Vatican Satanic Paedophile Ring Investigation

[Jeff]

Vatican Rentboy and Satanism Claims Revealed by Paedophile Priest Don Patrizio Poggi

Serving and former priests hired rentboys for sex in churches from pimp who sold consecrated hosts to satanists, says defrocked clergyman

Umberto Bacchi June 27, 2013

Italian investigators have opened an inquiry into claims by a convicted paedophile priest that an underage prostitution ring has been operating inside the Holy Roman Church with clergymen hiring rentboys for sex inside churches.

Don Patrizio Poggi, 46, told Italian authorities that a former Carabinieri pimped boys for nine clergymen.

Poggi, who served a five-year sentence for abusing teenage boys while he was a parish priest at the San Filippo Neri church in Rome, said he made the allegations to "protect the Holy Church and the Christian community."

The boys were chosen because they were starving and desperate, he claimed, according to Il Messaggero newspaper.

The former policeman used to recruit the boys, mostly eastern European immigrants, outside a gay bar named Twink near Rome's Termini train station. He reportedly sat in his Fiat Panda - marked "Emergency Blood" to avoid parking fines - to make his selection.

He was helped in the recruitment process by a friend who ran a modelling agency. He lured underage boys into prostitution through "false work offers for modelling and acting roles", Poggi said.

The agent also looked for rentboys at gay discos, saunas and gyms across Rome. An accountant was also said to be involved.

The boys were paid €150-€500 (£130-£425) to perform sex acts in church premises across the capital.

Poggi also accused the former Carabinieri of selling consecrated hosts for satanic rites.

Poggi reportedly presented documentary and photographic evidence to police in the company of two senior Vatican clergymen who vouched for his credibility.

Poggi identified the nine clergymen, including two senior church officials and a religion lecturer. Three people have been placed under formal investigation.

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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/48386 ... t-boy.htm#


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06 ... 17013.html

[seemslikeadream]

“God will hold everyone accountable for their deeds.”


Habemus Papam! Pope Francis l

[seemslikeadream]

The storm caused by 'Vatileaks'
19-Mar-2012
The team at Vatileaks is pleased to report that the numbers of people logging on to http://www.vatileaks.com in early March 2012 increased by several thousand and set a new daily traffic record for our site. This came about after the Italian media published damning information from documents leaked by Vatican insiders and we are delighted to say that we were one of several groups involved in leaking some documents. As the records now show, the information released caused a scandal of unprecedented proportions in the hallowed walls of the Vatican and caused Pope Benedict XVI to order a ‘high-level commission’ to shed light on the affair (Vatican newspaper). Our particular information comes from a small body of Vatican ecclesiastics called ‘The Disciples of Truth’ who, over the last three years, have been in regular contact with this author and have provided many revelations that appear on this site and in upcoming books. This group was established early in the papacy of John Paul II due to concerns about the workings of the Holy See which they say is greatly affecting the future of the Church. They could no longer hold their silence, so they systematically release secrets to particular outsiders to expose the unsavory ethics of Vatican hierarchs.

The mystery of the missing Vatican teenager

Of particular interest in this whole ‘Vatileaks’ affair was the leaked note written by the director of the Vatican Press Office, Fr. Federico Lombardi addressed to the Papal Apartments regarding Emanuela Orlandi, the 15-year-old daughter of a Vatican employee who mysteriously went missing on June 22nd, 1983 during the papacy of Pope John Paul II. Over the years, her disappearance has given rise to many strange claims, and theories abound as to who was responsible. After a while, a series of bizarre events unfolded, and the riddle of Emanuela developed into an international intrigue that turned into one of the darkest cases in Italian history. It involved a spectacular cast of characters including Pope John Paul II and many of the Vatican hierarchy including Bishop Paul Marcinkus (then president of the IOR (the Vatican Bank); Rome’s most powerful mafia clan at the time, the ‘Magliana Gang’; the CIA; the Banco Ambrosiano; secret services of different States, including the SISDE and SISMI; the United States embassy in Rome; the Soviet KGB; Bulgarian agents; the Sicilian mafia, and the Turkish gunman, Mehmet Ali Ağca, Pope John Paul II’s would-be assassin who, in 1979 accused the Pope of being ‘the Commander of the Crusades’ against Islam.

