going around. The problem is that a good explanation requires a good understanding of quantum mechanics and its underlying principles. Which we don't have - yet.

They have, for instance, determined that entangled particles affect each other at least 10000 times faster than light. It's being used in cryptography too. And these things have been researched and figured out by materialistic scientists, not David Icke.

[Wombaticus Rex]

This is every American president in this century basic M.O., near as I can tell: take all sorts of unfounded, wacked-out ideas from anywhere and everywhere, mix them up with a smaller portion of original thought (also unfounded and wacked-out) and then throw in a dollop of valid information and theory just to make it look good.

WAR CRIMINALS ONE AND ALL

If anyone could do it, Icke would be in Parliament, yes?

Perception management is a very subtle and rigorous science. You are justifiably disgusted by both the content and the results of the think tank ecosystem, but there's really no comparison between Icke's MO and the manipulation of nationwide Overton Windows.

I'm typing this becase I don't think that's a trivial point.

[seemslikeadream]

If anyone could do it, Icke would be in Parliament, yes?

well all I know is anyone can be president....and this is way scarier than Icke ever could be

talk about methods of a madman


















and btw there's a boat full of madmen and mad women

[seemslikeadream]

more proof any one can hold any office in this country


David Icke never put his head up my vagina


now remember this guy is a doctor


or as I say Reptilian Congressman: Abortion Needed Because Fetuses Masterbate

does he look reptilian to you? does to me

Texas Congressman: Masturbating Fetuses Prove Need for Abortion Ban

by Adele M. Stan, Senior Washington Correspondent, RH Reality Check
June 17, 2013 - 10:24 pm
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The hands of the male fetus may sometimes appear to be gripping its genitals. And that, says Rep. Michael Burgess (above), is why abortion should be banned even earlier in pregnancy than the GOP is seeking in a bill on its way to the floor. (Michael C. Burgess, M.D.)
VIDEO: Texas Congressman: Masturbating Fetuses Prove Need for Abortion Ban

Representative Michael Burgess (R-TX), a former OB/GYN, said on 06/17/2013 that he opposes the abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy because male fetuses masturbate at that time. Read more about his statements and the junk science behind fetal pain. Then tell your rep to say NO to unconstitutional abortion bans: http://bit.ly/NoAbortionBan.

As the House of Representatives gears up for Tuesday’s debate on HR 1797, a bill that would outlaw virtually all abortions 20 weeks post fertilization, Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX) argued in favor of banning abortions even earlier in pregnancy because, he said, male fetuses that age were already, shall we say, spanking the monkey.

“Watch a sonogram of a 15-week baby, and they have movements that are purposeful,” said Burgess, a former OB/GYN. “They stroke their face. If they’re a male baby, they may have their hand between their legs. If they feel pleasure, why is it so hard to believe that they could feel pain?”

That observation led Burgess to say he had argued for the abortion ban to start at a much earlier stage of gestation, 15 or 16 weeks. (This is less than halfway through a pregnancy.) He appeared to liken Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion, to the 1893 Plessy v. Ferguson decision that formally legalized racial segregation, and was not fully reversed until Congress passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The rationale for the Republican bill, which advanced through the House Judiciary last week on a near-total party-line vote, is one scientifically disputed study, touted by Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) in his opening remarks at today’s Rules Committee hearing, that asserts fetuses can feel pain as early as 20 weeks after sperm meets egg.

“Well, I think all the members are cognizant of the fact that this is not a Congress that cares much about science,” said Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY), the Rules Committee’s ranking member, in her questioning of Goodlatte, who refuted that claim by saying that since 1973, the year when the Supreme Court legalized abortion, much more had been learned about fetal development.

Major medical bodies in the United States and the United Kingdom have refuted the claim of fetal pain before the third trimester.

The 20-week abortion ban, if passed into law, would set up a direct challenge to Roe v. Wade, which allows abortion up to the point of fetal viability outside the womb, and mandates exceptions for abortions in the case of pregnancies that threaten the life or health of the woman.

