Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

[Forgetting2]

Apologies to Barracuda for my pissy comments upthread. (When will I learn drunk posting not good) I suppose I find it difficult to accept the dissociative spirit of the age.

Yes, there is no hard evidence he was killed. Yet it seems, to me anyways, that he was either out of his mind (drunk, mental breakdown, suicidal, reckless thrill seeking, paranoid fear, ect.) or his car was fucked with. And there seems more reasons to say the later is more likely.

[Forgetting2]

... just realized how ironic my sig from cutter's way is... not an exact analogy, but in the ballpark...

[justdrew]

Still can't find a copy of the Young Turks video titled Michael Hastings Death: Possible Motives for a Hit with audio (see previous post below) ... oh well.

can you tell me what day's broadcast the audioless video was extracted from?

[8bitagent]

@barracuda, @justdrew...or anyone...


Hastings likely had picked up on an embarrassing truth related to the Petraus/Broadwell/Kelley affair. That much is clear. What might that embarrassing truth be?

For my money, if someone were to pick up where he left off and connect the dots, it might shine a light on how he died, and if it was connected to this matter.

Indeed. I'm not even saying "the government" or officially sanctioned agencies within were behind it. I certainly roll my eyes at the "Obama's people" did it meme. Unlike many of the events people on here are convinced 100% were blacks ops that I didnt quite agree with, the more I think about this and look into the case the more I lean toward sabotage. I mean if he just had a wild notion to go batshit crazy fast for a stretch and started sparking and lost control and or was suicidal...I can also digest that. Like any event, I'm interested in where the facts lie and not shaping pieces to fit a predetermined puzzle. But my, I will say what timing and what visual spectacular flair for those who secretly did want him out IF indeed this was just an accident or a suicide/man gone nuts.

Btw, is it really true that Gary Webb shot himself twice in the head? If this is a fact, how can anyone believe he committed suicide? Is it some gun that is a full auto with one squeeze?
I mean shit, look how Paul Wellstone's co-pilot knew and had software on the laptop of the so called 20th 9/11 hijacker.

Philip Marshall. Chris Kyle. The two FBI agents killed in a drill a couple months ago. Michael Hastings. The MMA fighter connected to Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Maybe these deaths all were as they had been reported, but it's all kind of odd.

[Forgetting2]

A friend of mine claimed to have actually seen a guy shoot himself in the head twice. The first shot didn't kill him and he was still actually conscious and then he shot himself again. Seems very unlikely, but I suppose possible.

[8bitagent]

[quote="[url=http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=509372#p509372]I suspect people close to him, personal friends and colleagues, won't be offering on-the-record accounts of how much or how little Hastings was known to drink or carouse. And rightly so.

Yeah, that's probably what Occam is pointing toward...a manic alcohol fueled binge at 4am. Hey, when youre the most hated man in the eyes of the power structure, letting loose at 4 in the morning in a mind altering bender is always a good stress relief. Even if it could kill some pedestrians along the way.

[8bitagent]

yeah, people! Circumstantial evidence only counts against you if you is poor. Anyone who can kill someone with a vehicle remote control sho'nuff ain't!

so this is a case of the elites laughing at you as you try and hoist them on the petard they made for themselves.

Meh, the story and viral aspect seems lost amidst the Snowden story today. I suspect Barracuda and others are right. Only us weirdos who need to see this as a conspiracy will harp on Hastings death. Treating Melrose like annual pilgrimidges to Dealey plaza.

Btw, I know some people are hard on Cenk, but I just love his expression when he mockingly says "of course it's perfectly normal for a car to crash and blow up", especially when its the main journalist exposing all of the corruption of the powers that be. He gets it, even if his colleagues might not.

God forbid, but for the sake of argument...if Snowden was randomly gunned down people would vigorously try and claim it was just a random botched robbery. Why is it if say, a mafia capo blows up in a car, not a single person
would try and claim it was just a mechanical failure? But the IMPLICATIONS of a hard hitting journalist being whacked...why THAT IS CRAZY TALK!

[Wombaticus Rex]

Yeah, that's probably what Occam is pointing toward...a manic alcohol fueled binge at 4am. Hey, when youre the most hated man in the eyes of the power structure, letting loose at 4 in the morning in a mind altering bender is always a good stress relief. Even if it could kill some pedestrians along the way.

...maybe keep that to yourself?

Maybe there's a couple billion ways to have 4 am catharsis without putting pedestrians at risk?

Maybe armchair psychoanalysis is just as disgusting as David Brooks when you do it?

Maybe every thought you have doesn't justify a post unto itself?

Just speaking as a very angry Vermonter on behalf of a native son who is in no position to defend himself. Hastings wasn't a movie character.