A subject that Vatican hierarchs are reluctant to discuss

The Orlandi case has been surrounded by unconfirmed rumors of a high-level pedophile ring in the Vatican and a code of silence, supported when the Holy See denied and obstructed every request to provide assistance to the Italian court’s investigation into Emanuela’s disappearance. The Vatican deliberately disseminated false information in order to conceal the truth about the disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi and documentation now in Vatileaks possession reveals a series of disturbing events under John Paul II’s papacy that will shock the Catholic world when released.

The tomb of the gangster in a Catholic basilica in Rome

The unsolved Emanuela Orlandi case is disturbing, and Bushby’s upcoming book, ‘Pope John Paul II’s Dark Secrets’ establishes whether or not her disappearance had anything in common with other Vatican enigmas associated with the pontificate of John Paul II. In this sordid affair, various groups and peoples were caught up in an interlacement of Vatican intrigue that has not yet been fully extricated, and none of the theories reveal the truth about Emanuela’s disappearance. Vatileaks intends to release new data about this enduring mystery, and it relates to documentation associated with a crypt in St. Apollinaris where Banda Magliana boss, Enrico De Pedis is buried. It also involves a Mercedes with a Vatican license plate driven by a priest, and the results of meetings amongst cardinals within the Vicariate of Rome.

Cleric Arrested in $26 Million Plot, Leaving New Blot on Vatican Bank

[8bitagent]

Wait, this has to be an ArcticBeacon/Red Ice/Rense/Godlikeproductions "news" story right? wait....Huffpo?

I never in a million years thought I'd see such a headline in a mainstream paper. It's almost teasing raw meat by TheOnion meant for the conspiracy crowd.
While it doesn't surprise me, one has to wonder how much of this particular story is true.

[Wombaticus Rex]

While it doesn't surprise me, one has to wonder how much of this particular story is true.

Which "one" are you referring to? I can only imagine you have in mind some 10 year old who lives in a cabin in the woods with no books or television.

[brainpanhandler]

Poggi also accused the former Carabinieri of selling consecrated hosts for satanic rites.

[slimmouse]

Poggi also accused the former Carabinieri of selling consecrated hosts for satanic rites.

I kinda like hearing confirmation of my own, and growing millions of others understanding of this stuff , if only in perhaps my usually optimistic way.

Time will tell I suppose.

[seemslikeadream]

Vatican Satanic Paedophile Ring Investigation......I don't see anyone here complaining about the title of Jeff's thread...I don't see any one complaining about the use of a word that dehumanizes a human being....

Where are all the watchers? Or am I the only target for using words some people don't like around here


Satan = not human

Reptile = not human

some one PLEASE tell me the difference?

[Wombaticus Rex]

Satanists are human beings, though. I have friends who are self-identified Satanists, we get along fine.

There really are people who self-identify as a "Satanist" or "Luciferian."

If you find any self professed shape-shifting lizards, you know...let a mammal know.

The OP here is one of the more remarkable headlines to emerge from a hugely bizarre flood of a year, and I'd hugely appreciate it if the OP remained the subject of the thread.

Edit: Since that's obviously aimed at you, SLAD, I need to also thank you for the additional information and links you've already contributed here, as well as the quality excerpts you brought to light in the "Arming Mother Nature" thread. I never, ever intend to exercise power over you. I'm just responding human to human when I feel compelled to. Your contributions to RI are apparent to everyone here, including me!

[seemslikeadream]

Satanists are human beings, though. I have friends who are self-identified Satanists, we get along fine.

There really are people who self-identify as a "Satanist" or "Luciferian."

If you find any self professed shape-shifting lizards, you know...let a mammal know.

The OP here is one of the more remarkable headlines to emerge from a hugely bizarre flood of a year, and I'd hugely appreciate it if the OP remained the subject of the thread.

Satan is not a human being...never was and neither is a lizard

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the concept of Satan. For the concept of "devil", see Devil. For other uses, see Satan (disambiguation).