When first drafted, the 20-week ban was meant to apply only to the District of Columbia, over which Congress has a great deal of control. But with the arrest and murder conviction of Kermit Gosnell, who ran an illegal abortion clinic in Philadelphia, right-wing forces have sought to use justifiable public revulsion at Gosnell’s actions to further restrict women’s rights—and in contradiction to the common right-wing assertion of state sovereignty.

Former Rep. Marilyn Musgrave, speaking before a right-wing gathering in Washington, DC, last week, put it this way: “This is a time for the pro-life movement like we have not had in decades. We must seize the moment.”

Goodlatte, in his opening statement, framed the ban as a measure to prevent practices such as Gosnell’s, a conflation that Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) termed “a red herring” which, he said, had nothing to do with the way abortion is practiced in legal clinics.

Rebutting Goodlatte’s pronouncements on the stage of development at which fetuses feel pain, Nadler (D-NY) noted doubts that the study’s own author, Kanwaljeet “Sunny” Anand, MD, had about its assertions, having stated in 2005 testimony that evidence of fetal pain in the second trimester of pregnancy “was uncertain.”

Nadler also took issue with the tepid exception to the ban for women who were pregnant through rape or incest—a measure added last minute after Rep. Trent Franks, the bill’s sponsor, said at last week’s Judiciary Committee hearing that the incidence of pregnancy from rape is low. With the 2014 midterm elections looming, GOP leaders scrambled to avoid the kind of fallout encountered in 2012 when Republican senatorial candidates Todd Akin (MO) and Richard Mourdock (IN) saw their campaigns tank after making comments about rape, pregnancy, and abortion.

The exception applies only to women who “first reported the rape or the incest to the authorities,” Nadler said, and, in the case of incest, the exception applied only to minors, even if an adult woman had been abused by the relative who had impregnated her since she was a child.

“It would be great if every rape or assault would be reported,” Nadler said, but the Republicans’ last-minute amendment—made after Republicans in the Judiciary Committee rejected a rape-and-incest exception offered by the Democrats—made no allowance for the toll often taken on rape victims in the judicial system, he said, including sometimes facing death threats from the friends and neighbors of the perpetrator.

“So, the authors of this bill apparently believe that women are too dishonest to be believed when they say they were raped or the victims of incest,” Nadler said. “It is Congress siding with her abuser…”.

There is also no protection for the health of the woman in the bill, nor an exception allowing for saving the life of the woman, except in terms defined so narrowly, Nadler continued, as to be virtually useless.

Democrats have been quick to note, as Slaughter did in the Rules Committee hearing, that the Republicans who voted the bill to the floor in the House Judiciary Committee were all men, due to the fact that the GOP hasn’t appointed a single woman to one of Congress’ most important committees.

So, when the 20-week abortion ban bill—deceptively titled the “Pain-Capable Infant Protection Act” —comes to the floor of the House of Representatives on Wednesday, you won’t find Trent Franks managing the floor debate. Instead, GOP leaders have tapped the ardently anti-choice Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) to lead that charge.

[slimmouse]

The laws of physics are pretty well established. Wikipedia is a good start. It's not up to me or you to decide what those laws should be.

They have, for instance, determined that entangled particles affect each other at least 10000 times faster than light. It's being used in cryptography too. And these things have been researched and figured out by materialistic scientists, not David Icke.

So are these laws valid, or not is what Im asking? It strikes me as a complete oxymoron to suggest that physical matter is incapable of faster than lightspeed travel, and then in the next breath tell us that its constituents actually are communicaton at 10,000 times faster.

What Im getting at is that It happens and yet it shouldnt by all definable "Laws", which also sounds pretty much like bad sci fi to me too. Only it isnt of course. Where does this fit within your garbage in garbage out scenario?

And for what its worth, I would suggest that this happens because the signal is moving in and out of our currently mapped physical dimensions. I would also contend, that If Ive figured this out, then the real scientists at lockheed skunkworks, and elsewhere have too. Didnt they tell us not long ago, that we now have the technology to send ET home, with all the resulting implications for humanity that a much clearer picture of these supposedly "unknowns" entails?

I know none of this is your fault, Im just asking a few questions is all.