[8bitagent]

Lot of coincidences, almost synchromystical if there is never any actual foul play.

Princess Diana crash. Gary Caridoris plane blowing up the day before the trial begins. Paul Wellstone. MLK and RFK in 1968, arguably the two biggest threats to the power structure.
Terrence Yeakey. "worst case of suicide we ever did see". William Colby's "boating accident". Every single time, hardly anyone in the media and often times the public seems to fully appreciate the
full framework or even timing.

I mean look at the story of Jessica Lynch
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread232959/pg1

Marine Lance Cpl. Sok Khak Ung:

But just 12 days before he was to be discharged from the military, Ung was killed at a party at his father's house in Long Beach. A gunman leaned over a wooden fence and fired into the garage, killing Ung and a friend.

The gunman fled and hasn't been caught. Long Beach police are investigating.



Link to full story


Marine Josh Daniel Speer:

A Marine who was home for the first time since fighting in Iraq died Sunday morning when the vehicle he was driving veered off State 11 and crashed into some trees, authorities said.



Link to full story


Army Spc. Kyle Edward Williams:

A Tucson man was shot to death outside a West Side hotel Wednesday after breaking into a vehicle and being confronted by its owner, an Army soldier, who shot him in the back and fled, police said Friday.

The soldier, Spc. Kyle Edward Williams, 21, was found dead outside San Diego on Thursday and officials believe he committed suicide with one of the seven firearms he had been carrying with him.

He left no note to explain the suicide or why he fired six shots at Noah P. Gamez, also 21, after spotting the man stealing an ice chest from his Jeep.

Three of Lynch's close marine comrades all killed in 2003 by random gunmen. Yeah that's totally normal.

[8bitagent]

Yeah, that's probably what Occam is pointing toward...a manic alcohol fueled binge at 4am. Hey, when youre the most hated man in the eyes of the power structure, letting loose at 4 in the morning in a mind altering bender is always a good stress relief. Even if it could kill some pedestrians along the way.

...maybe keep that to yourself?

Maybe there's a couple billion ways to have 4 am catharsis without putting pedestrians at risk?

Maybe armchair psychoanalysis is just as disgusting as David Brooks when you do it?

Maybe every thought you have doesn't justify a post unto itself?

Just speaking as a very angry Vermonter on behalf of a native son who is in no position to defend himself. Hastings wasn't a movie character.

But this time period or zeitgeist that is unfolding right now is in many ways something that might trump even a major summer spy movie. Shit's getting bizarre, as 82_28 surmised recently. And at a certain point too much becomes too much. I mean if say Snowden died in a drowning accident, would the fact he may have had alcohol that night be a be all factor? Now see, I appreciate human stories in their nuances. For example, to me the most intriguing aspects of 9/11 arent all the dubious 'inside job/demolition' claims, but stories of the Indian business woman who went missing or the identity of the man in the famous falling man picture. Because as you said, these arent two dimensional cut out characters but people with complexities, real people.

I don't deify anyone. I know MLK cheated on his wife and JFK could in some ways is not as angelic as the left paints him to be. I wouldnt be surprised if Hastings maybe did some blow or booze filled bingers. I said from my first posts that him going manic or suicidal was one of the possibilities. What I was responding to was the assertion Barracuda made that his friends would be best to not mention alcohol. I say why? Im not one of those people that has to convince myself every damn event is a "black ops". I still am not fully convinced Boston or any of the mass shootings of the last few years by angry young men are black ops per se. I also agree that we don't want his body of work or things Hastings was accomplished with to be overshadowed or drowned out in a sea of noise. As someone pointed out, too many Gary Webb is now just "that guy who shot himself twice in the head".

[Wombaticus Rex]

Not a word of that has shit to you with your casual assertion that this cat, now deceased, was on "a manic alcohol fueled binge at 4am."

Surely, that should warrant as much evidence and caution as the theory he was assassinated, yes?

I'm not gonna give you a post-modern inch on this, man. He was a local.

[Forgetting2]

I thought he was being sarcastic about the 4am binge thing...

[Nordic]

Let's realize something -- had this happened in almost any other country, especially what we call "third world" world countries, we'd all be shaking our heads in unison saying "yup, that's just how it works".

But we've all been so conditioned to believe that this sort of thing just doesn't happen here. We're all fighting that prejudice.

America is a third world country run by criminal gangs.

[barracuda]

Let's realize something -- had this happened in almost any other country, especially what we call "third world" world countries, we'd all be shaking our heads in unison saying "yup, that's just how it works".

The only time you'll catch me shaking my head in unison is at a metal concert.

[Nordic]

Yeah, you'd be nodding as everyone else shook their heads.