Gustave Doré, Depiction of Satan, the antagonist of John Milton's Paradise Lost c.1866.
Satan (Hebrew: הַשָּׂטָן ha-Satan, "the opposer,"[1]) is a character appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions,[2][3] who personifies evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver that leads humanity astray. The term is often applied to an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who now rules over the fallen world.
Satan is primarily understood as an "accuser" or "adversary" in the Hebrew Bible, and is not necessarily the personification of evil that he would become in later Abrahamic religions. In the New Testament, Satan is a name that refers to a decidedly malevolent entity (devil) who possesses demonic god-like qualities. In Theistic Satanism, Satan is considered a positive force and deity who is either worshipped or revered. In LaVeyan Satanism, Satan is regarded as holding virtuous characteristics.[4][5]

[cptmarginal]

Vatican Satanic Paedophile Ring Investigation......I don't see anyone here complaining about the title of Jeff's thread...I don't see any one complaining about the use of a word that dehumanizes a human being....

Where are all the watchers? Or am I the only target for using words some people don't like around here


Satan = not human

Reptile = not human

some one PLEASE tell me the difference?

Here's the difference:

"Serving and former priests hired rentboys for sex in churches from pimp who sold consecrated hosts to satanists, says defrocked clergyman"

That's what the news article he posted was about. It's an important topic, one that both you and I have posted numerous times about on previous threads (re: the Orlandi case in particular.) This forum is one of very few places I know of where an in-depth discussion of such things can take place within an informed historical context.

It's a sensitive topic, too. Let's not trivialize it with an argument about thread-title semantics. There are people posting & reading here who have a personal stake in it, myself included.

I'm wondering if the timing of this has something to do with: Vatican Bank Probe Leads to Three Arrests

...and by automatic extension from any mention of the IOR, something to do with the world of intelligence operations and secret societies.

[pianoblues]

Um, I live a stone's throw from St.Peter's and yes there is a current investigation going on. It certainly isn't the first time that Vatican priests have been accused of either using or creating paedophile rings...last year, in the North an RC priest was finally convicted and is now incarcerated for establishing a pedo ring with a friend that also dealt drugs...THAT priest, I'll have to look his name up again, 'Sabbia' or something I think, purportedly also has a huge tattoo on his back of Satan. One of his victim's reported that the priest would tell him, " This is what the love of God feels like" as he raped him. Despite a notable difference between Satanists and Satan, the adj. Satanic can be used to refer to actions by either. And shoot, personally I find the substance of current allegations way but WAY more offensive than the semantics.

[compared2what?]

Vatican Satanic Paedophile Ring Investigation......I don't see anyone here complaining about the title of Jeff's thread...I don't see any one complaining about the use of a word that dehumanizes a human being....

Where are all the watchers? Or am I the only target for using words some people don't like around here


Satan = not human

Reptile = not human

some one PLEASE tell me the difference?

The accusation is that nine human beings, all of whom are current or former members of the Catholic clergy, were committing pedophiliac acts in churches for satanic purposes in the Vatican.

So I'm not sure where the dehumanization comes in (apart from "of the children in question if the charges are true," obviously).

It's true that Satan isn't human. But nobody's being accused of being Satan.

It's also true that they're said to be satanists and current/former members of the Catholic clergy. But, strictly speaking, that's not what they're being accused of either. The satanism, their current/former vocations, and the alleged locales of their alleged bad acts go to motive. But the crimes they're being charged with are the acts of pedophilia.

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Long story short: If Icke were accusing people who worshiped reptiles of committing crimes in order to meet the religious obligations attached to that particular sect of reptile worship, it would be the same.

But he's not. So it's different.

Despite which, I have a complaint about the thread title. I can't read it without trying to make it rhyme. (Vatanic. Satican.) Doesn't work.

[seemslikeadream]

brekin's the one that doesn't like people being called reptiles....he/she the one that said that would be dehumanizing people.....and AGAIN I NEVER mentioned that guy's name


the devil (satan) possesses people or so I'm told...and people really believe that

[compared2what?]

brekin's the one that doesn't like people being called reptiles....he/she the one that said that would be dehumanizing people.....and AGAIN I NEVER mentioned that guy's name

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. I was just trying clearly to state what the difference was between accusing people of BEING non-humans and accusing people of WORSHIPING non-humans.

Because most people who worship at all do worship a non-human. After all. Some are definitely more stigmatized for doing so than others. But it's not, ipso facto, dehumanizing to say that's what they do. If it were, it would be dehumanizing to say someone was a Methodist.***

the devil (satan) possesses people or so I'm told...and people really believe that

Lots of them, yes. True. All parties except for the devil/(satan) are still people/human beings per that belief, though.

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***ON EDIT: Methodists follow a consubstantial Christological doctrine and worship a triune godhead. Just in case that was confusing.